For those of you who don't know about these new head units. It is the first headunit that is running an Android based operating system that is compatible with MirrorLink.
I can't post a link but if you google "mobile electronics magizine xav-601bt" you can find a lot of info on it.
I am curious what people are going to do with these once it is rooted, just think of the possibilities!
What are the chances we can get MirrorLink to work on all android based devices? So far it looks to only be planned for new phones but I am sure that we could change that.
Nobody else thinks this is amazing? You now can install an android based computer/audio/video in your car that you can mirror your phone's interface on!! Literally your car can now do everything your phone does, something people have wanted to do years.
I'm doing some research on the XAV-601BT right now. Saw you posted some info on another car audio site and I would like to know what you think of the unit. Such as: what apps would currently integrate an xperia pro freshly updated to android 4.** and are there any known issues with particular devices or configurations? Any mod sites messing around with getting rid of the bugs yet, safety nannies or performance wise? I can't find much besides chatter yet.
You mentioned that you had access to a unit and if it is installed could you give some details of what it is pushing and how it is performing?
Thanks allot. I am holding out for another unit that has been delayed again but this might make me pull the trigger. And yes, the prospect of running all my phone apps via my head unit makes me happy, let alone being able to root and customize.
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MOJoWales said:
I'm doing some research on the XAV-601BT right now. Saw you posted some info on another car audio site and I would like to know what you think of the unit. Such as: what apps would currently integrate an xperia pro freshly updated to android 4.** and are there any known issues with particular devices or configurations? Any mod sites messing around with getting rid of the bugs yet, safety nannies or performance wise? I can't find much besides chatter yet.
You mentioned that you had access to a unit and if it is installed could you give some details of what it is pushing and how it is performing?
Thanks allot. I am holding out for another unit that has been delayed again but this might make me pull the trigger. And yes, the prospect of running all my phone apps via my head unit makes me happy, let alone being able to root and customize.
MOJoWales
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I think you don't have the right phone for it.. only Nokia and the new Samsung Galaxy S3 support Mirror Link.
I've read somewhere that Mirror Link is hardware based, but maybe it's the same technology as MHL.
Thanks for the reply. I read that the 2012 Xperias would be MirrorLink capable too. I came across conflicting information on it being implementable for smartphones that had output capabilities of uUSB and HDMI like my Xperia pro. If a phone can support RealVNP I think it should work but I'm just learning about this technology. I've got some research to do on this before I pull the trigger because I want/need qwerty with my hand size and I don't see anything similar to the pro in the pipeline that would come factory capable with MirrorLink.
Anybody know for sure what it would take to run MirrorLink on a phone like the 2011 Xperia pro?
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I think you don't have the right phone for it.. only Nokia and the new Samsung Galaxy S3 support Mirror Link.
I've read somewhere that Mirror Link is hardware based, but maybe it's the same technology as MHL.
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He is right about the S3 and nokia phones being the first supported. Windows phones and other phones are expected in the future but there is little information available. I originally heard that mirrorlink was a hardware solution but now I believe it is software. There is a good chance that it could be ported but it is going to be hard to tell until the S3 launches and some people on here start playing with it. I also hope they make an area for the XAV-601BT and XAV-701HD on this site so people can start focusing on rooting the unit as it is Android bassed.
I have used the unit and even without the mirrorlink it is an amazing unit. It literally does everything I could want in a double din head unit.
I currently have the xav-601bt i picked up from my audio shop yesterday. I also have a htc sense and the unit will only display unsuported device. Speaking with the sony west coast rep today, I was informed that there will be rollouts for the mirror link. It seems that it will be an app you can download from the play store.
The rollouts are expected to be every 60 days, but as for what phones are capable of running the mirror link protocol remains a mystery.
I offered my phone to be tested for there software but he will have to check with his higher ups about that. I am hoping that it will soon be available for download and one of the developers that crack it to work with other phones, like the netflix and hulu apps.
I am still waiting on information from the east coast rep on this as well. If I get anymore information I'll be sure to post it here.
Could you post some experiences with this unit? Do you think it's fast enough? How about the touchscreen; how well does it react to your finger and what about the sun.
There is a russian video on youtube giving a demo of this device.. not much to understand (at least for me) but at least you can see the features a little bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGMxaMnfTFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB9V641jTZQ
As you can see in the video, it's not as smooth as I hoped for.. sometimes you have to touch something two or three times before it works.
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Could you post some experiences with this unit? Do you think it's fast enough? How about the touchscreen; how well does it react to your finger and what about the sun.
There is a russian video on youtube giving a demo of this device.. not much to understand (at least for me) but at least you can see the features a little bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGMxaMnfTFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB9V641jTZQ
As you can see in the video, it's not as smooth as I hoped for.. sometimes you have to touch something two or three times before it works.
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I have this unit as well and have had it since late May. It is actually pretty responsive(for a touchscreen head unit) and boots up fast. I am coming from a x930BT which was horrible in both of these areas. The having to press more than once is more related to how accurate you need to be to hit what the unit considers the button. It is small area that accepts the input for that button, hopefully they address this in a FW update.
As for the Sun question - pretty bad, but my car has a bad location for the radio that doesn't help the problem any. The sun beats directly on the screen and it is completely washed out.
Thanks tvrvic for the reply
Hmm the sun problem is not a good thing, a lot of units have problems with that and I hoped that a big company as Sony wouldn't have this problem.
I've had this unit for a few days so far and love it. I'm order the steering wheel control adapter today. It has a matte finish on the screen and that helps the glare, I can see the screen just fine.
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I've had this unit for a few days so far and love it. I'm order the steering wheel control adapter today. It has a matte finish on the screen and that helps the glare, I can see the screen just fine.
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Thanks, I also just saw this link: http://forums.mcx7.com/showthread.php/132693-Double-Din-Sony-XAV-601BT-Install-pics! with a photo of the unit in the sun and it looks good
Now we just need to root it
Hi Guys just asking for a bit of an update - im in the uk so the bigger 701hd isnt out yet, i was looking at the Alpine ICS x-8 which also supports mirror link - there is a demo out on youtube which shows it working with the Galaxy S2! Do you guys think this would work with the S3?
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Now we just need to root it
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This head unit does not actually run Android, so there's nothing to root. It uses MirrorLink to mirror your phone's display on the head unit. You'll have to wait a few months for Clarion's double din Android head unit to release to have Android running natively on your head unit. There are some cheap no-name head units out there right now running Android, but they're poor quality and I don't think any of them are even running Gingerbread.
thanks for that info.
so the sony won't be hackable. given that, is mirrorlink's app approval mechanism hackable on the android end? does anyone know mirrorlink tech beyond:
Universal Plug and Play (UPnP™) is used for controlled access to applications. Virtual Network Computing (VNC™) is used to replicate the phone's display on the navigation screen and communicate user inputs back to the phone. Besides Bluetooth™, audio can also be streamed using the Real-Time Protocol (RTP).
MirrorLink™ also provides a mechanism that ensures only approved applications are accessible while driving.
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(from terminalmode<dot>org<slash>technology<dot>html)
thanks,
shiraz
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This head unit does not actually run Android, so there's nothing to root. It uses MirrorLink to mirror your phone's display on the head unit. You'll have to wait a few months for Clarion's double din Android head unit to release to have Android running natively on your head unit. There are some cheap no-name head units out there right now running Android, but they're poor quality and I don't think any of them are even running Gingerbread.
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I just installed this unit in my car - the Open source license page on the unit shows a lot of .apk files and also reference AOSP, and Linux 2.6.x licenses - so it is Linux
The mirror link support looks like it comes from tmlibs.so - which they published on their support site (Trying to find the links - I downloaded what they published for opensource -
the libraries they put on their site were: (Repeating tar.bz2 was their names)
EDIT: the url for the sony site is : http://www.sony.net/Products/Linux/Audio/XAV-701BT.html
GPL_SGX_KM_20111130.tar.bz2.tar.bz2.tar.bz2
alsa-lib.tar.gz
dnsmasq.tar.gz
iproute2.tar.gz
iptables.tar.gz
webkit.tar.gz
kernel.tar.gz
and the most interesting
ML_Necessitas_Build.tar.bz2.tar.bz2.tar.bz2
TmLibs.tar.bz2.tar.bz2.tar.bz2
The TmLibs looks like it has a mirrorlink server and client embeded, using the QT libraries in the ML_Necessitas, and there is an ortpLib directory in there as well.
Would it be possible they are running some android apks within the system as the USB music app seems very androidish (menus & icons) while the ipod app not so much?
http://www3.jvckenwood.com/english/car/mirrorlink/compatibility/kw-nsx1.html
Support for the Samsung GALAXY S III is planned. Car Mode compatibility will differ by country or region.
Support for Europe was going to be available on July 20 2012.
But, Support for Europe will be delayed to August 31 2012, because of software development has been delayed.
And timing for US/Canada is TBA. Support for Asia/Middle East is TBA.
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So MirrorLink with the JVC will work at the end of August, so I guess that will also mean Sony will support it by that date.
Hi People,
I have two Android HUs. I have a brand new still in the box Eonon GA6163F and currently have installed a Joying JY-UL128N2. I first purchased the Eonon but have seen so many issues with it's performance so decided to get the Joying but not a fan of how it looks in my car and prefer the Eonon as it was made more the car.
I tired selling the Eonon on eBay but people offered silly low offers.
Is there anyway to upgrade the Eonon to improve performance? I read the thread about upgrading RAM but I don't have the skills for this or know anyone that does. Is there a SOM that I can purchase or silly questions use parts from one with the other?
Thanks for any help
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Hi People,
I have two Android HUs. I have a brand new still in the box Eonon GA6163F and currently have installed a Joying JY-UL128N2. I first purchased the Eonon but have seen so many issues with it's performance so decided to get the Joying but not a fan of how it looks in my car and prefer the Eonon as it was made more the car.
I tired selling the Eonon on eBay but people offered silly low offers.
Is there anyway to upgrade the Eonon to improve performance? I read the thread about upgrading RAM but I don't have the skills for this or know anyone that does. Is there a SOM that I can purchase or silly questions use parts from one with the other?
Thanks for any help
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Assuming the EONON is a MTCB/C unit
1. Get the latest 5.1.1 ROM from here
2. Root with Kingo root
3. Enter settings, Apps, ALL tab and disable all Google apps
4. DON'T update Google Maps, newer versions require Google services
5. Get the apks for your preferred apps from an apk repository like apkmirror.com
With these simple steps you will have a 5.1.1 unit as fast as a 4.4 one.
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Assuming the EONON is a MTCB/C unit
1. Get the latest 5.1.1 ROM
2. Root with Kingo root
3. Enter settings, Apps, ALL tab and disable all Google apps
4. DON'T update Google Maps, newer versions require Google services
5. Get the apks for your preferred apps from an apk repository like apkmirror.com
With these simple steps you will have a 5.1.1 unit as fast as a 4.4 one.
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Thanks for the info. So you think the the 1GB Eonon will be around the same speed as the 2GB Joying?
Does anyone know if the Eonon is a MTCB/C unit? I haven't installed or unpacked it so I cannot check.
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Hi People,
I have two Android HUs. I have a brand new still in the box Eonon GA6163F and currently have installed a Joying JY-UL128N2. I first purchased the Eonon but have seen so many issues with it's performance so decided to get the Joying but not a fan of how it looks in my car and prefer the Eonon as it was made more the car.
I tired selling the Eonon on eBay but people offered silly low offers.
Is there anyway to upgrade the Eonon to improve performance? I read the thread about upgrading RAM but I don't have the skills for this or know anyone that does. Is there a SOM that I can purchase or silly questions use parts from one with the other?
Thanks for any help
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I've sold a couple of HUs on Craigs List and got my asking price - but these were removed from service, not unopened.
Hi guys. I want to upgrade my Ford Galaxy (2011) to an android head unit. I've noticed that a lot of new octa core, 4gb RAM units running Android 8 are now out. Please could I have some personal opinions on the best of the bunch. I've looked at Pumpkin, Xtrons, Eonon etc.
Secondly, does anyone know if Ford Voice Control would still work? I'm assuming not for music etc but I'm hoping that it would at least for dialing phone numbers handsfree.
Thanks in advance
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Hi guys. I want to upgrade my Ford Galaxy (2011) to an android head unit. I've noticed that a lot of new octa core, 4gb RAM units running Android 8 are now out. Please could I have some personal opinions on the best of the bunch. I've looked at Pumpkin, Xtrons, Eonon etc.
Secondly, does anyone know if Ford Voice Control would still work? I'm assuming not for music etc but I'm hoping that it would at least for dialing phone numbers handsfree.
Thanks in advance
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First off, anything you see that says "8.0".... take that with a grain of salt. The chinese way is to mislabel older things to pretend to be something newer. In fact, I would be seriously shocked if you see something with GENUINE 8.0 from china in less than a couple of years. They are *always* 2 years behind.
Secondly, and the dead giveaway on this, is that Android 8.0+ includes some very car-centric features. The UI on it looks very similar to Android Auto. If you don't see that, then its NOT Android 8.0.
THIRD, there really wasn't much changed in 8.1 over 8.0. Nothing that would make building it any more complicated than running a repo sync followed immediately by a make. There is nobody in the entire world who is going to be using 8.0.
Want to try something really fun?
https://github.com/HiKey960-Car
REAL Android 8.1-ish (actually from the master branch, which is somewhere between 8.1 and "P") in your car.
look around on youtube to see what others have done. i have installed a new 8.0 4gb/32gb in my ford kuga (escape) and also installed mtcd dialler for voice dialing and it works fine. the steering wheel controls works too. all good
Can u tell me brand and model?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I had a quick question. I want to know if you all know which older head-units can be upgraded with an software update to Android Auto and Apple Carplay?
I seen a few online by Pioneer that offers the upgrade. I wanted to see if there are any more......
The ones I saw so far were by Pioneer AVIC-4100, 7100, and 8100 NEX
I'm not sure if anyone already posted about this......
Hello,
i recently purchased a new (but old) car that is equipped with an android auto head unit model 8227. i found out after the purchase that it is basically a chinese knock off ( as i understand it)
i'd like to link my phone to it so i can use the maps app as well as possibly stream music from the phone to the unit.
i tried using the android auto app from the play store but it is not detecting it, and the Tima app that seems to be recommended is poorly rated (im even suspecting malware).
Also android 8 is quite old, but the unit seems stable even though it lacks a dedicated equalizer. (i found one in the music app, but the app itself is not very functional)
I'm not sure upgrading it is the best path here.
do others have experience with this unit? and how have you linked your phone to it ?
cheers.
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Op, these are not Android Auto. Given the low spec, suggest better off buying a new unit. If wanting genuine Android Auto, refer to googles list of officially sanctioned headunits (none of which are Chinese knockoffs)
that's what i was my feel as well. thanks for the feedback