Hey there
I'm looking for a good Android head unit with really good specs (for e.g. QLED at least HD, best would he FullHD and a good chipset with a good amp, things like toslink and a fan to cool the unit would he nice) for a BMW pre facelift E46 - also for a MB CL203 pre facelift....
I'm just really confused by how many chipsets there are and which hardware specs are to look out for ..
I also don't know what Bluetooth codecs are used, you know, I also want to have good music without latency and with good quality - obviously we all want this
Maybe someone could help me out and tell me some things about all those head unit manufacturers like Dasaita, Junsun, Skyshadow and so on - I just don't know where start to filter the bad from the good units, I know one thing or two about android, but never bought an Android head unit before - now is the day
For example:. I found something like this here - BT6 or TT6 here on AliExpress (seems nice to me)
Is this overkill? : The 2k model on AliExpress which I found
Is it any good? For what should I look out for? Maybe there are some threads here on xda which are good to read to get some Infos, maybe someone could provide me those?
Also, I don't know anything about the specs of MTCD, MTCB and FYT, I don't have any Infos about them - but there are sperate xda developer forums for them...
Thank you very much in advance
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
marchnz said:
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
marchnz said:
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Thank you very much, you just confirmed my thoughts, that this chipset would be the best of all those out there for Head Units - but I have also seen a Qualcomm Version, but have never compared them.
You see, I still don't know what FYT means and I just vaguely know, that MCU Version is the base system on which a head unit is based on?
I am not asking for full service, I'm just looking for example for tutorials - I would to write some tutorials if I gain more and more knowledge, would help other newbies like me. Also it could be just about that someone else is buying or bought a head unit for those cars I've mentioned - sometimes it just happens by chance...
But thank you anyway, you gave me the right Infos and tips for what I have to look for.
Anton TNT said:
Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
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So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
I think that I have to write with some of those sellers to have a selection from which I could chose.
Are there some amplifiers, which should be avoided or which are good and recommended? Are there any details for which I should look out, which could be a good trap for newbies like me?
Where I can get MCU Version information? (I know, you can look it up in the 'about' screen on Android, but I'm still not quite sure what it represents) so basically if someone has a for e.g. Dasaita and someone else have a Skyshadow, they could use the same software, if MCU Version would he the same?
Thank you very much
Ubuntu_Man said:
So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
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Not by liking must choose what your car tells you, choose what is compatible with car and most up to date device
Start by searching for units compatible with your car.Then narrow the selection by CPU (8 core), RAM (6 or 8 GB) and screen.
When you are down to a handful, look at seller reputation and number of units sold for your config.
Also, check shipping terms and always ask if they ship from regional warehouse.
so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
m00n61 said:
FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
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Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
Do you know, if there is a double DIN unit which has one knob for the volume? The only one I've found has only "High definition" resolution, there is no option for a 2k display - it's this one: Head unit with fake android 11 because of false API but looks nice and has some features - especially the BT6 and TT6 models...
I would love to have a BT6 with a 2k display, but I think that this only a dream. There just simply none available with a volume knob and a 2k display, otherwise it would be just perfect.
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
Ubuntu_Man said:
Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
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If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
Anton TNT said:
If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
Ubuntu_Man said:
Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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I bought this device ... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....order_list.order_list_main.59.21ef1802Q3dkF7
SPECS: read and enjoy...
UNIT AINAVI "H5"
Preset Station: FM
Built-in DVD Player: NO
Built-in CD player: NO
Chipset: Qualcomm 8953
Processor Speed: 1.8GHz
Processor Type: QUALCOMM SNAPDRAGON ARM CORTEX 8 core UNISOC
Is touch screen: YES
Built-in Screen: YES
TF/Micro SD Slot: 2
Din: Double Din
RAM: 2G-6G
Special Feature: Wifi Function,Support Steering Wheel Control online,Support 3G Network,Support 4G Network,Support Can-Bus, Updating online
Operating System: Android 10.0 OS
Out Power: 4*50w
Voltage: 12V
Material Type: Glass
Item Weight: 1.8kg
Item Size: 9 Inch
Max External Memory: 128G
ROM: 128G
Special Features: Built-in GPS,MP3 Players,Voice Control,DSP,Carplay,Android Auto,Reversing Input,Split Screen
Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG
OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese (Traditional),Albanian,Arabic,Azeri,Irish,Estonian,Belarusian,Bulgarian,Icelandic,Polish,PERSIAN,Boolean text (Dutch South Africa),Danish,German,Russian,French,Filipino,Finnish,Georgian,Haitian Creole,Korean,Dutch,Galicia,Catalan,Czech,Croatian,Latin,Latvian,Lithuanian,Romanian,Maltese,Malay,Macedonian,Norwegian,Portuguese,Japanese,Swedish,Serbian,Slovak,Slovenian,Swahili,Thai,Turkish,Welsh,Ukrainian,Hebrew,Greek,Spain's Basque,Spanish,Hungarian,Armenian,Italian,Yiddish,Hindi,Urdu India,Indonesia,English,Vietnamese
Resolution: 1280*720
Display Size: 9"
Brand Name: Ainavi
Origin: Mainland China
For Vehicle Brands/Model: PEUGEOT
Peugeot Model: 308
308-Year: 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014
Certification: CE
Carplay: Built-in wired&wireless Carplay
Android Auto: Support Android Auto
Radio: Support FM/AM/RDS
Network: Support 3G/4G Network
Radio IC: SI47925
Amplifier IC: ST7850
GPS: Built-in GPS
Special Feature 1: Bluetooth
Special Feature 2: Built-In Speaker/Microphone
Special Feature 3: Support Steering Wheel Control
BIG BIG + is UNIT SUPPORT by seller and technicians
del_piero3 said:
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
Anton TNT said:
If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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Hi there,
thanks for all the suggestion, indeed a Qualcomm processor if available is a huge plus compare to anything else. I will check out what's available and will report what i found. Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
Edit : Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
Edit2 :
I found this one, looks really great with volume knobs as you requested @Ubuntu_Man , however the plastic looks a bit cheap, but maybe it is an impression :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001774883334.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.23.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-11&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000017521648402%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21409.19%21245.51%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000017521648402%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=avv30AqHJaPb
del_piero3 said:
Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
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Yes , store is called AINAVI and sellers are always helpfull. + for them
del_piero3 said:
Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
Anton TNT said:
Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
Anton TNT said:
First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
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Compatibility about what? The function in the head-unit or the physical fit ? The physical fit, on E46 there was no difference from the first to the second phase, all unit that are made for E46 should go in the head-unit location without any issue. I remember the first generation, the units were longer and sometimes it was tricky to get all the rear cables sorted correctly so the unit would enter the dashboard correctly, but now i see that the units are shorter so it shouldn't be an issue. About the software, i hope with the canbus that all the functions are decoded correctly form the bus, unless there is some bugs. And last but not least, about the OEM installation in place, this is up to us to check, mine have the OEM navigation with the BM54 in the trunk, so i know that i have to take the long cable to connect the unit in the one in the trunk, and that is some work to be done Unless i am missing something ?
the only one that worries me a bit is the screen resolution. I am wondering if such big screen with 1280x720 is enough ?
Hi,
im very new to android radios and i was already reading a lot.. not just to make a decision which one i should by also to learn about problems, tricks and so on. And im sure, i will have some questions in the future I never had an android radio before and I had a conflict with my wife.. I like a big screen, 10 inch for example which always is a out of dash display but she dont like them. The biggest in dash i could have is a 9 inch unit. I did not found a lot vendors, only dasaita and joying. The radio is for our mercedes 906 sprinter van.
Dasaita: HA2152-Vivid10-CP-HD
https://www.dasaita.com/products/da...o-px6-4g-64g-android10-1280-720-dsp-ahd-radio
Joying: JY-UQ139N4G-H
https://www.joyingauto.eu/android-10-double-din-car-stereo-replacement-4g-lte-radio.html
What i need:
- good sound, it is basically a radio (min. 4x50 W output)
- DSP
- 2 Din (i was reading about over heating problems at 1 din units)
- wireless car play
- good FM receiver chip
As far as I know, the Joying is using the UIS7862, Dasaita PX6. After all i was reading here in the forum, I would prefer the Dasaita because of the PX6. The only problem: there are almost no information about the radio on their website. Which one would you buy and why? Is there anybody with experience of the Dasaita headunit? Are there better alternatives?
Best regards
hyxamp said:
Hi,
im very new to android radios and i was already reading a lot.. not just to make a decision which one i should by also to learn about problems, tricks and so on. And im sure, i will have some questions in the future I never had an android radio before and I had a conflict with my wife.. I like a big screen, 10 inch for example which always is a out of dash display but she dont like them. The biggest in dash i could have is a 9 inch unit. I did not found a lot vendors, only dasaita and joying. The radio is for our mercedes 906 sprinter van.
Dasaita: HA2152-Vivid10-CP-HD
https://www.dasaita.com/products/da...o-px6-4g-64g-android10-1280-720-dsp-ahd-radio
Joying: JY-UQ139N4G-H
https://www.joyingauto.eu/android-10-double-din-car-stereo-replacement-4g-lte-radio.html
What i need:
- good sound, it is basically a radio (min. 4x50 W output)
- DSP
- 2 Din (i was reading about over heating problems at 1 din units)
- wireless car play
- good FM receiver chip
As far as I know, the Joying is using the UIS7862, Dasaita PX6. After all i was reading here in the forum, I would prefer the Dasaita because of the PX6. The only problem: there are almost no information about the radio on their website. Which one would you buy and why? Is there anybody with experience of the Dasaita headunit? Are there better alternatives?
Best regards
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Hi, prior to buying it I would ask sellers of this device to give you specs of device. And ask them in a way in which them must be clear that you are serious buyer not some naive buyer.
You will be much pleased with your answers.
Hi anton,
yes I was already asking yesterday for some more information but I expect that this unit is not completely different to the PX6 devices, which are more described in detail. Im still waiting for an answer.
I am also looking for a hu for a sprinter van and am looking at these. These seem very expensive compared to some of the other models out there. Is it only because that are made for Mercedes?
hyxamp said:
Hi anton,
yes I was already asking yesterday for some more information but I expect that this unit is not completely different to the PX6 devices, which are more described in detail. Im still waiting for an answer.
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If no reply use net / forum guides and reviews for varius devices priror to buying
SeattleMatt said:
I am also looking for a hu for a sprinter van and am looking at these. These seem very expensive compared to some of the other models out there. Is it only because that are made for Mercedes?
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Difference is in chipset and prices ...
Mediatek devices are cheaper but full of bugs and much slower units
Qualcomm / Snapdragon units are now top stuff, much faster even with 2x32 GB of memory, everything is connected online , updating , helpdesk etc.
Mediatek devices - Chinese modified - has been reported that they are using some illegal softwares (pirated)
There is a third option , it is "do it yourself" type of device , you order specific device for model of a car, and unit is perfectly adjusted to any of the car model you want (with Qualcomm or older Mediatek chipsets), but it is much expensive rather than standard aftermarket units.
There is a link if you want to configure unit by your needs :
Check this site ... https://www.made-in-china.com
You contact them and they configure your device and order, price is told on end and + shipping.
Ie. like this order - for older cars below 2011 and with dahboard lcd control unit... https://witson.en.made-in-china.com...-Peugeot-407-Silver-Frame-1080P-HD-Video.html
or for Benz
https://witson.en.made-in-china.com...o-Output-to-Sub-Monitor-Like-Mirror-Link.html
Have you looked at the Teyes? https://teyes.com.au/collections/cc...d-10-no-2din-2-din-dvd?variant=38046855495876
Hi,
i was ordering the Dasaita. Had some contact but still not very much information about the device. The unit comes with PX6 and i guess there are not very much differences compared to the well described devices on their page. Lets see when it arrives (guess 4 weeks). They will also send me a unit with vivid11 which is not yet offered in the store. They confirmed that this device will fit into my 2015 sprinter even if the description is only labeled up to 2012. Im not surprised. Im wondering if the can will work but that is not much important to me.
hyxamp said:
Hi,
i was ordering the Dasaita. Had some contact but still not very much information about the device. The unit comes with PX6 and i guess there are not very much differences compared to the well described devices on their page. Lets see when it arrives (guess 4 weeks). They will also send me a unit with vivid11 which is not yet offered in the store. They confirmed that this device will fit into my 2015 sprinter even if the description is only labeled up to 2012. Im not surprised. Im wondering if the can will work but that is not much important to me.
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When arrives ,put toghether and test, test , test everything... And results errors etc. report to your seller...
If has online updates, seller will give bug reports to technicians and they will update system or release updates with fixes for your device.