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hi all
is it true the shift's GPS is blocked ?
can someone confirm ?
if so, what can be done to use TOMTOM on it ?
please advise
Thanks
Not blocked, just not there.
that blows ....
i was about to order one...
oh well, i guess ill just stick to my advantage x7500...
thanks.
By the way I'm using TomTom on my universal but I'm not comfortable to use TOMTOM. I have to enter specific information to use search function, even doesn't have that much result even I paid.
and Tomtom can't navigate to extra number of address like 85-89156 ****HWY.
only can navigate 85 ****hwy. and I Think tomtom's brain doesn't work well when it calculate the root.
I Have navtech for my ipaq, that's works so great. On the shift, even I have to buy a external battery pack or maybe SSD to extend battery life, I'm going to use navigation by microsoft on Vista for best result. cuz I'm use navigation for my job!
If before u buy tomtom, u should buy other one...
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=wOesPtnXP9o
Shift has a qualcomm 7200 inside and this is the same chip used by kaiser. This chip has gps inside, as you can see in documentation or in video. Once we can put wm6 full on it we wiil be able to install any navigator and make use ot if....
If the antenna is installed, that is....
I believe if you look at the exposed internal photos of the Shift on the FCC website, they clearly define a GPS antenna. I don't know that it means that it has GPS for sure but it points to that direction.
danielherrero said:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=wOesPtnXP9o
Shift has a qualcomm 7200 inside and this is the same chip used by kaiser. This chip has gps inside, as you can see in documentation or in video. Once we can put wm6 full on it we wiil be able to install any navigator and make use ot if....
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I was under the impression the qualcom didnt make it to the final production model and that the Shift just has the one processor?
firedup said:
I was under the impression the qualcom didnt make it to the final production model and that the Shift just has the one processor?
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totally wrong impression
it has a full MSM7xxx inside
cmonex said:
totally wrong impression
it has a full MSM7xxx inside
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I cant see it mentioned in my documentation or on any of the UK websites selling it. Is this a deliberate omission to leave out the 2nd processor details?!? I've heard of them leaving out GPS functionality but the whole processor?
also had gps tools in the old test roms
firedup said:
I cant see it mentioned in my documentation or on any of the UK websites selling it. Is this a deliberate omission to leave out the 2nd processor details?!? I've heard of them leaving out GPS functionality but the whole processor?
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the ARM9 processor is just for the radio.
the ARM11 is the applications processor, i.e. for running WM and apps.
it's not dualcore in the sense an intel core 2 duo is.
edit: sorry i see now you meant the whole MSM is not mentioned. well that's easy to explain why... the WM6 side is supposed to be just a sideshow, so why mention the hardware specs for it.
it also has its own RAM, etc. etc.
if you heard of the dualcor prototype, well the HTC shift is like that. two full devices in one!
Anyone noticed there is a GPS section on the FAQ part of the HTC Shift site?
http://www.htc.com/www/Faq_detail.aspx?p_id=60&act=faq&cat=266
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yea i noticed that too.... what gives? if theres gps in here why the hell don't they let us use it!! I love HTC but i hate the fact that the always "disable" key hardware or features, If you don't want the device to have it, don't tease us by putting it in the first place!!
datacrime said:
yea i noticed that too.... what gives? if theres gps in here why the hell don't they let us use it!! I love HTC but i hate the fact that the always "disable" key hardware or features, If you don't want the device to have it, don't tease us by putting it in the first place!!
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Well... Maybe they leave this GPS option open incase something cookes his own rom and then the GPS function is enabled.
HTC will then have the option to release a rom with GPS otherwise no one wants to use their original rom!
here some info.....http://www.pringle.net.nz/blog/PermaLink,guid,46fcc9e9-26e8-4c40-b262-58a5366cb587.aspx
so let's investigate.....
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expansys shows two versions of the shift, one with gps and one without. I think that htc is planning to release a gps version too, which will probably cost more too
I figured it couldn't hurt try a couple things after reading all the posts in this thread.
This what I tried so far.
I installed google maps for WM6
I copied over Telenav folder from my X7501
I copied the following files from the Windows directory on my X7501 to the Window dir. on my Shift.
TeleNavPlug.dll
GPSAux.dll.0409.mui
GPSAux.dll
After resetting I now have
Under Settings > system the External GPS appplication.
Telenav that starts up and seem to work but cannot find the GPS
Google maps tht works but cannot find the GPS.
I tried abunch of combinations of com port, access setting, etc in the External GPS application. I tried all the ones that worked on my X7501 and few other that didn't but no luck.
When I changed the access setting in the external GPS application it dose change the messages I am getting from google maps. Google maps seems to think there is GPS there but never gets any sat locks or times out trying to initialize the GPS (depends on the settings). I am using the shift in the same place my X7501 gets several sat locks.
Dose anyone else have any ideas I can try or know of any file I missed?
I know should probably wait for people smarter than I am to work on this but I figured I would give it a try...
anyone have this unit yet or know anything about it ..i just order one ..should be here in a 7 to 14 days .. I would like advice on the best way to do a complete backup of factory rom and partitons ...thanks
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2G-R...2707119098.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.54.PW30db
I have the 1g model just got it installed. Wish now I would have went with a r3188 MTCB unit. Seems they are getting the most interest and mods.
Cid6.7 said:
I have the 1g model just got it installed. Wish now I would have went with a r3188 MTCB unit. Seems they are getting the most interest and mods.
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what type is the unit you got ..let get the details...
still would like to knowe best way to do a complete backup of factory rom and partitons ...thanks
unit came in the other day loaded up some the apps and all seems well.. so far im happy...
Thanks for reporting. What is the boot time? Is bluetooth working? Do you have any downsides so far with this unit?
Also, did you receive the firmware from the seller?
It's working good .can someone give me advice on the best way to root and backup original ROM/firmware.. what other roms can use with this unit... and if I were to root and something got messed up would a factory reset restore it to the state it was when it came out of the box
[email protected] said:
It's working good .can someone give me advice on the best way to root and backup original ROM/firmware.. what other roms can use with this unit... and if I were to root and something got messed up would a factory reset restore it to the state it was when it came out of the box
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I installed TFS Launcher 3D shell, and it works fine and changed everything on the unit and it made it look great
The seller sent me a copy of the original ROM
I'm glad I found a thread about this unit. I bought the 2gb model. I'm generally pleased with it, but I have the weirdest audio "source" behavior.
For example Tunein radio will not output any audio at all. Poweramp will play half a track and then switch the output to the radio tuner, Mediamonkey will play a track and then switch to the radio tuner at the end of each track. It's incredibly frustrating!
Waze and Here maps' audio seems to work OK, and other internet radio apps seem to function OK. There seems to be no logic behind the behavior that I can pinpoint. Anyone got any ideas??? Perhaps there's a way of turning 'off' the radio tuner when it's not being used?
I very rarely post on forums, as generally I can find solutions myself in the end, but this one has me foxed!
Incidentally, I joined this forum back in 2004 when I got an original HTC-built O2 XDA 2 - seems a long time ago
Ashraf.eldaoushy said:
I installed TFS Launcher 3D shell, and it works fine and changed everything on the unit and it made it look great
The seller sent me a copy of the original ROM
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Do you have the link for that update?
i am collecting them on the repository for our units:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...pment/mtcd-intel-sofia-units-wifi-3g-t3533154
Hi,
I just bought a 2006 X3 with what seems to be a crappy aftermarket head unit, from the brand pen-hui.
When I start the head unit it comes up with a BMW launcher app, offering me very limited functions. I am in IT and I'am used to admin access everyone to fix at root level, but I can't figure out how to get this access on this head unit.
The 2 things that really doesn't work for me is:
- I can't pair my phone with Bluetooth, and I can't unpair paired phones. There is a unpair button on the list of paired device, but it's always inactive.
- The audio app that reads a micro SD can't even work with a folder structure and just displays all the tracks in a list.
I believe it's an android OS under the hood, and I would like to access the Android experience so I can maybe upgrade it, or at least choose my apps/launcher, and troubleshoot my problems.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Find out some details first bud. What era is it? Might be worth ripping it out, flogging it on the bay of E and getting something better.
Now I managed to pair my phone via Bluetooth, but it will only do phone pairing, but no media pairing, therefore I can't play music from my phone. I have a Galxy s7, tried with my wife's iPhone and got the same problem.
skezza said:
Find out some details first bud. What era is it? Might be worth ripping it out, flogging it on the bay of E and getting something better.
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Hey thanks Skezza, I appreciate your quick reply. I have no idea how old it is, but I suspect quite old, because of all the problem I mentioned, no recent headunit would behave like this. And if I can't fix it, I'll buy a new one, but I would obviously prefer to save the money.
AlexanderKanaK said:
Hey thanks Skezza, I appreciate your quick reply. I have no idea how old it is, but I suspect quite old, because of all the problem I mentioned, no recent headunit would behave like this. And if I can't fix it, I'll buy a new one, but I would obviously prefer to save the money.
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Take a photo of the UI and stuff, we'll try and help. It could be an old Android 2.x unit. I've seen them in cars, even recently (saw one the other day in a Civic). To be honest, they're totally worthless at this point and pretty much useless too other than playing mp3's and discs. They're worth even less than a WinCE unit. WinCE is kind of timeless whereas those old Android units are now being heavily bitten by the obsolescence bug. Maps won't work (and if it does, it'll be an old version). The internet won't work. None of it will work mate.
To be honest, I love the 8.0 unit I've bought, but I'm entirely aware that already, it's a race. 3 years time, it'll be basically junk Best you can hope for is a few updates but realistically, Android isn't designed to last, whereas WinCE and the like is.
Please Help.. I purchased the Blaupunkt Head unit with Android version 10. they have locked everything and i am not able to connect any of the external Bluetooth enable device . they denied the permission to connect any of the device except the phone for music and calls.
kindly help on this.. how to root and modify the Bluetooth permission file to get connect other Bluetooth devices .
riz76 said:
Please Help.. I purchased the Blaupunkt Head unit with Android version 10. they have locked everything and i am not able to connect any of the external Bluetooth enable device . they denied the permission to connect any of the device except the phone for music and calls.
kindly help on this.. how to root and modify the Bluetooth permission file to get connect other Bluetooth devices .
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Your really should provide pictures of your MCU and used firmware.
Just guessing makes no sense.
rigattoni said:
Your really should provide pictures of your MCU and used firmware.
Just guessing makes no sense.
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attaching the screen shot.. Please help me on this .. actually i want to reset the Bluetooth configure file because i can not pair any device due to restricted permission.
riz76 said:
attaching the screen shot.. Please help me on this .. actually i want to reset the Bluetooth configure file because i can not pair any device due to restricted permission.
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Sorry to say, but I think you will only be able to connect phones and OBD on your device, even if you would be able to root it. The implemented BT-stack is not able to do it.
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Sorry to say, but I think you will only be able to connect phones and OBD on your device, even if you would be able to root it. The implemented BT-stack is not able to do it.
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Ok.. i wish to connect TPMS as well.
Kindly help me to crack this..
Can we change the new os on this? I mean new android 11 version.
Please guide me to root it and help to read developers option too. I am not able to see the developers option anywhere as they hide it.
riz76 said:
Ok.. i wish to connect TPMS as well.
Kindly help me to crack this..
Can we change the new os on this? I mean new android 11 version.
Please guide me to root it and help to read developers option too. I am not able to see the developers option anywhere as they hide it.
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I am not able to help you with this unit.
You will not be able to switch any other firmware on it and there are some devices in the wild where the dev options are even not available.
You can try to push the firmware entry 7 times and may be you will get access to it. It´s often just hidden.
At least it seems that you bought the wrong unit for your requirements... I would prefer something like a Teyes CC3 as mentioned in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/teyes-cc3.4189041/
These units are really better to root, there is an easy way to get updates, you woould be enabled to use other BT units as phone and OBD...
Yes they are not that cheap as may be yours, but you get what you payed for.
rigattoni said:
I am not able to help you with this unit.
You will not be able to switch any other firmware on it and there are some devices in the wild where the dev options are even not available.
You can try to push the firmware entry 7 times and may be you will get access to it. It´s often just hidden.
At least it seems that you bought the wrong unit for your requirements... I would prefer something like a Teyes CC3 as mentioned in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/teyes-cc3.4189041/
These units are really better to root, there is an easy way to get updates, you woould be enabled to use other BT units as phone and OBD...
Yes they are not that cheap as may be yours, but you get what you payed for.
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I am disappointment to listen this. Please help me as now i paid for this 300$ in India. Please suggest if we can flush and change the new OS on this.. if it is possible then kindly guide me step by step how to install new Android OS on it and where to download clean OS .
anyone else can help on this please ?
Is anyone able to help me identify what unit this is? Its meant to be a higher end unit but finding it really sluggish and also looking at some of the reports its using > 6GB of ram OOB out of 8GB (Not sure how the 2GB unit would have worked) .
Sometimes when turning it back on from standby when playing music etc its really jumpy as its its doing something in the background. Anyone got any recommendations on apps to show what using up all the CPU?
It appears to be a UIS8581 based unit, I have run the HWGetinfo tool on it but its reporting its not a FYT unit.
Post Android system information, including MCU version
The version is retuned as "ZLH_AD_OS_1.24" and the MCU "ZLH_QXLA20830A_Q5H0_8581_13"
Rob_Quads said:
The version is retuned as "ZLH_AD_OS_1.24" and the MCU "ZLH_QXLA20830A_Q5H0_8581_13"
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This is a completely known unit in here. Try search yourself in this forum for ZLA_ you won´t find anything.
Bit harsh - I have been search but how am I meant to know to search for ZLA not ZLH? Also, searching for "ZLA_" returns a total of 1 hit, a google search for `XDA developers "ZLA_"` also returns just a couple hits not in this forum?
I'm also with the same thing.
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Bit harsh - I have been search but how am I meant to know to search for ZLA not ZLH? Also, searching for "ZLA_" returns a total of 1 hit, a google search for `XDA developers "ZLA_"` also returns just a couple hits not in this forum?
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ZLA was a typo... sorry.
My posting was not meant to be harsh, but this unit is really completely unknown on XDA.
Yeah that looks like the BMW equivalent to mine with a slightly different CPU
Bhold89 said:
I'm also with the same thing.
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Talking with the seller, mine was sold by COIKA.
It seems that it follows some patterns that are very similar to other HU's, you just need to make the following to update for example, the boot logo:
Folder structure:
- HUTUpdate
- OS
- bootanimation.zip
- logo.png
- upgrade.en (empty file)
- upgrade.system (empty file)
So, if you find other examples of HU types that are Android-based, this may work.
To upgrade the MCU is
- HUTUpdate
- mcu
- upgrade.mcu
- BMW_8581.bin
I was trying to make backups with other tools, but no success yet.
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
simonb123 said:
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
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Which HU do you have?
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
Bhold89 said:
Which HU do you have?
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MTK8581a 8/128 for BMW
Tom1386 said:
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
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Hi i have the same unit on my audi q3 with the same firmware 1.86, also i have problem with bluetooth but i want aks you if you turn off the original bluetooth of your car ? Do you use zlink for carplay/android auto? Thanks
Mikdiba86 said:
Hi i have the same unit on my audi q3 with the same firmware 1.86, also i have problem with bluetooth but i want aks you if you turn off the original bluetooth of your car ? Do you use zlink for carplay/android auto? Thanks
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I use my phone via original Bluetooth on the car. I don't use zlink anymore. As I have the headunit online it makes it easier to use gmaps etc directly.
Do you have a SIM card installed? Does it work? My one does not connect as there is no apn and I cannot set new one. Did you bought it from coika?
Tom1386 said:
I use my phone via original Bluetooth on the car. I don't use zlink anymore. As I have the headunit online it makes it easier to use gmaps etc directly.
Do you have a SIM card installed? Does it work? My one does not connect as there is no apn and I cannot set new one. Did you bought it from coika?
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i use only zlink...because i like the home of carplay..i don't use the sim card ...yes i bought from coika by aliexpress. for me you need disable original bluetooth of car..and use only headunit..one question..but the our unit is mtcd?
I don't know who is the main manufacturer. Coika says they are the own manufacturers. But don't belieb them. Struggling with the service people since days... Apps are closing after you switch to car system... bluetooth is only working with mobile phone...no obd device etc... SIM card is not working...but they keep me waiting
Similar unit here (Mercedes version):
Version: ZLH_BZ_OS_1.80
MCU: ZLH_BZL221030A_8581_13
Android version 12 (fake - it's 10 - see below)
More info in attached photos.
The 8888 code gets you into factory settings, as in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-not-fyt-based-read-first-post-first.4525675/
I installed the "Fake Device Test" app and it closes after 1 or 2 seconds (possible sabotage by the device?) but I managed to get the OS info by quickly flicking down the screen while videoing it, then playing back in slow motion. This confirmed the Android API level as 29 (ie Android 10). It also seems to confirm the claimed 8GB RAM and 1920x720 screen are correct.
I want to have a poke around with ADB and busybox, but so far haven't been able connect. The unit claims to be rooted.
Wireless Android Auto works, but one minor annoyance is that my phone seems to give up on Android Auto before the unit is ready to connect. A quick toggle of bluetooth and reconnect to the unit once it's ready is necessary. Also, you need to use a cable for AA when the ZLink app on the device is set to HD - wireless AA on HD delivers a pillarboxed display.
And despite all the images on AliExpress showing 5 icons per page in the launcher, I've only got 3 per page. Is this launcher configurable?
I don't know why exactly, but I have a nagging suspicion that the screen might be a lower resolution than reported, I need to see what the kernel/sysfs says. Do these units have a dmesg somewhere? Or could there be a problem caused by the screen being reported as only 7 inches, as I saw in the output of one of the System Info apps I tried? (Screen is actually 10.25 inches.
One thing I really want to do is get a full backup in case of future problems. Is using TWRP possible on these devices? There is a 1.5 GB "update.zip" on the internal storage, I need get a copy and examine it.
Investigations continue, I'll report back. In the meantime, does anyone have any thoughts on the above?
Tom1386 said:
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
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I have gooting a new 9" android unit for AUDI. With same seller and issue.
Thinking of making a thread
simonb123 said:
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
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I have AUDI ill compare because folder structurer is similar