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Trinity will get GPS !!

Just found official information that the Trinity will get GPS
See folowing link to the latest HTC brochure.
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/products/HTC_PRODUCT_BROCHURE_V2_111006.pdf
Guess many of us are happy now

read the bulletin - "Standalone GPS" means an indipendent accessories that provide GPS connectivity... it will be available shortly, which is not a specially fresh news since standalone BT GPSs' have been on the market for a while now (Haicom etc)

its all a bit ambiguous - if you have a look at the way they write up the p3300 you see there choice of words is "standalone gps"

it doesn't matter, even without the GPS function i will still get a set

As we say in Germany : The one who can read has a clear advantage... Trinity will not have GPS on board, period. Xenov, first post, welcome, you are excused...

Lucas0511 said:
As we say in Germany : The one who can read has a clear advantage... Trinity will not have GPS on board, period. Xenov, first post, welcome, you are excused...
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Let's interpred the text this way: HTC will not praise their latest top notch product in the first line of text with "Standalone GPS" when in reality it is a separate GPS device. This is not like HTC.
When "standalone GPS" means a seperate GPS device, then this text would apply to all today's pocket PC's... and HTC would not use this phrase in the first line of text to praise their new pride...
Time will tell, let everyone judge for his/her own...

Mate, read carefully: The "standalone" GPS refers to the HTC 3300, and that is the HTC Artemis, not Trinity. But by now HTC boss Peter Chou must have understood that you are really keen on GPS ))
And as we say in Germany : Other mothers have beautiful daughters, too. Look at this baby, a competitor to HTC Artemis, with GPS:
http://www.etencorp.com/products/Communication/x500.php

IMHO the standalone perhaps means that they will release the HTC branded BT GPS module

Lucas0511 said:
Mate, read carefully: The "standalone" GPS refers to the HTC 3300, and that is the HTC Artemis, not Trinity. But by now HTC boss Peter Chou must have understood that you are really keen on GPS ))
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At both devices HTC mentiones "Standalone GPS": P3600 aka Trinity AND P3300 aka Artemis... Sorry but this is the way it is... can't change it

English - the worlds most ambiguous language......
Either HTC's marketing department is completely useless or they wanted us to stir up this debate for a reason (time for another paranoid pill)
or
we are all just kidding ourselves
(probably the latter)
inevitably only time will tell

What about letiting it mean that unlike the Artemis that comes with stand alone gps and program installed, Trinity will have stand alone gps, but without the program. So that you can choose whichever provider you like
Cheer up guys!!

If there would be GPS "in" the device, all those people testing the device would have noticed it for sure.

From what I read earlier, the GPS is already inside the device but it has not been activated as it conflicts with the Quad-band GSM chip. However, it is said there there will be a ROM upgrade in the future that would finally make the GPS module usable once the conflicts have been fixed.
From the PDF file, I would think that it supports the reports above. Reason being, for both the Trinity and Artemis, they are noted to have standalone GPS and we know for sure that the Artemis already has it.
I guess the reaon for them putting the * and saying that it would be available shortly for the Trinity is likely due to the reports where they are working on fixing the problem and would release a ROM upgrade to enable it in the future.
What do you guys think?

esackbauer said:
If there would be GPS "in" the device, all those people testing the device would have noticed it for sure.
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You might be right providing the GPS hardware is connected by software somehow.
The way I understand the situation is that the GPS unit is in the hardware, but not connected by software. Production of the hardware is running from mid october so the hardware won't change anymore.
The only way HTC can make the promised "standalone GPS available shortly", is by software update...

vapor said:
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What do you guys think?
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Agree....

Nice Trinity pics, even for those (like me) who do not understand Polish.
http://pdaclub.pl/view.php?news_id=11939

I guess you guys should check this this out; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279546 for clarification.

ah a beauty! white version triumphs big time over the black version...
if theres so much conflict abt the GPS issue in the Trinity why cant HTC rectify the problem then release the Trinity with GPS or discard the Quad-band GSM chip n use another chip!?!?!?

Thanks for the piscs, really nice the white one.
Hope we can enjoy the GPS on a next ROM upgrade. The time is more close...

Being involved into GPS business, I can say that "standalone GPS" would mean "standalone GPS mode" an opposite to AGPS, or even DGPS/RTK (though I doubt the latter). Read e.g. here:
The resulting AGPS system boosts performance beyond that of the same receiver in a stand-alone mode.
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If it was an external unit, I'm sure it would be called as such with additional "optional" remark.

tomtom 6 NAVIGATOR

I have installed a (legitimate since you ask) copy of tomtom NAVIGATOR 6 onto my MDA Vario II. The 4+ Mb programme resides in main memory and the Western_Europe map and everything else is on the 2Gb Sandisk Micro SD card. I have a Fuzion SiRF starIII bluetooth GPS receiver. tomtom's US website says the hardware and software are compatible, the UK site does not. The programme runs very slowly (it's not smooth as I have seen demonstrated on a Mio, which had a 312Mhz processor, but is stilted). Sometimes the machine locks up and I have to press the 'OK' button. When browsing the map, the machine struggles to process the picture. I ensure that there are no running programmes. What is the cause, please? Could it be that the hardware and software are incompatible?

just try to flash aku 3.3 to your vario. it will make ur phone work smooth and will not hang at all. then u will be able to run tomtom 6 perfectly

Rather than risk aku 3.3 issues I suggest you are probably right and there is soe sort of hardware issue. I have navigator 6 and TOMTOM BT receiver and hav absolutely no issues at all

I use TT6 on a daily basis and I can say that under WM5 AKU2.3 it used to hang very often when putting post code. I ran ok. After flashing AKU3.3 it works flawlessly. The same with WM6. Now it also seems to run a little bit faster.

Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...

silvino said:
Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...
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Welcome, but you are in the wrong place my friend. This is the HTC Hermes forum. This site is primarily for HTC devices. However here is Tomtom 6 for PPC phones (official tomtom site):
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Lid=1
Mike

What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.

ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.

Yostin said:
What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.
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yep this is the same on mine, disabled all but a few POIs and no or very rare freezes. if it does freeze up hit the hangup button and relaunch.
there was some hope with the Version 7 tomtom out soon that there would be a fix for the problem.

Acuum2 said:
ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.
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My Hermes is running with AKU 3.3 and my TomTom is 6.0.30

ok. i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on.
at least you will loose the anoying mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)

ok well the results your described i saw with the first tomtom 6 i used, im assumeing it was on 6.0.00 but i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but
it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on. I'm using that this week by mistake since my last hard reset but its been stable for me.
at least you will loose the anoying 6.0.30 mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)

Advice for noob

I have been interested in getting a PDA phone for a while but wanted to wait till I could get one with SatNav built in.
I went to the Orange shop and they said that the SPV M700 (aka HTC p3600) was the one for me, but when I went back for a second look another guy said it did not have GPS and I would have to buy a module etc....so he really put me off.
Now I learn that Orange has the GPS module working out of the box, so that you can install tomtom and it works!!
The question I have now is does the Trinity work well with Skype over a wireless and/or 3G network? As this is another consideration for me..
Thanks for being gentle

Hi....I have not had a lot of experiance with Skype --- but the Trinity does have a powerful processor that should hold up. Until the next generation of HTC devices come out.
As for GPS -- if it is a P3600 it should have GPS -- but it may not be ACTIVATED. That is easily resolved by upgraqding the ROM. I have TomTom 6 working on mine....the GPS receiver is not 100% accurate -- but good enough. The device is a small size and packs a lot in it.
Hope this helps you.

I have the m700, and it does have GPS. It is certainly not mentioned on the orange site, or on the box, and the first time you see it mentioned is in the instruction book
You don't need to activate it or upgrade the ROM. It is hidden, and there are no icons to press to know it is there, but all you do is set the sat-nav/gps software to look at 'com 9' and it gets data from the gps chip.
I use it with TomTom 6 and it is great. It even picks up satelites while in a building, which is not something my other units ever did.
I don't use skype, but if you download SJphone from www.sjlabs.com , then you can use the device for VOIP, and it works well over WiFi. And the software is free.

Thanks for the quick replies, they have given me confidence to go ahead with getting the M700, perhaps even tomorrow!!
You would think that SatNav/GPS is a feature to be advertised!
Anyway, the "Com 9" is a good tip, as I am sure it will save me a headache when trying out tomtom, thanks PaulusUK

Which GPS software to use

Which version of which GPS software works on the Touch HD ? i used to use the Miomap and IGo8 on the Touch Cruise but cannot get them to work.
Perhaps with a tweak ?
thanks, yves

Just search the forum.
There are threads for iGO8, TomTom and Navigon. All of them work on the HTC Touch HD (with some tweaks).

http://www.66.com/route66/index.php?cid=UK&act=1&prodid=5723 works without tweaks.

iGO works but is not really useable in my opinion
there is no "programm close" button in expert mode, only one in simple mode.
program nearly never really gets closed by command.
voice from the navigation continues in programm-volume-setting, even after you are back in touchFlow and used task manager to stop the program.
it still runs and runs ..
a next problem is the standby mode.
you cant set it up, that while iGO is active, standby wont happen.
at the moment, you start navigation, wait some seconds without doing anything, but listening and the HD drops in standby.
and NO i dont want to set new windows standby settings everytime i want to use a navigation tool :/

I believe you can get them all working with the right tweaks.
I've used TomTom for years, without any problem. Currently using v7.910 on my Touch HD and it looks nice.
For fun I also downloaded Navigon (there's a two week free trial with full functionality) and with the help of a couple of xml files have it running. Different look and feel to Tom Tom but I like it. Probably worth a look for the two week free trial if nothing else.
Have seen iGo8 and I must say I like the look of it. Have seen a thread with details of a tweak, though that may have been for an earlier release.
Currently waiting for my TomTom services to run out (speed cameras and traffic) and then I may switch. The UI looks fantastic, but have to justify the cost to the missus .....

loadme said:
iGO works but is not really useable in my opinion
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I don't know what you have messed up, but for me it works just fine. Not a single "bug" you mentioned has occured, maybe you are just using the wrong version / configuration.
I had also some problems in the beginning (dropping the gps), but after setting up the right configuration it works just fine for me now.

johnpatcher said:
I don't know what you have messed up, but for me it works just fine. Not a single "bug" you mentioned has occured, maybe you are just using the wrong version / configuration.
I had also some problems in the beginning (dropping the gps), but after setting up the right configuration it works just fine for me now.
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You are correct, it works fine. However, occasional GPS drop does happen, and, from what I understand, it happens with all softwares, not just IGO. I would also be curious to know what configuration could possible effect GPS dropping issue?
Thanks

michael_r said:
I would also be curious to know what configuration could possible effect GPS dropping issue?
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For me it was the wrong baud rate. It must be set to 9600. As I was using GPSGate I had to change the baud rate within GPSGate and not in iGO8.

loadme said:
iGO works but is not really useable in my opinion
there is no "programm close" button in expert mode, only one in simple mode.
program nearly never really gets closed by command.
voice from the navigation continues in programm-volume-setting, even after you are back in touchFlow and used task manager to stop the program.
it still runs and runs ..
a next problem is the standby mode.
you cant set it up, that while iGO is active, standby wont happen.
at the moment, you start navigation, wait some seconds without doing anything, but listening and the HD drops in standby.
and NO i dont want to set new windows standby settings everytime i want to use a navigation tool :/
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Kinda strange that you are incapable of setting up a navigation software like igo on the Touch HD.
I myself only had to set the resolution and voila, all worked perfectly.
All the so called 'failures' are entirely untrue from my point of view.
Cause they work perfectly ! (yes also shutdown in expert mode), maybe your failure is using the correct settings in the sys.txt file...
Therfore I have to disagree with you completely on the IGO satisfaction scale.
I give it a 9,7 out of 10 (cause it can always be improved).
Tomtom is great and also is IGo in my opinion (havn't tried the rest om my HD).
with regards,
Ikkezelf

I am using Garmin Mobile XT, and it looks and works a treat.......
IGO8, does look good but there seems to be a lot of screen size problems for the HD. I too have tried IGO8 and all the stuffing around to get the correct screen resolution files sent me nuts.

I am using co-pilot 7, working well so far, especially when I remember to switch it from walking mode to car

A quick summary of my experiences with iGo 8, TomTom 7 and Garmin Mobile XT on the HD, in the UK.
iGo 8
Pros:
Has the nicest looking graphics, with terrain elevation and 3D models of major landmarks (and many more buildings too, in major cities) and a good variety of views.
Text-to-speech support for reading out road names, if you have enough memory (sometimes needs a reboot or to disable TouchFlo to get enough - sadly it doesn't default to the normal non-TTS if there's not enough memory, so you have to turn it back manually).
Routing between multiple maps installed.
Cons:
Long startup time.
Incorrect speed limits in my area (30 instead of 60-70 on some roads!)
The voice directions have been misleading when crossing a roundabout over a motorway, telling me to incorrectly take the first exit from a roundabout, when the direction arrow clearly shows the second. I verified by plotting a route on to the motorway that it also said "first exit" for that exit too. Very strange - I haven't seen problems with other roundabouts, yet.
Bad default POIs, listing the nearest cash machine as 25 miles away, when I was standing right next to one and no shops that I was looking for.
TomTom 7
Pros:
Reasonable across the board.
Cons:
Average default POIs, finding cash machines but not most shops.
Garmin Mobile XT
Pros:
Great default POIs, being able to track down most shops, etc.
Great free online services, such as Google local search, cheapest petrol
prices nearby, weather, traffic reports, flight status and Panoramio.
Being able to install subsets of maps, to reduce space on the device.
Cons:
Very slow graphics engine.

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[*]Text-to-speech support for reading out road names, if you have enough memory (sometimes needs a reboot or to disable TouchFlo to get enough - sadly it doesn't default to the normal non-TTS if there's not enough memory, so you have to turn it back manually).
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I'm using the latest iGO8.0.x release and haven't noticed any memory problem at all. I think it is a problem of the 8.3.X release(s), as they are not optimized for our devices yet. There are some sys.txt tweaks regarding to the tts functionality out there, maybe they will fix it for you.
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Long startup time.
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What do you mean by that? Mine is up and ready after 10 seconds (or something like that).
arghness said:
Incorrect speed limits in my area (30 instead of 60-70 on some roads!)
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That's not iGO8's fault at all. The speed limits are integrated in the card material, mostly coming from tele atlas. For Germany the cards are really good.
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Bad default POIs, listing the nearest cash machine as 25 miles away, when I was standing right next to one and no shops that I was looking for.
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Haven't noticed any lacks of pois yet. But you can easily add pois (look for poi plaza).

johnpatcher said:
I'm using the latest iGO8.0.x release and haven't noticed any memory problem at all. I think it is a problem of the 8.3.X release(s), as they are not optimized for our devices yet. There are some sys.txt tweaks regarding to the tts functionality out there, maybe they will fix it for you.
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I'll take a look, thanks. The normal voices are fine, just not the tts. It could be due to the high quality tts rather than the 11KHz pack.
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What do you mean by that? Mine is up and ready after 10 seconds (or something like that).
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It's not unusable, it just takes longer than the others. Sometimes I want to quickly look something up. My usage scenario and my opinion of course
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That's not iGO8's fault at all. The speed limits are integrated in the card material, mostly coming from tele atlas. For Germany the cards are really good.
Haven't noticed any lacks of pois yet. But you can easily add pois (look for poi plaza).
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I did say it was my experience in the UK. Also, I think that they do count as negative points against iGo as they make it less useful to me compared to the competition. Giving incorrect voice directions is bad, especially when the visual direction is correct. I'm glad you're happy with it - the graphics engine, buildings and terrain really are good. I'd love to see some online integration like Garmin, especially Google local search, which would make the POIs less of an issue.

Gps sofware in uae
Just for anybody here in UAE ... Sygic Drive 2008 from ORION MIDDLE EAST.. works great on my HD.. and its maps are more updated for the GCC regions.. atleast here in UAE..

My comparison between Garmin mobile XT Vs Mapking R12
hello
yesterday i have chance to fully try out my GPS function on my new HD
This is my findings...
I have expirient using Mapking R12 with my Tytn2 and it is much faster in the term of rerouting if u miss any turn,the accuracy is much better but the graphic is quite "cartoon"... anyway it is quite simple to use and straight forward....
With garmin mobile XT i found that, graphic is cool, many additional information such as speed limit, traffic light and ETA....time...
but it is not that easy to handle in term of finding your destination, etc...
it is slow responding and this can cause u miss some turn since u been passing that turn about 5-10 meters then only in the graphic u will reach there... the speed indicator also slow 10 Kmph...then my speedo meter
anyway i'm not really sure this is due to the sofware or the GPS chip... since i'm comparing my expirient with 2 different device that running with 2 different sofware
anyway i will try to run my HD with mapking and look the different....

Comparison TomTom 7, IGO 8 and INAVI
TOMTOM 7:
It has the most user-friendly interface and most stright-forward menu. You get whatever you want in just several pushes of buttons. Maps are very precise in west Europa and I think in the USA. In other countries maps aren't that good if they exist. It computes almost the best way. Better than all other programs.
IGO 8
It is the most complete navigation program. It has plenity of options. The drawback of this is that you will need more time to do the same thing. The most useful function not available in TomTom is easy moving and zoming map during navigation. It has maps for much more countries for Israel, Eastern Europa and they are more precise (there are even 3D buildings) and they take less space. If you travel outside Europa and USA or like exploring options then it will be the best choice.
INAVI
It is good. It's the only choice for eastern Europe and some other countries. It has many options (more than TomTom and less than IGO) but navigation is less easy and less precise than others. You can choose it if there is no maps for the country where you go.
Personally I choose TomTom 7 because of it's stright-forward interface. In the car you don't have a lot of time to play with options. 3D buildings don't interest me (I can see them through the window) and I live in west Europe.

Just installed Garmin Mobile XT
Updated to version 5.00.20wp
I'm impressed, works full screen and very smooth, Garmin Online is very well integrated, the interface is clean and easy to navigate, you can really just install and drive/walk off (I did not have to do anything to activate the GPS just plug in the MicroSD card and it automatically installed the soft and I could start navigating)
This does not mean that things cannot be customized, from my first look at the settings it looks like just about anything can be customized.
The integration with WM seems very complete too, from the large "Where to" button I can select a contact and it will have a large "Go" button to start navigating to it.
This morning I tested it in my car and I even got a phonecall during navigating which went flawless, the phone screen came on but I went back to Garmin Mobile via the Start menu and it continued navigating (the data connection was stopped so no more Garmin Online service but it did not stop the navigation)
Voice prompts and warning signals were quite clear through the HD speaker.
The only thing is that the location of my car holder might not be ideal on the open road it was ok but the GPS connection became quite erratic when I entered the city, the GPS info screen showed only 3 satellites that flickered on and off, when I took it out of the holder and held it to the windscreen things got better.

hijamir said:
the speed indicator also slow 10 Kmph...then my speedo meter
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this is normal, the speedo in your car is set slower than the actual speed by design (so you don't think you're driving the speed limit but you're actually speeding). If GPS connection is good GPS speed can be accurate to about 0.1km.
On road GPSes there is always a 1 second lag (1Hz, professional and aviation GPSes can have multiple Hz updates) so accelerating/decelerating will not be correct but for constant speeds the GPS indication is superior to most cars speedos.

I've never had a gps device before, and am pretty new to the whole Winmo scene in general. I saw someone mention that Route 66 worked without tweaking so I bought a discounted version of their Route 66 Navigate 7. I wasn't able to install it directly from the CD, but their customer support responded within an hour or two telling me to copy the memory card directory from the CD directly to my HD's card and run the .cab from the phone.
Works great. Now I just have to fool around with it so I know how to actually use it effectively.. lol.
From their website they list the HD as compatible for their latest "8" version too. I just decided to get the old one for cheap since I don't really have a need for gps. Maybe I'll upgrade at some point if it's worth it.

Best GPS Software For The HD2

I will not be testing any free GPS Navigation software.
I will begin testing the following GPS Navigation Software for Windows Phone tonight.
I will be posting reviews for the major ones with tips to tweak the settings to get most out of your Windows Phone.
I will also be testing the Radio Firmwares and see which ones play nice.
Start off with
Garmin Mobile XT
TomTom
Navigon
Which other ones should I test?

Try CoPilot Live
I have CoPilot Live 8 installed on my HD2. It picked up the GPS receiver with no work on my part. Accuracy and speed seem good. It did not lag behind my actual location. I am curious about the quality of routes calculations versus some of the other programs. That's a software issue, not a GPS or HD2 issue.

I find that Garmin has a pretty bad lag on my hd2 with the stock class 2 card. IGO also has a lag but it's not so bad.

ddgarcia05 said:
I find that Garmin has a pretty bad lag on my hd2 with the stock class 2 card. IGO also has a lag but it's not so bad.
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Again, Explain the lag on the HD2, What part is lagging in Garmin when it starts up, Re-Calculating?
I experience no lag at all in Garmin Mobile XT 5.00.20
What rom are you using? Which Radio?

cdguider said:
Again, Explain the lag on the HD2, What part is lagging in Garmin when it starts up, Re-Calculating?
I experience no lag at all in Garmin Mobile XT 5.00.20
What rom are you using? Which Radio?
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I'm using an energy rom with 2.10 radio. What maps are you using? I'm using the 2011 maps which I had on my portable car garmin gps. Lag meaning as I drive past one street it'll take a second to actually show on the unit that i'm passing that particular street.

IGO8
I've been using IGO 8 for about 2 months now.
i had some problems initially getting it to pick up
on my gps receiver. I opened up google maps let that get
a fix on my location then opened up IGO8, fixed the problems.
i like this software (aside from no landscape)
but haven't tried any of the other ones so
i'd be interested in how it will stack up against the rest

I would also like to see CoPilot tested if you can. I tried the android version and I keeps getting a location half a block away while google maps reports my location correctly. I'd like to see your experience with it since it's a very cool looking program and has spoken street names.
The Garmin mobile xt runs beautifully on my hd2, I ran it side by side with my old 855 and they were step by step. Often tbe hd2 locks on to satellites quicker due to the agps. It ran so well I gave the 855 to my sister

I own TomTom 7, and just installed it today after purchasing the HD2 yesterday. Picked up the internal GPS perfectly fine without adjusting any settings. Runs very smoothly, trip calculations are fast, and it looks awesome on that big screen. Only thing I am concerned about is heat from sitting on my windshield mount in the sun, as I've read that some folks have had issues with the phone resetting when it gets hot.
I'll be interested to read anything else that your testing might come across.

the best one is NDrive
I use NDrive on my hd2 with no problems.
I tried many versions, but the only that works for me is:
NDrive ver.: 3.5.25 (856) DI
maps ver.: v.2.13
i'm new user and can't post links(remove spaces)
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if anyone tried newer versions please let us know.

Viciouse0216 said:
IGO8
I've been using IGO 8 for about 2 months now.
i had some problems initially getting it to pick up
on my gps receiver. I opened up google maps let that get
a fix on my location then opened up IGO8, fixed the problems.
i like this software (aside from no landscape)
but haven't tried any of the other ones so
i'd be interested in how it will stack up against the rest
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You should really take a look at my sticky which can be found in my sig. Not only would you have landscape but it'd look crystal clear.

Double. Sorry

supavnick said:
I use NDrive on my hd2 with no problems.
I tried many versions, but the only that works for me is:
NDrive ver.: 3.5.25 (856) DI
maps ver.: v.2.13
i'm new user and can't post links(remove spaces)
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if anyone tried newer versions please let us know.
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Not only are you new and can't post links, but you also might want to take a crash course on the forum rules. Posting links to warez sites is not allowed.
I removed the link in your post. In the future, please do not post such links.
-DH

I'm currently testing Garmin & TomTom
I will update with screenshots and maybe a video soon.
If anyone needs their GPS software to AutoRotate let me know.
It's an easy fix and does not require installing yet another application on your phone. Regisry tweak packaged in a cab.
Have a link at my other post about Garmin Auto Rotate and you will see.
The same can be done for most programs not just GPS Navigation.

Primo all the way
The best IMHO for HD2 is Primo. Which is next version from iGo8. I use Primo 1.1 with 800x480 data. Works like a charm, including TTS.

Suprisingly Good...
I was on a trip last week and realized I needed to find the route to a hotel from the airport. Since I didn't have a GPS device, I went into Bing and had it calculate my route. It gave me turn x turn voice navigation and I was able to get to the hotel with no issues. It was clear, direct and fast. It gave me plenty of warning when my next exit or turn was coming up based on my position.
Since I don't use Garmin or other GPS specific devices, I don't have much to compare it to but since this was free, no worries!

cyanprinter said:
I own TomTom 7, and just installed it today after purchasing the HD2 yesterday. Picked up the internal GPS perfectly fine without adjusting any settings. Runs very smoothly, trip calculations are fast, and it looks awesome on that big screen. Only thing I am concerned about is heat from sitting on my windshield mount in the sun, as I've read that some folks have had issues with the phone resetting when it gets hot.
I'll be interested to read anything else that your testing might come across.
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I use TomTom too - no probs here and i dont have any heat. The only thing with TomTom is that the company has ceased to update the navcore for win mob devices so the nice stuff that is available on the dedicated TomTom devices isnt available on PDA eg:street name voice.

cyanprinter said:
I own TomTom 7, and just installed it today after purchasing the HD2 yesterday.
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Where did you get TomTom v7? I just checked TomTom's site and the only mobile navigation I see is for the iPhone.

TomTom
Rambler358 said:
Where did you get TomTom v7? I just checked TomTom's site and the only mobile navigation I see is for the iPhone.
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Just do a search in TomTom website for TomTom Navigator. That's how I get the latest TomTom Navigator. I believe its version 7.917 if I am not mistaken. Also, someone in the forum posted that cab file somewhere here. Just do a search.

paolodoctolero said:
Just do a search in TomTom website for TomTom Navigator. That's how I get the latest TomTom Navigator. I believe its version 7.917 if I am not mistaken.
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Any chance you've got a link? I still couldn't locate it on TomTom's site.
Also, someone in the forum posted that cab file somewhere here. Just do a search.
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I don't think searching is necessary, as it's probably removed if a cab file was linked to (piracy).

Have you tried one of the air vent mounts that are available? They are all over e-bay. That would keep the HD2 out of the direct sunlight. I don't know which vent mount to suggest because someone gave me mine, and it doesn't have any manufacturer's markings on it.