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Best GPS Navigation Program For Hermes?

I recently purchased a GPS unit for my Hermes and am very interested in knowing what navigation programs everyone likes for traveling. I'm going to be using this in the US and occasionally in Canada - thanks for your input!

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lacroixdp said:
I recently purchased a GPS unit for my Hermes and am very interested in knowing what navigation programs everyone likes for traveling. I'm going to be using this in the US and occasionally in Canada - thanks for your input!
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I used TomTom 5 and now Version 6 with no issues at all. I've seen co-pilot live 6 up and running and I'm very impressed with that too, but TomTom has never let me down before, so I'd recommend that.

i 2nd tomtom navigator 6 (apart from the lockup sometimes when it sarts its great)

I'll give that a shot - thanks much! It's pretty pricey but it looks to be the best out there!

Tomtom 6 seems to do the job.. expensive though, very old maps in some cases, people in the US have been *****ing about it doing silly things.
Here in australia though, no problems so far. Although I'd like a map update to tell it of some local changes..

i am using tomtom5. it's ok, although sometimes it hangs the hermes.

Best GPS software depends a lot on your location; because of it's obvious purpose, the most important things are area coverage and maps quality, then comes the interface, POI management and so on... Tried TomTom Mobile and iGO and stuck with the latest, because the maps are far better and precise (in Romania where I live).
For off-road I use GPSDash, it has all the features some might need + the posibility to create user maps.

Entire USA in 1GB microSD w/ OCN5
Any body tried OnCourse Navigator 5 on their TYTN? I think this GPS software blows TomTom away w/ seamless USA fitting in 1GB microSD. ETA,elevation,speed displayed in 3D mode, map refresh rate of 4fps compared to the usual 1fps with the other usual display-(like time and next street to turn)
I just hope it is compatible with the Tytn...

Try iGo Europe 2006 (http://www.i-go.com/en/products/iGO_2006_SD/screenshots.php). VERY FAST and has less problem than TT. It also has better graphics.
The downside is that the POI listing sucks. If I search for McDonald's around my current location, it'll list those from 100 meters to 50 kilometers! The software enough to know I won't drive that long from my current location just to get a fries.

Well, I got Tomtom6, but my GPS unit that was supposed to be shipped to me today was reported as out of stock - so sounds like I'll be waiting a few more days to try it :/

I use the Garmin Que software with a Garmin GPS10 receiver. Works great. I own the North America maps as well as the Europe maps. Have used them extensively in NA and in the UK - very happy with the combo.
When I researched the options, the above combo was rather cheaper than the TomTom option.

If TT works then most other software will work too.
I've a few other programs I'm going to test to make sure they work but assuming they do then I'll have the folllowing installed and to use:
GPS Tuner
GPS Auto
VisualGPSce
Memory Map
Navigon Navigator

try mapopolis
mapopolis has a free demo. at 99.00 it is cheaper too.
I've been using it for a year on my harrier, and now on my 8525. Works pretty well on both.
I use an I-blue gps. sensitivity and reliability is very good, mini-usb charger is non-standard pinout though.
wes

wwwes said:
mapopolis has a free demo. at 99.00 it is cheaper too.
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Indeed, however, not unless you already own the software

the software is free to download. you pay for the maps only. to download the app, go to demo maps and the first step is downloading the app. the demo maps are short lived, but full function. I think you can keep downloading them over and over when when they expire.

iGuidance v3.0.1. It is excellent!
Everybody says "tom tom" because it's the most common name. After doing my research I settled on iGuidance and could not be happier. Good luck.

I'll definitely have to look at that too! My GPS unit is backordered... I'm still waiting on it ><

The problem w/ iGuidance is that you cannot fit the entire USA on a 2GB microSD. Map file is 2.5GB

lacroixdp said:
I recently purchased a GPS unit for my Hermes and am very interested in knowing what navigation programs everyone likes for traveling. I'm going to be using this in the US and occasionally in Canada - thanks for your input!
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hi i m using IGO 2006 in Germany and Turkey... its very cool Try it

Elwyn M3100 said:
If TT works then most other software will work too.
I've a few other programs I'm going to test to make sure they work but assuming they do then I'll have the folllowing installed and to use:
GPS Tuner
GPS Auto
VisualGPSce
Memory Map
Navigon Navigator
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I have GPS Tuner. Where do find the best source of maps? I have tried the OS site but once I've deleted all of the surround and extra graphics, you're left with a blurry image. google and multimap down't have sufficient detail for "off road".

tomtom 6 NAVIGATOR

I have installed a (legitimate since you ask) copy of tomtom NAVIGATOR 6 onto my MDA Vario II. The 4+ Mb programme resides in main memory and the Western_Europe map and everything else is on the 2Gb Sandisk Micro SD card. I have a Fuzion SiRF starIII bluetooth GPS receiver. tomtom's US website says the hardware and software are compatible, the UK site does not. The programme runs very slowly (it's not smooth as I have seen demonstrated on a Mio, which had a 312Mhz processor, but is stilted). Sometimes the machine locks up and I have to press the 'OK' button. When browsing the map, the machine struggles to process the picture. I ensure that there are no running programmes. What is the cause, please? Could it be that the hardware and software are incompatible?

just try to flash aku 3.3 to your vario. it will make ur phone work smooth and will not hang at all. then u will be able to run tomtom 6 perfectly

Rather than risk aku 3.3 issues I suggest you are probably right and there is soe sort of hardware issue. I have navigator 6 and TOMTOM BT receiver and hav absolutely no issues at all

I use TT6 on a daily basis and I can say that under WM5 AKU2.3 it used to hang very often when putting post code. I ran ok. After flashing AKU3.3 it works flawlessly. The same with WM6. Now it also seems to run a little bit faster.

Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...

silvino said:
Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...
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Welcome, but you are in the wrong place my friend. This is the HTC Hermes forum. This site is primarily for HTC devices. However here is Tomtom 6 for PPC phones (official tomtom site):
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Lid=1
Mike

What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.

ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.

Yostin said:
What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.
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yep this is the same on mine, disabled all but a few POIs and no or very rare freezes. if it does freeze up hit the hangup button and relaunch.
there was some hope with the Version 7 tomtom out soon that there would be a fix for the problem.

Acuum2 said:
ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.
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My Hermes is running with AKU 3.3 and my TomTom is 6.0.30

ok. i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on.
at least you will loose the anoying mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)

ok well the results your described i saw with the first tomtom 6 i used, im assumeing it was on 6.0.00 but i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but
it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on. I'm using that this week by mistake since my last hard reset but its been stable for me.
at least you will loose the anoying 6.0.30 mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)

TomTom 7 Takes ages to start! Mother of creation!

I have TT7 working fine on my Orange SPV M2000 running on the explode 6.11 rom.
However, I do have a problem.
TT7 takes around 5 minuets to start for the first time.
Strangely when TT7 has been turned off and the BA left on, starting TT7 the next time only takes 8 to 12 seconds.
TT7 runs from the device and the 715 map on SD.
I also have a problem with WiFi and phone, both can be very difficult to start.
Anyone else have these problems and can someone suggest a remedy.

120+ views and no reply, I guess I must have a unique problem. Tough titty.

Nope - I just read to know what is this about - I don't use BA for navigation any more nor see anything special in new version of TT7. I would just wait for another release - so far all of those releases are not official nor final.

Nothing special in the new TT7? OK then just to clarify and for what it's worth... We have been waiting ages for an official TT7 upgrade that just ain't coming. And just like the folk on this forum who crave the latest mobile rom upgrades, 7 is better than 6 because it can use the latest up-to-date (v7) maps
Also, it's infinitely better to have PPC/PDA because they are mini computers and a phone. PNA are limited to map reading and mp3.

I've been using BlueAngel for navigation for 2 years and I dumped the idea (and switched to PNA) because of constant problems with GPS-Bluetooth-BA. Now I just turn on the PNA and have the navigation ready nearly immediately and it always works. And beacause it's based on Windows CE 5.0, I can use any navigation system I want, apart from... TomTom, as this piece of **** does not support 480x272 screens, as the ONLY navigation software for Windows CE. So far no info about wide screens and TT7 - maybe indeed it's a bit better? Anyway for me much more effective is local navigation software, mostly because of better maps for Poland and quite interesting 3D interface (TT looks boring and outdated compared to Automapa).

I totally understand your view point but choosing the right satnav is really all about up-to-date maps and user friendliness.
TT7 is much easier and quicker to use in comparison to the competition.
I am still searching for the answer to why TT7 takes so long to start on my BA.

amzazine said:
I totally understand your view point but for me in the UK, TT7 is much easier and quicker to use in comparison to the competition.
Have you tried using Automapa on your BA?
I am still searching for the answer to why TT7 takes so long to start on my BA.
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I'm thinking it might be an issue with WM6.1 and above. I use TT6 and before I upgraded from WM6 to WM6.1, it was working like a charm. Now, it takes a few minutes to start up (and sometimes it even crashes)

I think you could be right. I use TT7 frequently and it might be worth reverting to mobile 6. Anyone know if you can safely revert from 6.11 to 6?

amzazine said:
I think you could be right. I use TT7 frequently and it might be worth reverting to mobile 6. Anyone know if you can safely revert from 6.11 to 6?
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It should be ok. You only need to flash the phone with the older rom and that's it. If you do it, please write some feedback in here since I am interested in finding out whether or not my theory was right.

...Charming!

when my phone is switcht off
tt7 is also starting very slow
with phone > normal
the same problem with mortplayer and thumbcal

I only have this problem since installing the 6.11 rom.
What rom is your BA running?
yrsmart said:
when my phone is switcht off
tt7 is also starting very slow
with phone > normal
the same problem with mortplayer and thumbcal
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amzazine said:
I only have this problem since installing the 6.11 rom.
What rom is your BA running?
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6.11, but its no problem for me, just for the batterie

Hi Guys.
How do you got TT7 instaled in Blue Angel? I tryed and got a popup message saying my device was not compatible. what's the trick?
Thanks

dcoelho said:
Hi Guys.
How do you got TT7 instaled in Blue Angel? I tryed and got a popup message saying my device was not compatible. what's the trick?
Thanks
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I have the information you need, but I am not sure if this site allows links for the cracked TT7 download.

TomTom is slow
Have you looked at the number of poi's you have showing on the map, the more you display the slower it loads.
Hope this helps

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Have you looked at the number of poi's you have showing on the map, the more you display the slower it loads.
Hope this helps
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POI's are not the main problem as TT6 started fine under winmobile 2003se with even more POI's than I have now.
I just did a test and removed all POI's and the problem remains.
POI's do slow TomTom during operation but my problem is the initial starting of the application.

Hi,
Got Qtek 9090 running xplode 7.00 rom ver 6.10.00 and Tomtom 7 runs perfect. I did have problems with TT6, taking long time to boot and find BT sat nav reciever.
Best rom so far....cooool

Good to hear it!
Can you point me to the new Xplode 7.00 rom please... I have searched but cant find it.

TomTom 7 is always about 200 meters behind my actual position

Hi there,
i am running tt7 on my Asus P535 with WM 6.
I have this problem:
TomTom is always about 200 meters behind my actual position. I think this is so because of an not well resolution. Only if I drive very slow (about 30 km/h) tomtom shows my position correct.
I tried all versions. Repack 3 qvga, qvga... 7.450,.. 7.541...but each version came up with the same result.
Is there a possibility to stop this annoying lag ? Or do I have to cope with it. Did anyone else notice this , also?
With TT 6 (6.032) this problem never appeared.

If you're using a bluetooth reciever it sounds like it hasn't got many channels. More channels better reception - more accurate.
If the phone has gps built in then check the position of the phone in the car. It needs a clear signal to work properly. under the windscreen is best, not on the seat beside you.
Otherwise it sounds like memory problem. Other apps using ram and limiting how much the gps program can use. though most of the time when I had that problem it just kept jumping all over the place.

You have to slow down, you're driving too fast
You can also try turning off points of interest and any info you don't need. Even street names can make it laggy.

uran235 said:
Hi there,
i am running tt7 on my Asus P535 with WM 6.
I have this problem:
TomTom is always about 200 meters behind my actual position. I think this is so because of an not well resolution. Only if I drive very slow (about 30 km/h) tomtom shows my position correct.
I tried all versions. Repack 3 qvga, qvga... 7.450,.. 7.541...but each version came up with the same result.
Is there a possibility to stop this annoying lag ? Or do I have to cope with it. Did anyone else notice this , also?
With TT 6 (6.032) this problem never appeared.
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I don't think it's Tomtom's versions problem... it's the GPS signals likely
If you don't get a good signals or number of Sats yo will be far from your real position.
Consider if there are alot of obstacles which would cause or interfere with the signals:
- Tall buidlings, trees, objects
- under ground car park, buidling
- Metals (depends)
- Raining and not clear sky
- Other devices or in a high EM
- GPS chips got faulty
- Firmware or memory that store calculate functions got problem
- Not enough numbers of Sats
- ...

Hi again,
I don't think it is an GPS Problem.
I have an built-in- GPS- Receiver and I get between 6-11 Satellites.
Another user (he has the Diamond) had this problem, also. But he took the wrong tt7- Version. After using the right one everything was okay.
But it also might be the processor of my P535 ? Might that also be possible?
oh, I got about 18- 20 MB of RAM free

uran235 said:
Hi again,
I don't think it is an GPS Problem.
I have an built-in- GPS- Receiver and I get between 6-11 Satellites.
Another user (he has the Diamond) had this problem, also. But he took the wrong tt7- Version. After using the right one everything was okay.
But it also might be the processor of my P535 ? Might that also be possible?
oh, I got about 18- 20 MB of RAM free
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Have you tried using iGo or other GPS apps and experienced similar lag ?

Even on my old Wizard TomTom7 runs without problems.
Have you tried it in another car, or outside your car? Maybe your front window has a special alloy to prevent sun emission. Know this problem of some of my friends, they have had this problem (Mostly on new VW,Audi,BMW i know this problem, maybe other cras have something similar).

Hello,
I tried many other GPS-Systems. Navigon, IGO, MIO,Garmin, tt 6. But this 100-200 m lag appears only with tt 7. And this was all in the same car.
I have no ideas anymore what this might cause this.
I know, my P 535 is not the latest one but it still has got a 520MHz Intel Xscale..
It is not the map, also. I tried 3 different tt 7 maps already..

uran235 said:
Hello,
I tried many other GPS-Systems. Navigon, IGO, MIO,Garmin, tt 6. But this 100-200 m lag appears only with tt 7. And this was all in the same car.
I have no ideas anymore what this might cause this.
I know, my P 535 is not the latest one but it still has got a 520MHz Intel Xscale..
It is not the map, also. I tried 3 different tt 7 maps already..
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I dont think changing car will make any difference . I used tt7 on p535 without any problem at all. but i like igo or garmin more

Do you have other GPS software like CheckPoint 3.0 ? Because Checkpoint failed to run correctly with my TomTom7 and Cruise.

Hello
I have the same problem with my nex Tomtom V7. i've got a Samsung Omnia
First I try it in walk, and my position is not correct
I try many times in a car and my position is not as exact than Tomtom V6

Well, weirred.
Maybe it is the ROM then.
I am still using WM 6 [CE OS 5.2.1236 (Build 17741.0.2.1) and not "WM6.1_20748.1.4.0" ROM.
Another user just jold me that with his PPC (ASUS 636N) the same error occured.

uran235 said:
Well, weirred.
Maybe it is the ROM then.
I am still using WM 6 [CE OS 5.2.1236 (Build 17741.0.2.1) and not "WM6.1_20748.1.4.0" ROM.
Another user just jold me that with his PPC (ASUS 636N) the same error occured.
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As was mentioned above by snachez, I believe it's the amount of poi's you have showing on the screen while driving. I had the same problem with about 20 poi's showing. When I turned it down to about 4 poi's, the problem went away, and now it's SMOOTH as silk.
Hope this helps!

Sorry to chip in here. Seems like you all here uses GPS. I just bought a new PDA. MWg Zinc II with built in GPS. As I am living in Singapore, I would like to know is it possible to obtain igo Singapore map for free? GPS maps are very expensive and I would like to know where can I download it and use it as a full version without paying.

GPS application for Android?

Ok, I am still waiting for HTC desire to come to my door. At the moment I am just wondering what GPS application available for Android (I mean like Garmin or Tomtom thing??) As I understand both Garmin and Tomtom are still unavailable. I know the phone should come with Google map? As I understand it google map require internet connection not just GPS? the thing is I dont have internet connection with my phone plan. I only use wifi or hotspot. So I need GPS application that can work just by using the built-in GPS? Besides the internet package here downunder in Aussie is pretty limited...too low capacity. I wish they have unlimited connection.

best ones are Copilot and Navigon

JaykaySLO said:
best ones are Copilot and Navigon
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Navigon looks cool, but is the android version available yet? I have been to their site but only have for iphone?? Dont know how much is it including Australian Map??

kuailan said:
Navigon looks cool, but is the android version available yet? I have been to their site but only have for iphone?? Dont know how much is it including Australian Map??
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Navigon is available in the market, as is CoPilot and a few others. I prefer CoPilot of those two but am really waiting for Sygic's Aura, which looks awesome.

In China, KLD（凯立德） and Gaode（高德） have published NAV software based on android OS, and it run smoothly.

Aura is very nice indeed, but it wont be available soon.
I asked this to Sygic and they said that iPhone version will be available FIRST.
Then Android ...
Now you can wait for a year or two
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Navigon is available in the market, as is CoPilot and a few others. I prefer CoPilot of those two but am really waiting for Sygic's Aura, which looks awesome.
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Navigon
The trial version works great.
Once activated with a bought key it stops working.
Wierd.

I have CoPilot and Sygic on my Desire and both work fine.
I was not so impressed with Navigon.
I have iGO on my diamond and it beats all three of them qua quality, but must say Aura looks good.

i've just finished to install Igo Amigo for my Desire, and is working so good . For Europe (for me, I've been in many countries) is the best...for America, i think another one like tomtom you should choose.

If anyone is planning on using the hacked-to-work-outside-US Google navigation ("Maps brut"), I wouldn't bother. I've used it and decided it was no replacement for a proper paid GPS application. Turn by turn voice cues are erratic and often late or not-present, and for some reason the next road to be taken is always "unknown". I missed turns twice because of the lack of cues.
I used Google navigation for a 2 1/2 hour journey, in that time the phone went from 2/3 battery to severe battery warnings and red indicator. This was with an old, non-official car charger plugged in! I strongly suspect that the frequency of the screen update and the use of 3G are probably culprits, not to mention the frequent re-routing as I missed turns.
My old WinMo phone used to run CoPilot 7 and would do substantially better with no in-car charging.
What is the battery life like with the £20 CoPilot? Is a proper in-car charger a must for journeys > 3h?

I had some issues on copilot 7 WM with mapping. The maps were quite old and sometimes the routing was very odd. On test routes where I knew where I was going it would sometimes take me off in what I knew to be a longer way round by far. I'm sure there will be much newer maps on version 8.
The Navigon I find is very good but only annoying thing I find is landscape view. Between the bars on the software and the taskbar on the handset, the map only uses about half the available screen which is disappointing.
If anyone knows if it is possible to view more fullscreen please correct me.

Can anyone recommend Android nav software for cycling?
CoPilot appears to have a cycling option, Navigon not.

fergusstrachan said:
Can anyone recommend Android nav software for cycling?
CoPilot appears to have a cycling option, Navigon not.
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I'm not a cyclist, but shouldn't ANY of them do as long as you stick to the roads? I don't know of any that have off-road capability...

Yeah, I COULD follow the roads they suggest, but I don't fancy cycling on motorways/highways.
Don't want off-road, just want small quieter roads...

fergusstrachan said:
Yeah, I COULD follow the roads they suggest, but I don't fancy cycling on motorways/highways.
Don't want off-road, just want small quieter roads...
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I'm pretty sure you can tell CoPilot to ignore certain roads...

Co-pilot has a walking and a cycling mode. Haven't tried them out yet though.

Tom Tom release?
TomTom 6 om my Diamond was phenomenal, and was by far the most customisable for me. (downloading voices, maps, POI, speed cams etc). I know that TomTom are releasing a ver for Android soon, but does anyone know what the current developments are? Just waiting on my DESIRE now, and am ready to go!! If not anytime soon, I might have to settle with CoPilot, as it has Australia Maps, and South Africa maps (worldcup). How good is CoPilot is though Australia? Anyone know? And do I need an Internet connection to run it?

the best I tried so far and worked brilliantly even in Cyprus is sygic 10 mobile maps!

Navigon gets my vote.
Clear maps, works smooth.

I really like Navigon, look cool...except dont think there is NO map for Australia? Can anyone suggest anything that has Australian map?? I also want something that does not need internet connection?? (Google map is free but need internet) just plain GPS.