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Just purchased a brand new Mate 9 from Best Buy in the USA. First Huawei device.
Held the Mate 9, Galaxy 8 and Galaxy 8+ in my hands and didn't like the feel of the Galaxy 8 handsets.
Before I even switch it on, I wanted to ask the regulars here what they suggest are the first things to do beforehand as I want to root it and install TWRP and Magisk.
After reading in the Mate 9 forum there are different posts about rooting, patching and other things (e.g. people bricking their device) in regards to tweaking this device, so I wanted to know for sure what the correct procedure is to root, install TWRP and Magisk.
I have watched the two videos shown here for tips so anything else that is helpful would be appreciated.
I would honestly not root for a while so that you can get a proper feel of the device as it was meant to be experienced. Just my 2 cents.
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Governa said:
I would honestly not root for a while so that you can get a proper feel of the device as it was meant to be experienced. Just my 2 cents.
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Gotta agree with this. I've had mine for almost two months and it's so good I've never felt the need to root. But I'd say do lots of reading around first and get a feel for the stock is in the mean time.
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Thank you for the suggestions. I don't want to set up the phone and then find I have to do a factory-reset when I can get it all done in one go.
I really hate all the ads (using AdAway on current Nexus 6) and like the ability to restrict apps usage e.g. stop location or mobile identification, so use LBE, thus the reason wanting to root and install TWRP. Having image backups has been amazingly helpful over the years.
and now that Magisk is doing an amazing job, I can have all the rooted tweaks and still have Android Pay working.
Root - yes
Adaway and other system tweaks - yes (with extra experience - to get system read/write)
Magisk - no
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Root - yes
Adaway and other system tweaks - yes (with extra experience - to get system read/write)
Magisk - no
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Are you meaning I can have AdAway or some other ad blocking without needing root or do I need root for any successful blocking of ads...?
One other reason for rooting is Titanium Backup...my go-to app for keeping older copies of apps so I can revert to them when needed.
IconBoy said:
Are you meaning I can have AdAway or some other ad blocking without needing root or do I need root for any successful blocking of ads...?
One other reason for rooting is Titanium Backup...my go-to app for keeping older copies of apps so I can revert to them when needed.
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No.
I told that if you want to customize system (Some functions in TB and Adaway do it), so you must have root and additionally turn dm-verity off.
Just root = simple functional.
P.s. One of Adaway can work without root
I have an ad blocker and I'm not rooted.
Search xda for netpatch firewall. Working for me here.
Only ads it doesn't block for me is YouTube but I can live with that
Bit late to the conversation but I have to say I've rooted every phone I've had except this one, and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm in favour of leaving this phone as it is.
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I don't think Magisk works on the Mate 9.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/install-magisk-huawei-mate-9-t3540310
With all these newer options of getting root e.g. systemless root, is it possible to do this on the HM9?
I'm new to Huawei and would like the OTA updates.
IconBoy said:
With all these newer options of getting root e.g. systemless root, is it possible to do this on the HM9?
I'm new to Huawei and would like the OTA updates.
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Systemless root works fine but you have to flash the stock recovery each time you want to OTA.
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Thanks very much for the update.
Am I understanding this correctly, that systemless root is better than the SuperSU and other old-school/typical root options...?
Also, if I go with systemless root, then Android Pay and other banking apps (here's looking at you Barclays!) won't work because they would need Magisk to get them working...? (Weighing up my options here about whether I root or not as I really like the convenience of Android Pay and using banking apps but truly dislike the ads and how apps connect to internet when not needed to. Also, some of the users here have said they're enjoying not being rooted. Sigh...first-world problems).
IconBoy said:
Thanks very much for the update.
Am I understanding this correctly, that systemless root is better than the SuperSU and other old-school/typical root options...?
Also, if I go with systemless root, then Android Pay and other banking apps (here's looking at you Barclays!) won't work because they would need Magisk to get them working...? (Weighing up my options here about whether I root or not as I really like the convenience of Android Pay and using banking apps but truly dislike the ads and how apps connect to internet when not needed to. Also, some of the users here have said they're enjoying not being rooted. Sigh...first-world problems).
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Yeah, if you root you won't be able to use Android Pay or anything that calls SafetyNet. Actually, it won't work either if you unlock bootloader.
I'll chime in here too
I've rooted and modded every phone I have had in my life, (more than 20 years) and this is the first phone I have had NO DESIRE at all to root..
Like the others here have said, this phone is fantastic stock, and I cant see ever wanting to root it
Another one to add. This is the first android phone i have no desire to root. Love it as it is. Really great.
are we all getting old that's why we don't wanna root anymore for cheats/sixaxis, etc...? this is also my first android phone (mate 9 pro) that i didn't root.
well, yeah, we are all getting old, but I dont think thats why we dont want to root this thing; I think that it already does most of the things as stock that we usually root a phone to get..
Mate 9 pro here too, and its truly an awesum phone...too bad its not "officially" sold in the USA, as it would be super popular..
Tuffcheez said:
Bit late to the conversation but I have to say I've rooted every phone I've had except this one, and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm in favour of leaving this phone as it is.
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Same here and Happy....
+ root M9 is really challenging depending on your firmware
Hi all,
I'm on a Sprint S8 running PartCyborgRom. More and more apps that I use are no longer usable, and I'm guessing because my phone doesn't pass SafetyNet.
I use a lot of root apps and Xposed modules to customize the phone and disable bloat.
Have any of you just bit the bullet and upgraded to an Oreo ROM without Root? What are your workarounds for not having Root? I've used BK Disabler before. Are there other Knox apps to do other Root-like functions?
I'm definitely thinking about jumping to a different phone, but I think my only option for a fully rootable phone on Sprint is getting a Pixel 3 right from Google...
Without root and Titanium Backup, what are you using to backup and restore app data?
ANY thoughts on the dilemma would be great.
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Hi all,
I'm on a Sprint S8 running PartCyborgRom. More and more apps that I use are no longer usable, and I'm guessing because my phone doesn't pass SafetyNet.
I use a lot of root apps and Xposed modules to customize the phone and disable bloat.
Have any of you just bit the bullet and upgraded to an Oreo ROM without Root? What are your workarounds for not having Root? I've used BK Disabler before. Are there other Knox apps to do other Root-like functions?
I'm definitely thinking about jumping to a different phone, but I think my only option for a fully rootable phone on Sprint is getting a Pixel 3 right from Google...
Without root and Titanium Backup, what are you using to backup and restore app data?
ANY thoughts on the dilemma would be great.
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Logic would suggest to weigh the options. Which do you need more,The apps that wont work,Or root.
If you need the said app update. If you need root more stay rooted Til a better device comes along
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Hi all,
I use a lot of root apps and Xposed modules to customize the phone and disable bloat.
ANY thoughts on the dilemma would be great.
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I use Adhell 3 to disable bloat and block ads. Apart from that, I also have GoodLock and various other customization apps from the Galaxy Store. I don't really feel the need for root anymore.
Used to use a Oneplus 2 before this. Used several ROMs, even developed for the phone. Felt the need to root because Oxygen OS at that point didn't offer much.
But with Touchwiz, I already have all the features I need.
I have been rooting all my Android phones since old Samsung s2.
But for s8, i have been using for 1.5 years without rooting. There are a lot of alternative apps around for non root s8.
The upside is able to use apps that pass safety net etc.
The only downside is unable to use twrp backup. But since its not root, its quite safe and stable. Will not get bootloop and unable to boot into phone etc.
I may flash to BQL1 to trial-run without root.
Considered jumping to a Pixel 3, but as far as hardware goes, it looks a bit inferior to the S8.
Hello All,
Maybe i have missed this same question somewhere in the thousands of post and search just give random threads of rooting in general. My question out to all the TMO variant users that have rooted their 6T. I have not rooted any phone since the Galaxy note 5 as I just fell out of the rooting as most apps these days did for the most part everything I need. Some things cant but i lived without. Anyway.. To all those 6T TMO users and rooted. What and why did you root your 6T? Elaborate in like apps you used that needs root. Maybe if I get enough people listing useful items that need root and cant be done with an unrooted 6T. I may jump back into rooting again.
Thanks in advance..
O. if there is another thread similiar to this one regarding the TMO 6T. Please link it here.
My List of Reasons:
DriftorX said:
Hello All,
Maybe i have missed this same question somewhere in the thousands of post and search just give random threads of rooting in general. My question out to all the TMO variant users that have rooted their 6T. I have not rooted any phone since the Galaxy note 5 as I just fell out of the rooting as most apps these days did for the most part everything I need. Some things cant but i lived without. Anyway.. To all those 6T TMO users and rooted. What and why did you root your 6T? Elaborate in like apps you used that needs root. Maybe if I get enough people listing useful items that need root and cant be done with an unrooted 6T. I may jump back into rooting again.
Thanks in advance..
O. if there is another thread similiar to this one regarding the TMO 6T. Please link it here.
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I picked up my 6t on the 10th and i am currently waiting for my unlock token to unlock my bootloader, the reasons why i would take the time to root are as follow.
(P.S. Going to make this as neat as possible for those who just want a list of reasons instead of rambling)
Reasons:
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* Magisk Modules
* Custom ROMs or/and Kernels
* TWRP Backups
* Kernel Auditor Edits (Battery Life or More Performance)
* Edit System files for what you need (Customization)
* Get the most out of what your phone can do.
* Audio Mods (Viper or Dolby Atmos)
* Adaway (I've never really seen in action but i think it is for Chrome or internet apps)
* Youtube Vanced (Non-Rooted users have this as well but with rooted users there are updates to the app right when they come out)
When you root your device you truly can do what you want, I use to own a V20 (LG) and had no what the **** root was but i came across it since my phone at the time was and lowkey is still trash but the point i am making is i was tired of waiting on LG to keep my phone up-to-date since it had a multitude of issues from hardware issues (Bootloops, Overheating, etc) to weak software (Terrible UI, Trash Updates, etc). Rooting helps me maintain my experience whenever or however i see fit, i don't have to rely on Oneplus (Although updates are fast) or even my Carrier T-Mobile, I control what happens and what exactly runs on my phone, not blindly allowing or even accepting that Oneplus or T-Mobile should know what is best for my phone; I truly set my own experience.
Apps:
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* Titanium Backup (Backup important app data to then import later from a data wipe or something.)
* Adaway (Takes care of ads on the Internet but correct me if i am wrong.)
* Youtube Vanced (Youtube Red features, except downloading videos.)
* Kernel Auditor (Control the CPU and GPU and much more, use it to underclock or overclock your phone to save battery or increase performance.)
* Tasker (Don't know much about this one but you can set useful tasks to launch or run to suit your needs.)
* Flashify (On the go recovery or kernel backups, use it to flash a custom recovery (Very ****ing useful if you accidentally lost TWRP) or even a boot image i believe.)
* Titanium Backup or some other system app uninstaller (Uninstall bloatware that you want off your phone.)
* Gravity Box (Xposed) (Don't know if it matters on Android Pie but it is used to add features that you want to add.)
* Magisk Modules (Get modules that you need or want on your phone that suit your needs or wants.)
Sure there are much more but this is all i got for you man, others will reply to you with probably more suited reasons but i hope i gave you a better idea on why it's good to have root. Like i always say, i'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Anyway, take care dude.
Whhooooaaa. Hold your horses. Lol. The LG V20 rooted is a beast. Didn't even trade mine in for the promotion. The poster above pretty much covered the basics of why I will be rooting (forgot about the dual sim capability on T-Mo variant once converted to the international). Just got my unlock bin today (got this baby on Black Friday) so I'm ready to rock. Oh yeah, battery life. Saw a screenshot of someone had like 38 hours since last charge.
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Viper4android, titanium back up
This is the first device I have rooted in years, and I don't see any advantage to doing so. However, I did unlock the bootloader so I could flash the international firmware, then had to root to use Magisk hide so I could use Android Pay. Outside of flashing the firmware, I do not see any advantage to rooting.
I have the t mobile version as well and i wont go without root. I use it to copy new fonts, ringtones i create, and set as any sound. I change boot animations, every few days. I test other software within a rooted system. Just depends on your needs. Oh and the biggest advantages is viper. I use it and the op6 dual speaker mod. Not the one for the 6t. With root i was able to add a proper always on, the aosp version, and digital well-being.. plus its nothing to root. Or unroot. Just tested the 9.06 hydrogen os build and bc of root was able to copy stuff back to my standard oxygen os.
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I have the t mobile version as well and i wont go without root. I use it to copy new fonts, ringtones i create, and set as any sound. I change boot animations, every few days. I test other software within a rooted system. Just depends on your needs. Oh and the biggest advantages is viper. I use it and the op6 dual speaker mod. Not the one for the 6t. With root i was able to add a proper always on, the aosp version, and digital well-being.. plus its nothing to root. Or unroot. Just tested the 9.06 hydrogen os build and bc of root was able to copy stuff back to my standard oxygen os.
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For the speaker mod, do you have to install Viper for it to work?
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For the speaker mod, do you have to install Viper for it to work?
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Nope. I got my own i tweaked a bit.. ill share soon
Substratum is working with swift black. Another reason to root. I have to have a blacked out theme.
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well, I've rooted dozens of phones in my life, but my last 2, the Note 8, and this one, I havent found any real need to root; sure I would like Viper, and yes, I want to use Subs to theme, but thats it..
This phone is fast and smooth as any phone ever, with the stock rom, and not enough bloat or anything like that to make me root to get rid of; also, the "custom" roms that are out there are really nothing more than repacks of older setups, and, I dont see anything in any of them that are "must have's" for me. And, there are a few custom kernels as well, but, here again, I doubt they make the phone run any faster/smoother/better than it does right now..
I got my bootloader token weeks ago, but, still havent even bothered to unlock the bootloader yet, as I see no compelling reason to have my entire setup wiped and start again from scratch..
I guess if you haven't rooted much in the past, it remains a novelty to want to do it, but for those of us who have used mobile phones for decades now, this one is definitely awe sum, whether you root it or not, and, I am in no hurry what so ever to root it..
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well, I've rooted dozens of phones in my life, but my last 2, the Note 8, and this one, I havent found any real need to root; sure I would like Viper, and yes, I want to use Subs to theme, but thats it..
This phone is fast and smooth as any phone ever, with the stock rom, and not enough bloat or anything like that to make me root to get rid of; also, the "custom" roms that are out there are really nothing more than repacks of older setups, and, I dont see anything in any of them that are "must have's" for me. And, there are a few custom kernels as well, but, here again, I doubt they make the phone run any faster/smoother/better than it does right now..
I got my bootloader token weeks ago, but, still havent even bothered to unlock the bootloader yet, as I see no compelling reason to have my entire setup wiped and start again from scratch..
I guess if you haven't rooted much in the past, it remains a novelty to want to do it, but for those of us who have used mobile phones for decades now, this one is definitely awe sum, whether you root it or not, and, I am in no hurry what so ever to root it..
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I'm not rooted yet, but awaiting my bootloader unlock token.
I love this phone and it's 95% sufficient without root. The only reason I want to root is so I can install AdAway. I have been using Blockada however it isn't working as smoothly as AdAway did on my Nexus 5. I have intermittent network issues with Blockada which aren't caused by the block lists that I have - I toggle it off and on again it will work fine. So root + AdAway it is for me.
So I just got my op6t and I'm conflicted if I should root. I'm under a 2year payment plan (honestly never stopped me in the past). But I have to ask is it worth it on the 6t?
Hi!
Actually there are a lot of things you can do without root your phone, and some others having rooted. Know also that having the MSM Download Tool available here in the forum you can return to fully unrooted/stock your phone at any moment, even if you render it to a non bootable/loopboot status.
Also have in mind that the "worst" part of being rooted is the lose of Widevine L1, so you won't be able to watch HD content in your device using Netflix. This also seems to apply to some banking apps that looks not working detecting rooted devices.
And for the custom roms... well, there are some great around here, but by now no one actually can use the fingerprint scanner to unlock your phone.
I rooted mine when was new released, was the first thing I did. Then I returned to stock a few days later. Didn't make any sense to me be in the root side...
Thank you that helped a lot. I will definitely have to think about root and weigh the pros and cons
No one will know if u root or not. That's the joy of msm. And if u use libcrypto disabler u can still watch in hd.
I would definitely root. Won't hurt.
I wouldn't install a custom rom though. Very disappointing on this device.
I have tried every rom. And Built a few for this device. Tresk mod (Google it, not on xda) it is the best rom. And works farrrr better than oxygen os with this hardware.. there isn't absolutely anything disappointing with it.
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No one will know if u root or not. That's the joy of msm. And if u use libcrypto disabler u can still watch in hd.
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Hello!
Didn't know about that libcrypto disabler, but I googled and found this in the developer thread:
"Please note that a consequence of using this module is that Widevine DRM will fall back to using L3 instead of L1. This means that Netflix will play all content in SD quality, regardless of your subscription type. Of course, without this module, you won't be able to play anything on a rooted device, so beggars can't be choosers."
Actually that's what happens with the OnePlus 6T, once unlocking the bootloader leads the Widevine DRM to L3, so Netflix only plays SD content.
Just get root with Magisk and disable (hide) any app that disallows root. One of the most important aspects (at least for me) of being root is Titanium Backup and AdAway.
What I would like to know is when the bootloader is unlocked, is the device fully decrypted? Or is the encryption still fully functioning even when bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
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What I would like to know is when the bootloader is unlocked, is the device fully decrypted? Or is the encryption still fully functioning even when bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
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Still encrypted, u don't want it decrypted.. security is broken if u do..and has zero benefits like on older phones
I stopped rooting years ago...about android 4.3
Prior to that, even going back to my "pda-phone" days, I use to flash about anything that would come along. My first droid was the Dell Streak 5, then the Galaxy Note 1. Then came droid 4.3 and the Mate 2, which was good and for me, didn't need to be rooted. Now, after work, I rarely pick up the phone unless someone calls me. It's a work "tool" and I just don't bother. Other than Nova Launcher, I just don't screw with them any more.
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Hi!
Actually there are a lot of things you can do without root your phone, and some others having rooted. Know also that having the MSM Download Tool available here in the forum you can return to fully unrooted/stock your phone at any moment, even if you render it to a non bootable/loopboot status.
Also have in mind that the "worst" part of being rooted is the lose of Widevine L1, so you won't be able to watch HD content in your device using Netflix. This also seems to apply to some banking apps that looks not working detecting rooted devices.
And for the custom roms... well, there are some great around here, but by now no one actually can use the fingerprint scanner to unlock your phone.
I rooted mine when was new released, was the first thing I did. Then I returned to stock a few days later. Didn't make any sense to me be in the root side...
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Wrong, you can use libcrypto disabler to watch HD videos in Netflix. And custom roms do now have working fingerprints. You can hide root from banking apps since Magisk is systemless.
ebproject said:
Wrong, you can use libcrypto disabler to watch HD videos in Netflix. And custom roms do now have working fingerprints. You can hide root from banking apps since Magisk is systemless.
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Read this about libcrypto disabler from the developer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-liboemcrypto-disabler-drm-t3794393
Notice the last paragraph before the change log.
And for the custom roms having working fingerprint sensor, could you recommend any? I'll like to test some of them.
TY!
ducted said:
Read this about libcrypto disabler from the developer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-liboemcrypto-disabler-drm-t3794393
Notice the last paragraph before the change log.
And for the custom roms having working fingerprint sensor, could you recommend any? I'll like to test some of them.
TY!
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Tresk mod (not on xda) and pixel experience work flawlessly..better than oos
Can we install and use dolby without rooting our phones? if we can plz share something...
Thanks.
Last time I rooted was the Note 4. Didn't care to until Google began handicapping Android more and more. The big one for me is killing call recording. Ironically, Google has been working more to copy iOS, an OS which supports call recording. So they're not copying that part of it.
ducted said:
Read this about libcrypto disabler from the developer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-liboemcrypto-disabler-drm-t3794393
Notice the last paragraph before the change log.
And for the custom roms having working fingerprint sensor, could you recommend any? I'll like to test some of them.
TY!
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Try Skydragon, the battery life is incredible. Best I've ever seen.
I recently reverted back to stock software. As nice as rooting can be, it gets very easy to be addicted to flashing software constantly, and oxygen OS is really the best Android experience these days. My only complaint is the occasional aggressive hibernation in their kernel configuration. But the overall experience is great, and unless you're getting pretty technical on your customizations, stock international software can't be beat!
So if I just convert from T-Mobile to international can I still have hd Netflix?
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So if I just convert from T-Mobile to international can I still have hd Netflix?
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If your bootloader is unlocked, no. Just unlocking the bootloader leads Widevine from L1 (HD content) to L3 (SD content). (This happens only while your bootloader is unlocked, relocking it will raise Widevine to L1 again.)
I don't know if you are using the MSM Tool to convert your phone or if is some sort of rom mix flashed via TWRP, but using MSM tool flashes to stock and then relocks the bootloader, so you will be able to play HD content in Netflix.
You can use any tool like "DevCheck Hardware and System Info" from @flar2 available at the Play Store to check your Widevine level amongst other useful device info.
Hello!
I want to use my old Galaxy SII for banking apps or apps in general that require a non modded phone, as they often make problems on my rooted Galaxy S7.
Can you please give me a hint what ROM I should install that
1. is the most recent one in terms of security updates / maybe also android version as maybe some apps won't work anymore with old kitkat android
2. passes all security checks, so either way it is official or modded but has working magisk hide function etc
Thank you very much!!
I kinda doubt you'll get banking apps working on the S2 with any ROM as:
1. Stock Jelly Bean is too old (API level no longer supported)
2. Custom ROMs fail safety net.
Your only remote chance is with LineageOS 16.0 and Magisk:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/development-derivatives/pie-i9100-t3850588
And this is assuming that you have the i9100 or one of the sub-variants. You'll be even more out of luck with anything else...
Thank you very much, then I'll go for Lineage OS. Yes, I have the I9100 model.
How did you get on with this? Were you able to get your banking app to work?
chimerical26 said:
How did you get on with this? Were you able to get your banking app to work?
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You need to flash lineageos from post above. Than flash magisk, install magisk apk, hide magisk. Now u can use banking apps.
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How did you get on with this? Were you able to get your banking app to work?
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Sorry for late answer. Yes it worked, no additional google apps needed. Just Lineage + Magisk. All different kind of banking apps work.
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Sorry for late answer. Yes it worked, no additional google apps needed. Just Lineage + Magisk. All different kind of banking apps work.
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How does LOS 16 run on this phone? It's pretty beefy all things considered. Is it possible to use a custom partition map to get rid of that god awful 10GB "internal sd card"