4 or 4a - Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers

Hey, time to upgrade. Love the specs on the 4, found one kinda cheap, only 64gb, but its awful quiet in here...
Why can't I flash 4a ROMs on this bad boy and hope nothing explodes, couldn't I just go back to stock right?
Which one do I get??

I purchased my Pixel 4XL mint condition used with all original accessories, box, charger..etc . for $240 USD about two months ago. I was able to find the deal fairly quickly online after searching around a bit.. i suggest maybe looking at the specs of both devices and maybe make your decision or help you to make your decision... Really just depends on you and what you want and what's more important to you. Lots of custom roms or are you after specs? That's how I see it anyway..
About installing Pixel 4a roms on a 4, the 4a does not have the same CPU or screen as the Pixel 4 & 4XL have. So that's a no on flashing 4a roms on the 4. The 4 and 4 xl are VERY similar with same CPU but even then, if someone wanted to flash a rom made for Pixel 4 on a Pixel 4XL modifications would still have to be made to the rom... There are a few roms that are compiled for the 4a, 4, and 4XL that are not on here. They are on telegram in the Pixel 4a,4,4xl group and there are also a few others around other places. If roms is your thing I'd say grab the 4a. You can't really go wrong either way really. Good luck.

To add to what I've posted pervious if you are a rom junkie and love changing roms but you yourself don't compile them the 4a would probably be the best option because at this time it has more roms available than the 4. I love my 4XL and I'm happy with it though! Both are excellent devices, in my opinion the best!!

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Looking to buy OP 2; couple questions

Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 320 USD and therefore OnePlus 2 has really caught my eye. I've found a deal for 300 USD and I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. The OnePlus 2 sports Snapdragon 810. I haven't heard much about it, but isn't SD 810 infamous for its issues with overheating? Is overheating an issue with OnePlus 2? Can it be completely resolved by flashing a different ROM/Kernel?
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 2 a viable choice, despite the fact that almost 2 years passed from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me?
Thanks in advance.
Tip #1 : Dont buy it !!!
Techgod said:
Tip #1 : Dont buy it !!!
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Care to elaborate?
Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 320 USD and therefore OnePlus 2 has really caught my eye. I've found a deal for 300 USD and I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. The OnePlus 2 sports Snapdragon 810. I haven't heard much about it, but isn't SD 810 infamous for its issues with overheating? Is overheating an issue with OnePlus 2? Can it be completely resolved by flashing a different ROM/Kernel?
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 2 a viable choice, despite the fact that almost 2 years passed from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me?
Thanks in advance.
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1. Snapdragon 810: daily usage is good (I'm not a gamer at all): Messenger, Fenix (Twitter Client), WhatsApp, Facebook through Chrome Dev: everything is good. Yes, just good. Not awesome.
2. Long period of time ? Hell no. Look at OxygenOS update(s) for example. Well. we still don't have 7.x as OnePlus 3 / 3T already have 7.1.x. ROM support. Maybe custom ones yeah, but I think that's all.
Also, Grarak, which is one of the maintainer of LineageOS for the OnePlus 2, seems to stop build ROMs, as announced here. This might be an issue in future, even if there is some developers on this phone.
3. Satisfied ? Not at all. I bought this phone because I had an invite back in time there were still some, and I though hype would be the same as OnePlus One. But very disappointed with phone.
Just go for 3T, or if you have time, wait for OnePlus 4 | 5 , rumors say OnePlus might announced it soon.
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1. Snapdragon 810: daily usage is good (I'm not a gamer at all): Messenger, Fenix (Twitter Client), WhatsApp, Facebook through Chrome Dev: everything is good. Yes, just good. Not awesome.
2. Long period of time ? Hell no. Look at OxygenOS update(s) for example. Well. we still don't have 7.x as OnePlus 3 / 3T already have 7.1.x. ROM support ? Maybe custom ones yeah, but I think that's all.
Also, Grarak, which is one of the maintainer of LineageOS for the OnePlus 2, seems to stop build ROMs, as announced here. This might be an issue in future, even if there is some developers on this phone.
3. Satisfied ? Not at. I bought this phone because I had an invite back in time there were still some, and I though hype would be the same as OnePlus One. But very disappointed with phone.
Just go for 3T, or if you have time, wait for OnePlus 4 | 5 , rumors say OnePlus might announced it soon.
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Thank you very much for the detailed answer.
I'd like to look back on some questions:
2. Well, I was probably planning to use custom ROMs exclusively, I'll see about that. I didn't expect much from OygenOS to be honest. The thing about Garak seems worrying though.
3. I'd really like to go for the 3T, but I'm restricted by my budget which is around 330 USD. Do you have a better phone to propose?
Fobos531 said:
Thank you very much for the detailed answer.
I'd like to look back on some questions:
2. Well, I was probably planning to use custom ROMs exclusively, I'll see about that. I didn't expect much from OygenOS to be honest. The thing about Garak seems worrying though.
3. I'd really like to for the 3T, but I'm restricted by my budget which is around 330 USD. Do you have a better phone to propose?
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You could search for the LG G4 for example, which as a Snapdragon 808, 3GB of RAM, Sdcard and QHD Screen, around 325-350$. Be sure, if you buy it, to check for an unlocked one (no locked bootloader for example).
If you search, you could be able to find a OnePlus 3 (just 3, not 3T), under 350$.
casual_kikoo said:
You could search for the LG G4 for example, which as a Snapdragon 808, 3GB of RAM, Sdcard and QHD Screen, around 325-350$. Be sure, if you buy it, to check for an unlocked one (no locked bootloader for example).
If you search, you could be able to find a OnePlus 3 (just 3, not 3T), under 350$.
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While G4 is certainly an interesting choice, I'm hesitant when going for it since I'm worried of all the bootloop issues that were reported to occur. I also think that I could use a little bumped-up specs.
Thank you for reminding me of OnePlus 3. Since there are small differences between 3 and 3T, I'll try and find a deal under 350$. If you have any online shops to propose, please do so.
Fobos531 said:
While G4 is certainly an interesting choice, I'm hesitant when going for it since I'm worried of all the bootloop issues that were reported to occur. I also think that I could use a little bumped-up specs.
Thank you for reminding me of OnePlus 3. Since there are small differences between 3 and 3T, I'll try and find a deal under 350$. If you have any online shops to propose, please do so.
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You could have a look at Swappa which is a platform where users sell their used mobile. There is "partnership" with XDA, so this site can be trust.
casual_kikoo said:
You could have a look at Swappa which is a platform where users sell their used mobile. There is "partnership" with XDA, so this site can be trust.
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Sadly there are no entries for my market (Europe). However, browsing Ebay, I found a listing claiming they have a new OP 3T 64 GB at $352 "in perfect condition". The seller states: "Bought as Anniversary present. To be honest it's a lovely phone if you like Android But I wanted an iPhone. My wife thought I'd like this instead. Used for 2 hrs around the house and that's all. "
How legit do you think this is?
Oh yess man! I've been using the device for quite awhile​ now and yes I won't recommend it to u now. It's good but not awesome, just good! Moreover, the software updates are kind of on a standstill now however Custom roms are abundant.
At this point of time, within your budget, I would rather recommend you to go with a device with a sd625! Excellent processor with an exceptional battery management, no heating no matter what you throw at it! Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, Lenovo P2 or the upcoming Moto G5 plus ( supposedly to come with Dual Pixel tech same as in Samsung S7) are a few to mention. Moreover, Xiaomi Mi 5 (comes with SD820) is a crazy good phone to consider if u can get your hands on one! Highly recommended!!
amitgudwill said:
Oh yess man! I've been using the device for quite awhile​ now and yes I won't recommend it to u now. It's good but not awesome, just good! Moreover, the software updates are kind of on a standstill now however Custom roms are abundant.
At this point of time, within your budget, I would rather recommend you to go with a device with a sd625! Excellent processor with an exceptional battery management, no heating no matter what you throw at it! Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, Lenovo P2 or the upcoming Moto G5 plus ( supposedly to come with Dual Pixel tech same as in Samsung S7) are a few to mention. Moreover, Xiaomi Mi 5 (comes with SD820) is a crazy good phone to consider if u can get your hands on one! Highly recommended!!
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Thank you for the reply. I can't go with the Mi 5 due to it being incompatible with my network. What do you think of the Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro? It looks like an absolute beast to me.
Fobos531 said:
Thank you for the reply. I can't go with the Mi 5 due to it being incompatible with my network. What do you think of the Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro? It looks like an absolute beast to me.
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Ya Z2 pro is a pretty good device! But i don't think that it has much software development! And the Camera is mediocre too. Performance wise, its a beast.
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Ya Z2 pro is a pretty good device! But i don't think that it has much software development! And the Camera is mediocre too. Performance wise, its a beast.
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Agreed. I don't use camera that much so it's fine for me. I wish it had more software development than it, but even then, it seems to be extremely good out of the box (software-wise). So yeah, I'm in kind of a dilemma now, cause I need a device that will last 3 years or more. Also I can't go with Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2 because they don't have the required bands for my provider.
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Agreed. I don't use camera that much so it's fine for me. I wish it had more software development than it, but even then, it seems to be extremely good out of the box (software-wise). So yeah, I'm in kind of a dilemma now, cause I need a device that will last 3 years or more. Also I can't go with Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2 because they don't have the required bands for my provider.
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Then my opinion is that u must wait a week or two and buy yourself a Moto G5+ it will be having the same multipurpose fingerprint sensor (the one Lenovo uses), a class apart camera, much faster updates and vast dev community and this time they are even implementing moto voice feature which was earlier enjoyed only by the moto x users! I am not a moto fan though but this device looks promising!
amitgudwill said:
Then my opinion is that u must wait a week or two and buy yourself a Moto G5+ it will be having the same multipurpose fingerprint sensor (the one Lenovo uses), a class apart camera, much faster updates and vast dev community and this time they are even implementing moto voice feature which was earlier enjoyed only by the moto x users! I am not a moto fan though but this device looks promising!
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Seems reasonable. I might as well wait for G5+ and buy it when it becomes available. Thank you once again.
Take my advice and don't buy it.
So did you go for the OP2?
The G5 looks like a good alternative!
no save your hard earned money and buy a better phone, this is already a 2 year old phone and its not worth buying anymore, otherwise if you find a new one for just $50 bucks go for it otherwise forget this phone even existed.

[Question] Current state of custom roms

Its been quite a while since I've had a phone that's been able to run custom roms (been on samsung snapdragon models with non unlockable bootloaders for a while now....think nexus 6p was my last phone with custom roms), but I remember that rom's came out pretty quick (however that could have been because of some nexus devices I had)
I guess what i'm getting at is, like how TWRP was facing issues with decryption, is there a major hurdle with custom roms for the 6t? Is it the fingerprint reader? Or perhaps lack of interest in the device (this one would be weird to me since it feels like this is a pretty popular device at this point).
Please don't this as a "WHERE R ALL MAH ROMZ AT " kinda thread. Purely curiosity as I'm super happy with my phone currently with magisk and substratum :]
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Its been quite a while since I've had a phone that's been able to run custom roms (been on samsung snapdragon models with non unlockable bootloaders for a while now....think nexus 6p was my last phone with custom roms), but I remember that rom's came out pretty quick (however that could have been because of some nexus devices I had)
I guess what i'm getting at is, like how TWRP was facing issues with decryption, is there a major hurdle with custom roms for the 6t? Is it the fingerprint reader? Or perhaps lack of interest in the device (this one would be weird to me since it feels like this is a pretty popular device at this point).
Please don't this as a "WHERE R ALL MAH ROMZ AT " kinda thread. Purely curiosity as I'm super happy with my phone currently with magisk and substratum :]
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Well, this should probably go in the question and answer area, but legitimate question still. I have heard some others in other threads say that the fingerprint scanner might be weird to work with, since it's a new concept. It seems that OnePlus devices generally have some solid Dev scenes though, I'm thinking it's a matter of time until we start to see a bunch of custom roms surface. We just got a functional TWRP build that even still is getting small tweaks and updates so I think we're just in early stages of the phone, the best is yet to come! Never settle ma dude!
6 and 6T source's are unified so roms aren't hard to bring up but most devs will not be interested making the jump from 6 or they'll make the jump to the Poco F1
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6 and 6T source's are unified so roms aren't hard to bring up but most devs will not be interested making the jump from 6 or they'll make the jump to the Poco F1
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Sucks that the F1 doesn't have my LTE bands 2 and 12, or I would have gotten it in a heartbeat over this. Don't get me wrong, this is an amazing phone that looks way better than the F1, but the bigger battery and thriving development is super tempting.
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Sucks that the F1 doesn't have my LTE bands 2 and 12, or I would have gotten it in a heartbeat over this. Don't get me wrong, this is an amazing phone that looks way better than the F1, but the bigger battery and thriving development is super tempting.
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Yep if it wasn't for the poor quality panel they used and the LED bleed + the notch I'd of taken the Poco F1 was on sale recently for like £279 for the 6/64 variant. Cheaper than a OnePlus 3 at launch.
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Yep if it wasn't for the poor quality panel they used and the LED bleed + the notch I'd of taken the Poco F1 was on sale recently for like £279 for the 6/64 variant. Cheaper than a OnePlus 3 at launch.
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The notch and panel weren't deal breakers for me, but my phone is my primary source of internet access and I need those 2 bands in my area for decent connection.

What Are You Replacing Your 2 XL With, And Why?

What device are members wanting, getting, or waiting for, and why?
I'm itching to replace my perfectly working 18 mo old 2 XL, and would like ideas for selecting my next device.
Many users on Xda are way more up to speed on new devices, specs, reviews, and which devices will likely have more dev support than others.
So I figured I'd ask the lot of you 2 XL owners what you're thinking about getting in 2019, or what you're waiting for in 2020.
All opinions are welcome, please be respectful, and understand that everyone has an opinion, and some won't align with yours, and that's okay
Az Biker said:
What device are members wanting, getting, or waiting for, and why?
I'm itching to replace my perfectly working 18 mo old 2 XL, and would like ideas for selecting my next device.
Many users on Xda are way more up to speed on new devices, specs, reviews, and which devices will likely have more dev support than others.
So I figured I'd ask the lot of you 2 XL owners what you're thinking about getting in 2019, or what you're waiting for in 2020.
All opinions are welcome, please be respectful, and understand that everyone has an opinion, and some won't align with yours, and that's okay
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Hey ol buddy. I'm with you, my P2XL is just fine and dandy, also 18 months old. However, new stuff is always fun. Was seriously considering an S10+ but the stupid tear out notch on the screen just turned me off quickly. I'll wait until the Fall and see what the P4 has to offer. I'm a very ANTI NOTCH guy, so, I'll likely be disappointed I'm sure.
The essential 2 looks like it'll be a nice phone. No notch!https://www.techradar.com/news/essential-phone-2-patent-points-to-an-in-screen-camera
I'm waiting for pixel 4xl. If that's not good enough I'll wait until pixel 5xl.
My 2xl is so good tho I have little desire to upgrade.
Probably won't replace the panda 2xl this year. It does everything I need and still performs and looks like a new phone. Also still have 19 months left on the warranty since I got a warranty replacement last October. I'll most likely be interested in the Pixel 4 or 4xl depending on the price and notch situation.
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I have a strange problem with USB port. Charging works, but data transfer doesn't, all the dongles are not working either. In addition, i have a verizon model, so i'm not able to root my device. i'm currently planning to save some money and buy OnePlus 7 when it's released. Also, i live in Russia, and RMA is not available for me. The camera on Pixel is just wonderful, but all these issues ruin the whole thing.
Pixel 4 XL but if Google doesn't step up their hardware game, I'll wait for the S11+.
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Mine just turned a year this month and I don't think I'll replace it until next year. Essential 2, Pixel 4 and Galaxy S10 are interesting to me.
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Hey ol buddy. I'm with you, my P2XL is just fine and dandy, also 18 months old. However, new stuff is always fun. Was seriously considering an S10+ but the stupid tear out notch on the screen just turned me off quickly. I'll wait until the Fall and see what the P4 has to offer. I'm a very ANTI NOTCH guy, so, I'll likely be disappointed I'm sure.
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Agreed! I'll keep my Pixel 2 XL until Google and mainly Kernel/ROM devs stop supporting it. :good:
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Agreed! I'll keep my Pixel 2 XL until Google and mainly Kernel/ROM devs stop supporting it. :good:
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You betchya Mr. Sound man! :laugh:
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The essential 2 looks like it'll be a nice phone. No notch!https://www.techradar.com/news/essential-phone-2-patent-points-to-an-in-screen-camera
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I would definitely go with Essential 2. I love my Essential with the less annoying notch man-kind has ever seen. Or One+7

New phone- what should I get?

Hey guys. I'm getting a new phone and I'm wondering what the best phone is that I can afford. $350. I can get an iPhone 8 or 9, or a Samsung 9 or 10. Or a pixel. Or ?
What would you guys do, and why? (I don't plan on modding the phone in any way)
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Wow, thanks for the suggestions!
You might like a pixel more if you don't plan on modding due to the frequent updates.
Thanks, I'll look into the pixel!
Pixel looked good, but I eventually went with a galaxy s9 plus.
I know this was a while ago, but I might as well through out the Pixel 4a which was just released and I like it pretty well. Exactly $350.
Has anyone gone to the pixel 4A from the G7? Thoughts please if you have
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Has anyone gone to the pixel 4A from the G7? Thoughts please if you have
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I'm sure that some people have. It makes a lot of sense since the G7 only has another year of updates or so and the Pixel "A" lineup is a pretty good competitor other than being a lot better. I have a family member who uses the Pixel 4A and they are a fan of it. I've tried it myself for a little bit and it was a pretty good experience. Other than the smaller screen size, it's a pretty good upgrade for the price. Also, higher and modern specs.

Looks like it's finally time to say goodbye to this sub section fo the forums

After a long 3 years of my Pixel 2 XL, looks like I finally have a good reason to upgrade. I didn't want to upgrade to the Pixel 4a because it was smaller and I'm use to a bigger phone. Now with the new leak confirming the Pixel 4a 5G to be bigger than the 4a, it's finally time to bite the bullet. Been a great 3 years with all the excellent roms, community, and reviews here. Hope to see some familiar names in the 4a 5G sub forums when I get the phone!
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