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who's moving on to the oneplus 2?

as the title says! who's upgrading from oneplus one to oneplus two like me ?
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I don`t see why,our phone is great and there is not much added to opo 2, the powerful processors that noboby needs,our 2.5 doing well till now,4gb ram? who needs this huge ram?? 3 is more than enough for now

Blackie3 said:
I don`t see why,our phone is great and there is not much added to opo 2, the powerful processors that noboby needs,our 2.5 doing well till now,4gb ram? who needs this huge ram?? 3 is more than enough for now
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Totally agree I think the One still has good specs which will last me a good while. Plus as the one has been out for 15 months there will be more mod support for it. Only thing I would like is OIS and laser auto but for my usage its a niggle rather than a problem. Looking forward to COS12.1 and Oxygen v2 though. Probably will flash Cyanogenmod later down the line though.

The Moto X Style looks like it might be a better phone than the Oneplus 2 to me, but neither are a big enough leap to have me pining for a new phone. I'll be sticking with the OPO for at least another year, and I can even envision stretching it into 2017 unless there's a really compelling leap in tech. To me we're at the point where these incremental updates really aren't doing much.

If they buy back my OPO, then I can move to OP2.
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thisisjason said:
The Moto X Style looks like it might be a better phone than the Oneplus 2 to me, but neither are a big enough leap to have me pining for a new phone. I'll be sticking with the OPO for at least another year, and I can even envision stretching it into 2017 unless there's a really compelling leap in tech. To me we're at the point where these incremental updates really aren't doing much.
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Me too, I've seen moto x style better option than opo2, still I will stay with opo
This comparative Is nice
http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-r...-is-a-better-phone-than-the-OnePlus-2_id72086

Negative captain, staying on one plus one

Not much of a price difference and I have a stupid obsession of buying things I don't need, I'll sell my opo unscratched un dropped for as much as I can and hope for the best. I have issues...
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The missing NFC is a big factor in my decision.... so NO ...staying put with the oneplusone
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Im not!No Cyanogen No Love...No NFC, Ugly design...

I RSVP'd attendance to the event here in Paris.. My wife said I could buy it if I like it, but really, even after getting to see it in person tomorrow I doubt I get it.. It falls short so far to me, plus I rather like this community.. Who knows how long I'll wait to flash anything custom..
I'll report back after caressing the screen of the 2..
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Unless there's huge hardware improvements that rumors haven't been release I will stay with my OPO
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I am if i get an invite before i'm 75 years old... New toys, got to have NEW TOYS !

Nopes! There's no point at all to upgrade to OP2 from OPO considering it's just a refreshed version, nothing major is introduced. Instead, they stripped down some features. OPO is still performing amazingly well and the dev support is just awesome.

i will and of course i'll keep my ONE as well while the nexus 5 goes to my grand son. easy as that.

I unlock my Lastpass using NFC so I will definitely not buy it UNLESS I Lastpass will work with the fingerprint scanner of the OP2.

If the new nexus disappoints or is too high a price for the hardware then I might as well.
NFC I never use and I charge my phone overnight anyway. I'll be giving my one to my dad if that happens
Edit: you know what probably not since its heavier and thicker. I really don't like that aspect mostly the thicker part. Since there some metal I expect it heavier anyway
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magnamentis said:
i will and of course i'll keep my ONE as well while the nexus 5 goes to my grand son. easy as that.
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You can get the Moto X Style it's a much better phone than the Oneplus Two
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no way!! I'm not jumping through the hoop again for an invite. I'm settled now and their customer services suks. Maybe op3 or op4 when I can buy instantly.

No way lol. I'm getting one of the new Nexus phones most probably. Then jump to the OP3.

Nexus 6P vs Pixel XL

Hey guys, how you all doing?
Just wanted to know your opinion. Currently I am a phoneless guy since my Nexus 5 died a few days ago and since I gave up on the ZTE Axon 7 due to the lack of support from ZTE to the mod community. I am really, really, really eager to finally see what Google is up with the new Pixel phones. Some rumors say that it will be a tough phone to root and mod due to the two partitions for seamless updates and the startup check, etc, etc. That is worrying me a bit. But, since I am a bit desperate to get a new phone, the wait is just cruel, unbearable, excruciating! Yesterday I came across the Nexus 6P, the 128GB version to be more specific, at Amazon. Taking the Nexus 5 as reference, I know that I can rely on the support from the mod community to always have new and updated stuff, since we are talking of a phone that was launched just one year ago. SO, what would you do? Buy a consolidated phone that is the Nexus 6P with tons and tons of mods available, or wait for the Pixel XL?
Sorry for the long text!
Regards!

i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!

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i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!
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I am with Rusty. They said the same thing with iPhone jailbreak (root), Samsung's KNOX, SELinux, locked bootloaders, crazy EEPROM chips, Nexus 6P qfuse, etc...

rusty-ragster said:
i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!
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Huh?
Root on a Pixel or Nexus device?
Unlock the bootloader and flash?
That is the one advantage that has always existed on Google/Nexus devices.
If the bootloader is unlockable, then root is pedestrian at best.

Here is mY 2 cents. I literally know nothing about the new pixel phone as I have no interest in getting it. The only thing I do know that I could suggest is number one HTC is a dying company and I believe that's who makes the phone. It seems to be a love-hate relationship depending on who you talk to but in my opinion they make some of the worst phones available. Number 2 the pixel phone is going to be close to $700 where as the 6p is now selling for under three hundred depending on where you go which is a gigantic difference in price. Again I don't know the specs the ins and the outs of the new pixel phone however a $400 price difference and the name HTC would lead me to say go with the 6p. Remember how well the last HTC Nexus device when? Probably not cuz it was basically a pos that nobody gave a damn about
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Well I know I'm loving 6p big time after finally being able to get one a couple of weeks ago. It's the gold 64gb one and wow, what a phone that will be hard to beat. I'm working twelves and the phone makes it through the whole shift with ghostpepper profile applied. Anyway like previous post what a deal and for the price of pixel, what a steal. Good luck and thank you.

tech_head said:
Huh?
Root on a Pixel or Nexus device?
Unlock the bootloader and flash?
That is the one advantage that has always existed on Google/Nexus devices.
If the bootloader is unlockable, then root is pedestrian at best.
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indeed, but there was an article on the portal about the changes regarding rooting the pixel based on the new partition scheming due to the seamless updates.

Yes guys, I did it! Got a brand new 128GB for 405 euros. Eagerly waiting!

rusty-ragster said:
indeed, but there was an article on the portal about the changes regarding rooting the pixel based on the new partition scheming due to the seamless updates.
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Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
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gibawatts said:
Yes guys, I did it! Got a brand new 128GB for 405 euros. Eagerly waiting!
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Where??

ludovicien said:
Where??
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German Amazon

Seller has 0% positive ratings after 5 transactions. Brave. Good luck.

ludovicien said:
Seller has 0% positive ratings after 5 transactions. Brave. Good luck.
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Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=

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Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=
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Great deal, Congratz! Enjoy your Nexus6 P.

Shaftamle said:
Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
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It's not harder just a new layout. Chain fire will have it working in no time. Don't sweat it.

Shaftamle said:
Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
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i know man seems like google is bringing the nexus out of the dev phone spectrum and is targeting it towards the average consumer now with all of this new pixel branding and stuff i don't understand why though as it took them a long time to make the nexus brand popular and now they are ditching it when it's better than it ever was. :/

gibawatts said:
Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=
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1.8 rating dude...

I just got a €390 128GB Nexus 6P, new. On ebay from a guy who bought it and had a problem. While he waited for the substitution from Google he bought a different phone and wanted to cash back as soon as possible. I was suspicious but the phone arrived in the box, completely sealed and everything was legit. Sometimes you get lucky (and considering I needed it to substitute my Note 3 who got destroyed in a fall, Spigen case and tempered glass protector notwithstanding... I sort of deserved it).
Pixel XL doesn't convince me. Smaller screen first of all. With screens it's relatively easy to go bigger... but going smaller? Not for me.

gorman42 said:
I just got a €390 128GB Nexus 6P, new. On ebay from a guy who bought it and had a problem. While he waited for the substitution from Google he bought a different phone and wanted to cash back as soon as possible. I was suspicious but the phone arrived in the box, completely sealed and everything was legit. Sometimes you get lucky (and considering I needed it to substitute my Note 3 who got destroyed in a fall, Spigen case and tempered glass protector notwithstanding... I sort of deserved it).
Pixel XL doesn't convince me. Smaller screen first of all. With screens it's relatively easy to go bigger... but going smaller? Not for me.
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Yes, some times you get lucky. I didn't! I started asking questions and out of the blue I received an email from Amazon telling me that the guy canceled the the sell because he didn't have the phone . So I promptly bought a 64GB that is fullfiled by amazon, of course.

Got mine less than a month ago. 390 Euros .. the 64Gb version all bran new.
I don't think it's worth paying 700$ for the Pixel XL for the 32Gb version. Didn't see anything worth wasting money on. No major hardware changes that will make that a good deal.

Why im selling my htc u11

I decided to sell my htc u11 and wait for the pixel 2 and here's why, the htc u11 is overall a great phone but there a few problems im having with it, its bulky and not that comfortable to hold and use especially with one hand.. The camera is kinda slow and i have to put effort to take a good non blurry pic and i know this isnt a big problem but to me it is, the pixel 2 will have Snapdragon 836 and will be more compact and more comfortable to use and also will have a better camera and stock android. I dont see any reason to pick the u11 over it..

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I decided to sell my htc u11 and wait for the pixel 2 and here's why, the htc u11 is overall a great phone but there a few problems im having with it, its bulky and not that comfortable to hold and use especially with one hand.. The camera is kinda slow and i have to put effort to take a good non blurry pic and i know this isnt a big problem but to me it is, the pixel 2 will have Snapdragon 836 and will be more compact and more comfortable to use and also will have a better camera and stock android. I dont see any reason to pick the u11 over it..
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We all know ur just looking for some input to support your decision. Lol I myself am extremely pleased with my u11. I have a pixel xl and u11 and i love the u11 so much more. ??

And also the fact that this is the second thread, why someone is selling their U11.

Good for you man, nobody asked why you are selling

The Pixel is probably going to cost $200 more.

By the time the ugly Pixel comes out, (with no external storage) the HTC 12 will be right around the corner. In the meantime, we will sit back and enjoy our HTC U11.

I don't even know why these threads are being allowed, they've never been allowed before. If you're selling your device, we don't care. There are plenty of threads discussing the device like the mega thread at the top of this very forum. All these threads do is cause clutter. Selling a device for a device that isn't even out yet is absurd but hopefully you enjoy it when it finally drops.

LibertyMonger said:
By the time the ugly Pixel comes out, (with no external storage) the HTC 12 will be right around the corner. In the meantime, we will sit back and enjoy our HTC U11.
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First wave of Pixel shipments was October 21, 2016. First wave of U11 shipments was June 6, 2017. Not sure in what world 7.5 months is "right around the corner". Pixel 2 might be out even earlier this year.
External storage is definitely not the main feature differentiating HTC and Google flagships.

I returned mine, but mostly due to the fact that I wanted stock Android and a bigger battery. With Pixel XL 2 around the corner I will get that or a OnePlus 5T if they release one with a fixed screen.

duplicate thread is duplicate

aknotts415 said:
We all know ur just looking for some input to support your decision. Lol I myself am extremely pleased with my u11. I have a pixel xl and u11 and i love the u11 so much more. ??
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Great answer in first sentence :good:
Like everyone needs to open a tread here about theirs decisions it's just LOL

Well changing to pixel 2 in the future is not that of a bad idea if u like limitations that those phones offer but saying that the camera will be better than u11 and it is very hard to make a good sharp picture is just utter nonsense and pure trolling. First of all the device is still many months away, probably it's going to cost 800e easily and it will be very hard to get and nobody knows if the camera will be better. Secondly the camera choppiness will be addressed with next update and I just came back from holidays and 99.9% of my pictures are sharp and beautiful. My girlfriend hates my phone! It takes better pictures than her Canon camera so the problem is with you my friend and you have no idea how to take pictures.

Kisakuku said:
First wave of Pixel shipments was October 21, 2016. First wave of U11 shipments was June 6, 2017. Not sure in what world 7.5 months is "right around the corner". Pixel 2 might be out even earlier this year.
External storage is definitely not the main feature differentiating HTC and Google flagships.
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The U11 was late getting out this year it is usually between the end of March to May. I'm quite sure in this effin world HTC might get their next device out on time next year or at least much earlier. I don't know what world you were in but the U11 was held up this year due to some greedy company. So as I said, we will enjoy our U11 all the way through October and until spring when the HTC 12 comes out.

Kisakuku said:
First wave of Pixel shipments was October 21, 2016. First wave of U11 shipments was June 6, 2017. Not sure in what world 7.5 months is "right around the corner". Pixel 2 might be out even earlier this year.
External storage is definitely not the main feature differentiating HTC and Google flagships.
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If you followed the pixel xl 128gb orders. I ordered mine end of october and didnt get it untill the first week of january. So have fun waiting if supply is the same lol.

Thread closed, there is already a thread about this discussion. Please use this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/how-to/returning-htc-u11-t3621281

Oneplus 5 ? Or wait for the 6

As the title suggests I want to upgrade to a oneplus 5 but don't know if I should wait for the six

Do you need a new phone as soon as possible? --> Buy a OnePlus 5/5T
If you can wait and want to show off later --> Buy a OnePlus 6 (or 7 )

The op6 will be launched on june or july, not before
So if you need a phone quickly, buy the 5 or 5T

xdamember143 said:
As the title suggests I want to upgrade to a oneplus 5 but don't know if I should wait for the six
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Personally wouldn't buy another 1+ device, you buy the Oneplus on launch day like i did, obsolete in 5 months, buy the 5T, obsolete come the next quarter.
The 6 will more than likely be followed by the 6T, i'm tired of this, plus the lack of OIS is something i'm never going to commit to again.
So for me, neither, buy the HTC 12 or wait for the next pixel, either way it's not a 1+.
But that's me
PS: if from the 6 onwards it's going to be 1 per year and they fix things like the lack of OIS then yea i'll consider it, but honestly they've burnt their bridges with me at the moment, so long as HTC can actually put out a device with anything close to the battery i get on my 1+5 i'll be happy.

Don't stress! They probably will release Oneplus 5Z in the next week! (Sarcasm)
No but depending on how urgent, wait for the next one. Else go for a 5T

linuxares said:
Don't stress! They probably will release Oneplus 5Z in the next week! (Sarcasm)
No but depending on how urgent, wait for the next one. Else go for a 5T
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It's not as urgent but I really miss stock android and the ability to root and install roms which is a deal breaker for me since I have a device which can't be rooted.

dladz said:
Personally wouldn't buy another 1+ device, you buy the Oneplus on launch day like i did, obsolete in 5 months, buy the 5T, obsolete come the next quarter.
The 6 will more than likely be followed by the 6T, i'm tired of this, plus the lack of OIS is something i'm never going to commit to again.
So for me, neither, buy the HTC 12 or wait for the next pixel, either way it's not a 1+.
But that's me
PS: if from the 6 onwards it's going to be 1 per year and they fix things like the lack of OIS then yea i'll consider it, but honestly they've burnt their bridges with me at the moment, so long as HTC can actually put out a device with anything close to the battery i get on my 1+5 i'll be happy.
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That's what I been thinking also , but I like how oneplus is affordable and usually have more development than other oems

xdamember143 said:
That's what I been thinking also , but I like how oneplus is affordable and usually have more development than other oems
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Actually HTC has more in a lot of cases, the HTC 10 did and precious devices, HTC have always had great development.

dladz said:
Actually HTC has more in a lot of cases, the HTC 10 did and precious devices, HTC have always had great development.
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But HTC is a dying company to be honest ?

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But HTC is a dying company to be honest ?
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Lol are you sure mate ? That's been said for some time and yet they're still here not only that but have you actually lived with a HTC phone? When was the last one you owned ? They're absolutely rapid, there is literally nothing bad about the latest phones at all (ish)
The ish is for the one flaw that they always put in, usually the battery but it's the small imperfections which make it have character, the camera has been superb in the last few devices, I've had every flagship bar two the one X and the M8, every other I've had and they've all been amazing bar the one fault
I didn't like the 11 so went with the 1+ but the one thing I'd loved to have had is the camera which is up there with the pixels, the HTC 12 if rumours are to be believed then it'll be a beast, ois, great camera, 845, lot of memory, probably an SD slot.

5/5T are great phones. you won't be disappointed with anything about them (maybe up to 2-3yrs).
there are some concerns with their cameras, but in my opinion, you can take some great shots w/ them, comparable to S8/Note8.
Best Performance, Good Display, Good Cameras, Great Selfie, And a lot of community support... What else you need!?

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5/5T are great phones. you won't be disappointed with anything about them (maybe up to 2-3yrs).
there are some concerns with their cameras, but in my opinion, you can take some great shots w/ them, comparable to S8/Note8.
Best Performance, Good Display, Good Cameras, Great Selfie, And a lot of community support... What else you need!?
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Missing ois, if you've got a tripod all the time the yep it's great, but the lack of ois means it's a deal breaker for me, I didn't think it'd be that bad. Never again man.

As already stated, depends on urgency, features and price. I personally would buy a 5T and not worry about the 6 so much. This is because the 5\5T is fast enough and since you are going to mess around with custom roms and kernels, the ported GCam with portrait mode makes world of a difference to the picture quality. However, even with out GCam, I dont really care too much about picture quality, I dont really take that much pictures anyway. The value for money is already here with the 5\5T and from current trend with OnePlus, the 6 will most likely be more expensive.
To be honest (you would of heard this a million times now), its all about what you want out of your phone and how much you willing to pay for it. There is no one phone that is best for everyone. The thing I will say is one of the best value for money phone is the OnePlus 5T and you will probably get the majority agreeing with that statement.

Just wait for the 6, only 5 month is really a little waiting time

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Just wait for the 6, only 5 month is really a little waiting time
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But...8 month for the 6T!
Haha only joking... I agree with y'all 5 or 5T are both great, I do have a lot of fun with mine.

Essential PH-1 vs Essential's Next Phone

All,
I am in the market for new phone. I am trying to decide what to do. I really the like Essential PH-1 after using both Nexus and Pixel phones. I'm on my backup Nexus6 phone after my Pixel decided to no longer boot.
I am not in a rush to get a new phone and have been doing some research. It appears Essential may be releasing a new phone in the next couple of months.
Would you get the PH-1 or wait it out for the next phone?

WhammyDroid said:
All,
I am in the market for new phone. I am trying to decide what to do. I really the like Essential PH-1 after using both Nexus and Pixel phones. I'm on my backup Nexus6 phone after my Pixel decided to no longer boot.
I am not in a rush to get a new phone and have been doing some research. It appears Essential may be releasing a new phone in the next couple of months.
Would you get the PH-1 or wait it out for the next phone?
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You can always wait for the next thing.
Even if announced in the next few months, it probably won't be avail for another 3 months.
Can you wait six m months before you get a new phone?
If the answer is yes, then wait.

You might have to wait until August. The next phone will have a better camera. It does the job for me.
http://www.businessinsider.com/essential-phone-camera-andy-rubin-2018-4
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Has there been any hint on size of phone? I definitely do not want a phone as large as the Nexus 6. It is just too big.

tech_head said:
You can always wait for the next thing.
Even if announced in the next few months, it probably won't be avail for another 3 months.
Can you wait six m months before you get a new phone?
If the answer is yes, then wait.
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My only issue with getting the PH-1 now is that in another year, Essential will stop sending OS updates. That to me is possibly worth waiting.

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Has there been any hint on size of phone? I definitely do not want a phone as large as the Nexus 6. It is just too big.
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They indicated the 360 camera would still be functional.
I doubt that they are going to increase size dramatically.

WhammyDroid said:
My only issue with getting the PH-1 now is that in another year, Essential will stop sending OS updates. That to me is possibly worth waiting.
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The updates have been fast and furious on the PH-1 so far. And it is sooo much smaller than a Nexus 6. That you will love.
Low light camera is the only downside to PH-1, and I haven't even installed the Google Cam, shame on me.
8.1 is brilliant on this device.

chiadrum said:
The updates have been fast and furious on the PH-1 so far. And it is sooo much smaller than a Nexus 6. That you will love.
Low light camera is the only downside to PH-1, and I haven't even installed the Google Cam, shame on me.
8.1 is brilliant on this device.
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I completely agree. I've only had mine for 3 days, but it's been solid for me, and the form factor is perfect. I'll probably play around with root / camera stuff in the next month, and it's evident that Essential listens and releases updates to try and fix issues. That is rare.

I use the oem camera app for black and white photography which it does brilliantly and the GCam port for everything else, great combo imho. Love the phone, it's superb on 8.1
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Do you have a phone budget? PH-1 has been selling on a discount vs new. The next model will surely be back in the $700+ range. If you want a good daily phone running the latest Android, its not a bad choice. If you arent afraid of lightly used phones, you can get ones in mint condition on swappa for low $300's. Good value if you are into that sort of thing.

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Do you have a phone budget? PH-1 has been selling on a discount vs new. The next model will surely be back in the $700+ range. If you want a good daily phone running the latest Android, its not a bad choice. If you arent afraid of lightly used phones, you can get ones in mint condition on swappa for low $300's. Good value if you are into that sort of thing.
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Yeah, I doubt the next phone will be a $400 phone.
They will have learned. They might keep the PH-1 in a single color to have a low end phone, then have the new phone as a flagship.
Who knows? It most definitely won't be this cheap.

I have to agree with the sentiment hare. It's a very good deal right now for a great handset. Updates are better than Sony, which is saying something, and they seem very responsive to fixing issues. Plus, development is just starting to get some traction.

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My only issue with getting the PH-1 now is that in another year, Essential will stop sending OS updates. That to me is possibly worth waiting.
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It really wouldnt shock me to see them adopt the 3 year os update pact that google started with the pixel 2 xl.

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It really wouldnt shock me to see them adopt the 3 year os update pact that google started with the pixel 2 xl.
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True, I'm just not sure if I want to take that chance.

tech_head said:
Yeah, I doubt the next phone will be a $400 phone.
They will have learned. They might keep the PH-1 in a single color to have a low end phone, then have the new phone as a flagship.
Who knows? It most definitely won't be this cheap.
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I'm not expecting the phone to be cheap. I want it to be great. I'm really impressed with their design so far and I like the fact that essential is producing better design with the same OS update model.
I do not want another manufacturer because of all the bloatware that is installed.