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[Q] Who thinks that HTC is about to repeat the success of the Galaxy S2?

I have a strong feeling that this is totally their Galaxy S2 moment.
This will be the point where they will finally be noticed.
HTC will keep releasing success after success.
This also includes the possibility of a real Phablet coming Q3 2013 (HTC Note?) instead of HTC One+
Then next year will be the year where they will seal the deal.
Samsung will burn to the ground.
And HTC will rise once again like the times of HD2.

if the phone ever get released in the states

Certainly the ONE should break out for HTC ... but lets face it, in the real (99% of buyers) world it will be smothered in a mountain of marketing foam by Samsung and Apple, and HTC will have to be happy picking up the pieces left over from the war of the big guys.
BUT .. their corporate performance WILL improve and they will be back in the running, but as the top dog in the rest of the pack.

This is HTC's window of opportunity as I can't see Samsung making the same mistake again especially if Samsung sell less then last year which I think they will.
Htc need to take a risk if the opportunity presents itself which it has. React HTC aggressively sell their own product, market it, advertise it properly and it's possible.

S2 moment! Not really. For majority of people out there the no SD card and non-removable battery is still an issue. If One had those then yes they could have nailed it.
HTC should now come out with a 4 or 4.3" version of One (similar premium build and features), maybe 720p SLCD3 screen, with a massive (2800mAH or bigger) battery and a SD card option for a very very good price (below S3). Then only it can see itself coming back to reckoning. They need that big battery in a device pretty badly coz as of now they have that tag of making phones with poor battery life. And its all about perceptions (at least for majority of people).

+1
for the "if ever released" comment
its already rolling for some customers in the UK
and HTC has said USA is their priority market
its us in the rest of the world who will have to wait
jsut a reminder:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 gets April 26th UK release date, preorders start March 28th

I doubt it, HTC don't have the marketing of Samsung or Apple to sell 90 million+ units.

Livebyte said:
I have a strong feeling that this is totally their Galaxy S2 moment.
This will be the point where they will finally be noticed.
HTC will keep releasing success after success.
This also includes the possibility of a real Phablet coming Q3 2013 (HTC Note?) instead of HTC One+
Then next year will be the year where they will seal the deal.
Samsung will burn to the ground.
And HTC will rise once again like the times of HD2.
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you do know that this is just a phone at the end of the day

Goku80 said:
you do know that this is just a phone at the end of the day
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you do realize HTC is struggling? its ok if its fans want it to rise again before its late
and you can't deny there is a window of opportunity here
finally we already know your One X is too good for you to buy either

hamdir said:
you do realize HTC is nearly dying? its ok if its fans want it to rise again before its late
and you can't deny there is a window of opportunity here
finally we already know your One X is too good for you to buy either
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i do not mind the constant discussions regarding which phone is better than the other one but sometimes people tend to take it to the extreme..
yes my One X is to good to sell it..i know one day i say i am going to sell it and the next i will not but the matter is now not even the Nexus for me now is something i am interested in...my money is on a tablet device and from next friday i will have the money to purchase one...will wait for the next upgrade which is this time next year...for now my One x is more than good enough
As for a company dying..I feel sorry for people losing there jobs if that happens...Nothing else...i really do hope HTC do well as i really love the build quality of there phones but they do need to get there act together.

Goku80 said:
i do not mind the constant discussions regarding which phone is better than the other one but sometimes people tend to take it to the extreme..
yes my One X is to good to sell it..i know one day i say i am going to sell it and the next i will not but the matter is now not even the Nexus for me now is something i am interested in...my money is on a tablet device and from next friday i will have the money to purchase one...will wait for the next upgrade which is this time next year...for now my One x is more than good enough
As for a company dying..I feel sorry for people losing there jobs if that happens...Nothing else...i really do hope HTC do well as i really love the build quality of there phones but they do need to get there act together.
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well you might be in luck
considering they r launching only one flagship this year, and how agressive they are becoming
and the fact Google is worried about Samsung
I think we might see an HTC NEXUS this year

hamdir said:
well you might be in luck
considering they r launching only one flagship this year, and how agressive they are becoming
and the fact Google is worried about Samsung
I think we might see an HTC NEXUS this year
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Not this year, next year.
This year we are getting motorola nexus.

Dharkan said:
Not this year, next year.
This year we are getting motorola nexus.
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oh is there real leaks about this? about time to be honest
im truly siding with everyone honestly against sammy, all of them build good phones, i mean even the optimus G is nicely built
sadly LG is going Sammy's way with the pro...

hamdir said:
oh is there real leaks about this? about time to be honest
im truly siding with everyone honestly against sammy, all of them build good phones, i mean even the optimus G is nicely built
sadly LG is going Sammy's way with the pro...
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Oh I saw the specs told by Google, was that rumors? Let me find an english source, I saw them in turkish tech site.
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Yeah sorry it seems they are rumors.
4.7-inç Full HD screen
NVIDIA Tegra 4i cpu
16-megapiksel camera
5-megapiksel front camera (light and eyescrolling sensor)
2GB RAM
Bluetooth 4.0
2400Mah battery
Size: 131.2 x 66.7 x 7.9 mm
Rumored to be announced in Google IO in May.

hamdir said:
oh is there real leaks about this? about time to be honest
im truly siding with everyone honestly against sammy, all of them build good phones, i mean even the optimus G is nicely built
sadly LG is going Sammy's way with the pro...
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This thing looks like a moto nexus http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/13/4097778/motorola-google-phone-leak

Dharkan said:
Oh I saw the specs told by Google, was that rumors? Let me find an english source, I saw them in turkish tech site.
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Yeah sorry it seems they are rumors.
4.7-inç Full HD screen
NVIDIA Tegra 4i cpu
16-megapiksel camera
5-megapiksel front camera (light and eyescrolling sensor)
2GB RAM
Bluetooth 4.0
2400Mah battery
Size: 131.2 x 66.7 x 7.9 mm
Rumored to be announced in Google IO in May.
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what? T4i? this is step back...especially at 1080p
(the back camera is crazy how are they gonna deal with noise?)

joslicx said:
S2 moment! Not really. For majority of people out there the no SD card and non-removable battery is still an issue. If One had those then yes they could have nailed it.
HTC should now come out with a 4 or 4.3" version of One (similar premium build and features), maybe 720p SLCD3 screen, with a massive (2800mAH or bigger) battery and a SD card option for a very very good price (below S3). Then only it can see itself coming back to reckoning. They need that big battery in a device pretty badly coz as of now they have that tag of making phones with poor battery life. And its all about perceptions (at least for majority of people).
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I don't think no SD card and removable battery are an issue for most people at all, only some. 4 people I know really well have an SGS3, none of them have a second battery or bother with the SD card. In fact, I think two of them don't even know about these 'features'.
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HTC will be success only if the customers can get their phones in Hand in time......Delaying will kill brand loyaltiy

joslicx said:
S2 moment! Not really. For majority of people out there the no SD card and non-removable battery is still an issue. If One had those then yes they could have nailed it.
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lol, sure why not.
most people couldn't care less about sd card and definitely most people don't care about non-removable battery.
the only people that do care are phone nerds like yourself.
End of.

The sdcard argument is so played out. 32 and 64 gb storage isn't enough?
The removable battery argument I get but the new qualcomm processors allow charging to be very fast
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[Rumor] 5T is coming

It's Official: OnePlus 5 is dead, they are releasing 5T.
EXCLUSIVE: This Is The OnePlus 5T With A Tall 6-inch 18:9 Display
OnePlus 5 Out of Stock in Most Countries, New Phone Coming Soon?

That's in no way offical

Do you know what "official" means?

That link doesn't even work! ROFL... nice troll job
The ONLY reason to even have a 5T at this point is for the new 600mhz band 71 support and they haven't said they are interested in that. Not to mention, you won't even need that support till second half of next year at the earliest unless you live in the 4 or 5 back woods areas they are launching by the end of the year. Which then means they will just wait till the OP6 to include that support.

Saw that article earlier. It even says that OnePlus did not officially confirm anything.
They just said their source, which is usually right, said OnePlus is preparing to launch a 5T.
The article also showed a low quality render of a supposed 5T and it looked a lot like the S8.
Anyway, I think it was a bunch of crap and the writers know it, which is why they probably took the article down.
There's absolutely no reason to launch a new device with a bigger screen and same specs months later. You either launch them together (like Samsung and Google do) or not at all.

That render is the OPPO F5 (right down to the lock screen).
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Article is still available
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/10/09/exclusive-oneplus-5t-tall-6-inch-189-display/
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That's the OPPO F5.... don't share misinformation. It's just likely that the Oneplus 6 when Snapdragon 845 comes out will have the same design. That's just about it.

If I told you that there was 80% chance of rain, would you be willing to bet that it wouldn't rain. Look at OnePlus' track record. they had the two, shortly after that the OP X, then came the three, followed a few months later by 3T and then the 5. As they have done previously before announcing a new phone, they list the current device as out of stock, which is how it listed now on the website. So you tell me that they are not trying to cash in on the Chistmas shopping season with a new device. They have done this before and unless you live in denial would understand this is how OnePlus operates.

Look, there might be a new phone coming. But it certainly isn't "official."
Maybe they'll release a 5T with a larger screen. Maybe they'll release a 6 with the Snapdragon 845. In fact, we can all agree a 5T/6 is coming, the only question is when.
But it certainly is not official. Do you seriously not know what the word means?

But all of those phones had different hardware. Even if just slightly.
The supposed 5T will feature the same hardware as the 5. The only difference will be the screen and perhaps the battery. This supposed 5T will be the OnePlus equivalent of an S8+ or the Pixel 2 XL.
And unless this supposed 5T features water resistance and a better camera, it won't be much better than the 5 either. Which translates to average sales.

I just saw this on Android Central. OnePlus 5T will reportedly feature 6-inch display with 18:9 aspect ratio.
https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-5t-will-reportedly-feature-6-inch-display-189-aspect-ratio
I just saw that their source is GizmoChina, so not necessarily true. Maybe just click bait.

purple lady said:
I just saw this on Android Central. OnePlus 5T will reportedly feature 6-inch display with 18:9 aspect ratio.
https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-5t-will-reportedly-feature-6-inch-display-189-aspect-ratio
I just saw that their source is GizmoChina, so not necessarily true. Maybe just click bait.
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The Android Central article even points out to take this with a large grain of salt.
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i moved this thread to general and changed the title. This is not an official announcement by the One Plus team, this is still a rumor. Please have a healthy discussion and dont flame/disrespect anyone.
thanks all
Wolf

Lol no. Not even. The huge sign of bs is the 6 inch screen and the stupid aspect ratio. OnePlus has been 5.5 since the start with the x being the black sheep. Please don't make threads like this. Let OnePlus do the talking for themselves. They're usually good about releasing teasers and the like anyway. We are not getting a new phone this December and that's fine. There's not even a new Snapdragon to upgrade to. Please look at the signs especially before trusting gizmochina.

These rumors look ridiculous but I'd be all over a bigger screen.

CrashTestDroid said:
These rumors look ridiculous but I'd be all over a bigger screen.
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Lol and the fingerprint scanner ?? Or will they have the thing apple could not achieve one under the screen.

snippem said:
Lol and the fingerprint scanner ?? Or will they have the thing apple could not achieve one under the screen.
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The rumors say it will be on the back.
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https://www.oppomart.com/oneplus/op5t.html

rjpa123 said:
https://www.oppomart.com/oneplus/op5t.html
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Interesting link, if that holds true I wonder what the business wisdom in that is.
I would at least have expected a camera upgrade...
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OcazPrime said:
Lol no. Not even. The huge sign of bs is the 6 inch screen and the stupid aspect ratio. OnePlus has been 5.5 since the start with the x being the black sheep. Please don't make threads like this. Let OnePlus do the talking for themselves. They're usually good about releasing teasers and the like anyway. We are not getting a new phone this December and that's fine. There's not even a new Snapdragon to upgrade to. Please look at the signs especially before trusting gizmochina.
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Pre sale now available on Oppomart. Sometimes leaks are true and when you consider the fact that they released two phones every year except 2014, their first year, you knew it was coming. Cheers

What's your ETA for the Android O update?

So, a few sources say that our devices will receive the Android O update very soon and to pass the time, why not share our expected or assumed OTA roll-out dates? I think that we will receive the update by the end of this month. What about you?

Agreed. I think they will probably release a rollback package or something like that with the original firmware to go along with it (7.0).

Here Are The Facts..
Soapy! said:
Sources say that our devices will receive the Android O update very soon?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-oreo-emui-8-pro-9i-7x/
Have Patience...
Don't Root..

They've said Q1, I'll go with February

entirely irrelevant.... it's coming
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Hua...o-Honor-8-Lite-Honor-9i-and-Honor-7X_id101611

Thanks a lot

optionalmgrr.la said:
entirely irrelevant.... it's coming
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Hua...o-Honor-8-Lite-Honor-9i-and-Honor-7X_id101611
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It's ironic how you say this topic is irrelevant when you only reply with, "it's coming" which indicates absolutely nothing. This is a thread for everyone's expected ETA as the official rollout date is still unannounced. On another note, hopefully I won't deal with dense users like I did on the Le 2 forums, shudders.
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It's coming along with face unlock
Hope camera is tweek'd as well very dull
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From everything that I've read and taking Honor's past into consideration I think we may have to wait until March, which makes little to sense to me.
Why isn't Honor putting a little more effort into marketing this device? I've bought a half a dozen so far, primarily for friends that were still using phones from 3-5 years ago. They all love it and of course, coming from older devices, they feel like this device is a flagship!
Only real thing I miss is NFC, but my watch has it. 2.4 GHz is what I use for everything but my video streaming devices. I really could care less it still has a MicroUSB port.

badmark said:
From everything that I've read and taking Honor's past into consideration I think we may have to wait until March, which makes little to sense to me.
Why isn't Honor putting a little more effort into marketing this device? I've bought a half a dozen so far, primarily for friends that were still using phones from 3-5 years ago. They all love it and of course, coming from older devices, they feel like this device is a flagship!
Only real thing I miss is NFC, but my watch has it. 2.4 GHz is what I use for everything but my video streaming devices. I really could care less it still has a MicroUSB port.
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Your Comments Caught My Eye...
You seem to be a very Nice and Thoughtful friend.. To purchased not only 1 of these devices for yourself.. but to gift over $1,200.00 U.S.D. / 985 EURO's to friends to update their devices.. is truly a friend indeed :good:
Since you are obviously a man of means... what brought you to this budget device in the Honor 7X ?
It's certainly not the fastest..
Or.. has the best display...
Or.. the most RAM..
Why not the View 10, Huawei Mate 10 Pro, One Plus 5T, Pixel, S8, Note 8 ???
What brought a man of your means to the Honor 7X.. I'm really curious to know if you don't mind sharing..

As a software developer I own a plethora of devices and usually carry a minimum of 2 devices. Generally I am very conscious of the condition of my devices and despite the fact the majority of them never leave an office environment, they are all plastered in screen protectors and cases, it seems like they become more fragile every year. The S8 has been my secondary to my Pixel XL 2 since I got it, but as soon as I received the Honor 7X I put the S8 in the drawer. The 7X runs naked and I'm not worried about dropping it. It has enough of what I need. I run package Disabler and remove most of EMUI and Huawei's bloat, with Pixel launcher installed, I have a very close to stock Android on a rugged unit that's as tough as a 90s Nokia!

Oneplus 5 ? Or wait for the 6

As the title suggests I want to upgrade to a oneplus 5 but don't know if I should wait for the six

Do you need a new phone as soon as possible? --> Buy a OnePlus 5/5T
If you can wait and want to show off later --> Buy a OnePlus 6 (or 7 )

The op6 will be launched on june or july, not before
So if you need a phone quickly, buy the 5 or 5T

xdamember143 said:
As the title suggests I want to upgrade to a oneplus 5 but don't know if I should wait for the six
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Personally wouldn't buy another 1+ device, you buy the Oneplus on launch day like i did, obsolete in 5 months, buy the 5T, obsolete come the next quarter.
The 6 will more than likely be followed by the 6T, i'm tired of this, plus the lack of OIS is something i'm never going to commit to again.
So for me, neither, buy the HTC 12 or wait for the next pixel, either way it's not a 1+.
But that's me
PS: if from the 6 onwards it's going to be 1 per year and they fix things like the lack of OIS then yea i'll consider it, but honestly they've burnt their bridges with me at the moment, so long as HTC can actually put out a device with anything close to the battery i get on my 1+5 i'll be happy.

Don't stress! They probably will release Oneplus 5Z in the next week! (Sarcasm)
No but depending on how urgent, wait for the next one. Else go for a 5T

linuxares said:
Don't stress! They probably will release Oneplus 5Z in the next week! (Sarcasm)
No but depending on how urgent, wait for the next one. Else go for a 5T
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It's not as urgent but I really miss stock android and the ability to root and install roms which is a deal breaker for me since I have a device which can't be rooted.

dladz said:
Personally wouldn't buy another 1+ device, you buy the Oneplus on launch day like i did, obsolete in 5 months, buy the 5T, obsolete come the next quarter.
The 6 will more than likely be followed by the 6T, i'm tired of this, plus the lack of OIS is something i'm never going to commit to again.
So for me, neither, buy the HTC 12 or wait for the next pixel, either way it's not a 1+.
But that's me
PS: if from the 6 onwards it's going to be 1 per year and they fix things like the lack of OIS then yea i'll consider it, but honestly they've burnt their bridges with me at the moment, so long as HTC can actually put out a device with anything close to the battery i get on my 1+5 i'll be happy.
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That's what I been thinking also , but I like how oneplus is affordable and usually have more development than other oems

xdamember143 said:
That's what I been thinking also , but I like how oneplus is affordable and usually have more development than other oems
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Actually HTC has more in a lot of cases, the HTC 10 did and precious devices, HTC have always had great development.

dladz said:
Actually HTC has more in a lot of cases, the HTC 10 did and precious devices, HTC have always had great development.
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But HTC is a dying company to be honest ?

xdamember143 said:
But HTC is a dying company to be honest ?
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Lol are you sure mate ? That's been said for some time and yet they're still here not only that but have you actually lived with a HTC phone? When was the last one you owned ? They're absolutely rapid, there is literally nothing bad about the latest phones at all (ish)
The ish is for the one flaw that they always put in, usually the battery but it's the small imperfections which make it have character, the camera has been superb in the last few devices, I've had every flagship bar two the one X and the M8, every other I've had and they've all been amazing bar the one fault
I didn't like the 11 so went with the 1+ but the one thing I'd loved to have had is the camera which is up there with the pixels, the HTC 12 if rumours are to be believed then it'll be a beast, ois, great camera, 845, lot of memory, probably an SD slot.

5/5T are great phones. you won't be disappointed with anything about them (maybe up to 2-3yrs).
there are some concerns with their cameras, but in my opinion, you can take some great shots w/ them, comparable to S8/Note8.
Best Performance, Good Display, Good Cameras, Great Selfie, And a lot of community support... What else you need!?

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5/5T are great phones. you won't be disappointed with anything about them (maybe up to 2-3yrs).
there are some concerns with their cameras, but in my opinion, you can take some great shots w/ them, comparable to S8/Note8.
Best Performance, Good Display, Good Cameras, Great Selfie, And a lot of community support... What else you need!?
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Missing ois, if you've got a tripod all the time the yep it's great, but the lack of ois means it's a deal breaker for me, I didn't think it'd be that bad. Never again man.

As already stated, depends on urgency, features and price. I personally would buy a 5T and not worry about the 6 so much. This is because the 5\5T is fast enough and since you are going to mess around with custom roms and kernels, the ported GCam with portrait mode makes world of a difference to the picture quality. However, even with out GCam, I dont really care too much about picture quality, I dont really take that much pictures anyway. The value for money is already here with the 5\5T and from current trend with OnePlus, the 6 will most likely be more expensive.
To be honest (you would of heard this a million times now), its all about what you want out of your phone and how much you willing to pay for it. There is no one phone that is best for everyone. The thing I will say is one of the best value for money phone is the OnePlus 5T and you will probably get the majority agreeing with that statement.

Just wait for the 6, only 5 month is really a little waiting time

Pho3nX said:
Just wait for the 6, only 5 month is really a little waiting time
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But...8 month for the 6T!
Haha only joking... I agree with y'all 5 or 5T are both great, I do have a lot of fun with mine.

What Are You Replacing Your 2 XL With, And Why?

What device are members wanting, getting, or waiting for, and why?
I'm itching to replace my perfectly working 18 mo old 2 XL, and would like ideas for selecting my next device.
Many users on Xda are way more up to speed on new devices, specs, reviews, and which devices will likely have more dev support than others.
So I figured I'd ask the lot of you 2 XL owners what you're thinking about getting in 2019, or what you're waiting for in 2020.
All opinions are welcome, please be respectful, and understand that everyone has an opinion, and some won't align with yours, and that's okay

Az Biker said:
What device are members wanting, getting, or waiting for, and why?
I'm itching to replace my perfectly working 18 mo old 2 XL, and would like ideas for selecting my next device.
Many users on Xda are way more up to speed on new devices, specs, reviews, and which devices will likely have more dev support than others.
So I figured I'd ask the lot of you 2 XL owners what you're thinking about getting in 2019, or what you're waiting for in 2020.
All opinions are welcome, please be respectful, and understand that everyone has an opinion, and some won't align with yours, and that's okay
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Hey ol buddy. I'm with you, my P2XL is just fine and dandy, also 18 months old. However, new stuff is always fun. Was seriously considering an S10+ but the stupid tear out notch on the screen just turned me off quickly. I'll wait until the Fall and see what the P4 has to offer. I'm a very ANTI NOTCH guy, so, I'll likely be disappointed I'm sure.

The essential 2 looks like it'll be a nice phone. No notch!https://www.techradar.com/news/essential-phone-2-patent-points-to-an-in-screen-camera

I'm waiting for pixel 4xl. If that's not good enough I'll wait until pixel 5xl.
My 2xl is so good tho I have little desire to upgrade.

Probably won't replace the panda 2xl this year. It does everything I need and still performs and looks like a new phone. Also still have 19 months left on the warranty since I got a warranty replacement last October. I'll most likely be interested in the Pixel 4 or 4xl depending on the price and notch situation.
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I have a strange problem with USB port. Charging works, but data transfer doesn't, all the dongles are not working either. In addition, i have a verizon model, so i'm not able to root my device. i'm currently planning to save some money and buy OnePlus 7 when it's released. Also, i live in Russia, and RMA is not available for me. The camera on Pixel is just wonderful, but all these issues ruin the whole thing.

Pixel 4 XL but if Google doesn't step up their hardware game, I'll wait for the S11+.
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Mine just turned a year this month and I don't think I'll replace it until next year. Essential 2, Pixel 4 and Galaxy S10 are interesting to me.

Badger50 said:
Hey ol buddy. I'm with you, my P2XL is just fine and dandy, also 18 months old. However, new stuff is always fun. Was seriously considering an S10+ but the stupid tear out notch on the screen just turned me off quickly. I'll wait until the Fall and see what the P4 has to offer. I'm a very ANTI NOTCH guy, so, I'll likely be disappointed I'm sure.
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Agreed! I'll keep my Pixel 2 XL until Google and mainly Kernel/ROM devs stop supporting it. :good:

Felosis said:
Agreed! I'll keep my Pixel 2 XL until Google and mainly Kernel/ROM devs stop supporting it. :good:
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You betchya Mr. Sound man! :laugh:

Edmontonchef said:
The essential 2 looks like it'll be a nice phone. No notch!https://www.techradar.com/news/essential-phone-2-patent-points-to-an-in-screen-camera
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I would definitely go with Essential 2. I love my Essential with the less annoying notch man-kind has ever seen. Or One+7