Essential PH-1 vs Essential's Next Phone - Essential Phone Questions & Answers

All,
I am in the market for new phone. I am trying to decide what to do. I really the like Essential PH-1 after using both Nexus and Pixel phones. I'm on my backup Nexus6 phone after my Pixel decided to no longer boot.
I am not in a rush to get a new phone and have been doing some research. It appears Essential may be releasing a new phone in the next couple of months.
Would you get the PH-1 or wait it out for the next phone?

WhammyDroid said:
All,
I am in the market for new phone. I am trying to decide what to do. I really the like Essential PH-1 after using both Nexus and Pixel phones. I'm on my backup Nexus6 phone after my Pixel decided to no longer boot.
I am not in a rush to get a new phone and have been doing some research. It appears Essential may be releasing a new phone in the next couple of months.
Would you get the PH-1 or wait it out for the next phone?
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You can always wait for the next thing.
Even if announced in the next few months, it probably won't be avail for another 3 months.
Can you wait six m months before you get a new phone?
If the answer is yes, then wait.

You might have to wait until August. The next phone will have a better camera. It does the job for me.
http://www.businessinsider.com/essential-phone-camera-andy-rubin-2018-4
Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk

Has there been any hint on size of phone? I definitely do not want a phone as large as the Nexus 6. It is just too big.

tech_head said:
You can always wait for the next thing.
Even if announced in the next few months, it probably won't be avail for another 3 months.
Can you wait six m months before you get a new phone?
If the answer is yes, then wait.
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My only issue with getting the PH-1 now is that in another year, Essential will stop sending OS updates. That to me is possibly worth waiting.

WhammyDroid said:
Has there been any hint on size of phone? I definitely do not want a phone as large as the Nexus 6. It is just too big.
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They indicated the 360 camera would still be functional.
I doubt that they are going to increase size dramatically.

WhammyDroid said:
My only issue with getting the PH-1 now is that in another year, Essential will stop sending OS updates. That to me is possibly worth waiting.
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The updates have been fast and furious on the PH-1 so far. And it is sooo much smaller than a Nexus 6. That you will love.
Low light camera is the only downside to PH-1, and I haven't even installed the Google Cam, shame on me.
8.1 is brilliant on this device.

chiadrum said:
The updates have been fast and furious on the PH-1 so far. And it is sooo much smaller than a Nexus 6. That you will love.
Low light camera is the only downside to PH-1, and I haven't even installed the Google Cam, shame on me.
8.1 is brilliant on this device.
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I completely agree. I've only had mine for 3 days, but it's been solid for me, and the form factor is perfect. I'll probably play around with root / camera stuff in the next month, and it's evident that Essential listens and releases updates to try and fix issues. That is rare.

I use the oem camera app for black and white photography which it does brilliantly and the GCam port for everything else, great combo imho. Love the phone, it's superb on 8.1
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Do you have a phone budget? PH-1 has been selling on a discount vs new. The next model will surely be back in the $700+ range. If you want a good daily phone running the latest Android, its not a bad choice. If you arent afraid of lightly used phones, you can get ones in mint condition on swappa for low $300's. Good value if you are into that sort of thing.

rambleon84 said:
Do you have a phone budget? PH-1 has been selling on a discount vs new. The next model will surely be back in the $700+ range. If you want a good daily phone running the latest Android, its not a bad choice. If you arent afraid of lightly used phones, you can get ones in mint condition on swappa for low $300's. Good value if you are into that sort of thing.
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Yeah, I doubt the next phone will be a $400 phone.
They will have learned. They might keep the PH-1 in a single color to have a low end phone, then have the new phone as a flagship.
Who knows? It most definitely won't be this cheap.

I have to agree with the sentiment hare. It's a very good deal right now for a great handset. Updates are better than Sony, which is saying something, and they seem very responsive to fixing issues. Plus, development is just starting to get some traction.

WhammyDroid said:
My only issue with getting the PH-1 now is that in another year, Essential will stop sending OS updates. That to me is possibly worth waiting.
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It really wouldnt shock me to see them adopt the 3 year os update pact that google started with the pixel 2 xl.

aknotts415 said:
It really wouldnt shock me to see them adopt the 3 year os update pact that google started with the pixel 2 xl.
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True, I'm just not sure if I want to take that chance.

tech_head said:
Yeah, I doubt the next phone will be a $400 phone.
They will have learned. They might keep the PH-1 in a single color to have a low end phone, then have the new phone as a flagship.
Who knows? It most definitely won't be this cheap.
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I'm not expecting the phone to be cheap. I want it to be great. I'm really impressed with their design so far and I like the fact that essential is producing better design with the same OS update model.
I do not want another manufacturer because of all the bloatware that is installed.

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Nexus 6P vs Pixel XL

Hey guys, how you all doing?
Just wanted to know your opinion. Currently I am a phoneless guy since my Nexus 5 died a few days ago and since I gave up on the ZTE Axon 7 due to the lack of support from ZTE to the mod community. I am really, really, really eager to finally see what Google is up with the new Pixel phones. Some rumors say that it will be a tough phone to root and mod due to the two partitions for seamless updates and the startup check, etc, etc. That is worrying me a bit. But, since I am a bit desperate to get a new phone, the wait is just cruel, unbearable, excruciating! Yesterday I came across the Nexus 6P, the 128GB version to be more specific, at Amazon. Taking the Nexus 5 as reference, I know that I can rely on the support from the mod community to always have new and updated stuff, since we are talking of a phone that was launched just one year ago. SO, what would you do? Buy a consolidated phone that is the Nexus 6P with tons and tons of mods available, or wait for the Pixel XL?
Sorry for the long text!
Regards!
i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!
rusty-ragster said:
i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!
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I am with Rusty. They said the same thing with iPhone jailbreak (root), Samsung's KNOX, SELinux, locked bootloaders, crazy EEPROM chips, Nexus 6P qfuse, etc...
rusty-ragster said:
i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!
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Huh?
Root on a Pixel or Nexus device?
Unlock the bootloader and flash?
That is the one advantage that has always existed on Google/Nexus devices.
If the bootloader is unlockable, then root is pedestrian at best.
Here is mY 2 cents. I literally know nothing about the new pixel phone as I have no interest in getting it. The only thing I do know that I could suggest is number one HTC is a dying company and I believe that's who makes the phone. It seems to be a love-hate relationship depending on who you talk to but in my opinion they make some of the worst phones available. Number 2 the pixel phone is going to be close to $700 where as the 6p is now selling for under three hundred depending on where you go which is a gigantic difference in price. Again I don't know the specs the ins and the outs of the new pixel phone however a $400 price difference and the name HTC would lead me to say go with the 6p. Remember how well the last HTC Nexus device when? Probably not cuz it was basically a pos that nobody gave a damn about
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Well I know I'm loving 6p big time after finally being able to get one a couple of weeks ago. It's the gold 64gb one and wow, what a phone that will be hard to beat. I'm working twelves and the phone makes it through the whole shift with ghostpepper profile applied. Anyway like previous post what a deal and for the price of pixel, what a steal. Good luck and thank you.
tech_head said:
Huh?
Root on a Pixel or Nexus device?
Unlock the bootloader and flash?
That is the one advantage that has always existed on Google/Nexus devices.
If the bootloader is unlockable, then root is pedestrian at best.
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indeed, but there was an article on the portal about the changes regarding rooting the pixel based on the new partition scheming due to the seamless updates.
Yes guys, I did it! Got a brand new 128GB for 405 euros. Eagerly waiting!
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indeed, but there was an article on the portal about the changes regarding rooting the pixel based on the new partition scheming due to the seamless updates.
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Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
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gibawatts said:
Yes guys, I did it! Got a brand new 128GB for 405 euros. Eagerly waiting!
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Where??
ludovicien said:
Where??
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German Amazon
Seller has 0% positive ratings after 5 transactions. Brave. Good luck.
ludovicien said:
Seller has 0% positive ratings after 5 transactions. Brave. Good luck.
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Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=
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Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=
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Great deal, Congratz! Enjoy your Nexus6 P.
Shaftamle said:
Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
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It's not harder just a new layout. Chain fire will have it working in no time. Don't sweat it.
Shaftamle said:
Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
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i know man seems like google is bringing the nexus out of the dev phone spectrum and is targeting it towards the average consumer now with all of this new pixel branding and stuff i don't understand why though as it took them a long time to make the nexus brand popular and now they are ditching it when it's better than it ever was. :/
gibawatts said:
Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=
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1.8 rating dude...
I just got a €390 128GB Nexus 6P, new. On ebay from a guy who bought it and had a problem. While he waited for the substitution from Google he bought a different phone and wanted to cash back as soon as possible. I was suspicious but the phone arrived in the box, completely sealed and everything was legit. Sometimes you get lucky (and considering I needed it to substitute my Note 3 who got destroyed in a fall, Spigen case and tempered glass protector notwithstanding... I sort of deserved it).
Pixel XL doesn't convince me. Smaller screen first of all. With screens it's relatively easy to go bigger... but going smaller? Not for me.
gorman42 said:
I just got a €390 128GB Nexus 6P, new. On ebay from a guy who bought it and had a problem. While he waited for the substitution from Google he bought a different phone and wanted to cash back as soon as possible. I was suspicious but the phone arrived in the box, completely sealed and everything was legit. Sometimes you get lucky (and considering I needed it to substitute my Note 3 who got destroyed in a fall, Spigen case and tempered glass protector notwithstanding... I sort of deserved it).
Pixel XL doesn't convince me. Smaller screen first of all. With screens it's relatively easy to go bigger... but going smaller? Not for me.
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Yes, some times you get lucky. I didn't! I started asking questions and out of the blue I received an email from Amazon telling me that the guy canceled the the sell because he didn't have the phone . So I promptly bought a 64GB that is fullfiled by amazon, of course.
Got mine less than a month ago. 390 Euros .. the 64Gb version all bran new.
I don't think it's worth paying 700$ for the Pixel XL for the 32Gb version. Didn't see anything worth wasting money on. No major hardware changes that will make that a good deal.

I love this phone!

I have been using the Nexus 6 for a couple of days now and I absolutely love this device. It's the only phone I like that is out now, it's incredible to me how ****ty the phone market is atm. I haven't been that excited to use a device since the Note 7 came out. I got the Nexus 6 used, and now I am even gonna get a brand new one. I could probably rock it for another year until they kill the security patches (so I've heard)
I can't believe I slept on this phone for sooooooo long!!! And to think of all the **** I was using in between, Sony, LG, HTC a few Sammys etc.
I wish the Pixel would've been more similar to the Nexus line. I just realized the potential this line had. Tragic....
Anyone of you totally enamored with this phone as well? Any accessories you can recommend? Any tips and tricks?
In case you want root access etc.
I use a prerooted lite stock rom.
Recently updated to Nougat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/
Cool. I'll definitely check that out!
Ordered Refurb Nexus 6's for the Mrs & I. IMO the best alternative to the Note 7 until something better comes out from Samsung.
Yes the pixel should have been dual speaker and wireless charging standard, especially with those huge bezels. I have no idea when Google will get there head out of there arsesw
I've had my Nexus 6 for almost a year and I absolutely love it also. I would recommend a nice case and a screen protector. Look around for what works for you because at one point I ended up buying around 10 cases and I finally settled on one specific case , https://www.amazon.com/SUPCASE-Google-Unicorn-Premium-Motorola/dp/B00OHFGUDU/ref=sr_1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1477423081&sr=1-4&keywords=nexus+6+case
Its a nice case with good grips on the side. Not badly priced and will take quite a few drops/falls. Skinomi is a good option for a screen protector. I definitely agree with what you previously said. I went with the 64gb version as previously with my Nexus 5 I had the 32gb option and I found I was using most if not at least half of the 32gb at any given time. But regardless of what storage option you chose this is a solid device overall
I am still in love with this phone. I've had it for 2 years now and have no desire to upgrade. Its a pleasure to use. Loud a** speakers , great battery life & it's fluidity. Add it's open nature, this phone is a beast.
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Benzema9 said:
I have been using the Nexus 6 for a couple of days now and I absolutely love this device. It's the only phone I like that is out now, it's incredible to me how ****ty the phone market is atm. I haven't been that excited to use a device since the Note 7 came out. I got the Nexus 6 used, and now I am even gonna get a brand new one. I could probably rock it for another year until they kill the security patches (so I've heard)
I can't believe I slept on this phone for sooooooo long!!! And to think of all the **** I was using in between, Sony, LG, HTC a few Sammys etc.
I wish the Pixel would've been more similar to the Nexus line. I just realized the potential this line had. Tragic....
Anyone of you totally enamored with this phone as well? Any accessories you can recommend? Any tips and tricks?
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What is meant by "I could probably rock it for another year until they kill the security patches"? I'm wanting to buy a Nexus 6, but not if I can only use it for a year.
o-o said:
What is meant by "I could probably rock it for another year until they kill the security patches"? I'm wanting to buy a Nexus 6, but not if I can only use it for a year.
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You can still use the phone for however long you wish Google just stops providing further security updates. 2 years guaranteed whatever happens after that is a plus, Oct 14 is when Nexus 6 was released
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You can still use the phone for however long you wish Google just stops providing further security updates. 2 years guaranteed whatever happens after that is a plus, Oct 14 is when Nexus 6 was released
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Sounds good, thanks for the reply.

Oneplus 5 ? Or wait for the 6

As the title suggests I want to upgrade to a oneplus 5 but don't know if I should wait for the six
Do you need a new phone as soon as possible? --> Buy a OnePlus 5/5T
If you can wait and want to show off later --> Buy a OnePlus 6 (or 7 )
The op6 will be launched on june or july, not before
So if you need a phone quickly, buy the 5 or 5T
xdamember143 said:
As the title suggests I want to upgrade to a oneplus 5 but don't know if I should wait for the six
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Personally wouldn't buy another 1+ device, you buy the Oneplus on launch day like i did, obsolete in 5 months, buy the 5T, obsolete come the next quarter.
The 6 will more than likely be followed by the 6T, i'm tired of this, plus the lack of OIS is something i'm never going to commit to again.
So for me, neither, buy the HTC 12 or wait for the next pixel, either way it's not a 1+.
But that's me
PS: if from the 6 onwards it's going to be 1 per year and they fix things like the lack of OIS then yea i'll consider it, but honestly they've burnt their bridges with me at the moment, so long as HTC can actually put out a device with anything close to the battery i get on my 1+5 i'll be happy.
Don't stress! They probably will release Oneplus 5Z in the next week! (Sarcasm)
No but depending on how urgent, wait for the next one. Else go for a 5T
linuxares said:
Don't stress! They probably will release Oneplus 5Z in the next week! (Sarcasm)
No but depending on how urgent, wait for the next one. Else go for a 5T
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It's not as urgent but I really miss stock android and the ability to root and install roms which is a deal breaker for me since I have a device which can't be rooted.
dladz said:
Personally wouldn't buy another 1+ device, you buy the Oneplus on launch day like i did, obsolete in 5 months, buy the 5T, obsolete come the next quarter.
The 6 will more than likely be followed by the 6T, i'm tired of this, plus the lack of OIS is something i'm never going to commit to again.
So for me, neither, buy the HTC 12 or wait for the next pixel, either way it's not a 1+.
But that's me
PS: if from the 6 onwards it's going to be 1 per year and they fix things like the lack of OIS then yea i'll consider it, but honestly they've burnt their bridges with me at the moment, so long as HTC can actually put out a device with anything close to the battery i get on my 1+5 i'll be happy.
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That's what I been thinking also , but I like how oneplus is affordable and usually have more development than other oems
xdamember143 said:
That's what I been thinking also , but I like how oneplus is affordable and usually have more development than other oems
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Actually HTC has more in a lot of cases, the HTC 10 did and precious devices, HTC have always had great development.
dladz said:
Actually HTC has more in a lot of cases, the HTC 10 did and precious devices, HTC have always had great development.
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But HTC is a dying company to be honest ?
xdamember143 said:
But HTC is a dying company to be honest ?
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Lol are you sure mate ? That's been said for some time and yet they're still here not only that but have you actually lived with a HTC phone? When was the last one you owned ? They're absolutely rapid, there is literally nothing bad about the latest phones at all (ish)
The ish is for the one flaw that they always put in, usually the battery but it's the small imperfections which make it have character, the camera has been superb in the last few devices, I've had every flagship bar two the one X and the M8, every other I've had and they've all been amazing bar the one fault
I didn't like the 11 so went with the 1+ but the one thing I'd loved to have had is the camera which is up there with the pixels, the HTC 12 if rumours are to be believed then it'll be a beast, ois, great camera, 845, lot of memory, probably an SD slot.
5/5T are great phones. you won't be disappointed with anything about them (maybe up to 2-3yrs).
there are some concerns with their cameras, but in my opinion, you can take some great shots w/ them, comparable to S8/Note8.
Best Performance, Good Display, Good Cameras, Great Selfie, And a lot of community support... What else you need!?
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5/5T are great phones. you won't be disappointed with anything about them (maybe up to 2-3yrs).
there are some concerns with their cameras, but in my opinion, you can take some great shots w/ them, comparable to S8/Note8.
Best Performance, Good Display, Good Cameras, Great Selfie, And a lot of community support... What else you need!?
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Missing ois, if you've got a tripod all the time the yep it's great, but the lack of ois means it's a deal breaker for me, I didn't think it'd be that bad. Never again man.
As already stated, depends on urgency, features and price. I personally would buy a 5T and not worry about the 6 so much. This is because the 5\5T is fast enough and since you are going to mess around with custom roms and kernels, the ported GCam with portrait mode makes world of a difference to the picture quality. However, even with out GCam, I dont really care too much about picture quality, I dont really take that much pictures anyway. The value for money is already here with the 5\5T and from current trend with OnePlus, the 6 will most likely be more expensive.
To be honest (you would of heard this a million times now), its all about what you want out of your phone and how much you willing to pay for it. There is no one phone that is best for everyone. The thing I will say is one of the best value for money phone is the OnePlus 5T and you will probably get the majority agreeing with that statement.
Just wait for the 6, only 5 month is really a little waiting time
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Just wait for the 6, only 5 month is really a little waiting time
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But...8 month for the 6T!
Haha only joking... I agree with y'all 5 or 5T are both great, I do have a lot of fun with mine.

What Are You Replacing Your 2 XL With, And Why?

What device are members wanting, getting, or waiting for, and why?
I'm itching to replace my perfectly working 18 mo old 2 XL, and would like ideas for selecting my next device.
Many users on Xda are way more up to speed on new devices, specs, reviews, and which devices will likely have more dev support than others.
So I figured I'd ask the lot of you 2 XL owners what you're thinking about getting in 2019, or what you're waiting for in 2020.
All opinions are welcome, please be respectful, and understand that everyone has an opinion, and some won't align with yours, and that's okay
Az Biker said:
What device are members wanting, getting, or waiting for, and why?
I'm itching to replace my perfectly working 18 mo old 2 XL, and would like ideas for selecting my next device.
Many users on Xda are way more up to speed on new devices, specs, reviews, and which devices will likely have more dev support than others.
So I figured I'd ask the lot of you 2 XL owners what you're thinking about getting in 2019, or what you're waiting for in 2020.
All opinions are welcome, please be respectful, and understand that everyone has an opinion, and some won't align with yours, and that's okay
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Hey ol buddy. I'm with you, my P2XL is just fine and dandy, also 18 months old. However, new stuff is always fun. Was seriously considering an S10+ but the stupid tear out notch on the screen just turned me off quickly. I'll wait until the Fall and see what the P4 has to offer. I'm a very ANTI NOTCH guy, so, I'll likely be disappointed I'm sure.
The essential 2 looks like it'll be a nice phone. No notch!https://www.techradar.com/news/essential-phone-2-patent-points-to-an-in-screen-camera
I'm waiting for pixel 4xl. If that's not good enough I'll wait until pixel 5xl.
My 2xl is so good tho I have little desire to upgrade.
Probably won't replace the panda 2xl this year. It does everything I need and still performs and looks like a new phone. Also still have 19 months left on the warranty since I got a warranty replacement last October. I'll most likely be interested in the Pixel 4 or 4xl depending on the price and notch situation.
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I have a strange problem with USB port. Charging works, but data transfer doesn't, all the dongles are not working either. In addition, i have a verizon model, so i'm not able to root my device. i'm currently planning to save some money and buy OnePlus 7 when it's released. Also, i live in Russia, and RMA is not available for me. The camera on Pixel is just wonderful, but all these issues ruin the whole thing.
Pixel 4 XL but if Google doesn't step up their hardware game, I'll wait for the S11+.
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Mine just turned a year this month and I don't think I'll replace it until next year. Essential 2, Pixel 4 and Galaxy S10 are interesting to me.
Badger50 said:
Hey ol buddy. I'm with you, my P2XL is just fine and dandy, also 18 months old. However, new stuff is always fun. Was seriously considering an S10+ but the stupid tear out notch on the screen just turned me off quickly. I'll wait until the Fall and see what the P4 has to offer. I'm a very ANTI NOTCH guy, so, I'll likely be disappointed I'm sure.
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Agreed! I'll keep my Pixel 2 XL until Google and mainly Kernel/ROM devs stop supporting it. :good:
Felosis said:
Agreed! I'll keep my Pixel 2 XL until Google and mainly Kernel/ROM devs stop supporting it. :good:
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You betchya Mr. Sound man! :laugh:
Edmontonchef said:
The essential 2 looks like it'll be a nice phone. No notch!https://www.techradar.com/news/essential-phone-2-patent-points-to-an-in-screen-camera
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I would definitely go with Essential 2. I love my Essential with the less annoying notch man-kind has ever seen. Or One+7

To buy, or not to buy?

Hello all,
I have a crappy old lg g4. It's really unstable and doesn't preform well.
I am a student so i'm short on cash and I am looking into buying an essential ph-1 but I have heard of numerous issues regarding the touch, crashing, random rebooting, camera and other things. Are these issues common? Are they fixed by custom roms? Or is this phone a minefeild that I should avoid?
I tried to find documentation on this but there is just mentions of it online and it's not clear how widespread they are.
Any answers to clear this up would be appreciated.
Thanks!
adam_s_459_ said:
Hello all,
I have a crappy old lg g4. It's really unstable and doesn't preform well.
I am a student so i'm short on cash and I am looking into buying an essential ph-1 but I have heard of numerous issues regarding the touch, crashing, random rebooting, camera and other things. Are these issues common? Are they fixed by custom roms? Or is this phone a minefeild that I should avoid?
I tried to find documentation on this but there is just mentions of it online and it's not clear how widespread they are.
Any answers to clear this up would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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First, if you're coming from an LG G4 no wonder you're a little paranoid. :cyclops:
To help answer your question, being a student your cash flow is limited so base your choice on intended use and on available price. If you can find an Essential at a relatively good price, it's a good phone with good specs which, as a brand, it's no more susceptible to quirks and ticks than any other name brand. It also has a healthy online community to engage with for questions/support.
In the end though, if you're weighing purchasing a device versus paying a bill or buying a box of ramen and your primary use would be for email/text and begging for boob pictures I'd consider something boring with proven reliability (used Samsung S6 or S7 can be purchased around 100 bucks nowadays). Otherwise, if you have a line on a good, decently priced, Essential and don't have to hang out on street corners for book money after buying ... go for it.
Aimless Rambler said:
First, if you're coming from an LG G4 no wonder you're a little paranoid. :cyclops:
To help answer your question, being a student your cash flow is limited so base your choice on intended use and on available price. If you can find an Essential at a relatively good price, it's a good phone with good specs which, as a brand, it's no more susceptible to quirks and ticks than any other name brand. It also has a healthy online community to engage with for questions/support.
In the end though, if you're weighing purchasing a device versus paying a bill or buying a box of ramen and your primary use would be for email/text and begging for boob pictures I'd consider something boring with proven reliability (used Samsung S6 or S7 can be purchased around 100 bucks nowadays). Otherwise, if you have a line on a good, decently priced, Essential and don't have to hang out on street corners for book money after buying ... go for it.
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Yeah I can get it for like CA$220 so I might just pull the trigger. I'm just doing research right now my plan actually resets in December so if something like a pixel 2 refurbished pops up I'll snag that, but thanks for your responce. (And yeah I'm a lil paranoid)
adam_s_459_ said:
Yeah I can get it for like CA$220 so I might just pull the trigger. I'm just doing research right now my plan actually resets in December so if something like a pixel 2 refurbished pops up I'll snag that, but thanks for your responce. (And yeah I'm a lil paranoid)
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It seems to me you might be better served by a Pixel 3a given its time in the Android life cycle...
I would assume you can score one for only a little bit more than a used PH-1... And not get something with a 2 year old battery
rignfool said:
It seems to me you might be better served by a Pixel 3a given its time in the Android life cycle...
I would assume you can score one for only a little bit more than a used PH-1... And not get something with a 2 year old battery
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I agree and the Pixel 3a should be coming down in price with the release of the Pixel 4 in the next couple months.
mruno said:
I agree and the Pixel 3a should be coming down in price with the release of the Pixel 4 in the next couple months.
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Theses are good points, I'll definitely look into it I never thought about the release cycle of the pixel 4
Thanks!
adam_s_459_ said:
Hello all,
I have a crappy old lg g4. It's really unstable and doesn't preform well.
I am a student so i'm short on cash and I am looking into buying an essential ph-1 but I have heard of numerous issues regarding the touch, crashing, random rebooting, camera and other things. Are these issues common? Are they fixed by custom roms? Or is this phone a minefeild that I should avoid?
I tried to find documentation on this but there is just mentions of it online and it's not clear how widespread they are.
Any answers to clear this up would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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It all comes down to your intended usage and budget. The reality is, most of us do not keep the same device as a daily driver for more than a year. If you want to spend 400 bucks on something you'll be bored with in 6 months despite the initial wow factor then your student cash flow is much better than mine was as a student. In the end, you just need a device which works for your needs.
Aimless Rambler said:
It all comes down to your intended usage and budget. The reality is, most of us do not keep the same device as a daily driver for more than a year. If you want to spend 400 bucks on something you'll be bored with in 6 months despite the initial wow factor then your student cash flow is much better than mine was as a student. In the end, you just need a device which works for your needs.
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I would keep the device for 2 years but I'm looking for the most value for my $300 (CAD) and a device which I won't have issues with . RN I'm torn between the pixel 3a (if the price drops) and Galaxy a50. Either way I'll be happy so I'll just have to see which is cheaper at the time. Thanks!

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