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hi guys
first off...sorry for posting the usual question...its been done to death
i have been out of the xda-dev site for a while and have lost track of things.
i always hoped himalaya linux would get done.... but from what i can see its still lacking the key components (eg phone support under gpe).
i am a uni student on placement at a company that actually writes mobile phone radio stacks...so i am learning embedded c and about the interesting side of the hardware/software interface.... now i want to actually do something about this lack of a fully usable phone.
my questions go as follows..
1> what is the current stage of himalaya linux ... i have a feeling the wiki's are probably out of date
2> is anyone actually still working on it
3> i know only a little about haret i get the idea it is also able to watch hardware (and isnt just a bootloader)...where can i find docs about using it to do this.
4> was jtag ever found on the himalaya
5> of the code in the tree what files are specific to the himalaya
i have much to learn on writing drivers etc for linux...and alot to learn about embedded c, reverse engineering etc....ok so i have a hell of a lot to learn....but i'm willing to try! (i also have 3 himalayas (1 has a bust screen) so plenty of tinkering can be done)
any other tidbits of information would also be appreciated
i think my basic goal would be the phone working.
after that get the other little bits and pieces
get the backpack cf working
get sdio and wireless working.
but these are the kind of goals that will take a long time so we'll see
i'd also love to work on the UI one day.. GPE and OPIE just dont toot my horn enough yet.
thanks
Tim
tim_programmer said:
1> what is the current stage of himalaya linux ... i have a feeling the wiki's are probably out of date
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It is out of date, but some parts are in a good shape.
2> is anyone actually still working on it
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Yes, because it has many common hardware and features with blueangel.
The kernel source is not being fixed, because it is decided to make blueangel
work first, and then reuse and adapt the cleaned code for himalaya.
3> i know only a little about haret i get the idea it is also able to watch hardware (and isnt just a bootloader)...where can i find docs about using it to do this.
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There are no "real" docs, only the source code. Many pxa27x functions are
implemented in haret, that either work or need minor changes for pxa26x.
4> was jtag ever found on the himalaya
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Yes, it's in wiki since 3 years or so
5> of the code in the tree what files are specific to the himalaya
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Blueangel is the authoritative source.
i think my basic goal would be the phone working.
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AFAIK, the phone works. But not with the latest 2.6.18-hh0 kernel.
This one has a lot of audio problems anyway, so it's not a major concern right now.
get the backpack cf working
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It's a bit challenging. The backpack is implemented in so-called ASIC5,
and there are no docs for it.
get sdio and wireless working.
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You mean SDIO wifi card ?
The SDIO host can be done relatively easy, but good luck with the wifi part
I know 2 of them, one with the TI acx100 (should be doable, because
there is linux acx100 driver), another needs the firmware upload in Motorola
SREC format, maybe even prism2.
And there is no free software SDIO for linux, you need to do some heavy RE.
Hello guys,
I have got Himalaya and I would like to help with implementation of some driver/software that is needed.
So I have got a few questions (some of them are similar to tim_programmer's, but I don't know if there are not outdated):
1. Where is the current branch with Himalaya specific code?
I have found:
- K2-6-12-hh2-xda0-ba0 (http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux/linux-2.6-xda/) and
- K2-6-21-hh20 (http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/)
Is himalaya specific code that is in K2-6-12-hh2-xda0-ba0 already included in K2-6-21-hh20?
Or what differences are between these branches?
2. Is somewhere available (SD card/NFS) image with kernel+initrd+GPE that is already running on Himalaya?
I have found:
- http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaLinuxBooting
It boots, but freezes during boot (after some changes in initrd it was possible to connect to the MDA with SSH via USB bus)
- http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaStandaloneGPEWithoutSD
Link to GPE is dead.
- http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Himalaya
There are screenshots of GPE so it should be working image somewhere.
3. Is it posssible to boot some BlueAngel "distribution" on Himalaya? (Possibly with a little changes?)
I have found:
- http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux
Could it be used on Himalaya?
4. What is the current state of Himalaya support in Linux? What is already done and what not (or partially)?
I have found:
- http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaToDo
But there is not mentioned of what branch state it is.
5. Is any other bootloader than HaRET with that is possible to boot to Linux directly from SD card without Windows booting?
I have found:
- bootldr (http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux/linux-2.6-xda/bootldr/)
What is it?
A lot of information about Himalaya development is outdated and I don't know where to start :-( So any help is welcome
Thanks
Drasar
drasar said:
A lot of information about Himalaya development is outdated and I don't know where to start :-( So any help is welcome
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join #htc-linux at freenode.
Thanks for the link..just joined
btw when i start Haret on my Hima..the Thermometer goes up and the eyes go red..and then few lines comes up and thats it..i have tried every thing but cant get Linux to work
waiting for the New Linux Mobile
ather90 said:
btw when i start Haret on my Hima..the Thermometer goes up and the eyes go red..and then few lines comes up and thats it..i have tried every thing but cant get Linux to work
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What kernel have you tried? What was the last message on display? Some old HaRET versions (e.g. 0.3.6) have a problem with big kernel and boot fails on mounting root fs. So try the newest HaRET 0.5.1 that goes fine.
Thankxxx alot..u are rite i have 0.3.6
here is what i have :
haret-0.5.1.exe
initrd-2.6.12.gz
modules-2.6.12.tgz
zImage-2.6.12
are these all latest
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haret-0.5.1.exe
initrd-2.6.12.gz
modules-2.6.12.tgz
zImage-2.6.12
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For kernel 2.6.12, follow How To Compile 4 Himalaya instructions. It works, I have tried it yesterday ;-)
Thanks alot..thankfully i have Ubuntu so compling is no big
i will contact u for more assistance
Hi all,
Just read an artice on the hack of Google's impressive Android mobile OS. Hackers have used files from the emulator and installed the OS on some Linux phones. I was just thinking that there was a post on this forum saying that Linux could be Installed on Magician. Also Android uses Linux's kernal. So why not give Android a try. Would be great to use the new Android on Magician.
Any clues on how to proceed with the Installation ?
Is it really? I listen about porting on only Linux-PDA but Magican isn't Linux-PDA.
Of course, Android can run on the Magician, BUT never forget that you need drivers for the device - even for Linux!
And that's the problem: if you don't have any information about the chipset etc you will need month or even years to develop them.
If you want to run Linux on the Magician, there is already a project which try to develop drivers for Linux. Last time I read from their progress Linux runs on the Magician with the possibility to use the phone (but no GPRS)...
Use the search if you are interested;-)
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If you want to run Linux on the Magician, there is already a project which try to develop drivers for Linux. Last time I read from their progress Linux runs on the Magician with the possibility to use the phone (but no GPRS)...
Use the search if you are interested;-)
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It is http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician , isn't it?
So If Linux can be installed, then Android can also be installed. Because it supports all Linux compatible devices according to the hack.
For the DRIVER part, pls check the official Android website-
http://code.google.com/android/
and let us know. Waiting for your reply...
Thanks!
Peoples - a hve WORKING linux on my HTC magician.
name is Angstorm with GUi OpenMoko.
Work - tochscreen,Sound,GSM,blootuth.
thet meens - drivers are exist and work
Can anybody say, where i can download Google's Androuid for ANY platform ?
I'm Find =) Android For Zaurus
it seems to me, For using rootfs on magician we mast change drivers in it
http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/static.php?page=ZaurusAndroid
As me say one man, it takes compiling magican's drivers using Google android SDK.
Some useful links
Буржуйский форум -> http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=158
ЗАУРУС -> http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/static.php?page=ZaurusAndroid
Cкрины -> http://androidzaurus.seesaa.net/article/75516785.html
Angstrom на Qtek s110 -> http://grigio.org/howto_openmoko_htc_magic...dual_boot_wince
Немного о портировании для OMAP -> http://elinux.org/Android_on_OMAP
Sory for my English =)
does anyone know how to actually download the Android platform? regardless of phone model or drivers? or is it just included in the SDK and you gotta compile it yourself? If I can somehow get my hands on a copy of the image I'll probably end up spending the next 3 weeks trying to flash it natively into the ROM
The Android sources can found on this page: http://code.google.com/p/android/downloads/list
It is only kernel. Without drivers.
Found a new article for search on "Android on HTC", got this:
Android Kernel Found, Android on HTC Kaiser imminent
It says, that the kernal works only on MSM7200A chipset for now.
Take a look, link: http://fandroid.net/content/android-kernel-found-android-htc-kaiser-imminent
what i cannot understand is:
if there is an working linux kernel (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianXanadux) than android should be executable also!?
All necessary driviers shold be available.
So why should it be impossible to have a running android on a Magician?
cheers
aitsch
p.s.: the Magician is a very fast device. maybe android is running well on it.
UPDATE: Google has released a new version of Android, v0.9
Any updates on running Andriod on Magician ?
I could run Linux (Openmoko) successfully.
yea! Android 1.0 it very good
we need this
linux can run on a magician and u can use phone on it but no sms and it's full of bug's
Hi all,
I have tried to download the angstrom linux and follow the instruction from this site http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/....
but I always had kernel panic when start booting the linux, after then I found out the unzipping wasn't successful there is an error occurred during unzipping.
Does anyone ever encounter the error when unzipping? your help would be much appreciated. thank you
wayne
Hi everybody,
are there any news on running android on magican. Did anybody manage to get it running?
w00t!
I for one cannot wait to boot winCE on my Magician! Id love to put ANDROID on it! from what it looks like they are only 80% done!
I have opie II running on magician (http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/)
and it runs perfectly (except a little bug eith the menu).
And here is a list what works in linux (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician)so android should work
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I have opie II running on magician (http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/)
and it runs perfectly (except a little bug eith the menu).
And here is a list what works in linux (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician)so android should work
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Interesting, I'll take a look! What are the bugs you personally notice?
Hi to all,
there is a android rom for P3600 ?
If yes , how is the installation ?
Thanks.
Go Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=311
If your looking for an android rom for your phone, as far as i know there are no roms or emulators to run android on the trinity phone.
Sorry ,
but is not compatible software or hardware of the P3600?
@jaboswell - This section refers to Android on any device...
@zmuda - Have a search around for running android via Haret.exe, I don't believe there are builds for the trinity, so don't expect all the hardware to work.
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@zmuda - Have a search around for running android via Haret.exe, I don't believe there are builds for the trinity, so don't expect all the hardware to work.
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Thanks , i will try.
hi how are you
is it possible to remove operating system (windows mobile) from both of them and replaced with android system?
and if it is possible >>>>can i return back to windows if i want ??
Not at the moment.
mazz377 said:
hi how are you
is it possible to remove operating system (windows mobile) from both of them and replaced with android system?
and if it is possible >>>>can i return back to windows if i want ??
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Please search, or leave XDA.
Thanks (Im going to feel the wrath of a mod for saying that am I not? lol)
Hello. I come from this thread:
Alps FF5000 and other AC8227L chipset head units - updates and solutions
Hello ! I have trouble with bought alps device car head unit FF5000 (model 8227L). System freezes, process com.ts.mainUI8 hanging not allowing to enter and listen any kind of music, dsp worked now just blinks and does nothing, buttons dont work...
forum.xda-developers.com
MCU:TS907.190518(H)
Which helped me a lot. Since I bought a radio on aliexpress ALPS FF-5000 1gbram (real)/16gbrom. That I arrive with a very current firmware and makes the radio work quite slow. After trying various firmware. I can see that the best of all of that thread and the smoothest it works is:
8227L_CHS_UI04-国外10_v3_20191207.rar
I already bought more radios like these from the seller before and they had a different UI than now and they worked frankly well... more fluid. Could someone tell me where to get this UI:
Thank you and continue advancing in this great forum.
albertoak said:
Hello. I come from this thread:
Alps FF5000 and other AC8227L chipset head units - updates and solutions
Hello ! I have trouble with bought alps device car head unit FF5000 (model 8227L). System freezes, process com.ts.mainUI8 hanging not allowing to enter and listen any kind of music, dsp worked now just blinks and does nothing, buttons dont work...
forum.xda-developers.com
MCU:TS907.190518(H)
Which helped me a lot. Since I bought a radio on aliexpress ALPS FF-5000 1gbram (real)/16gbrom. That I arrive with a very current firmware and makes the radio work quite slow. After trying various firmware. I can see that the best of all of that thread and the smoothest it works is:
8227L_CHS_UI04-国外10_v3_20191207.rar
I already bought more radios like these from the seller before and they had a different UI than now and they worked frankly well... more fluid. Could someone tell me where to get this UI:
Thank you and continue advancing in this great forum.
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Hi try with this software from JUNSUN it helped my device, we have simialr ones.
Download firmware from comment area in video and update device.
Then , when updated , go to factory menu with pin code 8888 and adjust settings for device (RADIO MENU , OTHER, DISPLAY and TOUCH STUDY/CANBUS - these two menus - if you must make steering wheel command s to work.).
FOR RADIO MENU :
- if radio.app is stalling or freezes - set OSCILACION to 9,20, FM and AM sense to 21-27, RDS ON, IC TYPE is your chip of radio (do not change that as these if wrong will freeze radio and commands), SORT is RADIO FREQ
- if radio freezes after bootup and wont response at all - try this app :
(just download file and transfer to device, then get in APK installer and install radio from this apk file)
Anton TNT said:
Hi try with this software from JUNSUN it helped my device, we have simialr ones.
Download firmware from comment area in video and update device.
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Thank you. But I'm looking for the UI in the photo of the first post. do you know what version it is?
It's UI3 - Ver. 7 - android 10
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It's UI3 - Ver. 7 - android 10
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where can i get it?
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where can i get it?
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This is the link above (inside youtube video) - read... Click on youtube open in youtube, go to comment area just below (unhide) and download from link there -> ►https://bit.ly/3n3XRWc
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This is the link above (inside youtube video) - read...
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I mean this UI attach
The firmware of the youtube video (UI3 - Ver. 7 - android 10) I already tried it and it slows down the machine too much.
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I mean this UI attach
The firmware of the youtube video (UI3 - Ver. 7 - android 10) I already tried it and it slows down the machine too much.
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well then, I have a two more... just wait will share link (its uploading to my googledisk - about 15 min)
Here it is ... try with that one , this is for XTRONS branded devices
https://drive.google.com/file/d/182WrgQXoXHwJqTM3y3I9_aDjqd31PR5x/view?usp=sharing
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Here it is ... try with that one , this is for XTRONS branded devices
https://drive.google.com/file/d/182WrgQXoXHwJqTM3y3I9_aDjqd31PR5x/view?usp=sharing
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friend. it is another UI that you send me. I keep telling you that I am looking for this UI:
albertoak said:
friend. it is another UI that you send me. I keep telling you that I am looking for this
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I didn't realize , ok, but I will look for this specific firmware for you.
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I didn't realize , ok, but I will look for this specific firmware for you.
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I have this version: 8227L_8鑫瑞畅UI01-国外11_v4_20210705 with that UI that I say I want. But that version of soft on my radio model is very, very slow. it works much better with this one: 8227L_CHS_UI04-10_v3_20191207 . Do you know of a way to extract the UI from the first one and add it to another?
albertoak said:
I have this version: 8227L_8鑫瑞畅UI01-国外11_v4_20210705 with that UI that I say I want. But that version of soft on my radio model is very, very slow. it works much better with this one: 8227L_CHS_UI04-10_v3_20191207 . Do you know of a way to extract the UI from the first one and add it to another
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There is no need to extract anything, firmware is somewhere on this forum or somewhere on clouds services , we just have to find it on net.
Look there for upgrades : https://disk.yandex.ru/d/umCvHqCDzHccr/RockChip PX5 Android 8.0/XRC
From and by this pic inaside this folder your device has maybe XRC not CHS type of firmware, now just we can try to find software that matches UI4 dated year 2019 or early 2020 on the net.
But... I'm not sure wheter your device is PX5 chipset and what android version it has... (according to this picture inside - nb. 1 - UI is similar or that one that you pasted here)
PIC -> https://disk.yandex.ru/d/umCvHqCDzHccr/RockChip PX5 Android 8.0/XRC/XRC1_PX5_8.0_ota_l1.png
Some answers could be find here on these lnks / posts:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ndroid-head-unit.4007063/page-7#post-82217765
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/collection-of-8227l-firmware-android-vers-6-9.4003935/page-1#post-82741349
LAST RESORT: (this is not tested---)
https://android8227lupdates.blogspot.com/2020/04/img-httpsimages.html
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I didn't realize , ok, but I will look for this specific firmware for you.
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Anton TNT said:
Look there for upgrades : https://disk.yandex.ru/d/umCvHqCDzHccr/RockChip PX5 Android 8.0/XRC
From and by this pic inaside this folder your device has maybe XRC not CHS type of firmware, now just we can try to find software that matches UI4 dated year 2019 or early 2020 on the net.
But... I'm not sure wheter your device is PX5 chipset and what android version it has... (according to this picture inside - nb. 1 - UI is similar or that one that you pasted here)
PIC -> https://disk.yandex.ru/d/umCvHqCDzHccr/RockChip PX5 Android 8.0/XRC/XRC1_PX5_8.0_ota_l1.png
Some answers could be find here on these lnks / posts:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ndroid-head-unit.4007063/page-7#post-82217765
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/collection-of-8227l-firmware-android-vers-6-9.4003935/page-1#post-82741349
LAST RESORT: (this is not tested---)
https://android8227lupdates.blogspot.com/2020/04/img-httpsimages.html
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mmm very good information reported partner. How could I find out what chip I have exactly without having to disassemble?
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mmm very good information reported partner. How could I find out what chip I have exactly without having to disassemble?
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Just take a brief video of your device info (about device in infotainment section), just to se what kind of system it is, for chip info we will google it.
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Just take a brief video of your device info (about device in infotainment section), just to se what kind of system it is, for chip info we will google it.
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friend, this is the version that I would need. I have it on another older screen and it works perfectly with the UI that I mentioned. can I somehow extract it from this other screen?
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friend, this is the version that I would need. I have it on another older screen and it works perfectly with the UI that I mentioned. can I somehow extract it from this other screen?
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XRC(H) ok let's find that by googling, which Android version is ? Fake Android 10 (chinese 8.1 oreo)?
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XRC(H) ok let's find that by googling, which Android version is ? Fake Android 10 (chinese 8.1 oreo)?
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How can I see if it is fake android 10? In device information it appears as android 10.