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Just like the title reads I think i did well over a hundred FDR since getting this device mainly out of boredom. Now as of yesterday not sure if its something I did or not but some of the bloatware...mainly amazon apps/motorola apps are not showing up in the my playstore my apps list. Anyone know a fix or reason why?
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Just like the title reads I think i did well over a hundred FDR since getting this device mainly out of boredom. Now as of yesterday not sure if its something I did or not but some of the bloatware...mainly amazon apps/motorola apps are not showing up in the my playstore my apps list. Anyone know a fix or reason why?
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I have cleared the cache also and still nothing.
the_rooter said:
Just like the title reads I think i did well over a hundred FDR since getting this device mainly out of boredom. Now as of yesterday not sure if its something I did or not but some of the bloatware...mainly amazon apps/motorola apps are not showing up in the my playstore my apps list. Anyone know a fix or reason why?
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I am not positive but I don't think they will show up unless they have been updated through the play store. Once they have been updated on your device, they should be there.
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donsmith1964 said:
I am not positive but I don't think they will show up unless they have been updated through the play store. Once they have been updated on your device, they should be there.
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I have had this device since it came out and all the bloatware would show up in the my apps just would show update or disabled if i disabled them. Doesn't even show that.
the_rooter said:
I have had this device since it came out and all the bloatware would show up in the my apps just would show update or disabled if i disabled them. Doesn't even show that.
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My Apps is a record of what you have installed before, not what you have installed currently on the device viewing it.
Therefore, if someone were to say, nuke the bloatware from the list (had it ever been installed from the play store), then it would have to be reinstalled manually to make it back on the list.
Auto-updates when getting a new device don't count for the My Apps list I do not think unless new permissions are required, which requires end user interference to install it.
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My Apps is a record of what you have installed before, not what you have installed currently on the device viewing it.
Therefore, if someone were to say, nuke the bloatware from the list (had it ever been installed from the play store), then it would have to be reinstalled manually to make it back on the list.
Auto-updates when getting a new device don't count for the My Apps list I do not think unless new permissions are required, which requires end user interference to install it.
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Thats odd. When I first got the phone and never had installed any of the bloatware before they showed up on the list. Thanks
the_rooter said:
Thats odd. When I first got the phone and never had installed any of the bloatware before they showed up on the list. Thanks
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Mine did too, but I have had previous Verizon phones which I assume I had manually updated before the days of debloating. I've since cleared them out and they are still not there the last time I looked.
adrynalyne said:
Mine did too, but I have had previous Verizon phones which I assume I had manually updated before the days of debloating. I've since cleared them out and they are still not there the last time I looked.
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they dont show on the list as disabled?
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they dont show on the list as disabled?
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Are we talking about the play store app list or the one on the phone?
If we are talking about the one on the phone this entire time, then this is all easily explained. When you disable an app, it uninstalls any updates you may have applied beforehand.
adrynalyne said:
Are we talking about the play store app list or the one on the phone?
If we are talking about the one on the phone this entire time, then this is all easily explained. When you disable an app, it uninstalls any updates you may have applied beforehand.
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the play store app list would normally show apps that were disabled on there...aka the motorola/verizon/amazon
the_rooter said:
the play store app list would normally show apps that were disabled on there...aka the motorola/verizon/amazon
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I've never seen that, but probably because I've always uninstalled play store apps and not.disabled them.
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I've never seen that, but probably because I've always uninstalled play store apps and not.disabled them.
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thats wierd but ok. thanks
I posted the message below on the Amazon device forum but most folks on there don't seem to know how to turn things on so I'm hoping I get sensible help here:
My fire HD 8 (2017) has suddenly stopped me opening games. Bad piggies and cut the rope, both installed from the Amazon store and worked last week.
I just tried to open them and get a message saying I need to turn on Amazon Underground data tracking. I tap the button to allow and it takes me to the settings menu ( as per screenshot).
There's no menu with this option, I also thought the underground app had been discontinued. I can't find the option in the app store or the Amazon games app.
Any one else has the same problem? Googling just refers to the old underground app.
My reply to the helpful "Have you tried restarting" from Amazon support.
I've tried restarting and holding the power button down but still the same. I also tried uninstalling one of the apps and reinstalling.
My fire is on version 5.6.2.0 (I'm in the UK but the show mode isn't activated yet).
This new version seems to have a lot of bugs. I was impressed with the tablet before but now I'm seeing slow down doing certain tasks. I have the permanent "Alexa Devices" notification. When the wifi disconnects I get 3 notifications about alarms and reminders until wifi reconnects. Now I can't use some Amazon app store apps.
Any ideas?
Cheers
Gregsy said:
I posted the message below on the Amazon device forum but most folks on there don't seem to know how to turn things on so I'm hoping I get sensible help here:
My fire HD 8 (2017) has suddenly stopped me opening games. Bad piggies and cut the rope, both installed from the Amazon store and worked last week.
I just tried to open them and get a message saying I need to turn on Amazon Underground data tracking. I tap the button to allow and it takes me to the settings menu ( as per screenshot).
There's no menu with this option, I also thought the underground app had been discontinued. I can't find the option in the app store or the Amazon games app.
Any one else has the same problem? Googling just refers to the old underground app.
My reply to the helpful "Have you tried restarting" from Amazon support.
I've tried restarting and holding the power button down but still the same. I also tried uninstalling one of the apps and reinstalling.
My fire is on version 5.6.2.0 (I'm in the UK but the show mode isn't activated yet).
This new version seems to have a lot of bugs. I was impressed with the tablet before but now I'm seeing slow down doing certain tasks. I have the permanent "Alexa Devices" notification. When the wifi disconnects I get 3 notifications about alarms and reminders until wifi reconnects. Now I can't use some Amazon app store apps.
Any ideas?
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Could it be, that the apps just weren't updated since the Underground closure?
Maybe that one is on the devs, not on you or Amazon.
Hi Creeju,
I've figured it out, there's an option in the menus to turn on data tracking, nothing to do with the underground apps. Its in the security and privacy menu -> app data tracking.
I'll post a screenshot later when I'm back on the tablet. Amazon support eventually replied to an email and said it was in the "Apps and Games" menu, it's not.
Edit: Screenshot added, it's the "Collect App Usage Data" option
Thank you for this info! My son brought his tablet to me this morning with the same problem and I couldn't for the life of me figure out where this setting was.
Same Issue, I am having the same issue. I'd already found the setting in security tab
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Hi Creeju,
I've figured it out, there's an option in the menus to turn on data tracking, nothing to do with the underground apps. Its in the security and privacy menu -> app data tracking.
I'll post a screenshot later when I'm back on the tablet. Amazon support eventually replied to an email and said it was in the "Apps and Games" menu, it's not.
Edit: Screenshot added, it's the "Collect App Usage Data" option
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I am having the same issue. I'd already found the setting in security tab, but it is already turned on, so I'm still getting the same message and can't play the games that I purchased my fire to play. I should have just bought an android tab!!!
I bought a Fire HD 8 to put on my wall and see who's at my door using the Ring app. To do so, I installed the Play Store on it, installed the Ring app, and that works. The issue I have with the app is that I don't get any notifications from it. I already looked at all notifications settings and the notifications aren't blocked for the app. I then tried to install IFTTT on the tablet, and created a rule to send notifications whenever something happen from Ring. It works on my other devices, but again nothing on this device. I then tried to install Facebook Messenger from the Play Store, and same thing no notifications. If I install it from the Amazon store it works.
Anyone else saw a similar issue?
Thanks!
I'm seeing the same thing on my 8th gen HD 8; no notifications. I've tried Ring and Hangouts, neither work on the HD 8 2018, but work fine on my HD 10. Has anyone figured this out?
Edit:. To be a bit more specific it seems only apps which get pushed a realtime notification to them like Ring does when it senses motion don't work. But apps that are pulling data like Gmail or my Nine email client, these notifications are working just fine.
I'm getting the same issue, anyone had any luck getting this to work?
Same issue for me too... Fire HD 10
I am receiving notifications on one fire 8 hd but on fire 7, I I don't. Both running same os.
Ring notifications are not compatible with HD fire tab
I've been working with Ring and this is their reply,
"Thank you for your follow up. At this time, I have investigated further on your behalf for this issue and found that your Amazon HD 8 Tablet is not compatible with all of our features. Our application is designed to operate on Android and iOS (iPhones). Many tablets are built with Android operating systems. However, your tablet being the Amazon Fire HD 8, it is designed and operates on FireOS made by Amazon.
This software is not completely compatible with our Ring app. Because we do not design our app for that platform, some of our features simply do not connect with the operating system. In this case, FireOS does not allow the Ring app to produce notifications to the main screen. We do apologize, this device will not function like iPhones and standard Android based tablets.
At this moment, I am sorry to advise, but notifications to the Amazon Fire HD 8 Tablet, or any other Amazon tablet, will not be completely compatible as they operate on FireOS.
If you have any other questions or concerns, please let me know so I may assist you further.
Thank you for your time and for being one of our neighbors here at Ring! "
Just a quick update on what I found out. If I install Facebook Messenger from the Amazon store, then I do get notifications. As soon as it gets updated by the Google Play store, I stop receiving them. I'm not sure if it's really related or just having bad luck but I am curious to know if others that saw the same issue with Ring also have this behavior.
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Just a quick update on what I found out. If I install Facebook Messenger from the Amazon store, then I do get notifications. As soon as it gets updated by the Google Play store, I stop receiving them. I'm not sure if it's really related or just having bad luck but I am curious to know if others that saw the same issue with Ring also have this behavior.
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Not surprised as the different builds likely leverage native frameworks to assist with notifications. The four components used to secure basic Play Store functionality does constitute a full Google Play Services config.
Davey126 said:
Not surprised as the different builds likely leverage native frameworks to assist with notifications. The four components used to secure basic Play Store functionality does constitute a full Google Play Services config.
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Is there anything we can do to make push notifications work? I don't get any notifications from Play Store installed apps (ex: FB Messenger, Instagram, Pushbullet, etc).
tarade said:
Is there anything we can do to make push notifications work? I don't get any notifications from Play Store installed apps (ex: FB Messenger, Instagram, Pushbullet, etc).
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Probably not as many apps (at least the varients installed from the Play Store) utilize Google Play Services for notifications. The GPS framework needs to be flashed which is all but impossible on a bootloader locked, unrooted device.
Davey126 said:
Probably not as many apps (at least the varients installed from the Play Store) utilize Google Play Services for notifications. The GPS framework needs to be flashed which is all but impossible on a bootloader locked, unrooted device.
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Boooo. Thanks though, for the reply and explanation.
I just realized I have this issue too, with no notifications from Hangouts, and sporadic notifications from Telegram X, until I open the actual app, and I am flooded with notifications. I have a suspicion that it has something to do with GCM/FCM (Firebase Cloud Messaging) and something about Fire OS not letting apps sit in the background to allow for push notifications. I read this article here that says that certain OEMs don't let apps run in the background and that muddles with the notifications. Can anyone get anywhere with this? I will try whitelisting apps in the hidden Battery Optimization menu that you have to launch with Activity Launcher by opening the Battery menu and then launching the Battery Optimization menu from that.
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I just realized I have this issue too, with no notifications from Hangouts, and sporadic notifications from Telegram X, until I open the actual app, and I am flooded with notifications. I have a suspicion that it has something to do with GCM/FCM (Firebase Cloud Messaging) and something about Fire OS not letting apps sit in the background to allow for push notifications. I read this article here that says that certain OEMs don't let apps run in the background and that muddles with the notifications. Can anyone get anywhere with this? I will try whitelisting apps in the hidden Battery Optimization menu that you have to launch with Activity Launcher by opening the Battery menu and then launching the Battery Optimization menu from that.
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Hi, any update on how this worked for you? You mentioned you were going to try disabling battery optimization.
I have same issue. no notifications with app installed through Google Play Store.
Fire Tablet HD8 gen10
When I check the notifications, Fireos indicated the app has never issued any notifications.
Anyone found a solution?
My fire hd 10 (2021) does receive email and generates email notifications when screen is off. It will not receive google voice notifications though.
Can you configure ring to email a particular email address (probably different from your regular one) which is then checked on the tablet using push (imap). This doesn't fix the problem but does is a suitable work around. Use a distinct sound so you know it's something from ring.
To find a suspected issues on your Fire tablet by executing adb shell logcat
any fix to this yet? it's bumming me out since i bought a fire tablet specifically for gmail, discord, and other apps that needed notifs. and majority of those apps aren't even on the amazon app store.
Same here
Its hilarious that this works without problems on my Fire HD 10 2017. But its soooo slow, thats why i got a HD 10 2021 now. Just to see that gmail notifications are not working anymore. I wonder if it would work if i manually install the older gmail app version and google required apps from the 2017 instead using the latest ones for the 2021.
Google Calendar and Business Calendar Pro Notifications still work. But the Problem is Gmail.
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Its hilarious that this works without problems on my Fire HD 10 2017. But its soooo slow, thats why i got a HD 10 2021 now. Just to see that gmail notifications are not working anymore. I wonder if it would work if i manually install the older gmail app version and google required apps from the 2017 instead using the latest ones for the 2021.
Google Calendar and Business Calendar Pro Notifications still work. But the Problem is Gmail.
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tell us if anything works. any change can lead to a clue on how to make it work.
So it looks like there are many people having issues with the battery optimization feature, which lets me guess oneplus is already aware of the problem. My question is if there is a way to disable the optimization completely for now until oneplus has sorted things out.
Since the last update it is so aggressive, it kills youtube's connection to my chromecast every few minutes, rendering all control features unuseable as I always have to reconnect before I can do anything. This also makes my wearOS watch unuseable as it also depends on the phone keeping the connections alive.
You can turn off Optimization for YouTube and WearOS
Settings > Apps & Notifications > Special app access
You can turn off optimization for any app, and see the advanced in the 3 dot menu. I had the same problem with my watch, turned off the watch app and helper, now works great. I also turned off messenger, no problems now.
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I also would like to know if this is possible in an easy way. I don't want to disable it for 256 apps independently.
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You can turn off Optimization for YouTube and WearOS
Settings > Apps & Notifications > Special app access
You can turn off optimization for any app, and see the advanced in the 3 dot menu. I had the same problem with my watch, turned off the watch app and helper, now works great. I also turned off messenger, no problems now.
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Thanks for the reply!
That setting was the first thing I checked and already disabled optimization for the wearOS and cast apps which work fine now. Unfortunately it won't let me disable it for the youtube app as it handles that one as a system app. As long as youtube is not allowed in the background wearOS has nothing to communicate with so I still can't control it.
That's why my next thought was if I can't disable it for system apps maybe there is a way to completely disable it until oneplus has the problem solved. I know that solution would suck but at the moment I am forced to use another phone to use youtube properly which sucks even more imo.
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Thanks for the reply!
That setting was the first thing I checked and already disabled optimization for the wearOS and cast apps which work fine now. Unfortunately it won't let me disable it for the youtube app as it handles that one as a system app. As long as youtube is not allowed in the background wearOS has nothing to communicate with so I still can't control it.
That's why my next thought was if I can't disable it for system apps maybe there is a way to completely disable it until oneplus has the problem solved. I know that solution would suck but at the moment I am forced to use another phone to use youtube properly which sucks even more imo.
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I wonder if the system mover app works on Pie and YouTube? I didn't realize YouTube was a system app since it's from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover
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I wonder if the system mover app works on Pie and YouTube? I didn't realize YouTube was a system app since it's from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover
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I would love to try this but I am unrooted. Youtube should be on the list but it is not, I am guessing that is because it comes preinstalled, the playstore app isn't there as well for example.
I know this is an old thread, but the more I use my new phone, the more I believe this to be the issue with my Gmail app constantly putting my Exchange accounts back to 30 minute fetch. And, I cannot disable battery optimization on Gmail because it's a system app (and I do not want to root). For now, every other day, I have to tell the device that it really is OK for Gmail to remain constantly connected to my Exchange account, that I actually prefer it to be. I've made it to 54 hours with my normal use (OVER 7 HRS S.O.T), not trying to stretch it at all, no battery saving features on whatsoever. So it's safe to say I can afford for Gmail to stay connected with Exchange. The optimization is a bit too aggressive for not allowing system apps to be excluded.
I've also had issues with Google Assistant not reminding me about reminders that are clearly in the list of her reminders, and I think this to be the culprit as well, and again, can't disable it because it's not on the list.
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I know this is an old thread, but the more I use my new phone, the more I believe this to be the issue with my Gmail app constantly putting my Exchange accounts back to 30 minute fetch. And, I cannot disable battery optimization on Gmail because it's a system app (and I do not want to root). For now, every other day, I have to tell the device that it really is OK for Gmail to remain constantly connected to my Exchange account, that I actually prefer it to be. I've made it to 54 hours with my normal use (OVER 7 HRS S.O.T), not trying to stretch it at all, no battery saving features on whatsoever. So it's safe to say I can afford for Gmail to stay connected with Exchange. The optimization is a bit too aggressive for not allowing system apps to be excluded.
I've also had issues with Google Assistant not reminding me about reminders that are clearly in the list of her reminders, and I think this to be the culprit as well, and again, can't disable it because it's not on the list.
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Having exactly same problems with gmail and chrome (html5 push notifications). I am rooted. So I am considering to mark those apps as non system apps, but still not sure if this won't brake future updates or something.
Is there a way to get Google apps (voice, gchat, gmail, etc) to have working notifications on the 2019 HD 10? I have searched around and see others with the problem, but I did not see any solutions. I installed Google Account Manager v7.1.2, Google Services Framework v9-4832352, Google Play services 20.15.15, and Google Play Store 19.8.15 after a factory reset. Notifications will not work. With Voice, I can have the app open with the screen on and it will not notify or display a new message until it is "refreshed" (leaving the current conversation and going back to the list, etc will then show the new message). Thanks for any help.
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Is there a way to get Google apps (voice, gchat, gmail, etc) to have working notifications on the 2019 HD 10? I have searched around and see others with the problem, but I did not see any solutions. I installed Google Account Manager v7.1.2, Google Services Framework v9-4832352, Google Play services 20.15.15, and Google Play Store 19.8.15 after a factory reset. Notifications will not work. With Voice, I can have the app open with the screen on and it will not notify or display a new message until it is "refreshed" (leaving the current conversation and going back to the list, etc will then show the new message). Thanks for any help.
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You have to disable the battery optimization or doze.
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You have to disable the battery optimization or doze.
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Could you explain further? I did disable battery optimization for each Google app that I installed (including the 4 to get Google apps on the tablet). It did not seem to make a difference. Even with the app open and screen on, I cannot get it to make a notification sound.
I have the same problem, no ring or notifications. No battery optimization find and turned on all the notifications on every setting i can find, but still not working. Any other ideas? Thanks!
Mary8 said:
I have the same problem, no ring or notifications. No battery optimization find and turned on all the notifications on every setting i can find, but still not working. Any other ideas? Thanks!
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You can use Activity Launcher:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.szalkowski.activitylauncher
Open Activity Launcher -> scroll down for Settings -> select Battery
Press the vertical 3 dots and select Battery optimization -> Google -> select Not Optimized
If Google notifications didn't work, your Fire HD 10 is terrible. Migrate your valuable files to a new Android device and turn your terrible Fire HD 10 into Android app debugger, digital clock, photo frame, Echo Show (Alexa), or MIDI device.
Yes! Agree! Amazon Fire HD 10 is no good!!!! Since i cannot return it now, i try to make it work. Why didn't Amazon just use the latest Android? Fire OS is so primitive and full of bugs. I tried everything i could find online, turned off battery saver and turned on notifications for all apps, but still does not work right. Fire OS is so stupid!!!! I had to go through each app because i could not find a way to do it easier, very frustrating!!!! Now i am getting some notifications, but hours or even a day later!!!!! They must work for some people. Please share how you make them work. Thank you very much!
as it is, Fire HD10 2019 will not show notifications from Google services. u can installl the apk files and get Play Store up n running. but Fire OS is missing other android framework so notification will not work consistently.
there is no bootloader unlock for HD10 2019 right now. IF that is unlocked in the future AND a custom ROM like Lineage is ported in, then chance of notification working will be much higher.
Amazon sells its Fire tablets mostly for consumption of its digital content. dats why the HD10 does not even have Play Store. getting anything beyond that to run is a bonus. u can use the tablet as-is or get a full android tab: walmart has a few around the same price range. good luck!