hey everyone...new to the forum here...got a question, as my aging (and somewhat failing minix u9-h) im looking into getting a shield pro and have done a bit of research here and there, but not too sure which one i should get, maybe i can get some clarity here....gaming on it is not really a priority as the main use for it will be streaming, should i: (a) get the 15'-17' model with the hdd and mod it with an ssd? (b) get the '17 pro model with the smaller form factor and 16gb flash memory, or (c) the 19' pro model? also, if i went with the '19 model will i be able to root it and flash a custom ROM on it, or is it that much of a powerhouse its not really necessary and in doing so i may lose some features from it (ie. AI scaling)....any help in this matter will be appreciated. thank you in advance.
I have the 2017 non pro model (usb stick and HD can be used for storage) and it is great.
There is no need for custom rom's on this device.
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I plan on picking up a dell venue pro 11 tablet (Baytrail) and was wondering how hard is it to dual boot these tablets? Id like to get android on. Is there a general thread out there?
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I plan on picking up a dell venue pro 11 tablet (Baytrail) and was wondering how hard is it to dual boot these tablets? Id like to get android on. Is there a general thread out there?
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The asus t100 thread might be relevant. The hardware is near identical.
In its current state, its not looking good. But unlike on the RT tablets and the clovertrail tablets, things do actually attempt to boot, so there is promise for the near future. Android you can get to boot fully, but its unusably slow and buggy.
One of the most used software is Bluestacks which is alright but not excellent, and it runs it sort of like a VM. Not sure you can actually Dual Boot it unless you buy a Dual OS device such as the Asus Transformer Book Trio, there was a Dual Booting software in the works which look promising but there's no news on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6mYtnz9VQs
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I plan on picking up a dell venue pro 11 tablet (Baytrail) and was wondering how hard is it to dual boot these tablets? Id like to get android on. Is there a general thread out there?
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give me $450 to buy a dell venue pro 11, and I'll get started on it as well
wait for someone with some technical skills and try and post their results... hopefully it's not as bad as the T100
with the t100 you can get into an efi like in this video too boot linux from an usb stick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsp8XFcAS7o
so it should be possible to install different OSs maybe one with a bootloader. shouldn't be to much different on the venue pro because win 8.1 kind of recommends it.
Does anyone know if the venue pro 11 baytrail version has soldered emmc memory or a msata solution for internal storage? i also would like to upgrade to 4gigs of ram to use it as replacement for my old notebook (2gig with no dedicated memory for graphics are really not what i'm hoping for)
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with the t100 you can get into an efi like in this video too boot linux from an usb stick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsp8XFcAS7o
so it should be possible to install different OSs maybe one with a bootloader. shouldn't be to much different on the venue pro because win 8.1 kind of recommends it.
Does anyone know if the venue pro 11 baytrail version has soldered emmc memory or a msata solution for internal storage? i also would like to upgrade to 4gigs of ram to use it as replacement for my old notebook (2gig with no dedicated memory for graphics are really not what i'm hoping for)
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Memory on all the windows tablets so far has been soldered.
Storage I dont know.
Storage != Memory.
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with the t100 you can get into an efi like in this video too boot linux from an usb stick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsp8XFcAS7o
so it should be possible to install different OSs maybe one with a bootloader. shouldn't be to much different on the venue pro because win 8.1 kind of recommends it.
Does anyone know if the venue pro 11 baytrail version has soldered emmc memory or a msata solution for internal storage? i also would like to upgrade to 4gigs of ram to use it as replacement for my old notebook (2gig with no dedicated memory for graphics are really not what i'm hoping for)
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It will most likely will come with a soldered memory making it really hard to be user replaceable, as far as I'm aware the Bay trail configuration only comes with 2gb RAM, but that might change in a couple days (November 7th) when this tablet is released. I'd suggest you check prices over at Amazon and Walmart since they're offering the 8 Pro at cheaper prices than Dell.
Hey guys so I have been working on a way to fix our android issues. Currently this is still a proof of concept thing, but I have a sort of dual boot going. I have made a video of it in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyLgvlgpExY
Basically it is still really crude, but it is running in virtual box with a program called Genymoiton. It is decently fluid, but the 3D acceleration does not work (I am working on a fix) and the click and hold is still a little buggy because it does not register the tablet as a touchscreen, it does only clicks. This is also being worked on, but hopefully my goal here is to have both systems running inside of each other, so that we can have quick access to both. I will keep you guys posted with what else I can do, and I will probably put up another video sometime soon.
I got the i5 version of the Dell Venue 11 Pro
I'm dual booted between Windows 8 and Android using:
http://consoleos.com/
i want to install android on ativ 3 , is that possible? , what version do you guys recommend? has anyone tried that? Thank you!
here you can see it
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Wow, it seems i bought a nono... it seems no one has it or ever heard of it...
It does indeed seem that way. Since it runs "real" Windows you can probably use something like BlueStacks on it? Actually installing Android (and having it work) will require driver support in Android which may not exist; even fairly popular Windows tablet lines like the Surface Pro family have driver troubles in Android.
I've been doing a lot of research on this tablet. Ended up picking up a refurb for $250, and with 64GB I'd like to do a dual boot if possible.
However, looking at Wikipedia, there isn't a single tablet with the Atom Z2760 with Android. They're all running Windows 8.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(system_on_chip)
I'm an amateur developer, finishing up my CS degree this Spring. If someone more experienced than me thinks this is actually possible, I'll look into trying to make it happen. If there are any resources that may be relevant, post them or send me a PM.
I own a Samsung ATIV Tab 3 as well. I have not been using it since after updating to windows 10 it has become extremely slow. On the other hand I really like the pen and its responsiveness.
Have you found any way to install android or another light OS?
Ideally I would like to utilize the device as a digital notepad.
Currently, there are Bliss OS or Prime OS but I am testing Prime OS, I don't expect straightforward and easy installation but let's hope for the best...
@UserBroskyXDA, have you been successfull with Prime OS ? I have windows 10 running on my machine and its extremely slow.
Hey guys,
I'm considering the Acer Iconia Tab W4-820 tablet (8" / x86 Atom Z3740 / W8 / 2GB RAM) since it's really cheap now. It could replace my netbook which would be sweet, but I also need an Android tablet for some work.
Is there a way to dual-boot this thing with both W8 and droid?
Even better, is there a way to dual-boot this thing with some reasonable Linux distro and droid, without W8? Honestly I weren't even looking into touch-capable Linux distros yet.
I've been looking but information seems very scarce or none for this particular tablet. I found someone dual-booting other Acer tablets, and found some Acer support article about being able to boot their tablets into another OS by using a USB-LAN adapter and booting from LAN, but not sure if either of those would work with W4. Also I don't have a USB-LAN adapter so something simpler would be nice.
Thanks in advance for any info.
Yes and no. It depends on what you want. If it's Windows 8.1 and Android, possible.
Do it with your own risk, I'm not responsible for any damage.
Lets get started...
First Acer W4 820 is Bay Trail based, i.e. Atom z3740 is Bay Trail (confirm by searching in Google and navigate to Intel website details on the processor). The tab has 2GB RAM, which is more than enough. An internal space of 8GB is required (to install Android). Backup the existing OS and valuable data as Android installation is slightly unstable (do not worry, very rarely goes wrong but no idea about camera). A laptop or desktop is optional but a good practise.
Now goto the following website and read the guidelines
01.org/android-ia/guides/quick-start
and read the guidelines, it's not listed for this tab, so read general guidelines.
Next goto the following website
01.org/android-ia/downloads
and download the required version of Android for "Bay Trail". Follow the steps in the quick guidelines website to install, and you're completed installation.
:angel: An advise, Android is for light usage, not at all like Windows tab.
Thanks. I know the process but in the meantime I gave up on it and bought a cheapo droid tablet instead. I need droid for some work (related to mobile Chrome) and thought the win tablet could be a replacement for my old Eee 901.
But I couldn't find any report about anyone having success with installing an alternative OS on the W4 - quite the opposite in fact, someone reported that the method did not work on W4. And since I definitely didn't want to pay any money just to have a W8 machine, I didn't buy it. Every time I want to buy a mobile computer I decide upgrade of the desktop is a better investment. In this case SSD > tablet.
So my nearest project will be to install some proper Linux on that new droid tablet
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Hey, all!
I'm looking into buying a shield tv. I'm experienced in rooting phones but never had a shield TV.
Which is the best when it comes to rooting and support? 2015, 2017 (16GB or 500GB) or 2019?
I've heard negative things about the 500GB version. I'd really like to have one with an SD card slot but my most important criteria is root support and custom roms.
Please guide me in the right direction and thank you.
Edit: Is the 2015 model too old or is it still viable in 2019/2020?
Found this apparently interesting TV box more or less recently. It's sold at a very attractive price, and can be bought in configurations with up to 8 GiB of RAM and 128 GB of storage, so I guess that it must come with a 64-bit operating system or firmware. And well, according to “REVIEW: X88 PRO 20 a low-cost Android TV-Box with SoC Rockchip RK3566 @ AndroidpcTV”, the TV box's firmware supports the arm64_v8a ABI, so 64-bit yes.
About this box I only found the thread “X88 pro 20 RK3566” opened close to a year ago, but it contains just a confusing question and no further information.
So, may some of you provide feedback about this TV box? It looks appealing, but of course I need to be able to root it; this is the single most important factor. Once rooted, any limitations in the stock ROM can be fixed and it also is fully customizable; just hope it is stable, of course.
Can someone provide information on rooting this box? Custom firmwares?
Thank you.
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Found this apparently interesting TV box more or less recently. It's sold at a very attractive price, and can be bought in configurations with up to 8 GiB of RAM and 128 GB of storage, so I guess that it must come with a 64-bit operating system or firmware. And well, according to “REVIEW: X88 PRO 20 a low-cost Android TV-Box with SoC Rockchip RK3566 @ AndroidpcTV”, the TV box's firmware supports the arm64_v8a ABI, so 64-bit yes.
About this box I only found the thread “X88 pro 20 RK3566” opened close to a year ago, but it contains just a confusing question and no further information.
So, may some of you provide feedback about this TV box? It looks appealing, but of course I need to be able to root it; this is the single most important factor. Once rooted, any limitations in the stock ROM can be fixed and it also is fully customizable; just hope it is stable, of course.
Can someone provide information on rooting this box? Custom firmwares?
Thank you.
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I have one, and the only method for rooting is installing another rom, I think the rom with root is the "hk1-rbox-r2-RK3566_DC_R2_HK5235F_11_20210705.1409", but the T95 Plus and H96 Max rom also works (but it doesn't have root), other thing you can do is flash a linux debian using the tutorial described in the forum t95plus.com, but sadly my x88 pro 20 is defective, every app I open (while using android) crashes after some time, and while in linux firefox keeps crashing, I don't know what's the issue, and since so few people have this box I can't find anyone else having this problem
Thanks for contributing, GamingSoldier. My interest in this box sort of vanished, mainly because I was just finding a good TV box solution to pair with an old good TV which I have lying around for someone else, and that someone else decided to buy a new inexpensive set… Of course, suffice to say these people must not be aware of the very limited Android system they are getting, or of how much better it could be.
Anyway, I digged on the subject of rooting without a custom recovery, and found the following very helpful video and article:
Extract Boot.Img Directly From Device Without Downloading Firmware @ DroidWin
This pretty much enables rooting of any device with minimum hassle.
Besides this, I'd love to know if the ROM of this device is stable and works well. I understand you are probably not going to say much in this respect, GamingSoldier; unless you get a new one, that is.
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Thanks for contributing, GamingSoldier. My interest in this box sort of vanished, mainly because I was just finding a good TV box solution to pair with an old good TV which I have lying around for someone else, and that someone else decided to buy a new inexpensive set… Of course, suffice to say these people must not be aware of the very limited Android system they are getting, or of how much better it could be.
Anyway, I digged on the subject of rooting without a custom recovery, and found the following very helpful video and article:
Extract Boot.Img Directly From Device Without Downloading Firmware @ DroidWin
This pretty much enables rooting of any device with minimum hassle.
Besides this, I'd love to know if the ROM of this device is stable and works well. I understand you are probably not going to say much in this respect, GamingSoldier; unless you get a new one, that is.
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I don't know if the rom is stable, because my x88 has a hardware issue that keeps making apps crash, and it's not the software because I tested multiple ROMS and all of them cause this issue, about the magisk, I already know the app, but the magisk is unable to patch the rockchip boot.img
Well GamingSoldier, it's clear that you would need to get a new RK3566 X88 Pro 20 for testing its ROM, or at least fix the problem your box has if you are able. Speaking of which, did you open the box to check inside already? Because the problem could be something simple to fix like improper SoC cooling or some electronic component. After all, if the box doesn't works there's nothing to lose in doing so except a little bit of time and effort.
Concerning Magisk not being able to patch the RK3566 boot.img (sure?), I was going to say that you could say something in this respect in the Magisk thread, although I see it was closed long ago. So, the best thing to do is to inquire topjohnwu directly about Magisk's support for Rockchip SoCs, I guess. There's also topjohnwu's GitHub page with further information and etcetera.
And now that we're here I am not going to say that these boxes probably suck in certain ways, although I could. A working hardware matters, and proper working software matters too.
A tad off topic, very recently I've been checking the Orange Pi 5 Plus, for whatever reason. It uses a far more powerful and fully fledged Rockchip RK3588 SoC, and I see it somewhat below $200 (or even a hair below $180!) in 16 GiB of RAM configuration and including USB-C power supply. It clearly is something in another league, and very recently got new Android 12 images for SD card boot and fast 2280 M.2 NVMe storage boot; and it has accessible source code, which is very important developer wise.
It's a lot more money to spend at, but it also is a real Android computer which you can attach to TVs or monitors…
First thing I did after the apps started closing was to open the box and I added a bigger heatsink, I also tried increase the SOC voltage to see if it was a low voltage issue, and if I'm not mistaken I also tested the ram while I was using linux, and still, a paper weight...
After I discovered this issue and was unable to fix it I started to flash any RK3566 or RK3568 rom in to my x88 pro 20, most of them appear the logo screen, but are stuck in that image, I don't know much about these rom's, but might be just one thing or two preventing me from booting into the system