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I am a long time galaxy user. I have rooted every phone i had. I used s4 s5 note 4 s6 edge note 5 and now s7 edge. Rooting is the first thing i did on all these phones out of the box. So pretty much i never experienced a non rooted galaxy. All these phones are very powerful in terms of hardware. Despite of the powerful hardware all these phones never performed all smooth with the ui navigation or in terms of responsiveness . I understand with s4 s5 and note 4 having old touchwiz, but even with the redesigned touchwiz on s6 edge and note 5 ui is still not smooth. I experienced lag with scrolling and navigating the ui. By the way i removed all bloat i could on all devices. Used xposed mods that supposedly should "increase" the performance.
Last week i purchased s7 edge. As usual i rooted the second i came home.. Removed bloat and have been using all week. Guess what same experience.. Laggy ui. What i mean by lag is.. Scrolling is not smooth. I press the home button while playing a game it Takes a second To come to home screen. I end the call and it takes a good 1 second to come back to previous screen. Keyboard sometimes takes a second to show up. The animation are not smooth. All this lag is present 40% of the time here and there . This is the same type of lag i experienced with all other devices.
So. I taught of giving the s7 edge a second chance without rooting or any mods. Just stock. I have been using the phone since 2 days.. Guess what.. The phone is perfect and 100% lag free 100% of the time.
Now i m in a dilemma of what to do.. But i do really miss some root apps. Is it just me that had this problem with all the phones i used.. I m really disappointed on rooting now. Do i have to sacrifice smoother ui for rooted apps.
Please share your thoughts.
infinitiwoods12 said:
Hi guys
I am a long time galaxy user. I have rooted every phone i had. I used s4 s5 note 4 s6 edge note 5 and now s7 edge. Rooting is the first thing i did on all these phones out of the box. So pretty much i never experienced a non rooted galaxy. All these phones are very powerful in terms of hardware. Despite of the powerful hardware all these phones never performed all smooth with the ui navigation or in terms of responsiveness . I understand with s4 s5 and note 4 having old touchwiz, but even with the redesigned touchwiz on s6 edge and note 5 ui is still not smooth. I experienced lag with scrolling and navigating the ui. By the way i removed all bloat i could on all devices. Used xposed mods that supposedly should "increase" the performance.
Last week i purchased s7 edge. As usual i rooted the second i came home.. Removed bloat and have been using all week. Guess what same experience.. Laggy ui. What i mean by lag is.. Scrolling is not smooth. I press the home button while playing a game it Takes a second To come to home screen. I end the call and it takes a good 1 second to come back to previous screen. Keyboard sometimes takes a second to show up. The animation are not smooth. All this lag is present 40% of the time here and there . This is the same type of lag i experienced with all other devices.
So. I taught of giving the s7 edge a second chance without rooting or any mods. Just stock. I have been using the phone since 2 days.. Guess what.. The phone is perfect and 100% lag free 100% of the time.
Now i m in a dilemma of what to do.. But i do really miss some root apps. Is it just me that had this problem with all the phones i used.. I m really disappointed on rooting now. Do i have to sacrifice smoother ui for rooted apps.
Please share your thoughts.
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you can try to decrease lag without root by removing all the animations or at least reducing animations from 1.0 to .5....but i actually turn them completely off. This can be done in developer options. You can enable developer options by tapping on the build number 5 consecutive times in the settings
jdizzle316 said:
you can try to decrease lag without root by removing all the animations or at least reducing animations from 1.0 to .5....but i actually turn them completely off. This can be done in developer options. You can enable developer options by tapping on the build number 5 consecutive times in the settings
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please read the entire post . the phone doesn't have lag if its not rooted...
infinitiwoods12 said:
please read the entire post . the phone doesn't have lag if its not rooted...
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I've heard this complaint before with slightly dodgy root methods posted on chinese forums. Do you have the exynos or snapdragon variant?
randomhkkid said:
I've heard this complaint before with slightly dodgy root methods posted on chinese forums. Do you have the exynos or snapdragon variant?
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I have the exynos s7 edge dual sim.
Like i said.. I had this lag issue with note 5 s6 edge note 4 s5 s4
infinitiwoods12 said:
I have the exynos s7 edge dual sim.
Like i said.. I had this lag issue with note 5 s6 edge note 4 s5 s4
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Strange, I've only ever seen the problem with dodgy root methods, then again it's been a while since I had a samsung phone. Have you tried a full factory reset before rooting?
That's weird, how can it be more laggy while rooted? I just received mine today, and was thinking about rooting it straight away but I've read that tripping knox=no Samsung Pay -and maybe other things I don't know about yet-, so I will wait a little bit and read around to get myself properly informed.
BTW I come from a rooted S4, and it is butter smooth -running the GPE ROM-. As for the 1 second lag when pressing the home button, check if you have any double-press actions configured -like opening the cam, recent apps, google now, flashlight...-, if you configure a duoble-press action you get that 1 second before the one-press action is executed, as that's what the terminal waits to detect/check for a double-press.
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Strange, I've only ever seen the problem with dodgy root methods, then again it's been a while since I had a samsung phone. Have you tried a full factory reset before rooting?
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Yeah.. Thats out of the box. So obviously factory reset.
Provinomico said:
That's weird, how can it be more laggy while rooted? I just received mine today, and was thinking about rooting it straight away but I've read that tripping knox=no Samsung Pay -and maybe other things I don't know about yet-, so I will wait a little bit and read around to get myself properly informed.
BTW I come from a rooted S4, and it is butter smooth -running the GPE ROM-. As for the 1 second lag when pressing the home button, check if you have any double-press actions configured -like opening the cam, recent apps, google now, flashlight...-, if you configure a duoble-press action you get that 1 second before the one-press action is executed, as that's what the terminal waits to detect/check for a double-press.
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Home button lag is only one of the many lag issues and i m aware of the double press home button issue.. But its not what i mean.. I mean actual unresponsiveness.
Don't see how just root can cause lag
One of the apps you use that requires root is probably the issue
AthiT789 said:
Don't see how just root can cause lag
One of the apps you use that requires root is probably the issue
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Sounds logical..
So u guys are not having issues like i do.. Then.
infinitiwoods12 said:
Yeah.. Thats out of the box. So obviously factory reset.
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Just trying to help haha, does the root itself cause the lag? Maybe it's caused by the method by which you have removed the bloatware. If it isn't then I'm out of ideas, perhaps try an alternate root method.
Install echoerom,
No lag here when i was on stock rom rooted. Now im on echorom and its flys
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Root doesn't have anything to do with lag. If you use the stock ROM with just root access and some root apps it should perform exactly the same as an unrooted phone, unless the root apps you use misbehaving.
That being said, this is the first phone I don't feel the need to root it. I thought about it many times and I once wanted to just do it, but as I downloaded the necessary stuff I realised I don't need it. Package disabler pro lets me disable apps I don't use and block this let's me remove ads. Not quite as efficient as adaway but efficient enough to not be bothered too much with ads.
lvnatic said:
Root doesn't have anything to do with lag. If you use the stock ROM with just root access and some root apps it should perform exactly the same as an unrooted phone, unless the root apps you use misbehaving.
That being said, this is the first phone I don't feel the need to root it. I thought about it many times and I once wanted to just do it, but as I downloaded the necessary stuff I realised I don't need it. Package disabler pro lets me disable apps I don't use and block this let's me remove ads. Not quite as efficient as adaway but efficient enough to not be bothered too much with ads.
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randomhkkid said:
Just trying to help haha, does the root itself cause the lag? Maybe it's caused by the method by which you have removed the bloatware. If it isn't then I'm out of ideas, perhaps try an alternate root method.
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The root method i tried is th twrp and flash supersu. The root apps i use are..
BBS
XPOSED
Wanam
Xstatusbar
Xtouchwiz
Youtubeadaway
Minminad
XPRIVACY
TITANIUMBACKUP
GREENIFY
IFONT
LUCKY PATCHER
Preety much all are popular apps
infinitiwoods12 said:
The root method i tried is th twrp and flash supersu. The root apps i use are..
BBS
XPOSED
Wanam
Xstatusbar
Xtouchwiz
Youtubeadaway
Minminad
XPRIVACY
TITANIUMBACKUP
GREENIFY
IFONT
LUCKY PATCHER
Preety much all are popular apps
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So factory reset and root. Check for any lag if none occurs then install some of the root apps, if lag still doesn't occur rinse and repeat. Tedious but just because apps are popular does not mean they won't occasionally play up on new hardware.
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So factory reset and root. Check for any lag if none occurs then install some of the root apps, if lag still doesn't occur rinse and repeat. Tedious but just because apps are popular does not mean they won't occasionally play up on new hardware.
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Alright bro thanks.. For the reply.. Now that it has been 3 days.. I will now just root and install nothing relating to root and test the performance
infinitiwoods12 said:
Alright bro thanks.. For the reply.. Now that it has been 3 days.. I will now just root and install nothing relating to root and test the performance
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How about trying the Chainfire Auto-CF method, instead of the TWRP? Maybe that would give a cleaner root
It'll definitely be one of those apps or mods. Root itself won't affect performance at all.
Hi I just bought galaxy s7 edge, phone is amazing but the biggest issue is performance, most games dropping frames below 30fps even temple run 2 or candy crush soda, sky force, heartstone etc. These games where running on may galaxy s5 smooth I'm really disappointed right now and don't know what to do. Is it a hardware or software issue? Can u help me please?
temple run and candy crush works fine on my phone
ye GS7 has the worst gaming performance in flagship device for years, there is not much u can do without root, and even with root the solution is not optimal to use.
U can however disable gameservice which might help or not, u need package disable pro in order to do so if u don't have root.
You mean best gaming perform. Zero issues here
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no one of the worst, the fact that u don't have issues does not mean it's working perfect, u might not be able to see it.
Again not all games effected, mine games currently are Tekken on PPSSPP and Angry birds 2 on high levels 200+, both lags so bad it's not funny, Note 5 on 5.1.1 was light years ahead of S7.
Derpling said:
no one of the worst, the fact that u don't have issues does not mean it's working perfect, u might not be able to see it.
Again not all games effected, mine games currently are Tekken on PPSSPP and Angry birds 2 on high levels 200+, both lags so bad it's not funny, Note 5 on 5.1.1 was light years ahead of S7.
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Have you tried clearing your cache? I play asphalt 8 which is pretty graphic intensive and haven't had as much a a frame drop.
Gray831 said:
Hi I just bought galaxy s7 edge, phone is amazing but the biggest issue is performance, most games dropping frames below 30fps even temple run 2 or candy crush soda, sky force, heartstone etc. These games where running on may galaxy s5 smooth I'm really disappointed right now and don't know what to do. Is it a hardware or software issue? Can u help me please?
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Snapdragon or exynos?
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mrnovanova said:
Have you tried clearing your cache? I play asphalt 8 which is pretty graphic intensive and haven't had as much a a frame drop.
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i did everything, i can prove that it's the software that throttling the phone, not hardware.
If u disable DVFS via root, 85% of the lag is gone just like that.
Derpling said:
i did everything, i can prove that it's the software that throttling the phone, not hardware.
If u disable DVFS via root, 85% of the lag is gone just like that.
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Hi how U do that?
thank's
First u need to be rooted then install xpose, then u need the disable dvfs module, activate it restart phone, let it cool down and try your games
Derpling said:
First u need to be rooted then install xpose, then u need the disable dvfs module, activate it restart phone, let it cool down and try your games
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Thanks man. Just a question when u root u have to factory reset the phone?
Not at all but it will trip knox and your software warranty will wear off.
I just give up to play Need for Speed No Limits on my S7 Edge Exynos. Is just impossible to play after 5 minutes.
Just as a information I played the same game on a old Galaxy S4 Mini witch has much lower hardware specs, and no problems at all. Samsung just lie when says a S7 is a phone for games
the hardware is there, the software is limiting and yes that annoying, guys just spam their twitter account and try to go to higher ranks, if we all work together something might happen.
Make sure you don't have any accessibility services enabled. I had to have it enabled for a swipe down to open the notification drawer in my launcher, but discovered that enabling any accessibility service really slows down the entire phone.
Fossxp13 said:
Hi how U do that?
thank's
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS6/comments/375ikf/i_found_a_way_to_disable_dvfs_without_xposed_only/
fellow these steps
works for every galaxy
90% of lag will be gone
gtg465x said:
Make sure you don't have any accessibility services enabled. I had to have it enabled for a swipe down to open the notification drawer in my launcher, but discovered that enabling any accessibility service really slows down the entire phone.
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Disabled Nova Launcher and Geenify services on Accesibility and now tha game runs smoother, and by the way the phone feels cooler, will test more.
At some point slow down a bit but not as used to be.
thanks
magoo1275 said:
I just give up to play Need for Speed No Limits on my S7 Edge Exynos. Is just impossible to play after 5 minutes.
Just as a information I played the same game on a old Galaxy S4 Mini witch has much lower hardware specs, and no problems at all. Samsung just lie when says a S7 is a phone for games
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Look out for editing config file with json editor it works the game now look great and runs flawless...
Gray831 said:
Hi I just bought galaxy s7 edge, phone is amazing but the biggest issue is performance, most games dropping frames below 30fps even temple run 2 or candy crush soda, sky force, heartstone etc. These games where running on may galaxy s5 smooth I'm really disappointed right now and don't know what to do. Is it a hardware or software issue? Can u help me please?
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Are you still experiencing lag in games?
So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
If you're a Nexus fan, get the Nexus 6P. It's just as good or maybe even better depending on your likes.
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Simone said:
If you're a Nexus fan, get the Nexus 6P. It's just as good or maybe even better depending on your likes.
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That phone is so old now though by todays standards.
chugger93 said:
That phone is so old now though by todays standards.
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Still better than s7 )
Diaze said:
Still better than s7 )
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Except that it isn't! I have both and I much prefer my S7E, which is why it is my primary device and my N6P my backup.
Regards,
Dave
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chugger93 said:
So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
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New to the S7 edge myself. From what I've seen so far there's no rooting or anything unless you're on the non-US version. Knox is apparently a sort of security system that is part of the reason (maybe the whole reason?) you can't root it. Touchwiz does suck, the phone was super cluttered and really ugly compared to iOS which I've just moved from. I was thinking hard about taking the phone back after the first hour or so using it but installing Nova Launcher Prime fixed that for me. Disabling the bloat as well made it a great experience. It's a good little phone, the battery life is incredible (compared to my 6s Plus). No problem getting through 2 days before having to charge it. Zippy as well, very fast phone.
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New to the S7 edge myself. From what I've seen so far there's no rooting or anything unless you're on the non-US version. Knox is apparently a sort of security system that is part of the reason (maybe the whole reason?) you can't root it. Touchwiz does suck, the phone was super cluttered and really ugly compared to iOS which I've just moved from. I was thinking hard about taking the phone back after the first hour or so using it but installing Nova Launcher Prime fixed that for me. Disabling the bloat as well made it a great experience. It's a good little phone, the battery life is incredible (compared to my 6s Plus). No problem getting through 2 days before having to charge it. Zippy as well, very fast phone.
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Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
iTouch24 said:
Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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It ran fast out of the box for me, it may come down to what we have installed? I used EZ Disabler (paid version) to disable the bloatware. The only game I have is Shadow Era and it doesn't do anything in the background so I can't speak to games and background activity. The only things I have running in the background are things I'd expect (FB, Whatsapp, Telegram, email, etc.) (And I am using the American AT&T S7 edge so there's no rooting, custom ROM stuff or any of that since it's currently impossible, just stock.)
Touchwiz isn't that crappy anymore - pretty smooth actually.
And battery life is insane on the Exynos variant i can get 2-3 days of normal usage without charging (u won't get this with any SD820 phone ^^)
If you don't care about battery life that much and rather want the maximum 3D performance you would probably be better off with a SD820 phone (maybe the next nexus)
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It ran fast out of the box for me, it may come down to what we have installed? I used EZ Disabler (paid version) to disable the bloatware. The only game I have is Shadow Era and it doesn't do anything in the background so I can't speak to games and background activity. The only things I have running in the background are things I'd expect (FB, Whatsapp, Telegram, email, etc.) (And I am using the American AT&T S7 edge so there's no rooting, custom ROM stuff or any of that since it's currently impossible, just stock.)
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I have same device as u. AT&T edge.
I noticed in touchwiz if u go to appdrawer, u can edit and turn off bloatware. We can't uninstall without root but seems we can turn off.
Where r u going in setting to prevent apps from running in background.
I went through notifications n shut allot off.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
iTouch24 said:
Do u use anything to keep the phone running fast?
I installed clean master.
Always tells me apps are running. Not sure why these apps always start to run themselves in the background even after I close all apps.
Some r games n stuff not like Facebook witch I would understand as to retrieve messages.
Are u going in app manager and disabling bloatware?
I enabled developer mode and change all animations from 1.0 to .5 to try n get a faster experience.
I myself coming iPhone.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Clean Master does nothing or worse for your battery. It will clean up some files but I would suggest SD Maid for that matter.
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chugger93 said:
So I have a Nexus 5, but need to upgrade. Why not, lol? I see theres some decent development here already. Any roms that are just aosp and not touchwiz tho? I didnt see any. Not a fan of touchwiz. Any major issues with this phone? Is it rootable? Any reason not to root? I see this knox term being thrown around...what the hell is that?
Just looking for some thoughts because I was also debating waiting for the next nexus device to.
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Be aware that if you purchase from a US provider (including Sprint and T-Mobile) that you will not be able to root your S7. The bootloader is locked and the vulnerability hasn't been found yet.
Knox is a security app on Samsung phones that will keep secure whatever apps or data are in the Knox vault. It is for people who need higher security. Knox will not work if the phone has been rooted... even if the phone is later unrooted. Rooting trips a flag that will disable Knox and Samsung Pay.
iTouch24 said:
I have same device as u. AT&T edge.
I noticed in touchwiz if u go to appdrawer, u can edit and turn off bloatware. We can't uninstall without root but seems we can turn off.
Where r u going in setting to prevent apps from running in background.
I went through notifications n shut allot off.
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Yeah, you can do it that way or use a debloat program which allows you to disable things that touchwiz won't.
I use an app called Greenify (the donation package). It gives you a list of all apps that run in the background (and even system services if you're brave enough to go through them all) and it lets you force them to stop running in the background and only run when you are actually using them on screen. For example say you use Snapchat. It's always running in the background whether you've opened it or not, checking for messages. Greenify can force it to not do that unless you physically open it. The only things I let run in the background are messaging apps I rely on (SMS, Whatsapp, Telegram, Inbox, etc.) and everything else - I let greenify force to hibernate.
I just got my 1+6T today. So far so good. Definitely better performance than any android phone i've ever used. Im used to rooting and flashing custom roms on everything I get though but, with a phone like this is there even a benefit?
Adaway and titanium backup are two root privelaged apps I have to have. Not to mention with flashing custom ROMs you have access to mods and tweaks that typically aren't included in stock operating systems. Having root is what gives the user to make their ability to shape the phone to THEIR liking....which is the backbone of Android imho.
If you're happy without root then run in stock because this is Android and you can do what you want.
Viper, substratum, titanium, magisk, YouTube vanced, so much more that you could do to customize the phone to your liking.
I think you need to be rooted to use substratum themes on Android pie so I want it for that along with viper and adaway. Whether you use a custom ROM , well we will have to see what's available in the near future. Stock ROM had improved a lot and provides stability.
adaway and titanium backup alone are enough to want root.
I am using Adguard on phone without root and it seems to have better results then Adaway.
wangdak said:
I am using Adguard on phone without root and it seems to have better results then Adaway.
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Adguard works well....but if I'm not mistaken, it works under an entirely different premise. Adaway uses an extremely lengthy and up to date hosts file to block ads. Adguard, from what I remember, basically tunnels all internet activity through a vpn to remove ads. It was always running in the background, took up ram and drained battery. Adaway is my go to as it works well and nowhere near as intrusive to the user experience.
nima0003 said:
Viper, substratum, titanium, magisk, YouTube vanced, so much more that you could do to customize the phone to your liking.
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I second this. Love YT Vanced..
Google pay with root?
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There is no other way to get blobmojis back and messaging feels wrong without them.
nima0003 said:
Viper, substratum, titanium, magisk, YouTube vanced, so much more that you could do to customize the phone to your liking.
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I'm using YouTube vanced on my stock Note 9...
Nowadays, I use Google Pay way too much to be bothered with ROM'ing and rooting. However, I do understand the importance of options...
NAB4 said:
Nowadays, I use Google Pay way too much to be bothered with ROM'ing and rooting. However, I do understand the importance of options...
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You know you can still be rooted and use Google pay? Magisk has allowed that for quite a while. Its not a problem at all.
Root access, vanced, viper, havoc OS, kernels(I think battery life is so so) I'm used to 7-10 hrs SOT... And I'm 98% sure with a killer kernel the AOD mod will add some more sweet Ness to this oxygen os pie... And not affect battery life much. ..oh and I like root, as in the directory..I mess around in there all day.
JamesR913 said:
Google pay with root?
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Yes with Magisk,
Is there a way to root the Samsung s10 plus?
Magisk, patch boot image and flash it with odin.
**Didn't try it** since i don't need root, but it was the way to root all my previous phone without TWRP.
mx3racer said:
Is there a way to root the Samsung s10 plus?
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Cannot be done yet. Stay tuned to the forums (particularly Rom/kernel/dev dicussion etc.) for updates on TWRP & Magisk support for the S10/S10+/S10e
Yeah, awaiting to root my 975F too.
rodrigofd said:
Cannot be done yet. Stay tuned to the forums (particularly Rom/kernel/dev dicussion etc.) for updates on TWRP & Magisk support for the S10/S10+/S10e
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Why? Magisk Canary support s10, right? https://www.xda-developers.com/magisk-canary-update-support-aonly-system-root-android-pie/
Looking forward to root my S10+ (G975F)
Hopefully Customs Roms too
Root Samsung Galxy S10 plus using Magisk canary
Here is a detailed guide on How to Root Samsung Galaxy S10/S10+/S10e using Magisk canary. Do remember that Samsung has introduced "Vaultkeeper" feature which makes it a little different to root latest Samsung devices.
Who would want to root a device like this!? And why?
leoking3 said:
Who would want to root a device like this!? And why?
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Samsung has made these steps complicated so that only the most enthusiastic people would want to try rooting.
Android manufacturers are starting to follow the footsteps of Apple. They are also not wanting people to mess with their devices. Huawei has also stopped providing unlock codes for their smartphones.
not sure why exactly you want to root s10+.
you can customize this device 100% and also block all those bloatwares without rooting.. so think again
There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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well, im a user who used to root every single samsung device. but i never root my s10. i managed to block ALL my ads using adguard. Why would i need Titanium backup when i can use package disabler and do the same thing (oh and by the way i still have a Pro titanium key and i love that app). i dont see a big difference between disabling bloatwares and uninstalling them. as long as they are not coming up im ok with that.
Try and search the disadvantages of rooting. Last time yes, you need to root your device to customize but now without root you can use your phone with all those so called unlocked features. just FYI my battery last for 26hours+ with 7-8 hours SOT.
Just my 2cents
happy rooting.
Cyberhamxa said:
Here is a detailed guide on How to Root Samsung Galaxy S10/S10+/S10e using Magisk canary. Do remember that Samsung has introduced "Vaultkeeper" feature which makes it a little different to root latest Samsung devices.
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This is only for the international S10 plus right? Thanks In advance!!!
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone.
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well, im a user who used to root every single samsung device. but i never root my s10. i managed to block ALL my ads using adguard. Why would i need Titanium backup when i can use package disabler and do the same thing (oh and by the way i still have a Pro titanium key and i love that app). i dont see a big difference between disabling bloatwares and uninstalling them. as long as they are not coming up im ok with that.
Try and search the disadvantages of rooting. Last time yes, you need to root your device to customize but now without root you can use your phone with all those so called unlocked features. just FYI my battery last for 26hours+ with 7-8 hours SOT.
Just my 2cents
happy rooting.
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds, which means you can and will still see adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period, so the only way is through root. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. In addition, there are certain levels of customization which can only be optained through rooting ex.. 3minit battery, etc... .And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager. Yes, I agree root is less of a necessity today than it was years ago. However, for some, it is essential and a choice they don't wish to relinquish to OEMs. Yes, there are genuine dangers to rooting. But it is a choice each individual should make for themselves, not one made by the OEM. Just, my 2 cents.
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wouldn't root a phone when using samsung pay and pass.
used to do titanium backup and remove unused apps but when system update comes, i couldn't restore them to original condition and thus no way to update.
not taking the flash update route.
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Eudeferrer said:
There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds, which means you can and will still see adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period, so the only way is through root. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. In addition, there are certain levels of customization which can only be optained through rooting ex.. 3minit battery, etc... .And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager. Yes, I agree root is less of a necessity today than it was years ago. However, for some, it is essential and a choice they don't wish to relinquish to OEMs. Yes, there are genuine dangers to rooting. But it is a choice each individual should make for themselves, not one made by the OEM. Just, my 2 cents.
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I do know Adguard is not a Systemwide blocker. But it does a very good job blocking ads which is exactly what i want. To me the end result is what matters.
Do you think only titanium can backup your apps data? there are so many apps which can do this without rooting your phone. And im surprised you're talking about your phone space. You do know that s10+ is a high end phone which has a 128GB inbuilt and can extend that to another 512 GB if im not mistaken right? system apps/bloatwares wont even take a GB of your phones space.
> And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager.
I do not wish to make it even better. because i've already tweaked this to the max and whats the point tweaking some more? when you have a powerful phone. Also only a small % of people do these kind of kernel changes.
battery mod all just a reason you tell yourself just coz you wanted to root your phone. Surely you can find an alternate method.
Anyways if anyone ask me about rooting s10 variants i will say dont. warranty gone, samsung pay - gone (one of the best payment method), updates need to do it manually.. some of the secure payment / banking apps wont work.
Well but i do agree with you on one thing. It's individual preference. If i decided to root i will defend my choice by talking about all those advantages. And if i choose not to root i will be talking about the disadvantages lol.
But really now a days rooting a powerful device doesnt make any sense at all - at least to an average user. im really enjoying my s10+ with nova launcher+good look customization+KWGT widgets+package disabler+adguard. It's almost like a rooted device for me now
some additional features are just a step away without rooting. simply setup adb on your pc, connect your phone with usb debugging and send some adb commands to allow WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS, CHANGE_CONFIGURATION, DUMP, depending on the app requirements.
for my use case, i had tasker and secure settings app.
on landscape orientation, it would automatically change input method to minuum (low profile keyboard). used to be using multiling though.
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I do know Adguard is not a Systemwide blocker. But it does a very good job blocking ads which is exactly what i want. To me the end result is what matters.
Do you think only titanium can backup your apps data? there are so many apps which can do this without rooting your phone. And im surprised you're talking about your phone space. You do know that s10+ is a high end phone which has a 128GB inbuilt and can extend that to another 512 GB if im not mistaken right? system apps/bloatwares wont even take a GB of your phones space.
> And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager.
I do not wish to make it even better. because i've already tweaked this to the max and whats the point tweaking some more? when you have a powerful phone. Also only a small % of people do these kind of kernel changes.
battery mod all just a reason you tell yourself just coz you wanted to root your phone. Surely you can find an alternate method.
Anyways if anyone ask me about rooting s10 variants i will say dont. warranty gone, samsung pay - gone (one of the best payment method), updates need to do it manually.. some of the secure payment / banking apps wont work.
Well but i do agree with you on one thing. It's individual preference. If i decided to root i will defend my choice by talking about all those advantages. And if i choose not to root i will be talking about the disadvantages lol.
But really now a days rooting a powerful device doesnt make any sense at all - at least to an average user. im really enjoying my s10+ with nova launcher+good look customization+KWGT widgets+package disabler+adguard. It's almost like a rooted device for me now
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To my knowledge, Titanium IS the best and only app thst can backup APK content fully, quickly and effectively. If you knows if another app that can backup APK data without root effectively please share. I would love to try it. There are thousands of apps that will backup you APKs, but none will backup their data. I have tried too many to only be disappointed at the end. If Google was able to do this effectively, I would surely stop rooting phones.
Not everyone needs a Terrabyte of capacity in their phone. It's a phone, for God's sake. I keep tens of thousands of pics and videos on mine, and still have plenty of room left; and because it's a Pixel, they are also saved in their original resolution on the cloud and are synced and available on any and all devices I log into. I also have over 230 apps installed and have plenty of room left. I won't argue that it's nicer to have more space than not, but IMO, it's not necessary for most people. It's mostly a strategy to keep getting people to buy a newer model with more this or that. Sure, a Pentabyte of space would be even better to have but I will never need it on my phones.
BTW never met anyone before who said they "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone". Given a chance, I think most people would tweak it to improve it.You must be pretty lucky with your phone. I've already seen forums about the battery life on the S10+ and how to make it better. The one one battery optimization is already 35 pages long! Either you are a light user, or you got very lucky with your phone.
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To my knowledge, Titanium IS the best and only app thst can backup APK content fully, quickly and effectively. If you knows if another app that can backup APK data without root effectively please share. I would love to try it. There are thousands of apps that will backup you APKs, but none will backup their data. I have tried too many to only be disappointed at the end. If Google was able to do this effectively, I would surely stop rooting phones.
Not everyone needs a Terrabyte of capacity in their phone. It's a phone, for God's sake. I keep tens of thousands of pics and videos on mine, and still have plenty of room left; and because it's a Pixel, they are also saved in their original resolution on the cloud and are synced and available on any and all devices I log into. I also have over 230 apps installed and have plenty of room left. I won't argue that it's nicer to have more space than not, but IMO, it's not necessary for most people. It's mostly a strategy to keep getting people to buy a newer model with more this or that. Sure, a Pentabyte of space would be even better to have but I will never need it on my phones.
BTW never met anyone before who said they "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone". Given a chance, I think most people would tweak it to improve it.You must be pretty lucky with your phone. I've already seen forums about the battery life on the S10+ and how to make it better. The one one battery optimization is already 35 pages long! Either you are a light user, or you got very lucky with your phone.
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To your very own knowledge you say Titanium is the best, ok fine. thats perfectly fine. Because there was this one time i was so obsessed with Titanium and that app was the 1st app i will ever install soon after rooting my device.
Reg backing up data, i do agree, that is a challenge. without rooting its difficult, but its NOT impossible. i transferred all my s9+ apps/data to s10+ without any issues. You know how? nowadays 90% apps have inbuilt backup solution. So you can easily backup your data to cloud etc. That way you can restore them without any issue. The only app data i had to redo - Duo security.
Yes, I do agree, no one ever need terabyte of capacity. I only have 256GB and I also have thousands of photos/videos. Why do you need to save tens of thousands of pics and videos in your mobile? it's a phone, for gods sake. You do know that you can backup to cloud and remove those photos. That way you can save space. So if you have enough space, why you're bothered about "disabled" apps vs uninstalled apps?
Do you know why i said "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone"? I'm a s10+ user. S10+ is a very very powerful phone with a very good battery capacity/hardware etc. I'm not a light user. People having issues with s10+ battery coz they dunno how to tweak their device. Just because there are 1001 tips to save battery, its not necessary to do them all. For example, people say reduce brightness, reduce the resolution, screen type etc. Whats the point doing all those things when you own a powerful, expensive phone? You MUST use some of those nice features without thinking much about battery usage. That's why i said I'm against doing every single things to save even 0.1% battery. I will only do reasonable tweaks and if my phone can give me 24hr + battery life then im more than happy.
Do you know that a lot of people dont use android Facebook app coz they all think it will drain the battery etc? i know that, but im still using FB, instagram etc etc. May be like you said you've never met a person who said i tweaked enough. But I've met them
I really respect all XDA devs. I still have 2 S7 devices with CF root + titanium backup etc etc. So its not that i dont like rooting. What im trying to tell you is, its not necessary to root. If you weigh the advantages / disadvantages, I only can see very few disadvantages.
You have no idea how many power hungry apps I have. I just know how to tweak them, block background access, block data access, use proper firewall etc. etc.
I'm not gonna argue with you whether rooting is good or not. Coz like i said, you have a fixed mindset that rooting is the only way. For that only im replying telling thats not the only way. Anyways, I have nothing against you. You root your device or dont root your device that got nothing to do with me. I'm just sharing that by rooting you gonna loose quite a lot of good features/apps + warranty. Last time we all had to take that risk (including me) because we literally had no choice. Now it's not like that.
Good luck, and for those who wish to root your s10+, please think again. That's all i can tell.