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Samsung reply on GPS issues and Upload Cap...Hilarious...

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And that was it, you have got to be kidding me. This is so bad it is comical.

Am I missing something or is there no response included???

"thanks for choosing samsung" was their response

What upload cap?
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sultan.of.swing said:
What upload cap?
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Do some more speed tests, verify that you're on 3g and post the results please. I'm 100 % skeptic that you're getting 715 up on your 3g connection.
And if it's true, tell us what you've done to get around it.

So was that through Photoshop or MSPaint? Maybe even Gimp although I've never used it.

This is on full 3g walking around in best buy
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So was that through Photoshop or MSPaint? Maybe even Gimp although I've never used it.
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Mine or the other guy who is completely trolling the thread?
Ill post mine when I have full signal. I have personally watched mine shoot up to 600 then go back, like it was forced, down to 150...several times.

I ran the speedtest app a few more times. I notice its getting my location wrong. But i ran about 8 tests and all were above 150 upload. This was the lowest result. Phone is running the stock rom just rooted.
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No tricks or anything. And im not trolling. This is the first time i have hit higher than 150 on upload so i am not sure what is happening. I am running the new update but that didn't fix anything.
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Blitzpwnage said:
Mine or the other guy who is completely trolling the thread?
Ill post mine when I have full signal. I have personally watched mine shoot up to 600 then go back, like it was forced, down to 150...several times.
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Sorry, not you. The other guy. Now that he told us where, I'll go to my Sprint Authorized Reseller local Best Buy and do the same. I expect that I will get the same results until I move out of range of the store.
Edit: Either that or this guy has the only working, uncapped Epic in existence.

sultan.of.swing said:
I ran the speedtest app a few more times. I notice its getting my location wrong. But i ran about 8 tests and all were above 150 upload. This was the lowest result. Phone is running the stock rom just rooted.
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Very interesting...hmmmmm

No longer in bestbuy. This was only on 2 bars on 3g. Gonna reboot the phone and test again.
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Forgot the pic.
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I'm definitely not going to believe that you're getting twice the UL speed as you are the DL....

ive gotten -0 on download before...

^^^ Hey, are you in Kansas? Or did you just choose the speedtest server in Kansas?
If you're in Kansas, the fact that you're getting > 150kbps is a GOOD sign, and suggests that Sprint might actually have a grip on the problem and be close to fixing it. Think about it... their engineering is HQ'ed in Kansas. If they need to roll out a fix to towers, which towers would be the first ones to get the fix? Right... the ones in Sprint's back yard.
Kansas is a great place for Sprint to stage its fixes... not only are their best engineers there, but Kansas City is also just the right size for a first-stage fix. It's big enough to be a challenging real city, but it's not New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles, so if something were to go wrong, few people outside of the immediate metro area would be likely to notice unless it were really, really bad or lasted for a long time. Contrast that with somewhere like New York, where a 30-second service outage would make world headlines.
Also, the fact that you got faster performance from a femtocell (presumably an Airave at Best Buy) is itself good news, because it suggests that once Sprint gets the towers fixed, Airave users won't find themselves marginalized with slow speeds for months waiting for a fix.
Actually... has anybody in an area with 150k towers tried an Epic with an Airave to see whether it makes a difference?

bitbang3r said:
Actually... has anybody in an area with 150k towers tried an Epic with an Airave to see whether it makes a difference?
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Excellent idea - I'll be getting a 3G Airave for my parents's house in about 3 days, I'll definitely give this a try.

bitbang3r said:
^^^ Hey, are you in Kansas? Or did you just choose the speedtest server in Kansas?
If you're in Kansas, the fact that you're getting > 150kbps is a GOOD sign, and suggests that Sprint might actually have a grip on the problem and be close to fixing it. Think about it... their engineering is HQ'ed in Kansas. If they need to roll out a fix to towers, which towers would be the first ones to get the fix? Right... the ones in Sprint's back yard.
Kansas is a great place for Sprint to stage its fixes... not only are their best engineers there, but Kansas City is also just the right size for a first-stage fix. It's big enough to be a challenging real city, but it's not New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles, so if something were to go wrong, few people outside of the immediate metro area would be likely to notice unless it were really, really bad or lasted for a long time. Contrast that with somewhere like New York, where a 30-second service outage would make world headlines.
Also, the fact that you got faster performance from a femtocell (presumably an Airave at Best Buy) is itself good news, because it suggests that once Sprint gets the towers fixed, Airave users won't find themselves marginalized with slow speeds for months waiting for a fix.
Actually... has anybody in an area with 150k towers tried an Epic with an Airave to see whether it makes a difference?
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I am actually in nc. Its the default server it picked. That's why i was saying it that my location was off.
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sultan.of.swing said:
I am actually in nc. Its the default server it picked. That's why i was saying it that my location was off.
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Odd. I'll take you at your word, but I'm curious now as to why you're getting speeds that nobody else is getting. I'm in SD and still getting 150kbps wherever I go.

Are you guys rooted and running custom roms? How are you getting speedtest.net to work on your epic without flash?

No OTA yet.

Am I wasting my time calling TMO about why I haven't gotten the OTA update yet or is there a chance they can actually do something about it?
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pdxrealtor said:
Am I wasting my time calling TMO about why I haven't gotten the OTA update yet or is there a chance they can actually do something about it?
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Just update it yourself. It's a pretty easy task.

Yea if you check out the development section there is like 10 posts for doing it manually doesn't take long at all why wait just do it yourself I did on the 3rd works great
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2nd that
love the wifi calling feature works great

I've seen that option since the 3 rd I just want mine straight from TMO.
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pdxrealtor said:
I've seen that option since the 3 rd I just want mine straight from TMO.
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Yeah I always did the manual updates on my Nexus and now I'm waiting to actually see what an official OTA looks like. That's the only reason I'm still holding out on the manual update... I'm starting to get anxious for the update at this point, it just doesn't seem to like me

i havent recived mine either. been doing the "check in" thing since it started, but nada. is there anything we can do to force the update? i dont want to manually do it either, as the guy above me said, i wanna see what a normal ota is like

I'm in the same category. No update yet. I don't even know what other prompts you are all talking about lol.
Hurry up T-Mobile! Does anyone have it confirmed that Wi Fi calling WILL use your plan minutes?

No OTA here yet either. I'm in los angeles, I figured I would have gotten it by now.
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It even says on the notification screen it'll use plan minutes.
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It even says on the notification screen it'll use plan minutes.
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Thanks man! I didn't know because I didn't get it yet. At least that question is answered. I'm in Long Beach, CA I thought I would've gotten it by now.... Hmm...

from what i can tell seems like not many on the west coast ahve gotten it yet, as i live in LA also. has anyone in los angeles recieved it yet?

I still haven't gotten my ota yet.. I really thought I was the only one. I really hope i get it soon.. I'm tired of these random shutoffs and I want my wifi calling! >_

I live in Chicago and have not gotten it yet. I will update it manually later this week when I'm not as busy.

Seattle. Still waiting. I don't think it has to do with your location though.
Does doing it manually update the radio as well?

In Philly and no update yet. Spoke with Tmob CS and they can't/won't do a manual push. I asked what next steps are starting tomorrow and she said to call their technical support line. I somehow doubt that all these folks are going to get it in the next 11-12 hrs magically.

Well it seems I'm not the only one. I don't have the tIME to call right now, but like others I'm getting anxious.
My call quality OS spotty at best and is like to see what the radio update does for that of anything. Plus the WiFi calling would be cool.
Waiting waiting waiting.......
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As far as I know doing it manually is identical to waiting for the OTA.

Just update manually. There's nothing magical about getting the OTA pushed to you compared to doing it youself. Its like picking up a pizza yourself instead of waiting for the delivery guy. You're still getting the same pizza.
Ok, now I'm hungry for pizza.
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I live in Atlanta. I am still waiting as well.

Thoughts on the Sprint Varient

Ive been a long time lurker on this site prolly since the GSII-- I dont post much then , or with me GSIII or Note 2- I guess thats why that account no longer exists. So with my purchase of the Note Edge i knew this would be my go to place for any information or eventually ROM's-- i gotta say that normally i never spent more then a day with Touchwiz- usually rooting and flashing within 24 hours of purchase. Ive had the phone foe about 4 days and.... HOLY MOLY this phone is slooow... so much crap is running-- 3gb of ram and 2 and half of it is always used-- sprint zone and fb keep updating and re downloading even though i continuously uninstall them daily and revert to original software versions. Now i finally understand peoples hatred towards touchwiz.. im used to ASOP-- I coulda swore touchwiz was NOT that bad in the GSII days ;-( although i have faith the dev. will take off eventually with this phone... if there were other options i might have considered going else where-- im coming from a rooted note2) But i dont think there is anything remotely better then samsung-- as bad ass as the phone is spec'd out to be i thought it would be as zippy as the nexus--- but it is most definitely slower then my note- Also since ive been ot of the loop this KNOX stuff is all new to me--basically from what i gathered by googling any root will void the warranty on the device? ive never ever sent a phone in to samsung but there is times ive gone to A Sprint tech center for help--will they turn me away if its 0x1? well i just wanted to stop by and say hi to this forum-- im beginning the process to acquire files so i can root my phone tonight-- id think the sky is the limit with the things we can do with out phones--- Much thanks to the DEV's that make this possible!!

Well your sprint one seems to be acting funny.. I'm on my T-Mobile Note Edge, and I started from the G1. This phone is really smooth, no errors, and for the first time really no reason for me to have to root my phone and get rid of bloat ware to speed things up! And that was before I disabled the bloat ware anyways. You could say I'm also waiting for a way to root without tripping Knox. I'm kinda curious how ASOP or CyanogenMod will look like on this phone, and if they'll be able to use the edge productively. I'm actually throughly pleased with the phone, especially with how the home launcher is setup. My only bug is the fact that the second favorite edge doesn't allow for reorganization. That's my 2 cents. I hope your experience becomes more enjoyable
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Let me restate...i kinda sounded like a whiney brat with my last/first post. I realize that we as a group aa the less then 1% that care about specs.. and ver numbers. Im just not used to TouchWiz trying to do everything for me yet not the things i want it to do. for example every time I touch it text entry field I have a keyboard icon on the top of the notification bar...prompting me to choose Input method EVERYTIME?!? everyday I get sprint zone adverts in my notification bar even though I uninstall it every night before bed.. and multiple times a day I'm asked if I would like to sign in for Picasa.. i say no 3 or 4 times a day.. i cant figure out how to delete it. I miss the custom roms where all this bs is not even installed. Granted i knew there wasn't much support when i took the jump.. and honestly these issues would be the same with the regular note 4... id most definitely be willing to throw some $ to a recocognized established dev out there ... im miss my paranoid android and illusion roms :-/ but i know nothing out there can compare to the note edge at the moment...!

I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.

I'm using the AT&T stock version and haven't encountered any issues except I waited to long to send it back to get the white version. Lol. Other than that I like the device.

nick.farinas said:
Ive been a long time lurker on this site prolly since the GSII-- I dont post much then , or with me GSIII or Note 2- I guess thats why that account no longer exists. So with my purchase of the Note Edge i knew this would be my go to place for any information or eventually ROM's-- i gotta say that normally i never spent more then a day with Touchwiz- usually rooting and flashing within 24 hours of purchase. Ive had the phone foe about 4 days and.... HOLY MOLY this phone is slooow... so much crap is running-- 3gb of ram and 2 and half of it is always used-- sprint zone and fb keep updating and re downloading even though i continuously uninstall them daily and revert to original software versions. Now i finally understand peoples hatred towards touchwiz.. im used to ASOP-- I coulda swore touchwiz was NOT that bad in the GSII days ;-( although i have faith the dev. will take off eventually with this phone... if there were other options i might have considered going else where-- im coming from a rooted note2) But i dont think there is anything remotely better then samsung-- as bad ass as the phone is spec'd out to be i thought it would be as zippy as the nexus--- but it is most definitely slower then my note- Also since ive been ot of the loop this KNOX stuff is all new to me--basically from what i gathered by googling any root will void the warranty on the device? ive never ever sent a phone in to samsung but there is times ive gone to A Sprint tech center for help--will they turn me away if its 0x1? well i just wanted to stop by and say hi to this forum-- im beginning the process to acquire files so i can root my phone tonight-- id think the sky is the limit with the things we can do with out phones--- Much thanks to the DEV's that make this possible!!
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root it and strip the rubbish and bloat, was da matta you?!
mine was slow and lagged like crazy from all the "indexservice" and annoying samsung crap running. i stripped it all and use CM cleanmaster and battery doctor. no autostarting apps and no bloat like weather and yahoo finance...
titanium backup to freeze or remove crap.
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Best variant ever!!! :highfive:
No problems since I pulled it out the box...

bignibb said:
I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.
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theres a fix listed in the note 4 root post. let me see if i can find it.
here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/general/easy-steps-stock-odin-n915tuvu1anjl-sm-t2943993 first post, midway

bignibb said:
I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jrummy.sdfix
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jrummy.sdfix
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even better

All those fixes are for rooted phones, i have not yet taken the plunge. I rooted my wife's note 4 but have just been hesitant to do my edge. I thought I was going to wait on lollipop but might not make it

Welp... enjoy your refusal

I wish there was a step by step thread on how to root the Sprint Edge and not any other variants because I don't wanna mix things up and brick my phone.

bignibb said:
I wish there was a step by step thread on how to root the Sprint Edge and not any other variants because I don't wanna mix things up and brick my phone.
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follow the steps in the link i posted but get the cf auto-root for the 915p. easy. i did it by following the link. if you screw up relax, you can fix it. but you will not screw up

cvaria said:
follow the steps in the link i posted but get the cf auto-root for the 915p. easy. i did it by following the link. if you screw up relax, you can fix it. but you will not screw up
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Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.

bignibb said:
Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.
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i would suggest at least reading the steps before asking questrions

bignibb said:
Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.
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I usually use CWM, but that's only because it's old school. Right now I chose not to install it in the last step of that thread because I have never used TWRP before. I have to say that I like the touch interface.

Besides getting the sprint variant of auto root you also need the sprint variant of TWRP. I posted a guide with basic steps including getting private mode working with xposed

For those that are here to help, thanks for pointing me to where I need to go, for those that posted about my needing to read, maybe you should spell check your snyde remarks before posting........lol
Sometimes its easier to answer a question and move on than to waste yours and my time. Yours by typing and not helping and mine by reading and not getting an answer.

bignibb said:
For those that are here to help, thanks for pointing me to where I need to go, for those that posted about my needing to read, maybe you should spell check your snyde remarks before posting........lol
Sometimes its easier to answer a question and move on than to waste yours and my time. Yours by typing and not helping and mine by reading and not getting an answer.
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look dude, i'm not trying to be a jerk but, you didn't even read the post. you just fired back a question. it's all right there in the in the link i posted, props to the creator, very well laid-out.
"RTFP"
nobody is going to baby you. you wanna root and do phone kung-fu, read!

So... My Verizon LG G4 shipped with "MODIFIED" firmware...

So a lil background on me... I'm very experienced in phone rooting and the like. I work for Best Buy Mobile, and see all the new stuff well before anyone else. I played with the LG G4 a month before release and it was love at first sight. Well I ordered mine thru my concessions line I have thru work and it arrived yesterday. I opened it, activated it and immediately turned on developers options, mainly because I knew some animations were turned off. Well, I had to look at the software version, and it said "MODIFIED".
I purchased the one with the leather back. It is completely stock, I've not even attempted to try root, if we even have it yet. Did anyone else purchase theirs and it have " MODIFIED" software?
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I'm not an expert, but that font is NOT the same as on my phone. Looks like it has indeed been customized to a certain extent.
If you're displeased with it, I'd exchange it for a new one.

Mejilan said:
I'm not an expert, but that font is NOT the same as on my phone. Looks like it has indeed been customized to a certain extent.
If you're displeased with it, I'd exchange it for a new one.
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You can change the font in settings.
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My VS986 says same thing. Bought at Verizon kiosk in BJs.
Doug B.

Same here. I imagine activating Developer's Options, and/or turning on debugging does it.

Pretty sure it said Modified before I turned on Dev Opts.
Doug B.

I read somewhere in this forums that a lot of Verizon G4 users claim that it arrived as modified. They suspected that Verizon disabling some functions, such as FM radio, might have caused it and didn't double check to see the software version.
If I were you I'll contact Verizon to double check.
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dvgb173 said:
Pretty sure it said Modified before I turned on Dev Opts.
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Either way, it doesn't mean anything. To us, regarding root, anyway.

I agree. Sounds like Verizon's build. Nothing more. That doesn't mean it doesn't suck though.
Doug B.

Just checked on my Verizon G4, and it currently says official next to software status.

Eagle1337 said:
You can change the font in settings.
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Woops, sorry about that.
For some reason, I thought replacing fonts required some fancier, higher level customization options.
Probably thinking back to my old iPhone jailbreak days. /shudders

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Just checked on my Verizon G4, and it currently says official next to software status.
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Yeah, I have the VS986 as well, and I show "Official" under status. I have USB debugging on as well. Bought the phone at Verizon this past Sunday

aosmer said:
Just checked on my Verizon G4, and it currently says official next to software status.
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When/where did you get it?
Doug B.

spotmark said:
Same here. I imagine activating Developer's Options, and/or turning on debugging does it.
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Mine def said modified before I did that. It just struck me as odd. Idk why it would say that.
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I bought mine from a Verizon store (not third party) on day 1. I have used Developer Options, USB Debugging, and connected via adb, and my software still says Official. Build is LMY47D, Config is J14.LGE.VS986.0

Yea I'm def not sure why mine says that at all. Mine was shipped to me. I guess it's nothing to really worry about really. Phone flies like I knew it would lol
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When/where did you get it?
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I picked it up 6/15 at my local Best Buy.

Mine says official.

I picked up mine from Verizon on Saturday, says "Official" .. enabled Developer mode .. rebooted .. still says "Official".

As stated on other threads, 'Modified' or 'Official' doesn't mean anything here.

Nougat update, to little to late?

I read the axon 7 won't get nougat till January I can only assume the mini might get it at the same time. Anybody else disappointed ? 7.1 is already out, but then who knows what will be available by then. i was thinking about swapping mine because it's getting useless reception but now I may just return it.

I just received an update. Makes it much smoother and faster.
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That's awesome I was starting to lose hope, mine has been sitting in the box to go back

FreedomJones said:
That's awesome I was starting to lose hope, mine has been sitting in the box to go back
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Do u still have the phone? Has it improved?
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Me Me ME . . . lol
bricky23 said:
I just received an update. Makes it much smoother and faster.
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Can you send me a link or a ripped zip for this i have 0nly b09 as I'm in UK and even then i had to goto
ztedevice-com/support (i cant leave links yet but obviously change the - to a . between ztedevice and com
to get it and theres no us to pick from i think i got it from the Spanish server i had b02 when new lol
so. . . any one got this ROM anywhere please???
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any of use have problems when using dual sims one cutting on / off etc?? or is it just me?, im on B02

sonnettie_ said:
Can you send me a link or a ripped zip for this i have 0nly b09 as I'm in UK and even then i had to goto
ztedevice-com/support (i cant leave links yet but obviously change the - to a . between ztedevice and com
to get it and theres no us to pick from i think i got it from the Spanish server i had b02 when new lol
so. . . any one got this ROM anywhere please???
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any of use have problems when using dual sims one cutting on / off etc?? or is it just me?, im on B02
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Ah sorry, I change phones allot. I have already moved on to the Mi Mix.

bricky23 said:
Ah sorry, I change phones allot. I have already moved on to the Mi Mix.
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ahh its all good the update fixed the dual sim problem must have been one of the TODO:'s lol cheers, anyone know where i can get i higher then B09 or a N 7.1 version??????

sonnettie_ said:
ahh its all good the update fixed the dual sim problem must have been one of the TODO:'s lol cheers, anyone know where i can get i higher then B09 or a N 7.1 version??????
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Did you get the american ROM? Or the German one? I am currently in the UK using the Spanish rom

Spanish version Axon mini B2017G
I got Spanish one of it on on English obviously and has all the right frequencies for UK well at least 4G & 3g as I have a H3G sim with dosen't connect to anything below 3G if you put a three,co,uk sim in a 2G fone it just says,no signal SOS calls only, or same if you set your phone to 2G only, don't know why this is maybe because the started there company when 3G came out and didn't see the point of paying or building backwards technology and knee it was a cheap waste of money and they were the 1st co to offer 3G in UK
. The phones where massive at the time I remember and I as they never really had much advertising campaigns I had no idea what what 3G was I thought it was a cheap Co using someone else's network and only selling a monopoly of massive cheap fones since others wouldn't work on there network lol, I now I see the were years ahead of there time, They had first internet fones, face to face calling etc etc , anyway waaay of topic here I can't find b21 American or the bets 7.1.2 b2 roms away where I'd love Nuagat on my axon mini swell but just have to wait or keep googling ftp site filetype:rar,zip,rom etc & "last modified" inurl:ftp "up to higher fitectory" d2017b b21 or b09 etc if I find it I will share it here in b09 already has been shared so , next one to I'll share cheers
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I got Spannish one of it on on English obviously and has all the right frequencies for UK well at least 4G & 3g as I have a H3G sim with dosen't connect to anything below 3G if you put a three,co,uk sim in a 2G fone it just says,no signal SOS calls only, or same if you set your phone to 2G only, don't know why this is maybe because the started there company when 3G came out and didn't see the point of paying or building backwards technology and knee it was a cheap waste of money and they were the 1st co to offer 3G in UK
. The phones where massive at the time I remember and I as they never really had much advertising campaigns I had no idea what what 3G was I thought it was a cheap Co using someone else's network and only selling a monopoly of massive cheap fones since others wouldn't work on there network lol, I now I see the were years ahead of there time, They had first internet fones, face to face calling etc etc , anyway waaay of topic here I can't find b21 American or the bets 7.1.2 b2 roms away where I'd love Nuagat on my axon mini swell but just have to wait or keep googling ftp site filetype:rar,zip,rom etc & "last modified" inurl:ftp "up to higher fitectory" d2017b b21 or b09 etc if I find it I will share it here in b09 already has been shared so , next one to I'll share cheers....