Stock rooted OP8Pro experience? - OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers

I'm interested in rooting my OP8PRO, but I want a stock experience and the ability to use Google Pay. I assume I can just root and install Magisk to allow that to happen?
Is there any specific drawback to rooting? Does RCS work still?

I'm coming from pixel and it takes a bit of work to get google pay to reliably work after rooting with magisk. With OnePlus so far it's easy after rooting. Both RCS and google pay works for me seamlessly.

Easy to take ota's, root, and stock is a favorite of many owners...

No detrimental effect due to rooting, the likes of google pay will still work so long as you activate systemless root you'll be fine.
it's what you do afterwards that has risk / effect.
Certain apps may notice the root access but the vast majority still function as expected.
Reversing root / unlocking of the bootloader also doesn't affect your warranty so there's that, plus it's almost impossible to brick a oneplus, unless you do something silly.
theres a tonne of guides out there to help you along, plus the ROM's are getting better, lot of great devs contributing, plus the 8 and 8T have some unified work so there's that too, plus a tonne of kernels.
RCS as in rich communication services? Yes that's fine.
I'm yet to find anything which hasn't been functional or improved.
Battery on elemental X or blu spark 10 hours SOT

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Do you feel the need to root?

I have been buying Android devices since the Nexus One. This is the first time I have ever bought a device and kept it stock for any period of time unless I was forced to do so due to a lack of root method. So, here I am one month later and I don't know if I really have any reason to root. I guess I could see myself flashing a kernel and maybe changing the system font. Anyone who is rooted, what kernel are you running and are you getting improved battery life? Any Xposed modules that are worth checking out? Or is everyone finally content running stock Android? It feels weird to not have the desire to root or jailbreak my phone. Just trying to get a pulse on what the rest of you are feeling...
Xposed doesn't exist for Nougat yet, so for now I'm missing out on 3 great features I always used. I use a custom kernel, and I feel the need to root many of the apps I use require it to work. (Titanium Backup, fkUpdater, AdAway, Lucky Patcher, etc)... however, at the moment it's at the sacrifice of one game that seems to detect the root and becomes unplayable. But it's still worth it, just in my opinion.
I want to root so i can install a rom that disables the navigation and hides the notification bar that way i get 100% full screen and i can use pie controls to navigate. This is the only reason i will end up rooting
To switch the on screen buttons and move the back button to the right side!!!
I want it for LMT but I haven't done it yet. So far I have unlocked the bootloader and that's it.
Oh and more options on Marcodroid.
I use root to enable tethering which alone saves me a good amount of money (Verizon unlimited data plan). I also use ElementalX kernel which adds swipe up to wake device which I find to be better than double tap to wake and lift to wake (I actually have them disabled)
I've had the pixel for about a month as well and I do not feel the urge to root. I'm completely stock. I haven't rooted a phone since my 6p. I had the Samsung S7 before this phone.
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I will not root until there are good custom ROMs which compel me to do so.
I didn't feel a need to root until the 7.1.1 update. 7.1.1 got rid of the verification work around for wifi tethering on UDPs and the only non-root method I have found to get it back requires me to pop the SIM card out. I am not about to carry (and likely lose) my sim card tool everywhere I go.
For me AdAway and substratum are the only reasons I root. No ads system wide and themes are essentials in my opinion.
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I have been buying Android devices since the Nexus One. This is the first time I have ever bought a device and kept it stock for any period of time unless I was forced to do so due to a lack of root method. So, here I am one month later and I don't know if I really have any reason to root. I guess I could see myself flashing a kernel and maybe changing the system font. Anyone who is rooted, what kernel are you running and are you getting improved battery life? Any Xposed modules that are worth checking out? Or is everyone finally content running stock Android? It feels weird to not have the desire to root or jailbreak my phone. Just trying to get a pulse on what the rest of you are feeling...
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I'm in the same situation. I generally always root but this time, I'm hesitant to do so just because it seems I don't need it. I'm happy with stock android now on the Pixel. The ONLY reason I may end up rooting is for Titanium Backup. I love me some Titanium Backup. Used it since launch.
I root for EX Kernel, debloating, AdAway & substratum
AdAway is the only reason for me as well, and for my last few phones. Amazing how cluttered stock phones look once you get used to ad blocking.
yes
ya adaway and custom kernels...days of roms are long gone
I've always been in a hurry to root my phones, but this time I barely have the itch to do it. I would only do it for titanium backup up or hotspot, but so far I haven't had the need for either. I bought the phone from Google and there wasn't a lot of bloat, so no need for titanium. I like hotspot for when I travel, but I'm not going to risk screwing up the phone with root and custom kernels just for hotspot.
I've also been using Android pay and I thinks it's awesome. I don't want to break that either
I root for viper4android
I root for Call Recorder from skvalex
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Very close to rooting just for AdAway. I've been using AdAway for years and forgot how bad ads are. It frustrates me how intrusive they have become.
Instead of AdAway try Adguard. Can't get it in Play Store but you can google it and download apk. It basically creates local VPN on your phone that you connect to it that blocks ads. No root necessary.

Why should I root?

Even though I never owned one until now, I've been following the OnePlus models ever since the One was released. I've used CyanogenMod and LineageOS on my previous phones, all of which have been rooted mostly to block ads, remove carrier bloat, and to try custom ROMs.
I'm very surprised with OxygenOS and despite having the T-Mobile branded version I'm not sure I want to go through with rooting it. I'm currently network unlocked and awaiting my unlock token. I'm currently using Blockada to block ads. It works well for the most part but doesn't seem as good as AdAway. Aside being able to run AdAway with root, what other reasons should I do it?
As far as I can tell the only bloat on my phone right now is the T-Mobile app and the T-Mobile unlock app. Despite being network unlocked, the Unlock app remained and just got disabled however using adb shell and the pm uninstall command it looks like that was removed. The T-Mobile app is disabled so that's not too much of an issue for me. I don't use YouTube when signed in so the regular version of YouTube Vanced works fine for me now unrooted.
I had Magisk running on my Nexus 5 which allowed me to be rooted and did a great job passing the safetynet checks. Does Magisk still do that effectively on the OP6T?
I'm thinking of not rooting anymore though I am interested in installing the non-Tmobile-branded OxygenOS. I've seen all the threads however it's difficult to read through hundreds of pages of posts. Will I be able to still get OTA updates from One plus, or at least be able to download and then manually install? Is the "International OOS version" the non-TMobile branded OS? I'm not a huge user of wifi calling, though I like having the option for areas with poor reception. Do I lose that when I get rid of the T-Mobile branded OOS?
Reasons For Rooting:
1) Youtube Vanced (Sign-in is a thing for me )
2) Adaway (In my opinion it's far better than blokada)
3) ViPER4Android (for superior speaker experience)
4) Customizing 3-rd party Kernels to fit your needs (underclock,overclock etc.)
5) Getting custom animations (such as McLaren fingerprint animation) and stuff like that.
I've been updating OOS with no problems. I really don't see a reason why someone would not root their OP6T.
@bassic
Long story short, it's stupid simple to convert. PM me when you have your unlock token and I'll walk you through it. I was extremely nervous at first, but it was honestly a breeze and updating to every released version of OOS was also worry-free. If you want, I'm on Telegram. Same username as here.
I'm on the TMO variant as well, and as far as I can tell the only reason to root is to convert to the international firmware. Out of that, there is no reason for root.
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For me I root because Google is being an asshole by restricting more and more apps that worked perfectly on Oreo. So now that we're on Pie I was actually forced to root in order to enjoy my phone fully. Swift is a big deal for me and I need it so I rooted. Now I can resume to apply my own themes to my apps (and system apps).
With root access I have call recording back. Another ability Google killed on Pie. Titanium Backup was also something I was missing. Being able to DELETE, not disable, ANY app that I want from my phone is just lovely.
I wish I could root but oh no they had to add more steps to do so... Unlock tokens? Seriously lol..... If I could root it would be viper4android for sure probably the best mod I've used since note 3
bassic said:
Even though I never owned one until now, I've been following the OnePlus models ever since the One was released. I've used CyanogenMod and LineageOS on my previous phones, all of which have been rooted mostly to block ads, remove carrier bloat, and to try custom ROMs.
I'm very surprised with OxygenOS and despite having the T-Mobile branded version I'm not sure I want to go through with rooting it. I'm currently network unlocked and awaiting my unlock token. I'm currently using Blockada to block ads. It works well for the most part but doesn't seem as good as AdAway. Aside being able to run AdAway with root, what other reasons should I do it?
As far as I can tell the only bloat on my phone right now is the T-Mobile app and the T-Mobile unlock app. Despite being network unlocked, the Unlock app remained and just got disabled however using adb shell and the pm uninstall command it looks like that was removed. The T-Mobile app is disabled so that's not too much of an issue for me. I don't use YouTube when signed in so the regular version of YouTube Vanced works fine for me now unrooted.
I had Magisk running on my Nexus 5 which allowed me to be rooted and did a great job passing the safetynet checks. Does Magisk still do that effectively on the OP6T?
I'm thinking of not rooting anymore though I am interested in installing the non-Tmobile-branded OxygenOS. I've seen all the threads however it's difficult to read through hundreds of pages of posts. Will I be able to still get OTA updates from One plus, or at least be able to download and then manually install? Is the "International OOS version" the non-TMobile branded OS? I'm not a huge user of wifi calling, though I like having the option for areas with poor reception. Do I lose that when I get rid of the T-Mobile branded OOS?
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A post wouldn't do rooting justice.
I've rooted more phones over the last 25 years than 99% of anyone posting here, and, the truth is, this phone doesnt NEED to be rooted; but, its nice that you can if you feel you must..I havent rooted this phone yet, even though I have had my "token" for weeks now, because, aside from missing Viper and substratum, there is nothing that rooting will enhance for me..
And, If you need to be talked into why you should root this phone, or any other phone, then I would say you dont need to root it..
moodloid said:
Reasons For Rooting:
1) Youtube Vanced (Sign-in is a thing for me )
2) Adaway (In my opinion it's far better than blokada)
3) ViPER4Android (for superior speaker experience)
4) Customizing 3-rd party Kernels to fit your needs (underclock,overclock etc.)
5) Getting custom animations (such as McLaren fingerprint animation) and stuff like that.
I've been updating OOS with no problems. I really don't see a reason why someone would not root their OP6T.
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I sort of agree with all of that, I would root because of all those things and the Stereo speaker mod...
however, I can't be bothered with the instability it brings, the apps that don't work (banking and TV apps in the UK) the lags, the pauses, the stalls, the crashes, the red text that tells you it's been tampered with....etc...etc...
I can do what I want without rooting on this phone, the black theme and being able to get rid of text on icons.
And Oxygen OS is so super fast and stable.
So for those reasons I am not rooting this phone!!!
:silly::silly:
My primary reason for probably rooting mine as soon as it pulls 9.0.10 down (still waiting, here in US, stuck on .7) is to be able to backup and restore apps and their data at will. I don't understand why Google hasn't made this a standard functionality. I mean for gosh sakes, how hard would it be?
I unwrapped mine yesterday and wasn't planning on transferring my flag to it (from my rooted 3T) yet, but one thing led to another and here I am. I was able to get some stuff over via Google, some stuff via OnePlust switch, and some things via their own clouds, and other things manually set up. So if I bootloader unlock and root I have to re-set-it-up of course. I have Titanium backups in the cloud of everything on my 3T as of 9 am yesterday so restoring onto a rooted phone is no big problem.
For the record on my 3T I had no problems with instability due to rooting, and banking and streaming apps worked fine under Magisk.
eskimosound said:
I sort of agree with all of that, I would root because of all those things and the Stereo speaker mod...
however, I can't be bothered with the instability it brings, the apps that don't work (banking and TV apps in the UK) the lags, the pauses, the stalls, the crashes, the red text that tells you it's been tampered with....etc...etc...
I can do what I want without rooting on this phone, the black theme and being able to get rid of text on icons.
And Oxygen OS is so super fast and stable.
So for those reasons I am not rooting this phone!!!
:silly::silly:
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Lags, crashes because of just rooting? That's unheard of...
ram4ufriends said:
Lags, crashes because of just rooting? That's unheard of...
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I come from years of rooting HTC phones and they all lagged and randomly crashed after rooting.
Fact not fiction and certainly heard of, Google is your friend.
yep, rooting can definitely cause all of those problems, and, at the same time, rooting can allow you to do things that fix all those problems, so, as with everything else electronic/hi tech, someone may have a different experience than someone else..
in the past, many folks rooted to get rid of bloat, and speed up their phones; with this phone, neither of those things apply, so performance wise, rooting wont do much to make this phone "faster"..
wase4711 said:
I've rooted more phones over the last 25 years than 99% of anyone posting here, and, the truth is, this phone doesnt NEED to be rooted; but, its nice that you can if you feel you must..I havent rooted this phone yet, even though I have had my "token" for weeks now, because, aside from missing Viper and substratum, there is nothing that rooting will enhance for me..
And, If you need to be talked into why you should root this phone, or any other phone, then I would say you dont need to root it..
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Thanks! That's what I'm looking for. I've done my share of rooting and have tried countless ROMs over the years from way back on my HTC EVO which got me started with Android. I typically rooted to remove carrier bloat, change themes, speed things up, etc. Then I discovered the Nexus devices which I fell in love with. There wasn't any bloat to remove but I did need to modify my hosts file. When HD streaming became an issue, Magisk fixed all that for me. When the Nexus line was replaced by the Pixel, it came along with flagship phone pricing which turned me away. Thankfully OnePlus is still available and making great phones. I don't need the stereo speaker mod since headphones (with the @#$%& USB-C adapter!) are sufficient so really I don't have much of a reason to root. On all my previous devices I didn't like the fact that a bunch of apps were always running in the background and phoning home when they had no business doing so, and I had Greenify configured to keep them all quiet. With the battery management and background data restriction options on the OP6T, I've effectively achieved the same functionality without needing to root.
It still bugs me that the disabled T-Mobile app is still present, and I'm not a huge fan of the branded phone with boot animation, but I'm very happy with this phone and Oxygen OS and I don't have any compelling reason to root right now. There's no bloat outside of the T-mobile stuff, the phone is blazing fast, and it just works. I think I answered my question and I'm OK with not rooting.
I am interested in flashing the non-T-Mobile-branded OxygenOS version to remove the branding and to get system updates from OnePlus faster than from T-Mobile, however I have a bunch of settings that took me a while to adjust to my liking and I really don't feel like re-doing all of that. Are there any recommended utilities that would be able to conveniently restore all of my apps and individual settings after flashing the unbranded OS?
I've already made a post about rooting and the 6T but since no one searches and everyone has to be a thread starter I'll clear up a few misconceptions...
moodloid said:
Reasons For Rooting:
1) Youtube Vanced (Sign-in is a thing for me )
2) Adaway (In my opinion it's far better than blokada)
3) ViPER4Android (for superior speaker experience)
4) Customizing 3-rd party Kernels to fit your needs (underclock,overclock etc.)
5) Getting custom animations (such as McLaren fingerprint animation) and stuff like that.
I've been updating OOS with no problems. I really don't see a reason why someone would not root their OP6T.
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1.) Doesn't require root
2.) Doesn't require root
3.) Nice to have and missed but given my personal usage (as I have much better devices to listen to audio on it's not a deal breaker)
4.) Phone has good enough performance and battery life not necessary but whatever floats a user's boat.
5.) Yes need root but fall back to #4
roaduardo said:
With root access I have call recording back. Another ability Google killed on Pie. Titanium Backup was also something I was missing. Being able to DELETE, not disable, ANY app that I want from my phone is just lovely.
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Call recording can be added on a non-rooted phone (jOnePlus Tools in Play Store) as I have it and it restores automatically on every reboot. Deleting vs disabling you don't gain any free space on your DATA partition so not a big deal to me. I will agree that Titanium Backup yes sorely missed.
wase4711 said:
I've rooted more phones over the last 25 years than 99% of anyone posting here, and, the truth is, this phone doesnt NEED to be rooted; but, its nice that you can if you feel you must..I havent rooted this phone yet, even though I have had my "token" for weeks now, because, aside from missing Viper and substratum, there is nothing that rooting will enhance for me..
And, If you need to be talked into why you should root this phone, or any other phone, then I would say you dont need to root it..
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Exactly.
What you will miss with root (if you use said apps) is DRM L1 Windvine encryption. I'm a subscriber to YouTube TV (users of Netflix & Amazon Video will suffer same issues) and you get 720x480 instead of 1280x720 or 1920x1080. The resolution is not a big deal given it's roughly a 6" screen but dropping from 60 FPS to 30 FPS is a disaster for sports and I will not compromise on that one.
Once the bootloader is unlocked you drop to L3. To go back to L1 it's relock of bootloader which means bye-bye root.
Nosferatu. said:
Call recording can be added on a non-rooted phone as I have it and it restores automatically on every reboot.
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Via what method and on Pie?
roaduardo said:
Via what method and on Pie?
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I edited my above post.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jroot3d.joneplustools&hl=en_US
Install that, jump start the app once on a computer (it'll give you directions when you launch the app) and that's it. Enjoy call recording no Magisk modules nor root required. I'm on international 256GB model 9.0.10 no problem.
Nosferatu. said:
I edited my above post.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jroot3d.joneplustools&hl=en_US
Install that, jump start the app once on a computer (it'll give you directions when you launch the app) and that's it. Enjoy call recording no Magisk modules nor root required. I'm on international 256GB model 9.0.10 no problem.
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Well that's neat. 6T users who don't wanna root should know about this app. Thanks for sharing!
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moodloid said:
Reasons For Rooting:
1) Youtube Vanced (Sign-in is a thing for me )
2) Adaway (In my opinion it's far better than blokada)
3) ViPER4Android (for superior speaker experience)
4) Customizing 3-rd party Kernels to fit your needs (underclock,overclock etc.)
5) Getting custom animations (such as McLaren fingerprint animation) and stuff like that.
I've been updating OOS with no problems. I really don't see a reason why someone would not root their OP6T.
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Can we not get the Youtube Vanced with sign in without root? Used to have that on my Note 8 without any root. Could you explain this please?

Root: Yeah or Nah

Guys, I need your opinion on something.
I have the 6T for one month now, and on the first day I got it I rooted immediately, but I ran into bootloop after a few hours. So I decided to go back to stock and deal with this following problem when I have some spare time.
I have some free time on my hands now to handle the problem. My bootloader of course is unlocked and everything is ready to just flash magisk.
But I am really annoyed by the message when you start your phone up, that your phone is insecure and that you have to download whole system updates when they get released.
But then, on my previous phone, the OP2, I was all about rooting, and flashing stuff and I'm kind of sad to leave this rooting community.
So what do you suggest, is it still worth it to root on the 6T or should I revert everything back to stock and relock my bootloader?
myloarsul said:
Guys, I need your opinion on something.
I have the 6T for one month now, and on the first day I got it I rooted immediately, but I ran into bootloop after a few hours. So I decided to go back to stock and deal with this following problem when I have some spare time.
I have some free time on my hands now to handle the problem. My bootloader of course is unlocked and everything is ready to just flash magisk.
But I am really annoyed by the message when you start your phone up, that your phone is insecure and that you have to download whole system updates when they get released.
But then, on my previous phone, the OP2, I was all about rooting, and flashing stuff and I'm kind of sad to leave this rooting community.
So what do you suggest, is it still worth it to root on the 6T or should I revert everything back to stock and relock my bootloader?
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I rooted for a couple reasons only and they were to use adaway again and Substratum Swift Black. I'm not a fan of the insecure message either. This is the first time I've rooted in a few years. I used All In One tool to root.
I think the reasons for rooting are minimal, but it all depends on what you want. The thing that I keep hearing from everyone (and I agree with):
Root to allow yourself to block ads (Adaway or Energized) and Viper4Android. If you like to theme your phone, Substratum is also fun to play around with. Otherwise, I'd say it's not worth it. My personal preference for rooting is for the already mentioned, and also because I don't like to be held back by anything I want to do to my phone in the future. If I find an annoyance with the phone, I can almost always get rid of it with some root modification.
I posted a similar question recently.
OMGWTFISTHIS said:
Root to allow yourself to block ads (Adaway or Energized) and Viper4Android. If you like to theme your phone, Substratum is also fun to play around with. Otherwise, I'd say it's not worth it. My personal preference for rooting is for the already mentioned, and also because I don't like to be held back by anything I want to do to my phone in the future. If I find an annoyance with the phone, I can almost always get rid of it with some root modification.
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My main reason for rooting all my prior phones was to install AdAway, Greenify (to manage battery performance and kill background apps), and to remove carrier or manufacturer bloat. With the 6T and the latest OxygenOS, I don't really have a need for Greenify and at least on the non T-mobile variant there's no bloat, leaving AdAway as the only reason for me to root. I'm currently using Blockada along with an adblocking DNS which doesn't seem as efficient as AdAway however it's still effective, leaving me with no real reason to root at the moment, but I feel better knowing that I can easily root it at any time if I need to.
Another downside to rooting is that you lose Widevine L1, preventing you from streaming HD content (netflix, amazon video, hulu, etc.). More specifically, there's no way to be rooted with a locked bootloader, and if your bootloader is unlocked your phone is only Widevine L3 compliant, meaning no HD content. This may not be a dealbreaker (SD content is still very watchable on these tiny screens) but it's another thing to consider.
I haven't rooted in a few years. Once I stopped buying carrier bloated phones, buying direct from a manufacturer, most don't have any bloat or blocked features that I need. With the size of space on the built in SD cards, storage for me isn't a problem. I just block em and that is good enough for me.
As for blocking ads, I just use Adguard premium, which blocks about 99% of ads on websites as well as in app ads.
In "the old days" I would root my phone before even setting it up.
So far the only thing I'm really missing is CF.Lumen without root. It's a real shame that the high quality mode can't be achieved without rooting. Otherwise, I'm using Blockada and it seems good enough (I've whitelisted Firefox and installed uBlock Origin there).

Lots of questions

Hey guys, I’ve been off android for about 3-4 years now, but I’m purchasing a 6t today through t-mobile and I have a few questions before I may decide to root.
1) I know there is this feature a lot of apps use now a days called safety net. I play Pokémon go pretty frequently and it does perform a safety net check (I know because I had to unroot an old back up phone just to play) is there any way to have root and somehow pass safety net?
2) I’m looking for a google pixel like experience, I see there are a couple roms on here for that, but if I avoid the root path is there a launcher that gives me all the round icons like a google pixel with the same look and feel?
3) random questions but how does everyone here like the phone? Camera quality is huge to me and I’m coming from an iPhone with great camera quality, is there any tips to improve the camera on this device? How is battery life in the real world?
4) everyone’s favorite rom? There doesn’t seem to be a lot of options which surprised me for this phone. I honestly thought dev would be off the charts for this phone.
Thanks for taking the time. Back in the day I would have sat for endless hours researching all of this to avoid the “use search” trollers.. But nowadays I work 70 hours a week and have kids to attend to, so free time is limited.
Thanks guys
I love my 6T, coming from a 3T. LG and Samsung before that. This 6T is a beast!
First, skip the T-Mo version, particularly if you plan to root. You will have to jump through hoops to get it unlocked if you buy direct from OnePlus.
The stock ROM is excellent and things have come a long way over the years. I was planning to root, but so far haven't bothered. I used to root largely to let me use Titanium backup and freeze functions, but the phone is fine as is and most stuff backs up via Google or cloud now well enough.
The stock experience is clean; I use Nova Launcher BTW and it plays nice.
If you do root, Magisk can get most apps past safety net checks but one thing that has no solution is the streaming app DRM check; if you unlock bootloader to root, you drop from L1 and HD capable to L3 low res streaming. May not matter for you. Some people report this is reversible (relock bootloader, get L1 back) but others don't get it back.
ROM wise, I believe no ROM supports the in display fingerprint reader yet, so that's a drawback if you leave the stock or rooted nearly stock world.
Seriously get a 6T from OnePlus, try it out. You may find that everything is fine stock out of the box.
Good luck!
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Anything new with Samsung?

So about 6 months ago I finally did away with my 10+ after losing root constantly for stupid reasons. Didn't want to go with any newer Samsung because I'd only heard negative with respect to modding. I decided on a downgrade and went with the Oneplus 8T5G. To say there are more modding options is an understatement and I've had no problems keeping root. However, after using a high end Samsung for the past 10 years or so it is noticeable when downgrading to a cheaper phone. In my case, it's mainly the camera I miss and is enough to make me switch back, ONLY IF there is a Galaxy with easy root options(and keep root) with a good camera like what's on the 10+ and later Galaxys. I haven't kept up with the Samsung forums for about a year so I'm relying on people to help me out with real world experience and what they would recommend. Thanks in advance
The reason's to root have diminished. Samsung and Android in general have given us tools that they've learned from the rooted environments. Obviously, that still remains a personal matter.
If you want to insist in root, and crave a good camera, then go for an Exynos variant S22 Ultra, since that will most probably be that last Exynos phone, S23 will be internationally Snapdragon.
I assume you kept "losing root" due to Snapdragon's way of obtaining root?
PlutoDelic said:
The reason's to root have diminished. Samsung and Android in general have given us tools that they've learned from the rooted environments. Obviously, that still remains a personal matter.
If you want to insist in root, and crave a good camera, then go for an Exynos variant S22 Ultra, since that will most probably be that last Exynos phone, S23 will be internationally Snapdragon.
I assume you kept "losing root" due to Snapdragon's way of obtaining root?
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I kept losing root because I procrastinate and let the battery die. Still shouldn't lose root though, right? It was a 975F. Exynos. And I really only want root for Adaway and Termux root functions.
For ads, i can recommend the Shield app, the firewall does a good job in blocking ads.
I understand the termux part, however, if you flash a custom recovery, you shouldn't have problems having Magisk persisting.
Sorry for my input if things have changed that much, last phone i rooted was my Note 8.
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For ads, i can recommend the Shield app, the firewall does a good job in blocking ads.
I understand the termux part, however, if you flash a custom recovery, you shouldn't have problems having Magisk persisting.
Sorry for my input if things have changed that much, last phone i rooted was my Note 8.
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I appreciate the recommendation. Things have changed, in my experience anyway.

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