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I've rooted my last 3 phones, and for the longest time, considered it an essential step in the true Android experience.
But let's be honest, rooting is a bit of a PITA. You risk destroying your warranty, which worries me with a phone that I got on launch day. You have issues with OTA updates. If you load a custom ROM, you're blowing away all your settings each time you load an update. There's more, but I won't keep going.
Of course, there are a LOT of benefits, too. Most of them, however, are ways around annoying little nits that I have, and with this phone, I find fewer of those nits, and far fewer items that are larger than nits. With the improvements in Android and with a good launcher, I can completely hide away all of the annoying Sprint and Samsung apps.
If I rooted this phone, these are the benefits that I think I could realize are: Getting rid of the volume warning (nit), changing my boot animation (nit), Titanium backup (which I don't really need if I'm not constantly loading a new ROM), better ad blocking (nit), the ability to remove unwanted apps (bit of a nit, but it would be beneficial to reclaim the ram and storage space), and probably the biggest - wifi hotspot (which I rarely use, but I will miss if I don't have it).
I'm curious if anyone else thinks this same way about this phone. Are there other serial rooters who are not rooting the S6?
well, first thing I did with my S6 was to load custom recovery and custom ROM
Still on the same boat, don't want to trip knox by installing a custom recovery or custom kernel and not knowing what ping-pong root really does is a little worrisome.
When considering whether to root or not your S6, remember that there is a debloat method which doesn't require root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/safe-to-debloat-s6-threads-t3090383.
I agree with OP: as time passes by and Android evolves there are less and less "serious" reasons to root a phone.
Pingpong is pretty safe(warranty wise) and it's easy to reflash your stock rom. I usually never root on first day but now I saw no reason not to.
Having had a rooted phone since the days of cupcake I wasn't sure what I was getting into when I got my Xperia Z2 before it was rootable with a locked bootloader and in those few months I discovered I could live without titanium backup if I wasn't flashing roms left right and centre but I hadn't realised how pervasive ads had become in the mobile world and it was something that really bugged me, as the non-root blocking methods didn't give me much joy, so when root was finally achieved I knew I couldn't live without ad-blocking.
Fast-forward a year and I was holding off the S6 for the precise reason of not being able to root without tripping knox (which given the track record of my S2, S3 & S4 all needing to be repaired under warranty I cannot afford to do), but I ended up getting it thanks to breaking my Z2, with the hope of something like pingpong coming soon enough. This time again I found it painful dealing with the ads again but to add to that there's the frankly rubbish battery in this phone compared with my old Z2, and I was having little joy zapping all the wakelocks until I got root and greenify.
So TLDR, can't live without proper ad-blocking and greenify is essential for the S6 if you actually want to have a reasonable amount of functionality without carrying around a charger.
As for me, I like rooting so I can remove bloat, freezing an app is not the same as removing it and I can't stand ads. Do what you like, I have never had issues with warranties even with knox tripped. I have had the S, S3, S4, and now the S6 and I have never had to use the warranty, which expires after the first year anyway.
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As for me, I like rooting so I can remove bloat, freezing an app is not the same as removing it and I can't stand ads. Do what you like, I have never had issues with warranties even with knox tripped. I have had the S, S3, S4, and now the S6 and I have never had to use the warranty, which expires after the first year anyway.
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well, Samsung offers 2 years warranty, here in Europe anyway.
I have rooted pretty much every single android phone I have owned and with the superb debloater app I have zero need for root now and unless Samsung do something which is very invasive I cannot see any reason to root in the future,
That and the fact I have heard of stories of ping pong root tripping knox on some devices is worrying.
I rooted every phone which I had on the first day and never had problems with warranty but the phones hasn't knox. My note 3 was rooted too but there wasn't any reason sending to repair.
Now with the s6 I don't need the root.
The Rom is debloated for. There was only Microsoft and Vodafone apps. I use them both so no reason to debloat.
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I haven't and wont root this phone. I use adblock browser which gives me a perfect ad free browsing experience. I use zero apps which bombard me with annoying ads I can't ignore, I have plenty of space on my phone, and custom Rom's won't make it faster or more stable or improve battery life so personally there's no point.
I go back and forth with the idea of rooting. Right now, there's no method for my build - so, I want to root. Previously, when there was a method for build - I didn't root. I'm kinda of the similar thought as the OP...is there really a need to root anymore? The majority of the reasons/features we rooted our phones for in the first place are now part of Android. If I do root, it will be to get the maximum benefit out of using Greenify and TB.
I've rooted all my previous android devices and this is the first phone that I don't feel like I need rooting. I did go through the process with PingPong-root so that I could clean up some apps but after I couldn't get OTA's I went and restored it to factory settings. With Nova Launcher and the ability to inactivate most of the apps I don't use I don't see the need of rooting it just yet..
I decided that I couldn't live without rooting. Those "Nits" drive crazy and I like the freedom. But I have pretty much decided to not put any custom Roms on. No matter what I end up with bugs that just aren't on the Stock Rom.
I unrooted a few days ago to fix Google now (I broke it somehow) and am having a hard time redoing it. Other then modding the themes..I can't find another reason. Most of the time I break stuff anyways lol so might be better if I dont!
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I decided that I couldn't live without rooting. Those "Nits" drive crazy and I like the freedom. But I have pretty much decided to not put any custom Roms on. No matter what I end up with bugs that just aren't on the Stock Rom.
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Yeah that's the only way I do it. I just root the stock rom and get rid of the ads. Backup my apps with titanium backup. All the usual things that I can't do with a non rooted phone.
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My biggest reason I'd consider rooting is AirAudio -> Airport Express devices.
I need root as I use the automation app tasker an awful lot. I haven't purchased an s6 yet but it is something I am debating. It is between the s6 and N6 but either way I will be rooting whichever I choose
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I decided that I couldn't live without rooting. Those "Nits" drive crazy and I like the freedom. But I have pretty much decided to not put any custom Roms on. No matter what I end up with bugs that just aren't on the Stock Rom.
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Which method did you opt for with regards to rooting?
Flashed TWRP and the rooted from there. Knox is tripped - O-Well. I did it before the other methods were available...
I have been using my Nexus 6 ever since I abandoned Apple. I owned every iPhone from the 3GS to the 6. I picked up my 64GB Cloud White from Amazon when they were $250 and haven't looked back since. I've always been a big techy and can't believe I stayed on boring IOS so long.
That said, when I first got my Nexus 6 of course I started trying out some custom ROMs. Pure Nexus ended up being my favorite. I just liked being able to mod my status and nav bar really. It was fun trying out ROMs, Kernels, etc. It was all new to me.
Now, I've come to the point where it just doesn't really matter to me. I prefer Android to IOS regardless. The damn App drawer is enough to make me never go back. I like stock Android the way it is. I also like using and having the ability to use Android Pay. So I roll stock. I take my OTAs and Security updates as they come and call it a day.
So, why do you prefer custom ROMs / Kernels and having ROOT to stock Android? Like, what are your deal breakers that pull you from stock to rooted / custom ROMs and Kernels?
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Thank you all for your responses. I was in no way trying to down people for modding out their own property, I was actually looking to see why some people feel root / roms are required. I just read through all of the responses and I seen quite a few that I didn't even know about or think of. Interesting.
Techbyte said:
I have been using my Nexus 6 ever since I abandoned Apple. I owned every iPhone from the 3GS to the 6. I picked up my 64GB Cloud White from Amazon when they were $250 and haven't looked back since. I've always been a big techy and can't believe I stayed on boring IOS so long.
That said, when I first got my Nexus 6 of course I started trying out some custom ROMs. Pure Nexus ended up being my favorite. I just liked being able to mod my status and nav bar really. It was fun trying out ROMs, Kernels, etc. It was all new to me.
Now, I've come to the point where it just doesn't really matter to me. I prefer Android to IOS regardless. The damn App drawer is enough to make me never go back. I like stock Android the way it is. I also like using and having the ability to use Android Pay. So I roll stock. I take my OTAs and Security updates as they come and call it a day.
So, why do you prefer custom ROMs / Kernels and having ROOT to stock Android? Like, what are your deal breakers that pull you from stock to rooted / custom ROMs and Kernels?
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Mostly due to the locked down nature. You have to remember where you are. This site was made by and for developers that take what they are given and want to make it better. You will find that most people here dont run stock software on anything. Be it their router, PC, PS4, X1 or anything else they can get their hands on.
Personally Android pay is not big for most of us. It is unsecure and not really handy when you have to carry your wallet anyway.
In the end it is all about choice. Many of my homescreen set ups require root to run.
The biggest thing for me is to theme it. Android stock just looks too ugly for me to even think about using.
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... from stock to rooted / custom ROMs and Kernels?
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Layers and blacked out apps of the TBO-team.
For better readability and battery life I prefer a black/dark background.
Without root this configuration is not possible.
A child knows that a white background on devices with an amoled display causes battery drain. Apparently Google does not know that .
For the same reason you rooted and rom'd in the first place: customizations.
I'm quite picky on how everything is laid out and stock android doesn't give me most options that current roms like pure nexus offers while still having amazing performance.
Simple things like rearranging the quick drawer wasn't even available on stock until marshmallow came out while custom roms could do it way before then.
Dpi settings and xposed modules are enough for me to root.
roms/kernels, and so on.. not really important to me. sure, they are nice to have, but not a necessity. the only thing thats necessary to me is root. not because of what 98% of you are thinking, but for what root actually is, to have access to all the administrative rights. stock or custom rom, as long as i am #1 in deciding the fate of my device.
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.....to have access to all the administrative rights. stock or custom rom, as long as i am #1 in deciding the fate of my device.
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I like that. The principal. But the majority accepts the fact of paying a lot of money for a device with reduced functionality.
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I like that. The principal. But the majority accepts the fact of paying a lot of money for a device with reduced functionality.
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the majority also do whatever their neighbor(or friend, family member, and so on..) does, just because. im not in the majority, nor do i ever want to be.. :angel:
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the majority also do whatever their neighbor(or friend, family member, and so on..) does, just because. im not in the majority, nor do i ever want to be.. :angel:
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ill drink to that!:good::good:
At this point the biggest reason for root for me now, is app backups. Google has gotten a better, but being able to back up my apps and data for easy restore is a must. Sat what you will about Apple, but since day 1 you could plug your iPhone into iTunes and make a complete backup of it.
but who was xposed? almost unlimited customizations, need root but you can do it over a stock base
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I use stock ROMs, but custom kernels for access to kcal color control especially. I read a lot on my nexus including at night, and I like being able to control light color (which relates to eye strain and can affect sleep) with precision. Reading apps have gotten better about offering at least some blue light-free reading modes, but back when they didn't, I got accustomed to having complete control and it's too late for me to settle for Amazon's presets or anyone else's, I can achieve the same color experience no matter what app I use (incl browsers, news readers etc). Second, I prefer the LED for notifications. Third, I like undervolting. Fourth, titanium backup for multiple reasons, but if an app update ever breaks something, I don't have to sweat it, I can roll that back to a working version no trouble.
Add blocking is important to me.
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Pie controls, adjustable screen dpi, adjust screen colors and vibration strength, skip songs with volume button, titanium backup, custom recovery. I'm sure there are more but those are the ones I can think of right now. I just like tweaking the device to make it a more effective tool.
I use a light stock rom and lean kernel which is close to stock as well. Just gotta have root and xposed.
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Let me answer with another question. Do you expect people, especially in a place like XDA, to be content with locked down device?
I have my own hobby project, to make my own custom rom, so that's why I'm not stock, but the only thing I really need is to have root.
All the changes I made were mostly to put my stamp on it, to make it mine, but I've also fixed some stupid things like you can only invoke the Clock application from the status bar if there's a scheduled alarm, instead of tapping any clock or date fields.
Also I brought back the old Electron beam screen off animation, because that was cool. Now I can choose between None, Electron Beam, and the new Color fade. And allowed the dismiss all button, of course.
I don't for the same reason I use Arch I want what I want and no more.
I recently rooted again, primarily because I missed the flexibility that comes with rooting. Deleting apps that you never use. Clear themes. Ad Blocking. If my credit union had Android Pay, I would probably still be stock unrooted.
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Tethering without blowing up my data... I am looking at you Verizon. Gotta give the man a finger. Root coz I can.
Plus ads. If they come up with a way to filter the ads and allow tethering without forcing me to pay extra I would I would gladly stay stock.
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Katt50 said:
I recently rooted again, primarily because I missed the flexibility that comes with rooting. Deleting apps that you never use. Clear themes. Ad Blocking. If my credit union had Android Pay, I would probably still be stock unrooted.
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I'm on dp3 and rooted with su2.74. I was able to load cards in android pay and it passed that safety net app. I'm going to try and make a purchase tomorrow. If it works, hooray for DP3.
I used Android pay on rooted N. I hope they leave that feature available with root in the final release.
I'm currently running stock N preview 3 but when I was running rooted it was mainly to access the notification led.
Sadly I have a few streaming apps that refuse to work while rooted and I got tired of fighting them.
Just to make it easier, heres the redirect link to main post by @me2151
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/development/root-samfail-galaxy-note8-t3685340
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I rooted the phone and changed my boot animation but I really don't see the point of rooting and I rooted every phone I owned.
Hotspot was already patched before root
Phone has themes stock
Lost 20% battery life with root
Not able to locate the normal files to boost my sound
Idk if it's just me but disabling apps and all the other things I used to use for root android has pretty much made those features available.
Plus there's a few apps I can't use because of safetynet, so honestly I don't feel much of a benefit.
I love root but this is the first time I don't feel I need it.
Dbzfan said:
I rooted the phone and changed my boot animation but I really don't see the point of rooting and I rooted every phone I owned.
Hotspot was already patched before root
Phone has themes stock
Lost 20% battery life with root
Not able to locate the normal files to boost my sound
Idk if it's just me but disabling apps and all the other things I used to use for root android has pretty much made those features available.
Plus there's a few apps I can't use because of safetynet, so honestly I don't feel much of a benefit.
I love root but this is the first time I don't feel I need it.
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Free paid themes from Samsung?
ThaHaloMilitia said:
Free paid themes from Samsung?
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Still not worth it anymore in my opinion.
Can even wps attack without root. I used to load kali Linux but no point anymore.
Now if I could get root for magisk I wouldn't mind it (hidden root)
Dbzfan said:
I rooted the phone and changed my boot animation but I really don't see the point of rooting and I rooted every phone I owned.
Hotspot was already patched before root
Phone has themes stock
Lost 20% battery life with root
Not able to locate the normal files to boost my sound
Idk if it's just me but disabling apps and all the other things I used to use for root android has pretty much made those features available.
Plus there's a few apps I can't use because of safetynet, so honestly I don't feel much of a benefit.
I love root but this is the first time I don't feel I need it.
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Totally agree. I've rooted every Android phone I've owned, except this one. No need to anymore in my mind.
does this root work on the bql9 update
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does this root work on the bql9 update
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yeah, i just finished making the bql9 update, i currently have a dec sec patch rom out that is bqla (tmobiles) release of dec sec patch. essentially the same thing only 1 app i see that differs between the 2 updates (sprint vs tmob)
but as long as you your firmware is rev2 ( usq2 or older usq1 ) then you can samfail.. Once 8.0 oreo launches it will be a usq3 bootloader and will lock you to anything 3 or newer and samfail does NOT work for 8.0 and wont ever work as it is. The security policy updates in 8.0 lock selinux on and is set to never be over-ridden and set to permissive.
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yeah, i just finished making the bql9 update, i currently have a dec sec patch rom out that is bqla (tmobiles) release of dec sec patch. essentially the same thing only 1 app i see that differs between the 2 updates (sprint vs tmob)
but as long as you your firmware is rev2 ( usq2 or older usq1 ) then you can samfail.. Once 8.0 oreo launches it will be a usq3 bootloader and will lock you to anything 3 or newer and samfail does NOT work for 8.0 and wont ever work as it is. The security policy updates in 8.0 lock selinux on and is set to never be over-ridden and set to permissive.
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I was wondering if my phone would work. I kinda dropped off the tech world recently because of work and now I have a baby at home. I kinda forgot what to look for and have you figured out the 80% battery bug.
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I was wondering if my phone would work. I kinda dropped off the tech world recently because of work and now I have a baby at home. I kinda forgot what to look for and have you figured out the 80% battery bug.
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no its not really a bug per say. The combo boot.img is set to restrict battery capacity at 80% full. There is no FIX for this unless we can get bootloader unlocked.
I know the Dev of the WETA mod over on the tmobile side got creative with his mod. Essentially built a 3minit hack that adjusts the battery percent up to 80% to simulate a full charge, but this isnt fixing anything, just making you feel better seeing 100% at the end of the charging period lol
That and the display FPS bug caused by the boot.img. Periodically when unlocking phone the screen will be kinda jacked up and running on super low fps and glitchy, locking and unlocking screen resolves this bug.
In all im 100% root all the way. even if i dont use anything root enabled i want the ability to do so and i like building the roms/updates as they release and learn/watch what changes each revision.
I too have rooted nearly all my phones except when root method needed adb can't get adb working on Windows 10. However want to root my Note 8 Snapdragon but can't find a single custom Rom for it! Exynos yes not snapdragon. So anybody know how to get adb working on Windows 10?
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I too have rooted nearly all my phones except when root method needed adb can't get adb working on Windows 10. However want to root my Note 8 Snapdragon but can't find a single custom Rom for it! Exynos yes not snapdragon. So anybody know how to get adb working on Windows 10?
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Ive stayed rooted since my first S3 myself and at this point, Im almost regretting my shiny new N8! I remember not being able to swing a cat by the tail without smacking it into a different ROM that I had to make room for! Trying 2 or 3 new specimens every night. But now, it feels like dried up wells and tumbleweed. Thanks Samsung. God forbid we should do what we want to do with the gizmos we shelled out all that granola for. I'm just trying to keep V4A cuz it does what I want. But it looks like I, once again, ask for too much! Sorry I wasn't any help with the ADB thing.
Note 8 will probably be the last Samsung I own, unless Samsung bakes in some decent audio tools. V4A is the ONLY reason I root. LG's starting to look pretty good in the audio area.
I apologize as this thread is ancient. However, I have acquired a Galaxy Note 8 on vzw. Thankfully, the phone is still on v1 and version 7.1.1. I have tried to root using SamFail, however I receive a failed to mount error, and a Kernal crisis . I have rooted several devices including an S6. Subsequently, I needed to restore the phone to stock on both attempts. Ultimately, what is the reason for this error, and what can I do to resolve and root. I need to permanently keep 7.1.1 (thus could I do this is dev options)?
Even though I never owned one until now, I've been following the OnePlus models ever since the One was released. I've used CyanogenMod and LineageOS on my previous phones, all of which have been rooted mostly to block ads, remove carrier bloat, and to try custom ROMs.
I'm very surprised with OxygenOS and despite having the T-Mobile branded version I'm not sure I want to go through with rooting it. I'm currently network unlocked and awaiting my unlock token. I'm currently using Blockada to block ads. It works well for the most part but doesn't seem as good as AdAway. Aside being able to run AdAway with root, what other reasons should I do it?
As far as I can tell the only bloat on my phone right now is the T-Mobile app and the T-Mobile unlock app. Despite being network unlocked, the Unlock app remained and just got disabled however using adb shell and the pm uninstall command it looks like that was removed. The T-Mobile app is disabled so that's not too much of an issue for me. I don't use YouTube when signed in so the regular version of YouTube Vanced works fine for me now unrooted.
I had Magisk running on my Nexus 5 which allowed me to be rooted and did a great job passing the safetynet checks. Does Magisk still do that effectively on the OP6T?
I'm thinking of not rooting anymore though I am interested in installing the non-Tmobile-branded OxygenOS. I've seen all the threads however it's difficult to read through hundreds of pages of posts. Will I be able to still get OTA updates from One plus, or at least be able to download and then manually install? Is the "International OOS version" the non-TMobile branded OS? I'm not a huge user of wifi calling, though I like having the option for areas with poor reception. Do I lose that when I get rid of the T-Mobile branded OOS?
Reasons For Rooting:
1) Youtube Vanced (Sign-in is a thing for me )
2) Adaway (In my opinion it's far better than blokada)
3) ViPER4Android (for superior speaker experience)
4) Customizing 3-rd party Kernels to fit your needs (underclock,overclock etc.)
5) Getting custom animations (such as McLaren fingerprint animation) and stuff like that.
I've been updating OOS with no problems. I really don't see a reason why someone would not root their OP6T.
@bassic
Long story short, it's stupid simple to convert. PM me when you have your unlock token and I'll walk you through it. I was extremely nervous at first, but it was honestly a breeze and updating to every released version of OOS was also worry-free. If you want, I'm on Telegram. Same username as here.
I'm on the TMO variant as well, and as far as I can tell the only reason to root is to convert to the international firmware. Out of that, there is no reason for root.
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For me I root because Google is being an asshole by restricting more and more apps that worked perfectly on Oreo. So now that we're on Pie I was actually forced to root in order to enjoy my phone fully. Swift is a big deal for me and I need it so I rooted. Now I can resume to apply my own themes to my apps (and system apps).
With root access I have call recording back. Another ability Google killed on Pie. Titanium Backup was also something I was missing. Being able to DELETE, not disable, ANY app that I want from my phone is just lovely.
I wish I could root but oh no they had to add more steps to do so... Unlock tokens? Seriously lol..... If I could root it would be viper4android for sure probably the best mod I've used since note 3
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Even though I never owned one until now, I've been following the OnePlus models ever since the One was released. I've used CyanogenMod and LineageOS on my previous phones, all of which have been rooted mostly to block ads, remove carrier bloat, and to try custom ROMs.
I'm very surprised with OxygenOS and despite having the T-Mobile branded version I'm not sure I want to go through with rooting it. I'm currently network unlocked and awaiting my unlock token. I'm currently using Blockada to block ads. It works well for the most part but doesn't seem as good as AdAway. Aside being able to run AdAway with root, what other reasons should I do it?
As far as I can tell the only bloat on my phone right now is the T-Mobile app and the T-Mobile unlock app. Despite being network unlocked, the Unlock app remained and just got disabled however using adb shell and the pm uninstall command it looks like that was removed. The T-Mobile app is disabled so that's not too much of an issue for me. I don't use YouTube when signed in so the regular version of YouTube Vanced works fine for me now unrooted.
I had Magisk running on my Nexus 5 which allowed me to be rooted and did a great job passing the safetynet checks. Does Magisk still do that effectively on the OP6T?
I'm thinking of not rooting anymore though I am interested in installing the non-Tmobile-branded OxygenOS. I've seen all the threads however it's difficult to read through hundreds of pages of posts. Will I be able to still get OTA updates from One plus, or at least be able to download and then manually install? Is the "International OOS version" the non-TMobile branded OS? I'm not a huge user of wifi calling, though I like having the option for areas with poor reception. Do I lose that when I get rid of the T-Mobile branded OOS?
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A post wouldn't do rooting justice.
I've rooted more phones over the last 25 years than 99% of anyone posting here, and, the truth is, this phone doesnt NEED to be rooted; but, its nice that you can if you feel you must..I havent rooted this phone yet, even though I have had my "token" for weeks now, because, aside from missing Viper and substratum, there is nothing that rooting will enhance for me..
And, If you need to be talked into why you should root this phone, or any other phone, then I would say you dont need to root it..
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Reasons For Rooting:
1) Youtube Vanced (Sign-in is a thing for me )
2) Adaway (In my opinion it's far better than blokada)
3) ViPER4Android (for superior speaker experience)
4) Customizing 3-rd party Kernels to fit your needs (underclock,overclock etc.)
5) Getting custom animations (such as McLaren fingerprint animation) and stuff like that.
I've been updating OOS with no problems. I really don't see a reason why someone would not root their OP6T.
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I sort of agree with all of that, I would root because of all those things and the Stereo speaker mod...
however, I can't be bothered with the instability it brings, the apps that don't work (banking and TV apps in the UK) the lags, the pauses, the stalls, the crashes, the red text that tells you it's been tampered with....etc...etc...
I can do what I want without rooting on this phone, the black theme and being able to get rid of text on icons.
And Oxygen OS is so super fast and stable.
So for those reasons I am not rooting this phone!!!
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My primary reason for probably rooting mine as soon as it pulls 9.0.10 down (still waiting, here in US, stuck on .7) is to be able to backup and restore apps and their data at will. I don't understand why Google hasn't made this a standard functionality. I mean for gosh sakes, how hard would it be?
I unwrapped mine yesterday and wasn't planning on transferring my flag to it (from my rooted 3T) yet, but one thing led to another and here I am. I was able to get some stuff over via Google, some stuff via OnePlust switch, and some things via their own clouds, and other things manually set up. So if I bootloader unlock and root I have to re-set-it-up of course. I have Titanium backups in the cloud of everything on my 3T as of 9 am yesterday so restoring onto a rooted phone is no big problem.
For the record on my 3T I had no problems with instability due to rooting, and banking and streaming apps worked fine under Magisk.
eskimosound said:
I sort of agree with all of that, I would root because of all those things and the Stereo speaker mod...
however, I can't be bothered with the instability it brings, the apps that don't work (banking and TV apps in the UK) the lags, the pauses, the stalls, the crashes, the red text that tells you it's been tampered with....etc...etc...
I can do what I want without rooting on this phone, the black theme and being able to get rid of text on icons.
And Oxygen OS is so super fast and stable.
So for those reasons I am not rooting this phone!!!
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Lags, crashes because of just rooting? That's unheard of...
ram4ufriends said:
Lags, crashes because of just rooting? That's unheard of...
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I come from years of rooting HTC phones and they all lagged and randomly crashed after rooting.
Fact not fiction and certainly heard of, Google is your friend.
yep, rooting can definitely cause all of those problems, and, at the same time, rooting can allow you to do things that fix all those problems, so, as with everything else electronic/hi tech, someone may have a different experience than someone else..
in the past, many folks rooted to get rid of bloat, and speed up their phones; with this phone, neither of those things apply, so performance wise, rooting wont do much to make this phone "faster"..
wase4711 said:
I've rooted more phones over the last 25 years than 99% of anyone posting here, and, the truth is, this phone doesnt NEED to be rooted; but, its nice that you can if you feel you must..I havent rooted this phone yet, even though I have had my "token" for weeks now, because, aside from missing Viper and substratum, there is nothing that rooting will enhance for me..
And, If you need to be talked into why you should root this phone, or any other phone, then I would say you dont need to root it..
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Thanks! That's what I'm looking for. I've done my share of rooting and have tried countless ROMs over the years from way back on my HTC EVO which got me started with Android. I typically rooted to remove carrier bloat, change themes, speed things up, etc. Then I discovered the Nexus devices which I fell in love with. There wasn't any bloat to remove but I did need to modify my hosts file. When HD streaming became an issue, Magisk fixed all that for me. When the Nexus line was replaced by the Pixel, it came along with flagship phone pricing which turned me away. Thankfully OnePlus is still available and making great phones. I don't need the stereo speaker mod since headphones (with the @#$%& USB-C adapter!) are sufficient so really I don't have much of a reason to root. On all my previous devices I didn't like the fact that a bunch of apps were always running in the background and phoning home when they had no business doing so, and I had Greenify configured to keep them all quiet. With the battery management and background data restriction options on the OP6T, I've effectively achieved the same functionality without needing to root.
It still bugs me that the disabled T-Mobile app is still present, and I'm not a huge fan of the branded phone with boot animation, but I'm very happy with this phone and Oxygen OS and I don't have any compelling reason to root right now. There's no bloat outside of the T-mobile stuff, the phone is blazing fast, and it just works. I think I answered my question and I'm OK with not rooting.
I am interested in flashing the non-T-Mobile-branded OxygenOS version to remove the branding and to get system updates from OnePlus faster than from T-Mobile, however I have a bunch of settings that took me a while to adjust to my liking and I really don't feel like re-doing all of that. Are there any recommended utilities that would be able to conveniently restore all of my apps and individual settings after flashing the unbranded OS?
I've already made a post about rooting and the 6T but since no one searches and everyone has to be a thread starter I'll clear up a few misconceptions...
moodloid said:
Reasons For Rooting:
1) Youtube Vanced (Sign-in is a thing for me )
2) Adaway (In my opinion it's far better than blokada)
3) ViPER4Android (for superior speaker experience)
4) Customizing 3-rd party Kernels to fit your needs (underclock,overclock etc.)
5) Getting custom animations (such as McLaren fingerprint animation) and stuff like that.
I've been updating OOS with no problems. I really don't see a reason why someone would not root their OP6T.
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1.) Doesn't require root
2.) Doesn't require root
3.) Nice to have and missed but given my personal usage (as I have much better devices to listen to audio on it's not a deal breaker)
4.) Phone has good enough performance and battery life not necessary but whatever floats a user's boat.
5.) Yes need root but fall back to #4
roaduardo said:
With root access I have call recording back. Another ability Google killed on Pie. Titanium Backup was also something I was missing. Being able to DELETE, not disable, ANY app that I want from my phone is just lovely.
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Call recording can be added on a non-rooted phone (jOnePlus Tools in Play Store) as I have it and it restores automatically on every reboot. Deleting vs disabling you don't gain any free space on your DATA partition so not a big deal to me. I will agree that Titanium Backup yes sorely missed.
wase4711 said:
I've rooted more phones over the last 25 years than 99% of anyone posting here, and, the truth is, this phone doesnt NEED to be rooted; but, its nice that you can if you feel you must..I havent rooted this phone yet, even though I have had my "token" for weeks now, because, aside from missing Viper and substratum, there is nothing that rooting will enhance for me..
And, If you need to be talked into why you should root this phone, or any other phone, then I would say you dont need to root it..
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Exactly.
What you will miss with root (if you use said apps) is DRM L1 Windvine encryption. I'm a subscriber to YouTube TV (users of Netflix & Amazon Video will suffer same issues) and you get 720x480 instead of 1280x720 or 1920x1080. The resolution is not a big deal given it's roughly a 6" screen but dropping from 60 FPS to 30 FPS is a disaster for sports and I will not compromise on that one.
Once the bootloader is unlocked you drop to L3. To go back to L1 it's relock of bootloader which means bye-bye root.
Nosferatu. said:
Call recording can be added on a non-rooted phone as I have it and it restores automatically on every reboot.
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Via what method and on Pie?
roaduardo said:
Via what method and on Pie?
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I edited my above post.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jroot3d.joneplustools&hl=en_US
Install that, jump start the app once on a computer (it'll give you directions when you launch the app) and that's it. Enjoy call recording no Magisk modules nor root required. I'm on international 256GB model 9.0.10 no problem.
Nosferatu. said:
I edited my above post.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jroot3d.joneplustools&hl=en_US
Install that, jump start the app once on a computer (it'll give you directions when you launch the app) and that's it. Enjoy call recording no Magisk modules nor root required. I'm on international 256GB model 9.0.10 no problem.
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Well that's neat. 6T users who don't wanna root should know about this app. Thanks for sharing!
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moodloid said:
Reasons For Rooting:
1) Youtube Vanced (Sign-in is a thing for me )
2) Adaway (In my opinion it's far better than blokada)
3) ViPER4Android (for superior speaker experience)
4) Customizing 3-rd party Kernels to fit your needs (underclock,overclock etc.)
5) Getting custom animations (such as McLaren fingerprint animation) and stuff like that.
I've been updating OOS with no problems. I really don't see a reason why someone would not root their OP6T.
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Can we not get the Youtube Vanced with sign in without root? Used to have that on my Note 8 without any root. Could you explain this please?
Guys, I need your opinion on something.
I have the 6T for one month now, and on the first day I got it I rooted immediately, but I ran into bootloop after a few hours. So I decided to go back to stock and deal with this following problem when I have some spare time.
I have some free time on my hands now to handle the problem. My bootloader of course is unlocked and everything is ready to just flash magisk.
But I am really annoyed by the message when you start your phone up, that your phone is insecure and that you have to download whole system updates when they get released.
But then, on my previous phone, the OP2, I was all about rooting, and flashing stuff and I'm kind of sad to leave this rooting community.
So what do you suggest, is it still worth it to root on the 6T or should I revert everything back to stock and relock my bootloader?
myloarsul said:
Guys, I need your opinion on something.
I have the 6T for one month now, and on the first day I got it I rooted immediately, but I ran into bootloop after a few hours. So I decided to go back to stock and deal with this following problem when I have some spare time.
I have some free time on my hands now to handle the problem. My bootloader of course is unlocked and everything is ready to just flash magisk.
But I am really annoyed by the message when you start your phone up, that your phone is insecure and that you have to download whole system updates when they get released.
But then, on my previous phone, the OP2, I was all about rooting, and flashing stuff and I'm kind of sad to leave this rooting community.
So what do you suggest, is it still worth it to root on the 6T or should I revert everything back to stock and relock my bootloader?
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I rooted for a couple reasons only and they were to use adaway again and Substratum Swift Black. I'm not a fan of the insecure message either. This is the first time I've rooted in a few years. I used All In One tool to root.
I think the reasons for rooting are minimal, but it all depends on what you want. The thing that I keep hearing from everyone (and I agree with):
Root to allow yourself to block ads (Adaway or Energized) and Viper4Android. If you like to theme your phone, Substratum is also fun to play around with. Otherwise, I'd say it's not worth it. My personal preference for rooting is for the already mentioned, and also because I don't like to be held back by anything I want to do to my phone in the future. If I find an annoyance with the phone, I can almost always get rid of it with some root modification.
I posted a similar question recently.
OMGWTFISTHIS said:
Root to allow yourself to block ads (Adaway or Energized) and Viper4Android. If you like to theme your phone, Substratum is also fun to play around with. Otherwise, I'd say it's not worth it. My personal preference for rooting is for the already mentioned, and also because I don't like to be held back by anything I want to do to my phone in the future. If I find an annoyance with the phone, I can almost always get rid of it with some root modification.
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My main reason for rooting all my prior phones was to install AdAway, Greenify (to manage battery performance and kill background apps), and to remove carrier or manufacturer bloat. With the 6T and the latest OxygenOS, I don't really have a need for Greenify and at least on the non T-mobile variant there's no bloat, leaving AdAway as the only reason for me to root. I'm currently using Blockada along with an adblocking DNS which doesn't seem as efficient as AdAway however it's still effective, leaving me with no real reason to root at the moment, but I feel better knowing that I can easily root it at any time if I need to.
Another downside to rooting is that you lose Widevine L1, preventing you from streaming HD content (netflix, amazon video, hulu, etc.). More specifically, there's no way to be rooted with a locked bootloader, and if your bootloader is unlocked your phone is only Widevine L3 compliant, meaning no HD content. This may not be a dealbreaker (SD content is still very watchable on these tiny screens) but it's another thing to consider.
I haven't rooted in a few years. Once I stopped buying carrier bloated phones, buying direct from a manufacturer, most don't have any bloat or blocked features that I need. With the size of space on the built in SD cards, storage for me isn't a problem. I just block em and that is good enough for me.
As for blocking ads, I just use Adguard premium, which blocks about 99% of ads on websites as well as in app ads.
In "the old days" I would root my phone before even setting it up.
So far the only thing I'm really missing is CF.Lumen without root. It's a real shame that the high quality mode can't be achieved without rooting. Otherwise, I'm using Blockada and it seems good enough (I've whitelisted Firefox and installed uBlock Origin there).