I've never done anything like this before, & am a total newb when it comes to this kind of thing, so please bear with me.
I have an old 1st Gen Nexus 7 but stopped using it when the OS update slowed it down. Since getting a Nokia 1 Plus & seeing how relatively great that runs on Android Go Edition/Andriod 10, I thought it would be a good idea to break out the old Nexy & see if I could get her running on this as it's designed for devices with 2GB or less (the Nexus 7 has 1GB I think).
I have two primary concerns; firstly, I don't want to download malware onto my computer or pad, & secondly, some of the guides I've seen are way over my head when it comes to the tech side of it...
Any help would be very much appreciated.
EDIT: by the way, I'm on a Win 10 PC.
Sadly it does require a degree of technical knowledge to be able to do anything
However if you want a good ROM just use Unlegacy Android, it runs lightly enough for this tablet and is what I like to use personally
You probably could build it in theory, but it may not install, considering the small system partition the Nexus 7 has and how I can find absolutely no tutorials online on how to resize it (all the tutorials are for the 2013 model and don't work on the 2012 one). Any ROM past 7.1.2 can't use gapps at all, and any ROM past 6.0 can only use pico gapps (absolute minimum functionality).
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Can someone point or steer me in the right direction?
I am a IT/hackit type person, and I am searching for the best "do it all" system. I don't mind glitchy/buggy systems so long as I can always boot or flash the system stable if I need/want to.
(Read below, if you want to know why/how I got here)
I am largely clueless about windows 7, 2008r2, 8, 8rt, and all post wince phone varients, but I want to expose myself to it if at all possible. I really want to re.perk my interest in linux/android/windows and anything else I am not up on (Facebook/twitter/cloudXYZ intigration).
I haven't used an iphone/ipad much (I had an early ipod, one of the USB sticks with no screen). Other than almost always smooth interface, and high res display, it hasn't perked my interest much. That may just be all the guppies, itunes, closed mindedness, and general leash to many of them wear. If I ever got one, it would either need to run android (or heck, windows, bsd, anything), or there would need some other compelling reason ( runs android/google play apps, has a 3rd part app store, or I dunno, something).
Anyways, back on topic...
I am seeking hardware that can do all, or most all, of the following:
Run android ICS/JB
Has a somewhat active community
Can operate as a tablet and phone (preferably gsm/3g with native phone support)
Can run whatever flavors of windows are interesting (Windows 8, windows 8 rt, etc)
If needed, I can jump ship to x86, but I don't know how unusable android might be.
I'm willing to virtualize or split hardware if I must. (I.e. voip, vmware, terminal, etc.)
A nice plus would be incredible hardware specs (4 core or >1gb ram), even if price is high.
Right now I have a 2 month old galaxy tab 7.7 (p6800). It died, and is in the process of being fixed/replaced/refunded. It's demise prompted my search for a replacement, which in turn, brought me across some windows 8 articles. All I know about windows 8 is what I read in the past hour or so. I came across some stuff about an ARM capable windows (though limited by secure boot), some dual booting of windows x86 tablets, and I think some ICS/win7phone?, etc. I couldn't figure out where to start reading and/or if I should skip it or split it.
BELOW:
Welcome to my personal short story. In short, I have been very ill, and offline for the past 4 years. Prior to that I haven't gone more than a day or two since 1986 without in some way using a computer. I have always hovered at the bleeding edge, and started my career pushing customized solutions, documentation, and "proof of concept" designs.
Fast forward to 2007, using my IT skills I switched to a more top end systems/workflow design, decision matrix, and proof of concept (often centered around server consolidation, virtualization, and terminal emulation (everything from bsd/linux to dos/windows). I also touched countless applications from legacy to high end multimedia/desktops. Most all of my off time was spent pushing hardware, network(+internet), operating system, and virtulalization/duel booting/cross platform interoperability.
Shortly before 2004, I had a life saving surgery, and was good to go (at my best). Then, in 2007/2008 I suffered several major relapses in health. From then until early this year (2012), I was so sick, I couldn't do much at all. Being an early adopter of the original motorola droid, I did manage to stay in touch. I did some very simplistic modding, but didn't have the brain power to do much. My family got me a droid x and a xoom tablet later on, and I had a couple good spells where I rooted and did lite modding.
Why all this detail? It's my best effort to show my perspective and maybe where I am trying to come at or re-enter the IT/hackery world. I really want to catch up, start having fun again, and get cleared to work again!
Thanks for reading this, any pointers to hardware, ariticals, forums, and/or just some search terms would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
-D0c5i5 (aka. Jon or JonC)
There is nothing
I believe there is an old 2.x version of Android running on x86 meaning you could buy a normal x86 device and install Win 8 and Android
using win RT devices with android isn't possible yet
installing RT on Android devices isn't possible yet
Windows phone was never "hacked" as such so if MS insisted on the same level of security its highly unlikely we will have dual boot ARM devices any time soon.
as for dual boot x86, well, youd better get on to the android folk for that one
dazza9075 said:
There is nothing
I believe there is an old 2.x version of Android running on x86 meaning you could buy a normal x86 device and install Win 8 and Android
using win RT devices with android isn't possible yet
installing RT on Android devices isn't possible yet
Windows phone was never "hacked" as such so if MS insisted on the same level of security its highly unlikely we will have dual boot ARM devices any time soon.
as for dual boot x86, well, youd better get on to the android folk for that one
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http://www.android-x86.org/
There's also BlueStacks for emulating Android apps on Windows. I don't believe they have an RT version, though.
JihadSquad said:
http://www.android-x86.org/
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Known issues
•Suspend and resume doesn't work on some targets.
•Not support Ethernet.
indeed, its been updated to ICS
Hi guys, any chance for us to play with the Ubuntu phone os on our nexus 7?
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Re: Ubuntu phone os on nexus 7
There is a thread on Ubuntu for the N7 in the Original Development sub-forum.
Also general questions belong in the Q&A sub-forum.
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Ubuntu for the Nexus 7 (which is available and has been for some time) != Ubuntu's phone OS (which is not available yet but will be in testing form on the 21st of February and which might be portable to the Nexus 7, hopefully)
They are two completely different products/OSes - but it seems like most everyone gets that mixed up anyway. The OP was asking about Ubuntu's phone OS which will be released in a few days, ARM-based, and totally different from Ubuntu for the Nexus 7 which is the actual desktop version of Ubuntu compiled for ARM-based devices.
I love the Ubuntu phone OS interface, it's beautiful and functional and it has those nifty swipe actions from all 4 sides of the screen so, yeah, it would be cool to see that OS running on a Nexus 7. The Ubuntu for Nexus 7 desktop OS compile is crap so far, very slow, laggy, and yes I realize it's in testing obviously but, if it becomes possible to get that phone OS version ported over to a Nexus 7 (minus the phone code, of course) I'd be more than willing to give it some testing time, certainly.
I wouldn't mind this and would love to help only problem is my computer is to slow to compile it
I'll bet that as soon as that source code becomes available on the 21st there's gonna be at least a few people working towards moving that phone OS to other devices, and I'm sure hoping at least one of those people will do it for the Nexus 7. I've watched the Ubuntu phone OS intro video on YouTube (the one with Mark Shuttleworth showing it off for the first time) and I remember when I first watched it as soon as it was posted and thinking "That's brilliant... how come nobody else has ever realized there's 4 sides to a screen and there can be swipe gestures from all 4?"
Brilliant stuff, really... and it just looks great. I'm not dissing Android because I do love Android overall but, it can't hurt to see ideas from others, and Ubuntu's phone OS is certainly something I'm interested in right now. That Firefox OS has some concepts I find appealing as well.
Maybe someone will just take the best parts of all these mobile device OSes and create one truly killer operating system that just blows everything else away.
br0adband said:
I'll bet that as soon as that source code becomes available on the 21st there's gonna be at least a few people working towards moving that phone OS to other devices, and I'm sure hoping at least one of those people will do it for the Nexus 7. I've watched the Ubuntu phone OS intro video on YouTube (the one with Mark Shuttleworth showing it off for the first time) and I remember when I first watched it as soon as it was posted and thinking "That's brilliant... how come nobody else has ever realized there's 4 sides to a screen and there can be swipe gestures from all 4?"
Brilliant stuff, really... and it just looks great. I'm not dissing Android because I do love Android overall but, it can't hurt to see ideas from others, and Ubuntu's phone OS is certainly something I'm interested in right now. That Firefox OS has some concepts I find appealing as well.
Maybe someone will just take the best parts of all these mobile device OSes and create one truly killer operating system that just blows everything else away.
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Yeah and I have a build manifest for nexus 7 with Firefox os but it is terrible on tablets it is most deffinatley a phone os
I wanna know if it's possible to rip apart the Nexus 7 and upgrade the RAM from 1 GB to 2 Gigz? If it's even possible? I am not that hardware savvy. Was wondering if someone has done it or if it's even doable? I have seen threads detailing how to open the N7 and how to increase the SD memory (even one where an external SD slot was installed), but none where the RAM was upgraded. Any thoughts? Sorry if this has been asked before, I couldn't find any related threads.
Not unless you can solder in miniature and not ruin any other components. If you want more RAM get a 2013 version
Sent from my Nexus 7(2012) that has zero issues.
Thanks for the reply. I do intend to buy the new one, but not just yet. Before that I wanted to play around with this one and see if what I stated was doable. If it worked, it would be a good exercise (for me), and if it doesn't well i was getting another one anyways. I'd hold off on the thought now though since the it seems a bit more involved.
i want to install android on ativ 3 , is that possible? , what version do you guys recommend? has anyone tried that? Thank you!
here you can see it
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Wow, it seems i bought a nono... it seems no one has it or ever heard of it...
It does indeed seem that way. Since it runs "real" Windows you can probably use something like BlueStacks on it? Actually installing Android (and having it work) will require driver support in Android which may not exist; even fairly popular Windows tablet lines like the Surface Pro family have driver troubles in Android.
I've been doing a lot of research on this tablet. Ended up picking up a refurb for $250, and with 64GB I'd like to do a dual boot if possible.
However, looking at Wikipedia, there isn't a single tablet with the Atom Z2760 with Android. They're all running Windows 8.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(system_on_chip)
I'm an amateur developer, finishing up my CS degree this Spring. If someone more experienced than me thinks this is actually possible, I'll look into trying to make it happen. If there are any resources that may be relevant, post them or send me a PM.
I own a Samsung ATIV Tab 3 as well. I have not been using it since after updating to windows 10 it has become extremely slow. On the other hand I really like the pen and its responsiveness.
Have you found any way to install android or another light OS?
Ideally I would like to utilize the device as a digital notepad.
Currently, there are Bliss OS or Prime OS but I am testing Prime OS, I don't expect straightforward and easy installation but let's hope for the best...
@UserBroskyXDA, have you been successfull with Prime OS ? I have windows 10 running on my machine and its extremely slow.
Do you have an older Android device? If yes, do you still use it in any way? ?, Share your story here.
Android OS is dynamic (I'd say unstable ?). The device you are buying today might become older enough in a couple of months in terms of the Android version. However if you're lucky to have a truly rich and supporting community, your device will be alive for an eternity.
In the revolution of Android ecosystem, you would possibly like to upgrade your device after major Android updates. Or you have to be satisfied and hanker after the newer Android features otherwise.
Now it's time to share mine ?. I got a local, cheap Jellybean device, when I was introduced to Android in early 2014. Now I have still that Android 4.2 device which I love more than the prettier material design or even the notification dots and others.
I have been using that device for my development purpose for a long time alongside my primary device. As I used it in my first step to Android root, mods, hacking and the system insight. I still remember the day I got this device into bootloop for the first time ?. Those days have passed away.
Now I am learning and developing Android apps. Since my laptop is even smaller than its small configuration (? You can call me a poor guy), it is quite impossible to test and debug apps on Android emulator while running Android studio in parallel with 4GB of RAM and i5. So, I started using my old friend as a helping hand in development. I keep it connected via USB while developing my apps, run and test them with it which frees nearly 700MB of RAM on my tiny machine and boost the build time also. For other Android versions, I have to do them on emulator separately ?.
What you're thinking of me I don't care ?. The phone is much more to me. Feel free to share yours...
What is your phone name and model?
Have you installed a custom rom on it yet?
What are your apps which you have developed?