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Hello folks,
Quick and simple question- is it worth buying the Redmi 2 Prime now? Is the hardware too outdated for Marshmallow?
I know the Snapdragon 410 isn't the best out there, but is it capable of handling a custom Marshmallow ROM, be fluid and stable? I'm enquiring about the custom ROM since I'm aware that this phone is still officially stuck in KitKat.
I'm a relatively light user. I don't play any games on my current phone (the old Xperia Mini). I mostly just use Telegram, Whatsapp, Sync for Reddit, PocketCasts and Blackplayer Ex. I won't be even browsing all that much.
My current concerns are -
1) Being outdated the moment I buy it- it was released in the middle of last year.
2) The call quality is rather bad, supposedly
3) Heating Issue
Should I be buying something that officially supports a recent OS? (Lollipop or Marshmallow) How important is that I be using a new one?
Cheers everyone!
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UPDATE : My opinions about Redmi 2 Prime after owning it for 10 days.
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I know that 10 days ain't a large enough time frame to provide a detailed analysis, but this wasn't meant to be a review per se anyway. There are tonnes of those online- This is more my personal impressions against my expectations.
+ The phone heated up extremely quickly in idle state on the first powerup- less than 5 minutes infact. This raised a red flag in my mind and my immediate thought was to return the device. However, installing the OTA update and suffice to say, that particular heating issue was gone in an instant. Weird, actually.
+ The back cover is quite slippery. Using an additional case fixed it, but added up to the bulk.
+ I like the thickness a lot- felt just right. This is from a person coming from 5 years with an Xperia Mini ST15i.
+ MIUI is really quite the pleasant UI. I spent a few hours going through all that it had to offer, and boy there is a lot. I expected the general UI performance to be much worse, and excluding the few lags and hitches, it was overall a smoothly running system.
- Out of the box, the available RAM was idling around 800-900mb. Launching Chrome made it take a huge hit and fell as much as to 400mb, which made me concerned about the performance again.. However, I quickly replaced Chrome with my go-to Habit browser, and everyone lived happily ever after.
+ However nice MIUI is and can be, my heart was already set for Nova Launcher anyway. Installing Nova Launcher freed up about 200-300mb of RAM. Just goes to show that MIUI really does eat your RAM and doesn't have much to show for it, in terms of performance. This isn't to say that MIUI is bad, its just that its not well optimized, atleast on KK.
+ My next step was to root the phone- an extremely easy process with this handset.
+ Removing all bloatware and a bunch of core processes freed upto 1.3gb of RAM. That was a massive jump, and significantly improved multitasking.
+ Over the course of the next few days, I installed my usual apps and imported data from my previous Android phones. This is about 30 apps, about 8 of which accesses the internet on a timely basis. RAM still hovered around 1.2-1.3gb mark.
+ I have Whatsapp, Gmail, Wallet from Budgetbakers and MLO2 open all the time. Generally RAM is around 900mb-1gb at idle. This is very, very good for my usage, and also good stuff in general.
General Impressions
+ Extremely impressed with the battery life on this thing! In one instance I had about 6.30 hours of screen time with said apps open, occasional youtubing and background syncing- had 39% remaining. Nuts, considering how super low my expectations were.
+ The display is so darn good, AFTER I removed the pre-installed matter screen protector.
+ I don't care about the camera, but I can say its decently better compared to my old phone. I don't use it much.
+ I haven't used the front camera, don't care. Not one to take selfies.
- One aspect of the phone that really shows how many corners were cut to dip down the price, is the micro-usb charging slot. It is simply a rectangular cut out, and not shaped to the contour of the USB slot- meaning, you can damage your phone in no time if you use it carelessly.
I decided to stick with stock MIUI for now, since none of the custom ROMS are 100% stable. I can attribute to this due to Redmi not releasing kernel sources, so any kind of reverse-engineered ROM / Kernel won't be completely reliable for use as a daily driver. Was really disappointed in finding this out, since I was really looking forward to using Marshmallow. Despite that, I got used to being at KK, and truth be told it doesn't really matter all that much as long as you can use you phone and get work done with it.
If you can live with Kitkat and are willing to take the time to tweak the phone, this is a really good buy. I'm seriously impressed by what Xiaomi has brought out to the general public. SO FAR, that is. Lets see if my opinion changes for the worse in the coming months! But by then, this phone might get completely replaced with its newer brother, the Redmi 3.
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Anyone?
I've recently replaced my Zenfone 5 with a Redmi 2 and I am quite pleased. Snapdragon 410 is not the newest SoC around but paired with 2GB of RAM performs just fine with my usage (no games, mostly web browsing, some rather lightweight apps and YT)., has decent support when it comes to alternaltive firmware (I'm running official CM13.1), it's scheduled for MIUI 8 upgrade and will quite possibly receive an unofficial Android N port of some sort as well.
I have experienced no heating or call quality issues, my average screen on time is around 6 hours. Overall the phone provides really good performance and is well made, especially considering the price.
its up to you....if you know about custom roms (we have official cm) ,and more into flashing different roms,experimenting with the phone then this is the best device at present in 7000 range but if you want to keep the experience as it is i.e stock (miui)....then go for some other device., leave it
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its up to you....if you know about custom roms (we have official cm) ,and more into flashing different roms,experimenting with the phone then this is the best device at present in 7000 range but if you want to keep the experience as it is i.e stock (miui)....then go for some other device., leave it
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Hello I'm very keen on buying this phone,redmi 2 prime and I wanted to know if redmi 2 ROMs can be flashed on it anybody pls answer
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Hello I'm very keen on buying this phone,redmi 2 prime and I wanted to know if redmi 2 ROMs can be flashed on it anybody pls answer
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yes, redmi 2 roms can be flashed on redmi 2 prime. Basically both phones are same the only difference is ram, redmi 2 has 1 gb whereas 2 prime has 2 gb.
Oh thanks guys- I didn't see your replies till now. Ended up ordering the Redmi 2P anyway; couldn't find anything else that matched it at that price point.
Originally Posted by sandeep_7
its up to you....if you know about custom roms (we have official cm) ,and more into flashing different roms,experimenting with the phone then this is the best device at present in 7000 range but if you want to keep the experience as it is i.e stock (miui)....then go for some other device., leave it
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I've done my fair share of experimentation with Android devices, especially during the GB-KK era; ROMS, Kernels, Overclocking and what have you. I'm no longer interested in those kinds of things (nor do I have the time) but having said that, I will definitely root and install an AOSP ROM. I don't care about MIUI one bit!
I just need a stable daily driver. Not worried about any sort of wow factor, so I don't mind spending this less as well.
Just wanted to say: If you don't use MIUI you won't have any heating issue at all.
It IS quite outdated. I'd say that buying a Redmi 3S or 3 Pro would be a better idea. Even a Redmi 3. For the apps you said you use, there won't be any problem at all if you use a custom CM13 / 12.1 / XOSP / AOSP
Since i don't know from where you are i can't tell you what good phones you have on your country.
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Just wanted to say: If you don't use MIUI you won't have any heating issue at all.
It IS quite outdated. I'd say that buying a Redmi 3S or 3 Pro would be a better idea. Even a Redmi 3. For the apps you said you use, there won't be any problem at all if you use a custom CM13 / 12.1 / XOSP / AOSP
Since i don't know from where you are i can't tell you what good phones you have on your country.
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The Redmi 3S / Pro hasn't been released here in India, nor have there been any release dates since a long while. Plus I needed a phone right away.
Nevertheless, its good to know that heating will be reduced with AOSP. Do you know if the phone supports the official stock ROM- the plain unmodified AOSPs? Like the ones found on Moto Gs / Nexus devices. If it does, and does it well, I'm a happy man.
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yes, redmi 2 roms can be flashed on redmi 2 prime. Basically both phones are same the only difference is ram, redmi 2 has 1 gb whereas 2 prime has 2 gb.
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Thanks bro
looking out for phone with future proof android experiences via custom roms or asop..
guys is it worth buying redmi prime 2 ? As i have seen that this phone has variety of custom roms and support marshmallow too.
Will this phone has future proof android experiences like android N,O etc via custom rom and asop?
Or should I wait for redmi 3s to be launched?
currently I am using xperia e3 d2212 and I wanna change my phone due to lack of android updates and custom roms.
please suggest me guys....
thanks in advance and sorry for my english.......
prakharayush31 said:
guys is it worth buying redmi prime 2 ? As i have seen that this phone has variety of custom roms and support marshmallow too.
Will this phone has future proof android experiences like android N,O etc via custom rom and asop?
Or should I wait for redmi 3s to be launched?
currently I am using xperia e3 d2212 and I wanna change my phone due to lack of android updates and custom roms.
please suggest me guys....
thanks in advance and sorry for my english.......
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If you have the option to wait, wait for the 3S, it will be a much better experience.
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agentmilo said:
The Redmi 3S / Pro hasn't been released here in India, nor have there been any release dates since a long while. Plus I needed a phone right away.
Nevertheless, its good to know that heating will be reduced with AOSP. Do you know if the phone supports the official stock ROM- the plain unmodified AOSPs? Like the ones found on Moto Gs / Nexus devices. If it does, and does it well, I'm a happy man.
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It doesn't have official support for any 100% pure AOSP, only unnoficial. There are plenty of AOSP roms official though, all Ground Zero for example (TipsyOS, TeslaOS and Validus ROM). Also, CM13 is 100% official.
On the unnoficial side of things, there are lots of ROMs to play with, and we have a CAF AOSP which is 100% pure, even if Unnoficial.
Does XIaomi still lock bootloaders after updating official MIUI?
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Does XIaomi still lock bootloaders after updating official MIUI?
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may be as i have seen on miui forums that they locked the bootloader on their redmi note 3
Hi guys, I updated my first post to view my impressions after having owned the device for 10 days.
Redmi 2/Prime is Still one of the best Out there , taking into concern the Budget of 7k , and to top it off , Regular Updates of MIUI and Also Redmi 2/Prime is one of the Devices having Much much development in fields of Custom Roms to Kernels to Mods .. surely it may be old now , but Taking into my own words seriously, old is gold ..
There are other devices that are better in specs at the same prize range , (Vibe K5 , Coolpad note 3 lite) , but Quality Matters too , and Our Redmi Defeats both of them , in that + it feels Premium than the other two that I mentioned (I have used all 3) ....
So , should you buy it ? Hell yeah , unless You can increase your Budget and Go for Higher Devices
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Redmi 2/Prime is Still one of the best Out there , taking into concern the Budget of 7k , and to top it off , Regular Updates of MIUI and Also Redmi 2/Prime is one of the Devices having Much much development in fields of Custom Roms to Kernels to Mods .. surely it may be old now , but Taking into my own words seriously, old is gold ..
There are other devices that are better in specs at the same prize range , (Vibe K5 , Coolpad note 3 lite) , but Quality Matters too , and Our Redmi Defeats both of them , in that + it feels Premium than the other two that I mentioned (I have used all 3) ....
So , should you buy it ? Hell yeah , unless You can increase your Budget and Go for Higher Devices
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I would definitely same the for the latter part of your post- it is great up until 7k. If you have the capability to increase your budget by even 1k, definitely look elsewhere. Once the novelty wears off, one can really regret buying this device AT THIS POINT IN TIME. It definitely IS outdated in terms of stable software. That's the important part.
Ofcourse, all this changes if we see a Marshmallow upgrade from Xiaomi. Then this device will be worth recommending again.
I would NOT suggest this device if your plan is to toy with it and experiment with custom ROMS, kernels AND at the same time, use it as your daily driver.
I would only suggest it if you are completely alright with being stuck with KK.
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Redmi 2/Prime is Still one of the best Out there , taking into concern the Budget of 7k , and to top it off , Regular Updates of MIUI and Also Redmi 2/Prime is one of the Devices having Much much development in fields of Custom Roms to Kernels to Mods .. surely it may be old now , but Taking into my own words seriously, old is gold ..
There are other devices that are better in specs at the same prize range , (Vibe K5 , Coolpad note 3 lite) , but Quality Matters too , and Our Redmi Defeats both of them , in that + it feels Premium than the other two that I mentioned (I have used all 3) ....
So , should you buy it ? Hell yeah , unless You can increase your Budget and Go for Higher Devices
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I would definitely same the for the latter part of your post- it is great up until 7k. If you have the capability to increase your budget by even 1k, definitely look elsewhere. Once the novelty wears off, one can really regret buying this device AT THIS POINT IN TIME. It definitely IS outdated in terms of stable software. That's the important part.
Ofcourse, all this changes if we see a Marshmallow upgrade from Xiaomi. Then this device will be worth recommending again.
I would NOT suggest this device if your plan is to toy with it and experiment with custom ROMS, kernels AND at the same time, use it as your daily driver.
I would only suggest it if you are completely alright with being stuck with KK.
I'm using it with mokee rom. No problem at all. Anything is great.
Whoa whoa whoa @agentmilo, get first things straight at first. The device isn't at all outdated. Because all the processing power that SD410 has, is quite extravagant for our working standard. RAM is not your issue of concern at all. Let all the game played by the player who knows the best of it, the Android itself. Android doesn't slow down for lack of RAM, I mean we are not in the 512MB age. Every other software available for our device is 90% stable. And the one's like RR is 100%. The device heats up based on whay and how are you dealing with it, and every other device heats up naturally, because that's the basic physics between semiconductors bro. Performance will vary on the kernel you're using, and try it with latest ultimate BK, it's everything it could be. The beast is still good enough for our everyday tasks to medium high gaming. And for you, it's overkill.
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
Don't go for it
tobben said:
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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Not fot LOS now but u get install PE or etc. now
Also i guess it will get LOS support later
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Don't go for it
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What else can you suggest?
I'm using the mi a2 for a month now, and I love it, it's fast, the bugs are minor (and it was fixed for me in the january update) so there is no reason to not buy it.
I recommend it!
tobben said:
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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For me, it's worth it, although some user reported some issues but mine is good so far, almost 4 months now..
About LOS, A2 still doesn't have official build or official support yet, maybe soon.. But A2 already got official Pixel Experience rom which is better than stock in my opinion.. You can try other rom like Havoc or Pixys, if you want more customization
And I think you should wait a bit more for Redmi Note 7, it's a bit better than A2, based on the spec sheet
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_7-9513.php
Thanks. I dont want to wait - i need a new phone now. Redmi 7 global is not aviable yet and when its aviable community roms will also take time.
What is with security level in the a2 - is it possible for me to use the tan generator app from my bank ... n ooted phones the app dont starts ....
I am baffled 2irh the idiotic replies here. Nothing to back them up just don't go for it and put.
I change my phone's about 2 times a year and I love the latest Galaxy phone's as of the s7 and s8 with the latter being my favorite phone of all time, but I also like to use budget phone's of time to time to see how they compare. I have used one plus one, OnePlus 3, xiaomi mi a1 mi a2 some Huawei mate series the max series etc. And let me tell you that this phone is equals in terms of quality to most of the phone's I have used sometimes it even exceeds my expectations.
The phone one flaw is the camera, BUT if you are not a camera head you won't notice the difference that much in your day to day casual photos. Now I do notice it but I also use DSLR and come off a expensive phone with amazing camera, but even in my case I don't mind it it is not bad it is ... Just meh or ok.
The software is amazing, it is not perfect as montly security updates slowly become less and less with time, but it is Android ... What can you expect. Yet I have rearlt expiriqnced any bugs or problems with my xiaomi mi a1 or mi a2.
Build quality is equals with all yestaryear high end smartphones (I am saying yestaryear because it is a metal phone not a glass phone). To be fair there is zero difference with a 1000 USD USD phone at all.
These phones are amazing. I don't understand how ppl can sit here and complain about anything about these phones. And when you add in the price... Pffff. Best bang for buck.
I'd recommend to get the 6GB ram version phone for longer future proof if you like to keep your phone snappy for longer and/or to keep your phone longer in general.
Go foe it mate
tobben said:
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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Yeah get it, it won't disappoint you
Hello
No worries on my side with this phone
tldr: if you plan for custom roms get a redmi or poco f1. mi a2 is meant to be used stock.
it's biggest problem for banking apps is the lack of nfc.
with mi a2 you pay extra for android one (included in the phone price). if you dont want the official support(stock) then get a phone that doesnt include this.
if you want a better android one go for a nokia
Using this phone for 4-5 months and it's been pretty good. However one downside I would say is the battery. If you're a heavy user it will be pretty tough to make it to a day without charging (especially gaming). Otherwise no issues.
AB_98 said:
Using this phone for 4-5 months and it's been pretty good. However one downside I would say is the battery. If you're a heavy user it will be pretty tough to make it to a day without charging (especially gaming). Otherwise no issues.
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I second that. Battery for me has been a killer with light use of 3 days no charge and heavy use a day with zero issues. Optimisation is key but you can easily get 5+ sot easy.
PS: I do not game on my phone I work on it and with it. So that might be something I cannot comment on.
I can recommend this for the price if you like android one. If you can pay more pick a pocophone (it's day and night)
As almost everyone has said, it is a good phone, specially for the price. Coming from a Nexus 6P I was happily surprised by the performance, I can play quite a few GameCube games on Dolphin and games like Tekken, FIFA, Asphalt 9 and Horizon Chase run really well. I haven't tested Fortnite nor PUBG, cause those are not my type of games, but I've seen videos where those run fine. The only downsides are the battery (could be bigger, but it can last a day with moderate use) and the lack of Camera2Api support out of the box. If you value Android One, this is a great phone, you could check some Nokia phones but those tend to be a bit more expensive. If you don't care about MIUI, you can get a Redmi Note 5 Pro or 6 Pro, or the Mi 8 Lite. Those have similar specs, bigger batteries and might be cheaper or the same price.
It's awesome phone for that price ... Especially if you flash some custom rom and root ...
I'm not thrilled. using it for a few months now. general speed is ok. unfortunately bug fixes (including maxed out CPUs) and updates are not xiaomi's priority. you get what you pay for i guess. (even though the hardware is ok for that price)
also: hands off Nokia of you ask me. check out the anger in their Nokia 8 forum for example. they are treating their customers worse than any other company.
Recently my current phone (Leeco LeTv Max 2) died on me, therefore, I am currently looking looking for a new phone, and after searching online for a good Android phone, I found that brand name phones like Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus, Google Pixel 3, and Huawei P30 Pro are expensive and the only phones that meet my budget are OnePlus 6T and Xiaomi Mi 9, the problem with OnePlus 6T that its camera is not that good as Xiaomi Mi 9, but when I search for the best Android phones online I found that OnePlus 6T is one of at leas the best 5 phones while Xiaomi Mi 9 is not even there, maybe it is new and it is not reviewed for most of rating website, so would you please recommend one for me in you know these phone, I have to buy one ASAP, thanks in advance.
Personally I'd say go for Mi 9 just an all round better device or even wait for OP7 at this point OP6T is not worth it.
Mi 9 Has SD855 More Efficient, Better Display (HDR10 Certification), Camera Sensors/Software, Better Speaker, 20w Wireless Charging, 27w Fast Charging.
But if you have a chance try both devices and see which suits you the most.
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Recently my current phone (Leeco LeTv Max 2) died on me, therefore, I am currently looking looking for a new phone, and after searching online for a good Android phone, I found that brand name phones like Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus, Google Pixel 3, and Huawei P30 Pro are expensive and the only phones that meet my budget are OnePlus 6T and Xiaomi Mi 9, the problem with OnePlus 6T that its camera is not that good as Xiaomi Mi 9, but when I search for the best Android phones online I found that OnePlus 6T is one of at leas the best 5 phones while Xiaomi Mi 9 is not even there, maybe it is new and it is not reviewed for most of rating website, so would you please recommend one for me in you know these phone, I have to buy one ASAP, thanks in advance.
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As far as specs go, I'd say the Xiaomi MI 9 is better. Does it matter buying new or used? You can get barely used 6T for 300-400 now. 7T will be out in a few months. I think the MI 9 is $600 or so. I was in the same position didn't want to spend a lot. So I picked up a 6T and a MI 8. MI 8 should arrive tomorrow. I'm going to compare the two for a daily. I have a brand new P20 PRO which I think is better than both that I need to get rid of. If you need now right now and cant wait then MI 9. If you can wait I say 7T. Or find a cheaper used 6T or MI 8 and wait for the 7T to compare to the MI 9.
I was thinking either to go to MI 9 (which I like a lot) or wait for the 7T, then I decided to wait, but now the 7T is released and the price is high, then suddenly while I was searching for a deal in our local online shopping site, I found a new Google Pixel 3 XL with only 700 CAD, which I found I deal that couldn't be rejected, so I bought it and so far I am happy, but my heart is still with the MI 9 which I think if will buy another phone in the future it would be it.
Get the Mi 9, it has better camera, better SOC, better GPS, faster charging, wireless charging, etc. The only cons are MIUI (depends on your taste), smaller battery, and slightly slower FP.
I'm starting to regret my OP 6T purchase, i got this phone 2 months ago. Now I can get a Mi 9 for $150 cheaper.
Op7
Does the Mi work in Verizon? Not sure where you are located....I really need to get away from them, VZW sucks.
I'm pretty impressed with the Mi phone and specs.
If xiaomi mi9, only 12 GB version (that might worth because of later-coming custom roms), 6 Gb will be a pain to use in some years. I had a xiaomi phone and I loved it because of the good hardware and the great developers of xda who made amazing roms and tweaks for my device, but it was not even a week old when I rooted and changed miui to stock android. When it comes to xiaomi, os is the weakest point, so even with the newer hardware mi9 performs on the same level as oneplus 6t just because op has a great software. You see the difference of chipsets when you are rendering videos, but on daily usage and gaming they are on the same level.
Mi9 is good, but if you want to buy a phone for longer time, oneplus is more future-proof than xiaomi.
One more pro thing for oneplus compared to mi9: battery life. 6t has much better SOT than mi9 or even op7 pro (90hz, max brightness -> disappointing battery life).
Mi9 for the price, for the harware. Many users love Miui.
6T for hardware, second hand price is great, but most important os & soft updates.
7 pro. awesome phone. Good hardware & software. Expensive. And of course, better screen = uses more baterry.
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If xiaomi mi9, only 12 GB version (that might worth because of later-coming custom roms), 6 Gb will be a pain to use in some years. I had a xiaomi phone and I loved it because of the good hardware and the great developers of xda who made amazing roms and tweaks for my device, but it was not even a week old when I rooted and changed miui to stock android. When it comes to xiaomi, os is the weakest point, so even with the newer hardware mi9 performs on the same level as oneplus 6t just because op has a great software. You see the difference of chipsets when you are rendering videos, but on daily usage and gaming they are on the same level.
Mi9 is good, but if you want to buy a phone for longer time, oneplus is more future-proof than xiaomi.
One more pro thing for oneplus compared to mi9: battery life. 6t has much better SOT than mi9 or even op7 pro (90hz, max brightness -> disappointing battery life).
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1. 12 GB worth for future custom roms?
Why are you saying that? This is absolutely not true.
2. Did you ever compare development of a mi 8 vs a oneplus 6t?
Xiaomis mi and the main redmi series are one of the most developed devices on XDA.
They have a big dev community from India.
3. The battery of the 6t is clearly not much better than the mi9.
Maybe you can show some adequate test results for comparison to proof that.
They are equal when it comes to battery life.
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1. 12 GB worth for future custom roms?
Why are you saying that? This is absolutely not true.
2. Did you ever compare development of a mi 8 vs a oneplus 6t?
Xiaomis mi and the main redmi series are one of the most developed devices on XDA.
They have a big dev community from India.
3. The battery of the 6t is clearly not much better than the mi9.
Maybe you can show some adequate test results for comparison to proof that.
They are equal when it comes to battery life.
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Who knows what future android versions will need? Apps and android are growing, they want more space, more ram, and so on, and I am not thinking in one-two year term, rather 4-5 and be honest: noone want their great flagship to be a laggy piece of crap 3-4 years later. Most people buy flagships because they are designed to be future-proof. 12 GB will guarantee fluid multitasking for years and you don't have to worry about anything. 6 GBs is only enough if you want to upgrade in 1-2 years and if you are paying monthly for the device yes this is an option, but I am not one of those. I just said if I woulf buy a mi9, which version would I choose (and if we see that even this is cheaper than OP, than yes this is an option). Why didn't I choose that? Software and battery.
I said also that I had a xiaomi phone and I know that this brand (not only mi, also redmi series) has the most developed topics in xda (that is why I used my redmi for 3 years because the devs ported great roms and on the forums even noobs like me found actual support) and to be honest migrating to oneplus forums full of crying was a huge disappointment after that. But facts are facts, Mi9 has a smaller battery with not-so-well optimized ROM (3300 mAh is not more, not less and MIUI is a heavy os), result: it will not last as long as the 6t and I am one of those who want their phone to last till the end of the day even with heavy usage.
I did not say one is better than the other, because everyone has their personal preferences what decides which one fits better for someone. They are on the same level when it comes to performance, I mentioned the differences pro and contra both, so I don't understand why are you complaining. Facts are facts: OP has a bigger battery, a better software, and this software keeps it future-proof in my eyes. Mi9 has newer hardware, wireless charging and a good developer community. It depends on people what they choose.
I tell you what was my problem with xiaomi and why I won't buy that brand again: stock software updates. When I see that even OP3 gets android Pie from the company, and xiaomi cannot upgrade even their last year midrange phones' android version (even if the hardware would be fully capable), that is disappointing.
I am talking about this: https://www.theandroidsoul.com/xiaomi-android-9-pie-update/
And this: https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-6-6a-s2-y2-android-pie-cancelled/
Mi series are on different level, but scroll down to redmi series. Most of "not eligible" phones have the capable hardware if not all of them. Mine is not even on the list, it was released with MM and cancelled at MM (!!).
Two years later Mi9 owners will know that, but maybe that is why they are so well supported on XDA. I came to custom roms because of xiaomi, and I started to love these forums because of xiaomi.
But I want what normal people want: when I buy a phone, I want real software support from the company, and I want every single component of the software working in my country. Miui cannot give me that (although I had global version), most of the features were useless bloatware in my area. Different people in different countries will have different experiences. I just told you mine. Maybe I want too much. Sorry for that.
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Who knows what future android versions will need? Apps and android are growing, they want more space, more ram, and so on, and I am not thinking in one-two year term, rather 4-5 and be honest: noone want their great flagship to be a laggy piece of crap 3-4 years later. Most people buy flagships because they are designed to be future-proof. 12 GB will guarantee fluid multitasking for years and you don't have to worry about anything. 6 GBs is only enough if you want to upgrade in 1-2 years and if you are paying monthly for the device yes this is an option, but I am not one of those. I just said if I woulf buy a mi9, which version would I choose (and if we see that even this is cheaper than OP, than yes this is an option). Why didn't I choose that? Software and battery.
I said also that I had a xiaomi phone and I know that this brand (not only mi, also redmi series) has the most developed topics in xda (that is why I used my redmi for 3 years because the devs ported great roms and on the forums even noobs like me found actual support) and to be honest migrating to oneplus forums full of crying was a huge disappointment after that. But facts are facts, Mi9 has a smaller battery with not-so-well optimized ROM (3300 mAh is not more, not less and MIUI is a heavy os), result: it will not last as long as the 6t and I am one of those who want their phone to last till the end of the day even with heavy usage.
I did not say one is better than the other, because everyone has their personal preferences what decides which one fits better for someone. They are on the same level when it comes to performance, I mentioned the differences pro and contra both, so I don't understand why are you complaining. Facts are facts: OP has a bigger battery, a better software, and this software keeps it future-proof in my eyes. Mi9 has newer hardware, wireless charging and a good developer community. It depends on people what they choose.
I tell you what was my problem with xiaomi and why I won't buy that brand again: stock software updates. When I see that even OP3 gets android Pie from the company, and xiaomi cannot upgrade even their last year midrange phones' android version (even if the hardware would be fully capable), that is disappointing.
I am talking about this: https://www.theandroidsoul.com/xiaomi-android-9-pie-update/
And this: https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-6-6a-s2-y2-android-pie-cancelled/
Mi series are on different level, but scroll down to redmi series. Most of "not eligible" phones have the capable hardware if not all of them. Mine is not even on the list, it was released with MM and cancelled at MM (!!).
Two years later Mi9 owners will know that, but maybe that is why they are so well supported on XDA. I came to custom roms because of xiaomi, and I started to love these forums because of xiaomi.
But I want what normal people want: when I buy a phone, I want real software support from the company, and I want every single component of the software working in my country. Miui cannot give me that (although I had global version), most of the features were useless bloatware in my area. Different people in different countries will have different experiences. I just told you mine. Maybe I want too much. Sorry for that.
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I asked you for a solid proof (but please no useless youtube noob video or something) that 6T's battery is lasting much longer. If you tell me something about battery sizes, then I can clearly say, that you don't understand how a phone is working.
Even when it comes to the RAM thing, with more is better, etc. Your phone won't get more 'laggy' just because you have 4 or 6 GB RAM nowadays. This won't change in 3-4 years either, if you have 6 or 12 GB RAM. You can have 12 GB RAM today and your phone will not be able to hold all apps in the RAM, if the RAM management and the application is not optimized.
I did not say anything against the longtime support by the company, but if he is willing to use custom ROMs (at least he is already here on XDA) the support with newest android updates won't be much different, especially when it comes to flagship devices.
Finally I did not argue against your recommendation. That is your personal thing.
I had a problem with your arguments.
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I asked you for a solid proof (but please no useless youtube noob video or something) that 6T's battery is lasting much longer. If you tell me something about battery sizes, then I can clearly say, that you don't understand how a phone is working.
Even when it comes to the RAM thing, with more is better, etc. Your phone won't get more 'laggy' just because you have 4 or 6 GB RAM nowadays. This won't change in 3-4 years either, if you have 6 or 12 GB RAM. You can have 12 GB RAM today and your phone will not be able to hold all apps in the RAM, if the RAM management and the application is not optimized.
I did not say anything against the longtime support by the company, but if he is willing to use custom ROMs (at least he is already here on XDA) the support with newest android updates won't be much different, especially when it comes to flagship devices.
Finally I did not argue against your recommendation. That is your personal thing.
I had a problem with your arguments.
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Ok, so I turn the question: can you give me a solid proof that I am wrong and the solid numbers are lying? I used miui, I know that the standby tim is great but what about actually using the phone? That one just melts away.
About the ram thing: check the ram usage on your device. On mine it is averagely more than 4 gbs, if there is less than one gb free ram on a 6 gbs phone it becomes laggy because it deaperately wants to free some space while you just want to use your phone. Also that is my 10 years experience in Android phones.
About the support difference: I just told you above, read again.
Just happened to see this thread and realize it's a bit old now but anyways...
I have a OnePlus 6 currently, long story short several weeks ago the screen shattered and I needed a new phone. Thought about just fixing the 6 but decided to pick up the global mi 9 as spec wise and cost it was a great deal. Fast forward>>>> the mi 9 is currently on swappa and I'm waiting for my oneplus 6t, using a shattered 6. After waiting 360 hours to unlock the bootloader and get root so I could actually comfortably use the phone (not getting into a debate on privacy, I didn't care for all the intrusive crap on the mi 9) it was a let down but the final straw was really my fault for not really checking what lte bands TMobile was using around me, but besides that I, personally couldn't get adjusted to MIUI as it's anything but intuitive. The cameras were not really that great, the speed difference even between my 6 wasn't really noticable and I just wanted out. I thought about waiting for the Asus Zenfone 6 but I couldn't, not with the mi 9. I'll make due with the older 6t until I decide to upgrade again. From software, actual usage of the phone, weight, and tho it's still fairly new, lack of any development (I'm pretty sure that will change shortly) the mi 9 was not for me.
I would take op7 even it has worse camera. I cant work with miui
The "budget model" OP7 will be released soon.
In my opinion a perfect choice since OP7 iron out the few flaws of OP6t: better camera, stereo speakers and also benefit from OP7Pro: fastest CPU, 3.1 storage, better fingerprint sensor, etc.
Well, you don't get the fancy resolution in OP7pro, but you will get a much better battery life, and even greater battery SOT than OP6t (due to 855 use less energy than 845) and the price is 25% less the pro version.
In my opinion the optimal choice.
Main question in topic title… (new or used devices)
How to unlock the bootloader? What's the best maintained and stable ROM out there?
Or should I avoid it?
The device is now currently selling for ₹9000 (presuming you are in India). If you spend a little more the current gen Redmi and Realme devices offer much better specs.
If you still want this phone I would recommend ResRemix, DOT OS, Havoc OS or Pixel Experience.
Nope no never even not in your nightmare..if you want it to became more than worst nightmare
Depends on how much price you're getting, In some websites it goes under 7k with Bank offers and all that, It's a nice device for that price range. If you're going above 8.5k, then look aside, there are better devices in that segment of 10k or under. Hope that helps
Do not buy any Asus phone in 2019 because they do not have LTE band 41 (Sprint / Vodafone In) and even though the SD636 660 and 865 support LTE A, CA does not work. There are software glitches in M1, fewer on 340.
Yes, with discounts and offers it goes around 7k or so right? can anyone suggest better phone in this range? with 5kmah batt full hd screen 3/4gb ram, sd 636 or better
If you NEED big battery AND you live in a well signal area = yes, otherwise, the phone simply sucks.
If you choose this phone, use Havoc, Dot OS for M1 is slow af, and buggy (Titanium backup doesn't work after a while, lots of gcam also force stop), also not so good battery life, just tried it yesterday. Oh, and it's a clean flash, not dirty.
dangquoctrung123 said:
Dot OS for M1 is slow af, and buggy (Titanium backup doesn't work after a while, lots of gcam also force stop), also not so good battery life, just tried it yesterday. Oh, and it's a clean flash, not dirty.
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Thanks for the review,
no
go for vivo z1 pro
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Main question in topic title… (new or used devices)
How to unlock the bootloader? What's the best maintained and stable ROM out there?
Or should I avoid it?
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For 8k it's a good Device...with decent development
If you are not particular about custom rom and development, skip this phone. Otherwise it is a good buy.
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go for vivo z1 pro
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you're SERIOUSLY recommending a phone thats almost DOUBLE the price?
are your eyes and brain working normally?
hey OP, ignore everything in this thread, go for a gold plated iPhone with diamond touchscreen.
because screw budgets, right?
I would say it depends upon your needs.
I am a person who prefers small to medium sized phones, but wanted a slightly bigger device for reading and media consumption that could still be operated via single hand. Max Pro M1 fit the bill pretty well.
Its got a nice screen, reasonable specs, lightweight stock UI, nice build quality and is affordable.
I found is the camera to be lacklustre, which can somewhat be improved via Google Camera app.
YMMV.
I got 4gb max pro m1 for 7.6k
And running miui10 benchmark 124000
Is it good buy or what?
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I got 4gb max pro m1 for 7.6k
And running miui10 benchmark 124000
Is it good buy or what?
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For 7.6k its definitely good buy,redmi note 6 pro with same SoC is 11-12k.
I bought the 3/32GB variant for Rs 6,066 after all the Bank Discounts and an exchange. So far, it's proving to be a good purchase. I'm really impressed with the battery life on it. The UI is smooth being stock Android. I've added a 64GB Micro SD card. It works than my brother's Redmi Note 5 Pro. The Front Camera is where it lacks but apart from that it's great.
Bought this phone in February this year for my mother, the price itself in Indonesia is quite a good deal if we consider its mid-class spec.
But... turns out it is a big disappointment. My mom only uses this phone for about 2 months and after that, she doesn't want to use it anymore, even she beg me to have her old Redmi Note 4 back instead of continuing using it (too bad, I already sold her old RN4). She said, this phone is too minimalist, the camera is very bad, no convenient features and the stock UI is simply boring.
So, she handed it back to me and I bought her the Galaxy M20 for a replacement and she is very happy with it. Now, this phone becomes my test phone to play with several custom ROM from our talented dev here in XDA community. Currently, I am using Pixel Experience Plus Edition with Darkonah Kernel. Sometimes, I also use this phone for a hotspot device when I have to travel overseas (i just have to put the local 4G sim card in it), so I can connect my primary phone and laptop while I'm roaming in the city.
However, if you consider buying this phone in 2019, my advice is, just DON'T... Except, you can get it with a very cheap price and forget the stock ROM, it is just BAD.
Did you try flashing the MIUI10 ROM, which makes it exactly like a Xiaomi phone? I come from Mi Max 2, got this phone for 3 main reasons
1)5000mah battery
2)2 sim and sd card
3) multi colored led notification light
I am quite happy with it. However the new Mi9T/k20 pro has AMOLED screen which are quite nice for decent price. Smaller battery and no rgb notification though.
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motherninja said:
Bought this phone in February this year for my mother, the price itself in Indonesia is quite a good deal if we consider its mid-class spec.
But... turns out it is a big disappointment. My mom only uses this phone for about 2 months and after that, she doesn't want to use it anymore, even she beg me to have her old Redmi Note 4 back instead of continuing using it (too bad, I already sold her old RN4). She said, this phone is too minimalist, the camera is very bad, no convenient features and the stock UI is simply boring.
So, she handed it back to me and I bought her the Galaxy M20 for a replacement and she is very happy with it. Now, this phone becomes my test phone to play with several custom ROM from our talented dev here in XDA community. Currently, I am using Pixel Experience Plus Edition with Darkonah Kernel. Sometimes, I also use this phone for a hotspot device when I have to travel overseas (i just have to put the local 4G sim card in it), so I can connect my primary phone and laptop while I'm roaming in the city.
However, if you consider buying this phone in 2019, my advice is, just DON'T... Except, you can get it with a very cheap price and forget the stock ROM, it is just BAD.
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Did you try flashing the MIUI10 ROM, which makes it exactly like a Xiaomi phone? I come from Mi Max 2, got this phone for 3 main reasons
1)5000mah battery
2)2 sim and sd card
3) multi colored led notification light
I am quite happy with it. However the new Mi9T/k20 pro has AMOLED screen which are quite nice for decent price. Smaller battery and no rgb notification though
Iam planning to tell my friend to buy one from his trip to India. There is nothing even half good i can buy for that price ( around 80 Pound) here in the UK . Dear Indian friends do you have any other phones to suggest for that budget ?
@rkoforever90 Hi,
Only lack luster thing in this phone is- its camera performance. Ignore the trolls here, they might be just some teens, accustomed to Chinese vendors.
Slow battery charge is intentionaly done by Asus to keep its massive battery healthy.
Very few devices comes with sd636 in your budget.
I'll recommend moto one device if you want to compensate for camera and performance.
Skip realme, oppo, Mi etc. (You know why )
Htc u12+ and Nokias in budget but lacks battery power. Also upcoming month is festive month in India so may be some good device launch will follow.
Overall for an elderly I think its good device with good resolution and screen quality. With no lags. Stock rom is not as bad as this forum made it look like.
I have found lately that I constantly come back to this phone, since November 2019, I've bought this phone 5 times and sold when changing to another phone thinking the other phones will be more enjoyable for me to use, including the likes of Samsung Note 10+ (never liked the UI), ROG Phone 2 (was a tad bit heavy and no good supply of cases to protect it), Oneplus 7t pro (battery was aweful), S20 Ultra (once again did not like the UI) Poco f2 pro (found too many ads coming from it so did not enjoy the UI) also the realme X3 Superzoom (good phone but ui is better on x2 pro as you can reduce size of icons and its screen is better)
Ultimately I've constantly come back to this, there is no better value phone than the Realme X2 Pro, amoled 90hz, 12gb ram, 256gb storage, 855+, no 5g but I absolutely do not care for it. and UI is more or less just one step behind OxygenOs in my opinion. but better battery life. all for £350 for me
Pues a mí me hace 5horas de pantalla en 90hz y la batería me dura menos que cuando estaba en android 9, aparte de c.28 consume más.
Wow, thanks for the info.
Do you think it still a better a buy in 2020-2021. Comparing against op7t and op nord or any upcoming smartphone with new chipset?
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Wow, thanks for the info.
Do you think it still a better a buy in 2020-2021. Comparing against op7t and op nord or any upcoming smartphone with new chipset?
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I would definitely say, yes.
Also tried several phones in the past few weeks, like 1+7 Pro, X2 Pro 128GB, X50 Pro CN and last week X50 Pro EU. Now I'm on X2 Pro Master Edition and I think it will stay, unless Realme releases something new.^^
For me the X50 Pro isn't really an Upgrade because of:
- Dual hole punch
- Vibrationengine is worse
- Think speaker sounds on X2 Pro also better
- Charging speed bit slower
- Doesn't feel as comfortable as X2 Pro in the hand
- Missing headphone jack
- Price
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Wow, thanks for the info.
Do you think it still a better a buy in 2020-2021. Comparing against op7t and op nord or any upcoming smartphone with new chipset?
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I still do think its the best buy now that's if you can get hold of it, because i'm constantly noticing its going out of stock from amazon.
No phone at the moment provides the following:
Amoled display with 90hz with FLAT panel (not that curved nonsense)
12gb ram, 256gb storage
Dual speaker
Reasonable battery with fast charging
Stock style UI
all for around £380, (even though I was able to get my latest one which I'm using now for £300.
All other phones lack something, I would have stuck with oneplus 7t pro as it had a better camera but the curved screen and the abismal battery life annoyed the living daylights out of me.
X2 Pro - I would easily get 6hrs of screen on time on a full day with probably 15-20% left at 11pm, 7t pro i wouldn't get 4 hrs screen on time. then there's the 29 mins of charging 0-100 on the x2 pro
The thing is, there are other phones that do certain things better, such rog phone 2 has better battery, oneplus 8 pro/p40 pro had better camera, poco f2 pro had notchless screen, but lacked 90hz and miui was frustrating and it never had dual speakers and so on but no device gave an extremely good and enjoyable experience on all aspects of the phone in a very well priced package.
So I still say, it's the best phone at the moment for its price.
So, I've come to realise these are my minimum must haves from now on:
- Amoled 90hz screen
- 256gb with minimum ram of 8gb
- Battery that can last full day with at least 6hrs sot with fast charging.
- Dual speakers (none of these flat single speakers)
- Camera must be acceptable (don't need a superb p40 pro plus camera)
- A phone does not need to be priced more than £500 these days.
Yes, You're right, and thank You mate for taking the time to say it, once in a while it does not harm.
its my second weak with x2 pro
and i feel it was a huge mistake to buy!
xda don't have much support yet
realme kept sleeping for months and now the finally released flashtool,
flashtool supported format files are 6gb to download!
no custom kernels or mods available! (for kernels)
everytime any flashing is done! FORMAT is must!
finger scan doesn't work after root! (atleast i am still figuring out)
i am coming from Pocof1, and it was developer's heaven! i had 300gb of roms and kernels and tweaks!
i think i just got carried away with 12gb ram thing!
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its my second weak with x2 pro
and i feel it was a huge mistake to buy!
xda don't have much support yet
realme kept sleeping for months and now the finally released flashtool,
flashtool supported format files are 6gb to download!
no custom kernels or mods available! (for kernels)
everytime any flashing is done! FORMAT is must!
finger scan doesn't work after root! (atleast i am still figuring out)
i am coming from Pocof1, and it was developer's heaven! i had 300gb of roms and kernels and tweaks!
i think i just got carried away with 12gb ram thing!
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LOS with working FP here + Gcam and awesome SOT for me. On stock 5-6 hours, with LOS actually 6 hours and 20% left.
Really can't complain so far.
YasuHamed said:
its my second weak with x2 pro
and i feel it was a huge mistake to buy!
xda don't have much support yet
realme kept sleeping for months and now the finally released flashtool,
flashtool supported format files are 6gb to download!
no custom kernels or mods available! (for kernels)
everytime any flashing is done! FORMAT is must!
finger scan doesn't work after root! (atleast i am still figuring out)
i am coming from Pocof1, and it was developer's heaven! i had 300gb of roms and kernels and tweaks!
i think i just got carried away with 12gb ram thing!
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Fingerprint works since c26 or c27 software I think. We're on c29 now. Yes I agree about the lack of modding support since the phone is not very popular unfortunately. That's just one side of it thought, the phone itself is fantastic in my opinion. There's nothing close to it that I could get for this money.