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Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
Michael1290 said:
Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
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You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
Jason2k13 said:
You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
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Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
Michael1290 said:
Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
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Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
Jason2k13 said:
Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
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What about triangle away and resetting the binary counter back to zero? I think its not possible right now on i9500 variant.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium
yes right now its not possible for the i9500
Rooting all depends on your usage.
The benefits being custom roms, but again it all depends if you want to keep flashing and ensuring you always maximize the phone to its full potential.
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super nice and very good !
THX
If you don't know exact reason why you want to root your phone then rooting just for rooting makes no sense. Root access by itself won't make your device any better. Also try to remember that there are many guys here that blow their phones by messing with them.
I've rooted my old sgs2 after few months and used it that way. After some time the only thing I needed root for was the possibility to move apps data to sdcard.
My sgs4 is not rooted for now because I don't need it. Playing with mods or "removing bloatware" is total nonsense to me as I prefer stable device. Also flashing custom roms is nor for me. So widely spoken app Titanium Backup I've used maybe twice in a year, the same I can say about clockwork mod. Just have no time to mess and repair all the time because I need working device as it helps me a lot in my work as smartphone and assistant, not as subject to experiments.
Guy from that video nicely explained what is root for and all of this is definitely true (part about security can be controversial because rooting and installing su does not patch security hole and permission prompt appear only when root access is achieved by su not by security hole), but for me in everyday use it turned to be as useful as towel for a fish.
Android by itself is very good in terms of functionality and far from being restricted in a apple way. You cannot compare root to jailbreak because jb on iphone is needed to get some basic functions. Android has all of this out of the box.
Remember also that rooted phone looses OTA upgrade possibility.
Everything depends on how you use your phone - there is the answer to your question
I am the complete opposite. If I have a device running an os, whether it be a computer, smartphone or whatever, I want full control of the device and it's os as it should be. I want full axx, full power of it.
edit: forgot why I came here in the first place, to the OP, glad you liked the vid and also glad my post wasn't wasted space like the majority of posts I see on here all the time, take it easy.
Rooting all depends on your need while using s4
If you're asking yourself that question then no, you shouldn't root it.
Hey everyone.
Thanks for keeping such a great information forum. I had a evo a few years ago and everyone was a lot of help with rooting.
So I just get this s4. And I really don't want to pay for hot spotting. Would love to gain access to this. Anyone know how without rooting?
I've been looking into it for ago couple days now. Then I read about the Knox count. Really Don't want to lose my warranty really if I want I can go get another phone with sprints lease system if need but still.
Anyway. Are there any ways of getting that hot spot or teathr ability.
Are there any roots for the 4.3. I tried doing a autoloader and it failed.
No PIT partition it said. I still can't find out how to fix that or if I really should. Like I said. I'm glad now it didn't go tthru and ruin the Knox.
Any help links tips anything. Good things to look out for would be greatly appreciated.
Even if it takes me going anything nd getting a new phone again. Maybe the note 3? Can you root them for wife easier?
Thanks in advance
With this version of Pda Net (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.foxfi2) you should be able to do USB tethering and BT tethering without root. It will not do Wifi tethering, AFAIK, because of something in the stock rom.
As mentioned you can try PDA.net I've owned that for years but haven't had to use it on any of my recent Android devices yet. I root and use hotspod mods.
Read here to root without problems.
Then got to crawrj's thread and grab the hotspot mod. (If you are on stock choose the Odex version).
Since you're coming back to the forums I'm sure it would help you greatly if you spend some time and read through the how-to's and stickies.
Good luck.
Thanks guys. I have been trying to read thru every chance I get. Look forward to getting back in the loop.
Hi I just got a new sprint Galaxy s4. I had a Samsung infuse 4g that I rooted and unlocked (which btw was hard to do for a newb way back then) but I never flashed a rom. To be honest I was afraid that I would destroy the phone. They are not cheap. I still have the infuse, so I guess I could practice flashing roms on that one but is it basically the same process? I just really really do not want to destroy my beautiful phone. Is it risky to flash ROMS or put other stuff in the phone? Thanks for the advice. This is an awesome site.
*Anything* you flash to your phone carries a risk (however minute) that it'll brick the device. The root method may be different, but for the most part ROM flashing is the same across any Android device.
IMPORTANT: Check your device model, since there are two variants of the Sprint S4 out there (SPH-L720 and SPH-L720T). The 720T doesn't work with all ROMs, and (last I checked) you lose the Spark connectivity, but 1x/3G/LTE will still work. I have one of the old models before Sprint started rolling out Spark, so I haven't really been keeping up with that part of it.
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Hi I just got a new sprint Galaxy s4. I had a Samsung infuse 4g that I rooted and unlocked (which btw was hard to do for a newb way back then) but I never flashed a rom. To be honest I was afraid that I would destroy the phone. They are not cheap. I still have the infuse, so I guess I could practice flashing roms on that one but is it basically the same process? I just really really do not want to destroy my beautiful phone. Is it risky to flash ROMS or put other stuff in the phone? Thanks for the advice. This is an awesome site.
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once you get the rooting done here is a great place to start looking for ROM's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303917
cyberweasal said:
once you get the rooting done here is a great place to start looking for ROM's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303917
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thanks for replying. I posted a question on the rooting thread regarding the s4. I was wondering about rooting it with my
Android version. I believe it's the latest but was not sure. Do you know if it's relatively safe to try that or are there issues like boot loops? Maybe I should leave well enough alone because I doubt I could fix a brick. These are really nice phones...thanks for your help
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thanks for replying. I posted a question on the rooting thread regarding the s4. I was wondering about rooting it with my
Android version. I believe it's the latest but was not sure. Do you know if it's relatively safe to try that or are there issues like boot loops? Maybe I should leave well enough alone because I doubt I could fix a brick. These are really nice phones...thanks for your help
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i had no problems. that being said. make sure you also have a stock rom down loaded on the phone or on a pc to fall back on, that way if you do boot loop you can just flash that. also once rooted make a backup!
you can root without doing a new rom or even choose a rom thats mostly stock with minimal changes its up to you how deep you go.
first thing if first once you root if you have KNOX you WILL flag the knox warranty count by 1 and that is not reversible yet.
good luck
Hi guys, after overthinking it *way* too much I decided to order a new S7E through my provider (T-mobile) in Holland.
I was afraid to get one because i'm clumsy as hell and drop my phones hundreds of time. Till now i've always been extremely lucky (S1, S3, G3) but the S7 is very shatter prone to say the least...
After reading countless threads and videos about screenprotectors (liquid, TG, plastic, cases) I still don't know what to choose
Anyway, I'm getting it tomorrow and I read that knox get tripped as soon as you root.
Does anyone in Holland have experience with warranty being rejected because knox was tripped?
I think I really want to root (Titanium backup, xposed mods, several apps that work better with root) but maybe I'll have to hold off until I know for sure that the hardware is working fine?
So IF I decide to go for it and root with CF-Root, is it true that when using Flashfire you basically don't need TWRP anymore as you can flash zipfiles and create/restore backups with it?
And when you root, do you immediately lose automatic OTA? Or do you lose that when flashing a customized rom?
Thanks for any tips
if you install customized rom so need TRWP !
get new s7 phone
- no install new system update
- odin flash CF auto root - http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/sm-g935-exynos-cf-auto-root-t3337354
- odin flash TRWP
after
- TRWP install Phoenix ROM
- TRWP install Protheus Kernel
- enjoy your Life and great phone
Dont go for the glass protector try to get a solution based screen protector And if you care for warranty dont root, until rooting without tripping knox possible .
Flashing custom rom will loose the ability to OTA. But, most custom roms support their own OTA
I am not on the only root thing, it is always better to have a custom recovery when you are in to modding.
dayl1ght said:
if you install customized rom so need TRWP !
get new s7 phone
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I will certainly look into optimized stock roms as soon as I have rooted, the question still is, to root or not to root
I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
sohojmanush said:
Dont go for the glass protector try to get a solution based screen protector And if you care for warranty dont root, until rooting without tripping knox possible .
Flashing custom rom will loose the ability to OTA. But, most custom roms support their own OTA
I am not on the only root thing, it is always better to have a custom recovery when you are in to modding.
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I've normally not been really worried about warranty, but i've read many warnings from people here that your screen might go bad after a month or two, so I guess I want knox to be untripped :|
And you're right, when using custom roms it might be safer to have TWRP to come to the rescue when needed.
latino147 said:
I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
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in Europe root phones , maybe no warranty.
only UK have warranty with Root Phone
Try not to drop it.
latino147 said:
I will certainly look into optimized stock roms as soon as I have rooted, the question still is, to root or not to root
I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
I've normally not been really worried about warranty, but i've read many warnings from people here that your screen might go bad after a month or two, so I guess I want knox to be untripped :|
And you're right, when using custom roms it might be safer to have TWRP to come to the rescue when needed.
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Actually for Samsung it doesn't matter , get Smart Switch> Download mode > brand new OS > (Except) Knox tripped . But, Smart Switch take ages to download .. to me no matter how fast my connection is. you know OEM server's are always slow
Hi all.
I am really intrigued by some roms i see here especially Kingrom. I have never rooted a phone or anything past that but i am pretty tech savvy and have done some crazy stuff like downgrading and installing custom bootroms and OS's on nintendo 3ds which was a harrowing multi hour experience.
Anyway, before i root and install a custom recovery like TWRP, what are the dangers and downsides of starting this journey? Is it possible to un-root and go back to fully factory like-new? Does rooting and custom romming trip knox? Can i still get OTA updates from samsung?
what are the dangers and downsides of starting this journey?
You can brick your Device
Is it possible to un-root and go back to fully factory like-new?
yes, make a Full Backup
Does rooting and custom romming trip knox?
With Root trip KNOX
Can i still get OTA updates from samsung?
No, dont need it
if you use Kingrom
prepare use Phoenix Rom
dayl1ght said:
what are the dangers and downsides of starting this journey?
You can brick your Device
Is it possible to un-root and go back to fully factory like-new?
yes, make a Full Backup
Does rooting and custom romming trip knox?
With Root trip KNOX
Can i still get OTA updates from samsung?
No, dont need it
if you use Kingrom
prepare use Phoenix Rom
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How do i make a backup before i start root?
What is the downside of tripping knox? I dont have carrier, and no US warranty because of international phone, i have insurance from B&H but they dont check knox i think
Once Knox is tripped you will never ever be able to use Samsung Pay and find it difficult, if not impossible, to use Android Pay.
liquidguru said:
Once Knox is tripped you will never ever be able to use Samsung Pay and find it difficult, if not impossible, to use Android Pay.
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never use and never will use those, so i guess ill go with root!
In the S7 you can not brick brick your phone you can always boot in recovery and install everything, the KNOX counter once it gets reset nothing can be done. Rooting opens up the possibilities on the phone and its insane
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In the S7 you can not brick brick your phone you can always boot in recovery and install everything, the KNOX counter once it gets reset nothing can be done. Rooting opens up the possibilities on the phone and its insane
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what is benefit of keeping knox? i dont have samsung warranty and i never will use samsung/android pay? does it protect against viruses or something?
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what is benefit of keeping knox? i dont have samsung warranty and i never will use samsung/android pay? does it protect against viruses or something?
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KNOX is more towards enterprise, if you dont have warranty then what are you waiting for go ahead Root it, its not difficult just look at the you tube videos and hear what they explain carefully also have a look here
forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/recovery-official-twrp-hero2lte-3-0-0-0-t3334084
kofman13 said:
what is benefit of keeping knox? i dont have samsung warranty and i never will use samsung/android pay? does it protect against viruses or something?
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If you plan on selling your phone in the future, it's price maybe be affected, as the new owner will not be able to use the pay services.
Ultimately it's your choice. This is the first phone I haven't rooted. Every day I think I might, but I find it hard to actually go through with it. It works completely well without rooting. The main reason I used to root was to change the DPI, but you can do that without rooting on this phone.
liquidguru said:
If you plan on selling your phone in the future, it's price maybe be affected, as the new owner will not be able to use the pay services.
Ultimately it's your choice. This is the first phone I haven't rooted. Every day I think I might, but I find it hard to actually go through with it. It works completely well without rooting. The main reason I used to root was to change the DPI, but you can do that without rooting on this phone.
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i was mainly interested in kingrom because i hear it boosts performance and lets you block ads with mega ad blocker... is it not worth it?
It really is up to you. Rooting and tinkering is a lot of fun, which is why XDA exists. Following the rooting and flashing guides you shouldn't have any problems with your device. Custom ROMs and Xposed modules can add a lot of additional features and customization to your phone. This time, for this phone, I just feel it's not needed, but that's just me.
I use Adguard to block ads. It works really well on non-rooted phones.
I think I'd get a Nexus device now, if I wanted to start rooting and flashing ROMs. A lot of the real innovation is done with CM-based ROMs, which are extremely unlikely on new Sammy Exynos devices.