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[Q] Samsung Galaxy Note I9228 4G

Hi all,
I have an unclocked Samsung Galaxy Note I9228 from China Mobile. I was hoping to use it on At&t's 4g network but am currently only getting the edge network. I have read news articles talking about the radio chipset:
"Spreadtrum's SC8803G enables TD-SCDMA, EDGE, GPRS and GSM operation and supports TD-HSDPA at 2.8Mbps and TD-HSUPA at 2.2Mbps." - Streetinsider.com
Does anyone know if I can receive At&t's 4G network? If so, what are the steps to configure the device? Thanks in advance!

That's a TERRIBLE 3G data rate...!

If the 3G speeds are not that great, does this mean that the I9228 cannot support 4g?

ohnanoko said:
Hi all,
I have an unclocked Samsung Galaxy Note I9228 from China Mobile. I was hoping to use it on At&t's 4g network but am currently only getting the edge network. I have read news articles talking about the radio chipset:
"Spreadtrum's SC8803G enables TD-SCDMA, EDGE, GPRS and GSM operation and supports TD-HSDPA at 2.8Mbps and TD-HSUPA at 2.2Mbps." - Streetinsider.com
Does anyone know if I can receive At&t's 4G network? If so, what are the steps to configure the device? Thanks in advance!
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The "TD" refers to Time Division multiplexing as opposed to the Code Division multiplexing used by UMTS/HSPA standards in other parts of the world, including AT&T. Specifically, TD-SCDMA and TD-HSDPA, are both proprietary technologies developed exclusively by and for China. There is nothing that you can configure on your device to make it compatible with AT&T's 3G/4G network; it simply lacks the required compatible hardware. Buy an N7000. That's your solution. Sorry.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
The "TD" refers to Time Division multiplexing as opposed to the Code Division multiplexing used by UMTS/HSPA standards in other parts of the world, including AT&T. Specifically, TD-SCDMA and TD-HSDPA, are both proprietary technologies developed exclusively by and for China. There is nothing that you can configure on your device to make it compatible with AT&T's 3G/4G network; it simply lacks the required compatible hardware. Buy an N7000. That's your solution. Sorry.
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No worries. Thank you so much for a quick answer! I appreciate the complete picture/ background/ history as well. You saved me a lot of time researching the problem and visiting the AT&T store.
Will the N7000 support AT&T's 4G network?

ohnanoko said:
No worries. Thank you so much for a quick answer! I appreciate the complete picture/ background/ history as well. You saved me a lot of time researching the problem and visiting the AT&T store.
Will the N7000 support AT&T's 4G network?
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It's important to know exactly what you talking about when getting caught up in marketing catches phrases like 3G and 4G etc.
AT&T's high speed network uses two different technologies, HSPA and LTE. HSPA is more of an evolution of UMTS, kinda like how EDGE is an evolution of GPRS. LTE, on the other hand, is a completely new technology from ground up. As it stands, LTE is easily about 5 to 10 times faster than HSPA on average, with speeds in the 30 to 60mbit range.
AT&T markets both technologies as "4G," even though only LTE is considered a "true" 4G technology.
The unlocked N7000 does not have LTE capabilities, but it does support AT&T's HSPA, which realistically should yield download speeds around about 3 to 9mbit. Is it fast as LTE? No, not by a long shot. Is it "fast enough?" For most people, yes, but that's up to you.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
The "TD" refers to Time Division multiplexing as opposed to the Code Division multiplexing used by UMTS/HSPA standards in other parts of the world, including AT&T. Specifically, TD-SCDMA and TD-HSDPA, are both proprietary technologies developed exclusively by and for China. There is nothing that you can configure on your device to make it compatible with AT&T's 3G/4G network; it simply lacks the required compatible hardware. Buy an N7000. That's your solution. Sorry.
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Close. The TD refers to Time Division Duplexing, i.e. the same RF carrier is used for both uplink and downlink transmissions.
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
It's important to know exactly what you talking about when getting caught up in marketing catches phrases like 3G and 4G etc.
AT&T's high speed network uses two different technologies, HSPA and LTE. HSPA is more of an evolution of UMTS, kinda like how EDGE is an evolution of GPRS. LTE, on the other hand, is a completely new technology from ground up. As it stands, LTE is easily about 5 to 10 times faster than HSPA on average, with speeds in the 30 to 60mbit range.
AT&T markets both technologies as "4G," even though only LTE is considered a "true" 4G technology.
The unlocked N7000 does not have LTE capabilities, but it does support AT&T's HSPA, which realistically should yield download speeds around about 3 to 9mbit. Is it fast as LTE? No, not by a long shot. Is it "fast enough?" For most people, yes, but that's up to you.
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Awesome! Great response! I would thank you again if I could.
I'll check out the speeds at my local AT&T store. Thanks for the feedback! I'll be researching the pros and cons of the N7000 and the i717.

[GUIDE][JUNE 23rd '13] Unlocked Phones on T-Mobile Network

I have spent about a month researching T-Mobile and have developed this guide to help everyone who needs the answers to the same questions I had. Soon this guide will be put into a PDF version that is all snazzy looking and will be updated as much as possible. Please note: I am a father and husband with my own business, so I am busy but ALWAYS mobile, feel free to PM me.
I am trying to list the best phones with the top specs in this thread. If I helped you at all, please thank me.
*** All phones confirmed working on 4G may depend on the coverage for your area.
If you have any changes or things I can add to this please PM me and DO NOT post it here. I will update the thread with credit to you!
Update 06/23/2013
Thanks to an awesome member, ozzmanj1, we have now added the Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY R800AT to the list of working 3G/4G devices.
Update 03/20/2013
There will be a website dedicated to T-Mobile Network Phones I am building because I love T-Mobile that much Customer for almost 10 years now. That is already under development.
There is a new prepaid company using T-Mobile towers, I am in contact with many reps, they are called Solavei. It is an amazing opportunity to get money by referring people to join Solavei.
SOLAVEI - You pay $49/mo for 4GB of Data (no caps), Unlimited Everything Else. - I have used their service and I love it. The incentives to get friends to join and family, and even get paid for it, epic. I have made money and continue to, great setup. You can get to the point where you have no phone bill, PERIOD. I'm almost there xD
MINIMUM SPEC REQUIREMENTS
These are the specs each phone must have to be put on my list
5MP Front Camera or Higher
Front Facing Camera
1GB Ram or Higher
1GHz CPU or Higher
Dual-Core or Higher
4.0" Screen or Higher
250ppi or Higher
BEFORE BUYING
TERMS
GSM // (Global System for Mobile Communications) Also known as 2G, EDGE.
EDGE // EDGE is the new name for GSM 384. The technology was named GSM 384 because of the fact that it provided Data Transmission at a rate of 384 Kbps.
2G // Also known as GSM. Short for second-generation wireless telephone technology. Second generation 2G cellular telecom networks were commercially launched on the GSM standard in Finland by Radiolinja (now part of Elisa Oyj) in 1991.
3G // Short for third Generation, is a term used to represent the 3rd generation of mobile telecommunications technology. Also called Tri-Band 3G.
4G // The fourth generation of mobile phone mobile communications standards. It is a successor of the third generation (3G) standards. A 4G system provides mobile ultra-broadband Internet access, for example to laptops with USB wireless modems, to smartphones, and to other mobile devices.
HSPA // an amalgamation of two mobile telephony protocols, High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) and High Speed Uplink Packet Access (HSUPA), that extends and improves the performance of existing 3rd generation mobile telecommunication networks utilizing the WCDMA protocols. A further improved 3GPP standard, Evolved HSPA (also known as HSPA+), was released late in 2008 with subsequent worldwide adoption beginning in 2010. The newer standard allows bit-rates to reach as high as 168 Mbit/s in the downlink and 22 Mbit/s in the uplink.
NETWORK BANDS & FACTS
T-Mobile offers GSM service in both the 850MHz and 1900MHz frequency bands.
T-Mobile utilizes the 1700MHz, 2100MHz, and 1900MHz frequency band for their 3G data network.
T-Mobile utilizes the 1900MHz frequency band for their entire network. (EDGE, GPRS, VOICE, TXT)
Europe and most of the world use the 900MHz and 1800MHz frequency bands for GSM. For a device to use T-Mobile USA and work in Europe, it would need to support the 1900MHz band and one or both of the 900MHz and 1800MHz bands used in Europe.
CHECK THE BANDS!
EDGE, GPRS, VOICE, SMS/MMS > 2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G/HSPA: 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz
AFTER BUYING
CHANGE YOUR APN
Most of the time only International phones will need this step, but you should still check if your 3G is working before this step.
Worldwide APN List for GPRS/DATA > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564459
T-Mobile Guide on Changing APN > http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1979
Specs are all up to you and what you need!
PHONES THAT SUPPORT T-MOBILE BANDS
PHONES CONFIRMED TO WORK ON T-MOBILE 3G
UNLOCKED
LG Nexus 4 (4G WORKS)
Sony Xperia Ion LT28H
Samsung Galaxy S III T999 (4G WORKS)
Samsung Galaxy Nexus I9250 (4G WORKS)
AT&T HTC One S (For Help CLICK HERE)
AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket i727 (4G SHOULD WORK. VK1 T-Mobile Radio confirmed working by papabear. It can use both i717 and T989 ROMs. Accelerometer is off by 90 degrees for T989 ROMs, here is the FIX) - Confirmed by papabear
AT&T Note i717 (4G SHOULD WORK) - Confirmed by papabear
Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY R800AT (Up to 7mbps, so far!) - Confirmed by ozzmanj1 - See Device
INTERNATIONAL (Europe, Asia, UK, etc.)
COMING SOON
PHONES CONFIRMED TO WORK ON T-MOBILE 2G/EDGE
UNLOCKED
AT&T Apple iPhone 5 (3G WORKS SOMETIMES)
AT&T Apple iPhone 4/4S (3G WORKS SOMETIMES)
Samsung Galaxy S III I9300 (3G WORKS SOMETIMES) - Confirmed by papabear
All AT&T Phones Should Work (2G/EDGE - Certain Areas 3G/4G)
HTC A9191 Ace, Euro bands (GSM quad band & 3G 900/2100mhz)
INTERNATIONAL (Europe, Asia, UK, etc.)
COMING SOON
UNCONFIRMED PHONES WITH T-MOBILE BANDS
UNLOCKED
Sony Xperia T LT29i
Sony Xperia TX LT30p (Bond Phone)
INTERNATIONAL (Europe, Asia, UK, etc.)
Huawei Honor 2
Huawei Ascend D1 XL U9500E
Huawei Ascend D1
Huawei Ascend D quad XL
Huawei Ascend D quad
Huawei Honor II Quad-Core
Meizu MX Dual-Core
Meizu MX Quad-Core
Xiaomi M1
Xiaomi M2
K-Touch Treasure V8 Tegra 3
K-Touch Hornet II V9 Tegra 3
Send me your working list of phones that are international or unlocked and band specs so I can update this list as frequently as possible.
[email protected] or PM me on XDA.
SPECIAL THANKS
Jeremy Gruver (Scath)
All Authors and Responders of the Threads I have linked to
Everyone who reads this and is helped by it
DISCLAIMER:
This guide is meant to be a reference and help you decide on a phone to use with T-Mobile's Network ONLY. Any advice posted by others are the opinions of the author of that post and is not official advice from me. I am not responsible for any advice given by others that may be incorrect.

hi
Thank you for this valuable training.

You are very welcome! I smiled reading this, makes me happy knowing I helped someone!

Great job man I'm glad you finished it. You can really help a lot of people

Not at the tippy top, but the ATT i727 Skyrocket works well on T-mo

papabear said:
Not at the tippy top, but the ATT i727 Skyrocket works well on T-mo
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Thanks very much ill add it! Is 4G working?
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This looks like a great guide

A lot of hard work went into it .... and love!

Scath said:
Thanks very much ill add it! Is 4G working?
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Yes, also the ATT SGH-i717 Note1 works as well. same radios can be flashed as well. So will sim unlock both phones work on T-mo. Some, like me, have better luck with T-mo radios that can be flashed.

papabear said:
Yes, also the ATT SGH-i717 Note1 works as well. same radios can be flashed as well. So will sim unlock both phones work on T-mo. Some, like me, have better luck with T-mo radios that can be flashed.
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Thanks again! Added and credited!

Bump - reserved

We need more compatible phones added everyone Going to be adding more soon!

Thanks for your research. In the market for a new phone to get off AT&T, may give the Sony LT30p a shot. Will report back if I go that route.
=RV=

Re: [GUIDE][MAR 2ND 2013] Unlocked Phones on T-Mobile Network
HTC A9191 Ace, Euro bands (GSM quad band & 3G 900/2100mhz) - I can confirm voice and data work, but no 3G coverage in my area - I'm in a rural part of northern Indiana. Other's experience may vary.
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Adding this to the list guys, thank you! I have a new update coming soon that confirms All AT&T Phones working in certain areas, mainly large markets and cities.

dude thanks for the information, it's just what a lot of people are looking. Keep up the good work.

Re: [GUIDE][MAR 20TH] Unlocked Phones on T-Mobile Network
What's the secret then? Cause, I have a factory unlocked Att Note i717 that just refuses to fully function on Tmobile. (User error clearly).
I just gave up and bought the Tmobile Note2.. Do tell?
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missjennyfleur said:
What's the secret then? Cause, I have a factory unlocked Att Note i717 that just refuses to fully function on Tmobile. (User error clearly).
I just gave up and bought the Tmobile Note2.. Do tell?
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I think it needs to use the fast.tmobile.com APN. Check with Howard Forums user milan03. He seems to know his stuff.

Found this thread and wanted to add that I have an unlocked Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY R800at that I am using on Tmo in Davis County UT (North of SLC) and I get hspa+ on it. Generally consistent speeds of:
5-7mbps down
1-3 mbp up
Been pretty pleased

Hello,
Thanks for this great thread!
I will go for 1 month in USA during holidays and I would know if my (European) HTC One X+ (witch is unlocked) will works on T-Mobile 3G network...
The HTC One X+ is announced as compatible with these bands : HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
And accordind to the first post of this thread, T-Mobile 3G network is using these bands : 3G/HSPA: 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz
It seems that my HTC One X+ is not compatible with the 1700 MHz band... so do you think that my HTC One X+ couldn't be connected to T-Mobile 3G network... or maybe the compatibility with the others T-Mobile 3G bands are enough?
Many thanks in advacne for you help!!!

Cellular strength and throughput

We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the ASUS ROG Phone II's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.

What I'd like to know since it's related to the subject is does anyone think it will work on Verizon given it has most of the bands Verizon needs. I'm cautious about this. Especially with the tencent version because for example, I bought the Razer phone 2 and it was compatible with their imei system, but would not give me more than a random interval of 2sec data, which making a call would kill said data.
I use att but I'd really like to buy the rog 2 and use it on Verizon if I can..

More info if it'll have bands 66 and 71; if VoLTE is supported, if Wifi Calling is supported would be great. Getting conflicting info.

I have the TEncent edition. Is there any app I could use to find out what LTE bands the phone could support?

Cellendril said:
More info if it'll have bands 66 and 71; if VoLTE is supported, if Wifi Calling is supported would be great. Getting conflicting info.
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for chinese 5999 version
band 66 yes
band 71 no
intl version may be the same. information from ASUS taiwan website.

whyou said:
for chinese 5999 version
band 66 yes
band 71 no
intl version may be the same. information from ASUS taiwan website.
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I hope they add Band 71. My Razer Phone 2 sports it:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA: 1/2/3/4/5/8
FDD-LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/14/17/18/19/20/26/28/29/30/32/66/71
TDD LTE: 38/39/40/41
TD-SCDMA: 34/39
LAA: 46
4x4 MIMO: 1/2/3/4/7/30/38/66​

XDAForumMember said:
What I'd like to know since it's related to the subject is does anyone think it will work on Verizon given it has most of the bands Verizon needs. I'm cautious about this. Especially with the tencent version because for example, I bought the Razer phone 2 and it was compatible with their imei system, but would not give me more than a random interval of 2sec data, which making a call would kill said data.
I use att but I'd really like to buy the rog 2 and use it on Verizon if I can..
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This does not currently work with Verizon because the IMEIs are "not certified for use on their network". Asus is probably not going to pay to certify the China model so they might never work.

cellular band tencent version 128 amd 512
does the tencent 128 has a different cellular band with its 512 variant? im curious about it since i cant find any full phone scpecification and comparison of those variants from tencent.

Cellendril said:
More info if it'll have bands 66 and 71; if VoLTE is supported, if Wifi Calling is supported would be great. Getting conflicting info.
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I wish that I could cleanly translate their manual. It has specific volte comments in it bc even though it's in Chinese, some phrases like volte are English.

standupdad said:
I wish that I could cleanly translate their manual. It has specific volte comments in it bc even though it's in Chinese, some phrases like volte are English.
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Translated...
Description: The Nano SIM card slot supports GSM / GPRS / EDGE, WCDMA / HSPA + / DC-HSPA +, FDD-LTE and TD-LTE DSDV network bandwidth. Two Nano SIM cards can simultaneously standby VOLTE 4G call service, but cannot connect two FDD-LTE and TD-LTE mobile data at the same time. Please ask your service operator if your region can support DSDV warnings! Do not use sharp tools or solvents to avoid damage to your phone. ROG Phone (ASUS_1001DA / ASUS_1001DB) requires a SIM card of Nano SIM size, please ask your service carrier. If you cut your SIM card yourself, it may cause a SIM card list.
I don't understand the VoLTE comment. Is that provided on different bands in China than here in the states? Hence why it would be my work here but will in the China?

Bummer, the Asus Rog Phone 2 USA version (ZS660KL-S855P-12G512G-BK) is listed on B&H and still has the same crappy bands listed as the Tencent version.
That means no Verizon, and T-Mobile will not have Band 71 so you won't get the full speeds there either.

RogPhoney said:
Bummer, the Asus Rog Phone 2 USA version (ZS660KL-S855P-12G512G-BK) is listed on B&H and still has the same crappy bands listed as the Tencent version.
That means no Verizon, and T-Mobile will not have Band 71 so you won't get the full speeds there either.
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On the ASUS website the US version is listed as having bands 12 and 66. Those two bands are missing on the Tencent Version. The only missing band on the US release is band 71.
From what I've researched, T-Mobile only uses band 71 in rural areas and is reserving band 71 for 5G. Bands 12 and 66 might just be enough.

I was bummed after hearing no band 71 - which my Razer Phone 2 has - then found out that the place I go regularly in the mountains doesn't use band 71. Must just be my iPhone XS (which has band 71 and an Intel modem) is worse than the RP2.

mzahiri said:
On the ASUS website the US version is listed as having bands 12 and 66. Those two bands are missing on the Tencent Version. The only missing band on the US release is band 71.
From what I've researched, T-Mobile only uses band 71 in rural areas and is reserving band 71 for 5G. Bands 12 and 66 might just be enough.
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Wait.. I thought Tencent version has band 66?

Are you getting band 66 somehow? I have the tencent version and don't receive band 12 or 66. I also looked online again and don't see any mention of band 66.

I think the CN version did not have band 66. The USA version does.

hello any one notice beter reception with phone over older phone you had?

XDAForumMember said:
What I'd like to know since it's related to the subject is does anyone think it will work on Verizon given it has most of the bands Verizon needs. I'm cautious about this. Especially with the tencent version because for example, I bought the Razer phone 2 and it was compatible with their imei system, but would not give me more than a random interval of 2sec data, which making a call would kill said data.
I use att but I'd really like to buy the rog 2 and use it on Verizon if I can..
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I put in my Verizon sim and it registered with 4G+ data worked, called tech support and they put in a form to add the IMEI to the whitelist database.
Takes a few days.
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I have the TEncent edition. Is there any app I could use to find out what LTE bands the phone could support?
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LTE Discovery.
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RogPhoney said:
This does not currently work with Verizon because the IMEIs are "not certified for use on their network". Asus is probably not going to pay to certify the China model so they might never work.
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That is not correct, I contacted Verizon Tier 2 support yesterday after inserting my Verizon sim, it registered on the Network and gave me a 4G+ data signal.
They indicated after giving them my IMEI that it registered on the network and they submitted a form to add it to the database. The process takes about 3 business days.

NA edition on Project Fi / T-Mobile. 2 out of 3 incoming calls I've had today have NOT been delivered successfully to my phone. On one it came through to my computer (gmail / hangouts) and on the other I didn't know until I got the voicemail. My phone didn't ring and shows no missed calls!
Might have to try a different carrier. What US carrier works best with this phone? I really want to keep it!
Edit - Today (the next day) was better. 4 / 4 got through to me. Mysterious!

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That is not correct, I contacted Verizon Tier 2 support yesterday after inserting my Verizon sim, it registered on the Network and gave me a 4G+ data signal.
They indicated after giving them my IMEI that it registered on the network and they submitted a form to add it to the database. The process takes about 3 business days.
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It was correct when I tried, back when there was only the Tencent version of the phone. Is yours the Tencent one or international or US?
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NA edition on Project Fi / T-Mobile. 2 out of 3 incoming calls I've had today have NOT been delivered successfully to my phone. On one it came through to my computer (gmail / hangouts) and on the other I didn't know until I got the voicemail. My phone didn't ring and shows no missed calls!
Might have to try a different carrier. What US carrier works best with this phone? I really want to keep it!
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Did you make sure you don't have Google Voice spam filtering turned on? When I was getting incoming calls from Apple, Google was blocking them all as spam, which caused them to ring in Hangouts on my PC but not on the phone, same as you. See if the numbers show in the voice.google.com call log and if so you can flag them as "not spam" to see if that fixes it.

T-Mobile 7T Pro McLaren device 5G N71 is disabled?

Maybe I'm not reading this correctly, but when I use activity launcher to view what bands are available to enable, band N71 doesn't show as being enabled or a option to enable this. Comparing what shows as 5G on my McLaren vs my 7T show no difference at all between the two connections. Attaching the photo from what I'm looking at

This phone's 5G is currently non-standalone and probably difficult to configure. Or menus haven't kept up with the tech.

Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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chakra said:
Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.

sixxkilur said:
I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.
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Thanks for the info. But how do I get my phone to actually display a 5G connection? I'm definitely within range. However, I only get 4G LTE to show.

js042507 said:
Thanks for the info. But how do I get my phone to actually display a 5G connection? I'm definitely within range. However, I only get 4G LTE to show.
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I have not received my 5G device yet; we have only the display McLaren; no Note10+ 5G's in store they are ship to only so I have not tinkered with the devices as of yet. I can take a look at the McLaren when I go in tomorrow and see if there are any settings that have to be enabled. To my understanding it was all done via signal detection and based on the area you are in. I will have a look and get back to you guys.

sixxkilur said:
I am a T-Mobile Mobile Expert (ME).
The 5G band used by T-Mobile's OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is the low band 600Mhz; this means that the range will be significantly increased per tower at about the same speeds as the 4G LTE speeds. Our low band 5G range is 100sq miles per tower.
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Does 600mhz mean band 71? My phone shows 5G all the time but lte Discovery and signal spy say only band 2, 4, and 12. No 71, so why not?

aaronc_98 said:
Does 600mhz mean band 71? My phone shows 5G all the time but lte Discovery and signal spy say only band 2, 4, and 12. No 71, so why not?
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Yes "T-Mobile's 600 MHz Band 71 Network."
T-Mobile LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71 Frequencies 1900, 1700 def, 700 a, 600
See map for your coverage: 5g-coverage-map

sixxkilur said:
Yes "T-Mobile's 600 MHz Band 71 Network."
T-Mobile LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71 Frequencies 1900, 1700 def, 700 a, 600
See map for your coverage: 5g-coverage-map
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So why no band 71 if 5G is supposedly on the 600mhz network? What am missing?

aaronc_98 said:
So why no band 71 if 5G is supposedly on the 600mhz network? What am missing?
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All three of these are part of 5G
T-Mobile has multiple 5G bands just not all of them are implemented on large scale across the nation yet. For example the millimeter wave spectrum above 24 GHz, it is also referred to as High Band.
"Millimeter wave is incredibly fast, but the signal does not travel very far from the tower and can be disrupted by trees and windows.
We currently have 5G millimeter wave available in 6 major cities.
Speed: Fastest.
Coverage: A couple city blocks."
"Mid Band consists of spectrum between 1 GHz and 8 GHz.
Mid Band has the benefit of being fast while also covering a larger area than millimeter Wave. The breadth of coverage is vast and still delivers a fast experience.
T-Mobile has not yet deployed Mid Band 5G service.
Speed: Fast."
'Low Band consists of spectrum under 1 GHz, this includes our new 600 MHz signal.
Our newest, most powerful 600 MHz low band signal is the foundation of our 5G network. No signal goes farther or is more reliable, so with T-Mobile you’ll get 5G in more places.
Our 600 MHz signal travels several miles from the tower so we have a wide footprint. The signal also penetrates walls and deep inside buildings so it’s better indoors.
Speed: Average.
Coverage: Hundreds of square miles from the tower."

chakra said:
Could be the app needs an update to see it.
That being said on almost every speed test I have done today. My new iPhone pro xl is faster than the 1+7PT5GMCRN I think I’m sending mine back.
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The speed difference for you is that drastic that you would return it? Was it purchased outright or you paying monthly into your bill? Curious since speed itsnt my main issue, it's the terrible GPS locking issues.

Looking at the configurations of the OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren in the store; the 5G only shows when WiFi is off. All of the other settings is automatic unless they have been changed manually. You can check the main configurations in Settings>Wifi>Sim>Preferred Network.

I have not been able to get my McLaren to show 5G at all only 4G LTE. I spoke to a store rep which told me there is currently a software bug preventing it from showing. But.... They didn't seem to be too sure how the signals actually work, even mentioned MmWave for some reason.... Could be straight BS, I will do some more testing later today. My speeds are faster but not sure if its because of actually being connected to the n71 or not.

savage25rcracer said:
I have not been able to get my McLaren to show 5G at all only 4G LTE. I spoke to a store rep which told me there is currently a software bug preventing it from showing. But.... They didn't seem to be too sure how the signals actually work, even mentioned MmWave for some reason.... Could be straight BS, I will do some more testing later today. My speeds are faster but not sure if its because of actually being connected to the n71 or not.
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At least I'm not the only one. I've played with all kinds of settings, but have never seen it show a 5g signal.

js042507 said:
At least I'm not the only one. I've played with all kinds of settings, but have never seen it show a 5g signal.
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I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time

K4laz said:
I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time
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Thanks for the tip. It didn't work though. :crying:

I got mine on Saturday, and I've had 5G without doing anything. Yeah, there's a few spots where it falls back to 4G LTE, but that's expected. I'm in southern California FYI.

Didn't work for me in Chicago north burbs.

K4laz said:
I had same issue, after 30 minutes trying different things, what I did reset Wi-Fi data Bluetooth, phone comes with 2G/3G/LTE/5G by default so I click the second option 2G/3G/LTE and I reboot the phone after boot click the first 2G/3G/LTE/5G then reboot again now my phone shows 5G almost all the time
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Tried with no luck. I wonder if this has to do with a software version, what is on yours?

savage25rcracer said:
Tried with no luck. I wonder if this has to do with a software version, what is on yours?
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I got the latest update on it I live in Grand rapids Michigan
I still use my 6 months old SIM

should I buy the IN2020?

Hi! Ive been reading and I did some researching but im still confuse. Is the IN2020 the NA version or CN? With the IN2020 can I get 5g using Tmbile? How bad is it? Is better to wait for the NA version? Which band are missing? Any help please!

I'd like to know as well. Bought mine on eBay and it's IN2020 with international ware. I'm on Verizon with no issues but still curious.

I've got IN2020 via Wonda Mobile for the UK and it works fine, it has been flashed with OOS.
I've managed to pick up 5g via Three which was unexpected as I wasn't aware that there was 5g in that area. It's super fast, faster than my 4g in the city but no way near the ones I see in the US. I believe for the US the IN2020 will be missing a few bands so you might not get all of the 5g networks out there.
If you check Wonda they list what bands the phone caters for.

Yeah I have it on tmo in USA and I get 5g works great!

kevkid said:
Yeah I have it on tmo in USA and I get 5g works great!
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Really? I heard it was missing tmobile's band?
How much download speed were you getting via 5g?

it might show 5G but i doubt it's getting the throughput.
I saw this on chinese a OP7 showing 4G and was just getting 3G speed since it's missing Band 20

wilpang said:
I've got IN2020 via Wonda Mobile for the UK and it works fine, it has been flashed with OOS.
I've managed to pick up 5g via Three which was unexpected as I wasn't aware that there was 5g in that area. It's super fast, faster than my 4g in the city but no way near the ones I see in the US. I believe for the US the IN2020 will be missing a few bands so you might not get all of the 5g networks out there.
If you check Wonda they list what bands the phone caters for.
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Did you flash global or eu rom?

matchankh said:
Did you flash global or eu rom?
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It was flashed by the seller to global rom.

kevkid said:
Yeah I have it on tmo in USA and I get 5g works great!
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Can you test the internet speed on 5g? Accordibg the band description it does not have the tmobile 5g bands at all.

HottieLinus said:
Really? I heard it was missing tmobile's band?
How much download speed were you getting via 5g?
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Strange the indicator states I have 5g but getting 60mbps, nowhere near the 1gb/sec.
I dropped down to 4g and got 30mbps. I wonder what's going on?
Could be that indicator just says it has 5g as a previous user stated. Damn, sux that it isn't actually 5g but eh works well enough for me.

Bestplayer55 said:
Can you test the internet speed on 5g? Accordibg the band description it does not have the tmobile 5g bands at all.
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Okay so after some digging here is what I found: This ebay listing where I purchased my device:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OnePlus-8-...hash=item342648c8ac:m:m9cL3Ly1MTYuW6lfrhtO1Xg
It states: 5G band 41(2500), 78(3500), 79(4700)
same here: https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_8_pro-9919.php
Looking at the t-mobile website: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/coverage/t-mobile-network
it states: Frequencies that can provide 5G:
Band n71 (600 MHz)
Band N260 (39 GHz)
Band N261 (28 GHz)
Band n41 (2.5 GHz)
so... t-mobile USA supports it?

I just received the IN2020 version today but the OEM unlocking is greyed out????

kevkid said:
Strange the indicator states I have 5g but getting 60mbps, nowhere near the 1gb/sec.
I dropped down to 4g and got 30mbps. I wonder what's going on?
Could be that indicator just says it has 5g as a previous user stated. Damn, sux that it isn't actually 5g but eh works well enough for me.
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TMobile 5g speeds are about the same as 4g rates. Maybe a 10% improvement but not much difference. Sometimes my 4g speeds are faster than 5g. Obviously their network needs some help, lol but it'll get there.

chetly968 said:
TMobile 5g speeds are about the same as 4g rates. Maybe a 10% improvement but not much difference. Sometimes my 4g speeds are faster than 5g. Obviously their network needs some help, lol but it'll get there.
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Thanks for that, it is strange I even called them up and we're not helpful lol

kevkid said:
Okay so after some digging here is what I found: This ebay listing where I purchased my device:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OnePlus-8-...hash=item342648c8ac:m:m9cL3Ly1MTYuW6lfrhtO1Xg
It states: 5G band 41(2500), 78(3500), 79(4700)
same here: https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_8_pro-9919.php
Looking at the t-mobile website: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/coverage/t-mobile-network
it states: Frequencies that can provide 5G:
Band n71 (600 MHz)
Band N260 (39 GHz)
Band N261 (28 GHz)
Band n41 (2.5 GHz)
so... t-mobile USA supports it?
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Yes this phone support n41 but we don't know can it use US band B2 / B4 as anchor band for n41. Someone please test this in 5G-area. Please then send log to me. Here is instruction how to get log file: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g...droid-phone/#OnePlus,_Oppo_and_RealMe_devices and that log file can send to https://cacombos.com/contribute so i can parse log if support n41 in USA. on Cellmapper App example should see then 5G State Connected when really connected to 5G-network. Don't trust 5G icon because it appear from UpperLayerIndicator message.
I have listed some 4G combos supported in T-Mobile USA network: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2020&combolist=america_tmus_plmns .

olkitu said:
Yes this phone support n41 but we don't know can it use US band B2 / B4 as anchor band for n41. Someone please test this in 5G-area. Please then send log to me. Here is instruction how to get log file: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g...droid-phone/#OnePlus,_Oppo_and_RealMe_devices and that log file can send to https://cacombos.com/contribute so i can parse log if support n41 in USA. on Cellmapper App example should see then 5G State Connected when really connected to 5G-network. Don't trust 5G icon because it appear from UpperLayerIndicator message.
I have listed some 4G combos supported in T-Mobile USA network: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2020&combolist=america_tmus_plmns .
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Yes I have already done this recently thank you. How can I find if there is a 5g tower near me that supports n41?
Can you point me in the right direction to learn about anchor bands and how it works?
Thank you!

kevkid said:
Yes I have already done this recently thank you. How can I find if there is a 5g tower near me that supports n41?
Can you point me in the right direction to learn about anchor bands and how it works?
Thank you!
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I don't know if in USA have any map where used different frequency. n41 is used in Sprint network but should be available for T-Mobile customer after merge.
Current 5G NR NSA (Non-Standalone) network require 4G LTE for signaling - data could transfered LTE+NR or LTE / NR depends configuration. 5G SA (Standalone) then works only with 5G band but i think take few years to get implement to network.

T-Mobile's N71 is one of the most exciting things to happen to phones. 600MHZ 5g? I would definitely get the IN2025. I just grabbed a IN2025 from Amazon for $899 because it has a damaged box

dgunn said:
I just received the IN2020 version today but the OEM unlocking is greyed out????
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can this be fixed¿
this IN2020 model can be ROOTED¿