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Topaz for US UMTS Band? - Might not happen (see post #11)

Is Topaz is available for sale for US UMTS bands? In all the online shops i see this phone only with UMTS 900 and 2100. I am planning to buy one but i dont see one with UMTS 850 and 1900.

I'm still waiting for 850mhz. It clearly isn't out yet.

3G for AT&T US?
Does anyone have any info on whether and if yes, when, the Topaz will be offered with the US 3G bands??

I'm Not sure which bands AT&T uses seeing I'm with T-mobile but here are the bands the phone has.
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
3G on T-mobile does not work but I don't mind because Edge is fast enough for me. I had faster loading times on Webpages yesterday than my freind with a touch pro on Sprint's 3G. So ya. I don't know anyone with AT&T or else I'd throw the SIM in and try it.

HTC Touch Freak said:
I'm Not sure which bands AT&T uses seeing I'm with T-mobile but here are the bands the phone has.
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
3G on T-mobile does not work but I don't mind because Edge is fast enough for me. I had faster loading times on Webpages yesterday than my freind with a touch pro on Sprint's 3G. So ya. I don't know anyone with AT&T or else I'd throw the SIM in and try it.
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If that is correct -----the UMTS 1900+850 part----- then those are the AT&T 3G frequencies. Where did you see those bands?

mush10 said:
If that is correct -----the UMTS 1900+850 part----- then those are the AT&T 3G frequencies. Where did you see those bands?
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If you go to Settings/All Settings/Personal/Phone/Click on the Band Tab it is under the Selet your GSM/UMTS band.
If I go to the mall today I will stop by the AT&T store and see if someone there is willing to insert their SIM in it to see if it gets 3G. If so I will post up.

HTC Touch Freak said:
If you go to Settings/All Settings/Personal/Phone/Click on the Band Tab it is under the Selet your GSM/UMTS band.
If I go to the mall today I will stop by the AT&T store and see if someone there is willing to insert their SIM in it to see if it gets 3G. If so I will post up.
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That is great!! If you can check and let us know that would be a great help!!
Is UMTS band availability is all software/firmware related.. i thought thats hardware.

having those band settings does not mean it will work on US 3G networks. for example, the UK Touch HD (from the UK) has the same band listings as above but the radio doesn't support at&t's 3G bands (850/1900). it will work for voice and EDGE internet speeds without issue. it's a hardare limitation. 3 months after releasing the UK HD, HTC released a Telstra (Australia) version of the Touch HD that had the same band listings (as above) that works with 850 3G bands. Since Telstra uses the same 850 3G band that at&t uses, the Telstra HD can access at&t's 3G network. i'm speaking from fact because i have both the UK and Telstra HD versions.
HTC is known for relasing the same device with radio limitations: they did it with the Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch HD and they're doing it for the Diamond 2. if you want US 3G access - via at&t - on the Diamond 2 you'll have to wait until HTC releases the US 3G version.

cortez.i said:
having those band settings does not mean it will work on US 3G networks. for example, the UK Touch HD (from the UK) has the same band listings as above but the radio doesn't support at&t's 3G bands (850/1900). it will work for voice and EDGE internet speeds without issue. it's a hardare limitation. 3 months after releasing the UK HD, HTC released a Telstra (Australia) version of the Touch HD that had the same band listings (as above) that works with 850 3G bands. Since Telstra uses the same 850 3G band that at&t uses, the Telstra HD can access at&t's 3G network. i'm speaking from fact because i have both the UK and Telstra HD versions.
HTC is known for relasing the same device with radio limitations: they did it with the Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch HD and they're doing it for the Diamond 2. if you want US 3G access - via at&t - on the Diamond 2 you'll have to wait until HTC releases the US 3G version.
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This clarifies. Thanks friend. Do you aware of any news on when HTC might release the D2 for US?

verified today.... does not work on at&t. the guys at the store said that it is 1900/900 band not 850. 850od the 2g frequency. havnt checked on how correct they are on this but a quick google search will verify the frequencies.

A reply from HTC
See the reply from them below. HTC did not mention about any carrier like ATT or T-Mobile asked for this phone.. looks like this phone will never make it to US? That is a Bad news......
From: Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:54 AM
To: Natarajan, Sundaram
Subject: Re: HTC Diamond 2 <<#15569-73859#>>
Hello Sundaram,
Thank you for your inquiry about the Touch Diamond 2.
We appreciate your inquiry about one of our new phones. Unfortunately, we do not remake our phones to work on a specific network, such as the AT&T 1900 band width, unless that carrier request us to make them that exact phone. If you do buy the Touch Diamond 2, we cannot guarantee 3G service since AT&T 3G band is 1900 while the Touch Diamond 2's 3G band is 2100.
I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.
Thanks for contacting HTC,
HTC Technical Support
http://www.htc.com
http://www.htcwiki.com
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From: "Natarajan, Sundaram"
Received: 5/5/09 11:17:17 PM EDT
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: HTC Diamond2
Dear Sir/Madam,
I own a HTC TyTn II and HTC Fuze (ATT) and now planning to upgrade my smart phone to HTC Diamond 2. I am really impressed with this phone and ready to purchase one. I live in USA and have a question about the 3G band availability of HTC Diamond 2. The phone is available in many online stores but they all have a specification like below.
Operating Frequency:
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Does this mean that I cannot use this phone for ATT 3G networks in USA? Does HTC manufacture HTC Diamond 2 for US 3G band which I believe are 850/1900 MHz?
Is there any planned date of releasing HTC Diamond2 for ATT 3G networks? I appreciate your response.
Thanks

The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.

MAK11 said:
The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
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What makes you to visit this topic and through a comment like this? I was not asking "you" this.
Besides, I am not working at ATT or HTC but trying to see if any other member of this forum has any news about this. If you dont like this topic just dont visit it and try to change your attitude. Otherwise you will become a great looser (i guess you already are).

MAK11 said:
The Diamond 2 IS COMING TO THE US WITH 3G SUPPORT in a few months. Stop this nonsense please.
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Clearly that is a pretty general statement that I believe most of us find to be true. That being said, do you have any more insight?

If it's coming to the US with 3G I would just assume that it would hit Sprint first so still no luck for AT&T. Didn't ATT just get the FUZE in like Dec? Anyways the phone most likely to hit US carriers is The Pro2. Americans generaly (IMO) like a full Hard qwerty keyboard.

This was floating around a few months ago
http://www.wmexperts.com/htcs-entire-2009-lineup-leaked
Shows the topaz going to AT&T. I'm not sure how valid it is though, but it's something to cling to

Even if it does come to AT&T, I hope we see the unlocked version well before. HTC used to be the one company we could count on to deliver US 3G on newer releases. Now we seem to be stuck playing the waiting game. The odd thing is they released the TYTN and such when the 3G network was barely rolled out, now that it at least covers all major cities, we cannot get any love.

I have been waiting a long time for this
Word is "HTC Topaz 210" (AT&T warhawk) will be released next month /(october) with the 850mHz UMTS "7201" chip (instead of the "7200" 900/2100 UMTS chip)
It will also be slightly smaller (1 mm less longer and wider)
I may drop around here if HTC beats the drum with this one
PS: sorry for resurrecting an ole thread, but we american users really miss good HTC 850mHz phones

I too am waiting for the US version of D2. gtrab, where did yo uget the info that US D2 will be slightly smaller. The latest info was from BG but I don't remember him mentioning any other spec except the obvious 850/1900 implementation.

USA AT&T Galaxy Tab questions answered here

I created this thread because there seems to be some confusion as to the differences between the T-Mobile, Euro, and (soon to arrive) AT&T branded versions of the Galaxy Tab. I'm sure at some point enough information will exist for a proper XDA wiki entry, but for now, we need a thread for each variant with specs, and where possible, hack/flash options, including phone and data connections.
So this will be the US AT&T thread, where we can get the facts straight for those who wish to use AT&T as their carrier with a Galaxy Tab.
THIS THREAD IS FOR US AT&T GSM ONLY, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CDMA (SPRINT, VERIZON, ETC) SHOULD BE IN ANOTHER THREAD!
Other carrier-specific threads:
US Tmobile Galaxy Tab flashed to make phone calls (currently phone works only, no 3G data)
(I would suggest to moderators that other non-AT&T and CDMA-related posts be removed or moved to a more appropriate thread.)
Alright, for starters, let me post the US AT&T frequency information, so that n00bs can be up to speed.
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA 3G
This should be helpful when we discuss the Galaxy Tab specs. I will be re-editing this post as new information comes in.
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Actually, the SGH-I987 version that AT&T is getting has already launched. In Canada. On two carriers.
The Bell version has two model numbers on the back, the GT-P1000M (firmware is different, and presumably less crippled than what AT&T will release, hello sideloading), and the FCC model number of SGH-I987 on the back cover, so the internals are identical to the AT&T unit.
And you missed a few bands, any Galaxy Tab with a SIM card will work on 2100 UMTS as well as 900 and 2100 GSM/GPRS/EDGE.

AT&T should be releasing their branded version of the Galaxy Tab on the 21st (just a few days from this posting). If I understand right (this is where the value of this thread will come into play), the specs for the T-Mobile version are different in terms of the 3G radio frequencies.
IF this is true, then it would mean that if you plan to use AT&T as your US carrier:
You must run an AT&T branded Galaxy Tab
You must run a Euro-spec Galaxy Tab*
*specific procedure for this to work is unverified at this time
Price
At this time, the price for an AT&T branded Galaxy Tab will be $650 from AT&T. It will have two pay as you go plans--$14.99 for 30 days and up to 250MB of storage or $25 for 30 days of up to 2GB. This is similar to how they currently handle the iPad plans.
HOWEVER, as many people here on XDA-devs know, it has always been possible to take a GSM SIM and move from phone to phone, and provided that the frequencies are compatible, the services should carry over and the device change remains largely in the control of the owner. Of course, they can detect the IMEI at the carrier, but in most cases they are not blocking IMEI's. If your device has the right radios and frequencies, it should work. In the past, this has been the case with most devices.
So the question is: Does the Euro-spec Galaxy Tab have the same frequencies as the AT&T branded Galaxy Tab? It should, considering that the specs for the Euro version seem to reflect the same frequencies that AT&T uses.
In theory, getting the software right on the Euro-spec Galaxy Tab should be a matter of flashing a working cooked ROM to enable phone and 3G connectivity.
As of the time of this post, one or two people have managed to get a Galaxy Tab phone service working with AT&T, although I am unsure about 3G.
Again, the purpose of this thread is to clear up these questions, and keep it focused on getting a fully-functional Galaxy Tab on the AT&T carrier. Meaning both phone and 3G working as normal with any other device.

I can confirm that the European Tab works fine on at&t with full 3G and Voice dialing.
It is model GT-P1000
FCC ID: A3LGTP1000
I have been using it for the past few weeks and it seems to support all the required frequencies. It has operated in every mode including (G)PRS, (E)DGE, (3G) and (H)SPA

Stupid question then. Doesn't Canadian Rogers use the same frequencies as AT&T?
They sell Galaxy Tab too right? Does their Galaxy Tab have voice call capability?
I am interested in buying Galaxy Tab that could do 3G on AT&T and can make voice calls so I could use it as my phone ;-)

Technomancer said:
Stupid question then. Doesn't Canadian Rogers use the same frequencies as AT&T?
They sell Galaxy Tab too right? Does their Galaxy Tab have voice call capability?
I am interested in buying Galaxy Tab that could do 3G on AT&T and can make voice calls so I could use it as my phone ;-)
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No voice calling on any of the North American Tabs. The Rogers and Bell units are the same units AT&T will be getting next week.

Can someone post att apn settings

feisley said:
I can confirm that the European Tab works fine on at&t with full 3G and Voice dialing.
It is model GT-P1000
FCC ID: A3LGTP1000
I have been using it for the past few weeks and it seems to support all the required frequencies. It has operated in every mode including (G)PRS, (E)DGE, (3G) and (H)SPA
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However, keep in mond, the EUR does NOT support the 850 3G band, only 1900.

Croak said:
Actually, the SGH-I987 version that AT&T is getting has already launched. In Canada. On two carriers.
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Not to be mistaken with SGH-I897, which is an Eclair (Android 2.1) -based device as far as I can tell:
http://opensource.samsung.com/ ("mobile" section)

shollywood said:
However, keep in mond, the EUR does NOT support the 850 3G band, only 1900.
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feisley said:
I can confirm that the European Tab works fine on at&t with full 3G and Voice dialing.
It is model GT-P1000
FCC ID: A3LGTP1000
I have been using it for the past few weeks and it seems to support all the required frequencies. It has operated in every mode including (G)PRS, (E)DGE, (3G) and (H)SPA
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Interesting news... I bought an unlocked device in Kuwait City and it matches that FCC id number, but it had some Arabic apps loaded onto it, does this mean the euro and middle east versions are the same?
Also, how much of AT&T's network is is 850?? I didnt think the 3G would work back in the states... btw, my home is in the DC area is that helps.. Thanks!

the FCC says the GT-P1000 models support 850 3G
shollywood said:
However, keep in mond, the EUR does NOT support the 850 3G band, only 1900.
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The FCC docs actually say that the GT-P1000L, N, T models do support 850GSM and 850WCDMA(3G):
Type the device's FCC ID info in, (A3L is the manufacturer code for Samsung). Look at the documents in the 824.20 (GSM "850") and 826.40 (WCDMA "850") lower frequency ranges.
The actual test report docs list GT-P1000L and GT-P1000N and a clarification doc from Samsung says the GT-P1000T model is just a renamed L one.

This is great, it's exactly why I wanted to start this thread. SO, one person at least has a Euro-spec (GT-P1000) machine wortking with voice and 3G data on a US AT&T network.
Someone needs to post specs on the GT-P1000. Because right now, it would seem that the P1000 is the best bet for those who want to use FULL functionality on a US AT&T network.
My personal motivation for this thread is to get solid information on what model Galaxy Tab will have full US AT&T functionality (voice and good 3G data connect), and HOW to achieve that (choosing the right Galaxy Tab and flashing the right ROM). Once this is nailed down, I'll buy one. I just need to know which to buy and what to do to it.

Suleeto said:
This is great, it's exactly why I wanted to start this thread. SO, one person at least has a Euro-spec (GT-P1000) machine wortking with voice and 3G data on a US AT&T network.
Someone needs to post specs on the GT-P1000. Because right now, it would seem that the P1000 is the best bet for those who want to use FULL functionality on a US AT&T network.
My personal motivation for this thread is to get solid information on what model Galaxy Tab will have full US AT&T functionality (voice and good 3G data connect), and HOW to achieve that (choosing the right Galaxy Tab and flashing the right ROM). Once this is nailed down, I'll buy one. I just need to know which to buy and what to do to it.
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Not FULLY working on at&t's 3g network. The 850 band for 3g is still missing and 850 is their primary 3g band and it's slowly replacing the 1900 3g band. The reason they changed was because the 850 3g band can cut thru walls better and give you a better 3g signal. I remember when my area had only 1900. My 3g sucked. Very spotty unless I was outside. I instantly noticed when the 850 upgrade took place. Solid 3g even in the darkest areas of my basement @ work. There will be an unlocked 850/1900 3g band version on the tab but it looks like it was pushed off until early 2011. Probably because they knew they would never sell any of the current north american models with the 850/1900 3g bands (bell, rogers & at&t) For what it's worth, you can pre-order that version here:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929

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Not FULLY working on at&t's 3g network. The 850 band for 3g is still missing and 850 is their primary 3g band and it's slowly replacing the 1900 3g band. The reason they changed was because the 850 3g band can cut thru walls better and give you a better 3g signal. I remember when my area had only 1900. My 3g sucked. Very spotty unless I was outside. I instantly noticed when the 850 upgrade took place. Solid 3g even in the darkest areas of my basement @ work. There will be an unlocked 850/1900 3g band version on the tab but it looks like it was pushed off until early 2011. Probably because they knew they would never sell any of the current north american models with the 850/1900 3g bands (bell, rogers & at&t) For what it's worth, you can pre-order that version here:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
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Who said at&t's primary 3G is 850Mhz?
That is just false information.
Their primary is actually 1900Mhz and they are beefing it up with new 850Mhz towers, not instead of current 1900Mhz existing in infrastructure.
Places who only recently got 3G service might be on 850Mhz but all those who got 3G up until 2 years ago are all 1900Mhz with the addition of 850Mhz.

clubtech said:
Who said at&t's primary 3G is 850Mhz?
That is just false information.
Their primary is actually 1900Mhz and they are beefing it up with new 850Mhz towers, not instead of current 1900Mhz existing in infrastructure.
Places who only recently got 3G service might be on 850Mhz but all those who got 3G up until 2 years ago are all 1900Mhz with the addition of 850Mhz.
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I need to find the artical that says they are slowly changing over the entire 3g network to the 850 band. Stay tuned.
UPDATED: Read on
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/24/att-3g-network-going-850mhz-nationwide-by-2010/

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I need to find the artical that says they are slowly changing over the entire 3g network to the 850 band. Stay tuned.
UPDATED: Read on
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/24/att-3g-network-going-850mhz-nationwide-by-2010/
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Yea this article and all the others stating the same are copying the same wrong source.
At&t never said they will be replacing 1900mhz with 850mhz...they said they will be ADDING towers and expending their network on 850mhz.
Here in the sf bay area the netwrok is mainly 1900mhz but they are ADDING new 850mhz towers so now we get mixed frequencies in places where signal was bad. They are certainly not removing 1900mhz towers.
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This thread encapsulates my concerns exactly. I want to use my tab as a phone, and am on ATT, so will wait to see how to best implement this agenda before purchasing anything. I have a couple of concerns:
1) I think that the Galaxy Tab forum should be split amongst various carriers, since future roms and such will likely be device specific.
2) Now that more information is coming out with regards to the Nexus s and Galaxy 2, I am wondering whether I should hold out. I do want a large screen, but the development community/google support for the next Nexus phone is hard to pass up... maybe I will buy both!

Regarding splitting up the forums, I don't think that's a good idea. We tried it for the Galaxy S models and it is something of a clusterfuck, and not as much knowledge is being shared IMHO.
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[Q] Samsung Galaxy Note I9228 4G

Hi all,
I have an unclocked Samsung Galaxy Note I9228 from China Mobile. I was hoping to use it on At&t's 4g network but am currently only getting the edge network. I have read news articles talking about the radio chipset:
"Spreadtrum's SC8803G enables TD-SCDMA, EDGE, GPRS and GSM operation and supports TD-HSDPA at 2.8Mbps and TD-HSUPA at 2.2Mbps." - Streetinsider.com
Does anyone know if I can receive At&t's 4G network? If so, what are the steps to configure the device? Thanks in advance!

That's a TERRIBLE 3G data rate...!

If the 3G speeds are not that great, does this mean that the I9228 cannot support 4g?

ohnanoko said:
Hi all,
I have an unclocked Samsung Galaxy Note I9228 from China Mobile. I was hoping to use it on At&t's 4g network but am currently only getting the edge network. I have read news articles talking about the radio chipset:
"Spreadtrum's SC8803G enables TD-SCDMA, EDGE, GPRS and GSM operation and supports TD-HSDPA at 2.8Mbps and TD-HSUPA at 2.2Mbps." - Streetinsider.com
Does anyone know if I can receive At&t's 4G network? If so, what are the steps to configure the device? Thanks in advance!
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The "TD" refers to Time Division multiplexing as opposed to the Code Division multiplexing used by UMTS/HSPA standards in other parts of the world, including AT&T. Specifically, TD-SCDMA and TD-HSDPA, are both proprietary technologies developed exclusively by and for China. There is nothing that you can configure on your device to make it compatible with AT&T's 3G/4G network; it simply lacks the required compatible hardware. Buy an N7000. That's your solution. Sorry.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
The "TD" refers to Time Division multiplexing as opposed to the Code Division multiplexing used by UMTS/HSPA standards in other parts of the world, including AT&T. Specifically, TD-SCDMA and TD-HSDPA, are both proprietary technologies developed exclusively by and for China. There is nothing that you can configure on your device to make it compatible with AT&T's 3G/4G network; it simply lacks the required compatible hardware. Buy an N7000. That's your solution. Sorry.
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No worries. Thank you so much for a quick answer! I appreciate the complete picture/ background/ history as well. You saved me a lot of time researching the problem and visiting the AT&T store.
Will the N7000 support AT&T's 4G network?

ohnanoko said:
No worries. Thank you so much for a quick answer! I appreciate the complete picture/ background/ history as well. You saved me a lot of time researching the problem and visiting the AT&T store.
Will the N7000 support AT&T's 4G network?
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It's important to know exactly what you talking about when getting caught up in marketing catches phrases like 3G and 4G etc.
AT&T's high speed network uses two different technologies, HSPA and LTE. HSPA is more of an evolution of UMTS, kinda like how EDGE is an evolution of GPRS. LTE, on the other hand, is a completely new technology from ground up. As it stands, LTE is easily about 5 to 10 times faster than HSPA on average, with speeds in the 30 to 60mbit range.
AT&T markets both technologies as "4G," even though only LTE is considered a "true" 4G technology.
The unlocked N7000 does not have LTE capabilities, but it does support AT&T's HSPA, which realistically should yield download speeds around about 3 to 9mbit. Is it fast as LTE? No, not by a long shot. Is it "fast enough?" For most people, yes, but that's up to you.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
The "TD" refers to Time Division multiplexing as opposed to the Code Division multiplexing used by UMTS/HSPA standards in other parts of the world, including AT&T. Specifically, TD-SCDMA and TD-HSDPA, are both proprietary technologies developed exclusively by and for China. There is nothing that you can configure on your device to make it compatible with AT&T's 3G/4G network; it simply lacks the required compatible hardware. Buy an N7000. That's your solution. Sorry.
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Close. The TD refers to Time Division Duplexing, i.e. the same RF carrier is used for both uplink and downlink transmissions.
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
It's important to know exactly what you talking about when getting caught up in marketing catches phrases like 3G and 4G etc.
AT&T's high speed network uses two different technologies, HSPA and LTE. HSPA is more of an evolution of UMTS, kinda like how EDGE is an evolution of GPRS. LTE, on the other hand, is a completely new technology from ground up. As it stands, LTE is easily about 5 to 10 times faster than HSPA on average, with speeds in the 30 to 60mbit range.
AT&T markets both technologies as "4G," even though only LTE is considered a "true" 4G technology.
The unlocked N7000 does not have LTE capabilities, but it does support AT&T's HSPA, which realistically should yield download speeds around about 3 to 9mbit. Is it fast as LTE? No, not by a long shot. Is it "fast enough?" For most people, yes, but that's up to you.
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Awesome! Great response! I would thank you again if I could.
I'll check out the speeds at my local AT&T store. Thanks for the feedback! I'll be researching the pros and cons of the N7000 and the i717.

As a T-Mobile user...

So as far as my research goes there are 2 options for the GS3 on t-mobile.
One is buy the international version and wait for t-mobile to upgrade their network which they say will be out by the "end of the year."
The second is pick up a gs3 from WIND Mobile, Mobilicity or Videotron (Canadian carriers that use the same frequencies as T-Mobile).
Is the second option even viable or should I just get the international version? To put things in perspective of why I want to upgrade now, my g2x was stolen a few months ago and I've been suffering with my 8900 Blackberry....a phone with 2G speeds and the processing power of a rock and I just cannot take this any more.

One question is the chip the North American version will get, which is probably the S4 Krait, it has very good performance and probably more battery efficient. Sound quality should be excellent like the HTC One S. Not to mention LTE support too, which T-Mobile is unveiling next year.
With that said, I always go for the international version, its released first for one and generally has more developers. I buy my phones at full price and int' version generally has better resale values. I don't think you have a lot of choice if you are in contract.
I can tolerate the 2G until 1900mhz band works with T-Mobile, I only need data for Google Maps, I get on WiFi otherwise.

Funny. I broke my N1 and am stuck with a BB curve 3600. It's been a month or so now....and I believe I've been punished long enough!

I wouldn't be able to tolerate the 2G speeds. So I will be getting it through mobile when they release release it. Having carrier warranty is a big plus for me too.
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well I'm sure there will be canadians that would be willing to sell their phones out of contract, full price. I wouldn't be locked into a contract either way.

i wouldn't mind helping out our fellow breathens from the south
i know i'll be picking it up for sure when it becomes available in store.
just keep in mind there's a 13% tax here + FedEx shipping fees which varies for northern states is aprox $20, southern states is about $26

AllGamer said:
i wouldn't mind helping out our fellow breathens from the south
i know i'll be picking it up for sure when it becomes available in store.
just keep in mind there's a 13% tax here + FedEx shipping fees which varies for northern states is aprox $20, southern states is about $26
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whats 40 bucks when you have the top phone working on your network ahead of everyone else right?

i would think it would be the international version that WIND Mobile, Mobilicity or Videotron would be getting, sense they dont have LTE.

tkeyes said:
i would think it would be the international version that WIND Mobile, Mobilicity or Videotron would be getting, sense they dont have LTE.
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did you check the radio bands included in the international model?

yes, they dont work with t-mo till the end of end of the year. no one wants 2G service.

International/Unlocked S3 on T-Mobile or AT&T (USA)
tkeyes said:
yes, they dont work with t-mo till the end of end of the year. no one wants 2G service.
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Why won't they work?
I read the International Version can run on either T-Mobile (USA) or AT&T network, since the International Version of the S3 uses the same spectrum. It won't be possible to use LTE, but HSPA+ is possible... so I read.
Don't know if you specifically meant the Canadian version, because the International SG3 uses "850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 mhz", for use with "3g (hspa＋ 21mbps)" (= T-Mobile).
Can you provide a few more details on why it's not supposed to work, as you say ??
Thanks!

androidarmin said:
Why won't they work?
I read the International Version can run on either T-Mobile (USA) or AT&T network, since the International Version of the S3 uses the same spectrum. It won't be possible to use LTE, but HSPA+ is possible... so I read.
Don't know if you specifically meant the Canadian version, because the International SG3 uses "850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 mhz", for use with "3g (hspa＋ 21mbps)" (= T-Mobile).
Can you provide a few more details on why it's not supposed to work, as you say ??
Thanks!
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Cause it doesn't list 1700mhz, which tmobile needs for the down link.
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The 1700 mhz band is not necessarily needed. I just checked some other sources, and they say it's only needed for LTE - which T-Mobile won't have until some time in 2013 anyway. HSPA+ is good enough for speedy downloads on the 1900 mhz band.
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Just found this one on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA
[T-Mobile] Radio frequency spectrum chart
The following chart describes radio frequency spectrum bands accessible by the company's customers using compatible devices.
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1700+2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 4G (formerly 3G)
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 4G
This means, the International SG3 will be fine in the U.S. using T-Mobile's speedy HSPA+ network... and that's all I need.

..???..
Well... this is confusing: T-Mobile's website (for SIM-only plans) actually states..
Important note about 3G phones:
If you own a 3G phone but it does not support the 1700-MHz band, it will operate at 2G (EDGE) speeds on our network.
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Looks like you guys were right... This sucks!!!

you need 1700 Mhz for AWS 3G/4G support
LTE is not even in the picture

I believe t mobile has had a SGSIII go through the FCC in the last week. I believe they will be getting their own model.
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planoman said:
I believe t mobile has had a SGSIII go through the FCC in the last week. I believe they will be getting their own model.
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I believe that is correct, by the end of next month tmo should be selling it. I have a feeling that it's going to be the same as the international version.
Sent from T-Mobile's galaxy S II running ICS

Has anyone read this article about the relase date. My contract is up this week but im waiting untill its released. Seems like the speeds will be 4g but no quad-core processor
Plus I heard the Samsung Galaxy Note is going to be released on TMo too!!
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s3-note-in-t-mobile-document/

moshe22 said:
I wouldn't be able to tolerate the 2G speeds. So I will be getting it through mobile when they release release it. Having carrier warranty is a big plus for me too.
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Exactly true for me. On verizon tho.

I can deal with edge speeds as WiFi is everywhere, plus T-Mo is refarming their spectrum - the Int'l Version should be compatible with 4G by Q4

[Q] Nexus 4 in Mexico... will it work with this particular network?

Hello... long time lurker and finally a member of this forum.
Well, I need your help, guys. I have tried in some forums in Spanish but they are clueless. Nexus 4 is not very popular here in Mexico. Here is iPhone land, mostly.
So, let me start:
There are four big carriers here in my country: Telcel, Movistar, Iusacell and Nextel. The first 3 are using LTE 4G and Nextel was stuck with iDEN for a long time. Currenly I have a Nextel, because I live in the border (my house is literally 10 minutes away from the international bridge, so I go to USA about 3 times per week) and I have relatives and friends in the USA, and we use iDEN because it allows free international Push-To-Talk. Well... but it is about to end soon (finally... we can't stand iDEN anymore, but a lot of people here are stuck with the service because we need it). So... starting July, iDEN service will no longer be available in the USA. So, a lot of people are starting to get a real smartphone with 4G and stuff.
Well... Nextel just deployed their new network: Nextel Evolution HSPA+. It is the only HSPA+ network in the country. The others are using LTE. And as an introductory price, Nextel is offering an excellent data plan: 3GB of HSPA+ (unlimited, they slow your connection if you exceed your bandwidth) for just the equivalent of $13 dollars with a 2 year contract. Regular price is close to $32. But it will only last until March 31, 2013. But they will not give any phone with that plan... they will give one of those USB adapters to use the HSPA+ on the computer. But there is a catch: obviously I can't make any calls, but I can receive if I get a phone from them.
One question: I suppose I can just open the device and extract the SIM, right?
But I don't want any of their crappy phones. I want a Nexus 4. But I need to know some things first:
They only have normal SIM cards... I guess this is not a problem, right? I can just cut it and use it as a micro-SIM.
Apparently, the network is only HSPA+ 21... will the SIM work with the unlocked Nexus 4, even if it is a HSPA+ 42 phone?
These are the specs of the Nexus 4:
Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 42
But I don't know the bands of Nextel Evolution... but I know Nextel Evolution offers this device:
HUAWEI E586 (could you guys please Google it... I can't post links).
So, by looking an the specs of the Huawei device:
Will the data plan work with the Nexus 4.
I hope you guys can help me. Thanks.
FernandoRocker

These are the specs I found for the HUAWEI E586:
Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/n
HSPA+/HSPA/UMTS (3G) EDGE/GPRS/GSM(2G)
HSPA+ data service up to 21.6 Mbps
HSUPA data service up to 5.76 Mbps
Equalizer and receive diversity
microSD Card Slot(Up to 32GB)
Data and SMS Service
This is a device supported by the carrier I want to use.
Is that helpful to know if the Nexus 4 would be compatible? Do you need anything else?

The Nexus 4 will work on EVERY non-LTE GSM network in the world.
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joshnichols189 said:
The Nexus 4 will work on EVERY non-LTE GSM network in the world.
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Oh... cool beans! Thanks!