Google Camera on 2GB potter? - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

I have been spending some time installing different ROMs in this 2GB phone, model XT1687.
Carbon and PE both installed well, but even the PE did not come with Google Camera preinstalled, instead having the Linage "snap" camera.
I installed many custom GCam apps but they would all crash about 1/2 the time when taking a photo. Reading up on it, seems like a memory issue with the OS stopping the app. I noticed that these Android 10 ROMs would show 200-400 MB free RAM after a clean install.
So I tried LineageOS 15.1 Oreo and it had like 900MB free RAM after a clean install, camera2 API was enabled, so I installed:
MGC_6.1.021_Potter_v5F-san1ty.apk but that refused to open
MGC_6.1.021_Potter_v6-san1ty.apk - success! but still crashed occasionally, especially when taking video or trying things like Night Sight.
Am I simply out of luck with this model of phone? Has anyone gotten this phone to work with Google Camera? Should I revert to the 32 bit stock Oreo and try an old GCam port for 32 bit? Or just stick with the Snap app?
Any advice would be appreciated.

mark-os said:
I have been spending some time installing different ROMs in this 2GB phone, model XT1687.
Carbon and PE both installed well, but even the PE did not come with Google Camera preinstalled, instead having the Linage "snap" camera.
I installed many custom GCam apps but they would all crash about 1/2 the time when taking a photo. Reading up on it, seems like a memory issue with the OS stopping the app. I noticed that these Android 10 ROMs would show 200-400 MB free RAM after a clean install.
So I tried LineageOS 15.1 Oreo and it had like 900MB free RAM after a clean install, camera2 API was enabled, so I installed:
MGC_6.1.021_Potter_v5F-san1ty.apk but that refused to open
MGC_6.1.021_Potter_v6-san1ty.apk - success! but still crashed occasionally, especially when taking video or trying things like Night Sight.
Am I simply out of luck with this model of phone? Has anyone gotten this phone to work with Google Camera? Should I revert to the 32 bit stock Oreo and try an old GCam port for 32 bit? Or just stick with the Snap app?
Any advice would be appreciated.
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I suggest you to use DMGC, parrot, trcamera as there are working in android 10 without any problem.
You can download from here
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/

the camera 2 api can only install by recovery Sky Hawk using tab tweaks

mark-os said:
I have been spending some time installing different ROMs in this 2GB phone, model XT1687.
Carbon and PE both installed well, but even the PE did not come with Google Camera preinstalled, instead having the Linage "snap" camera.
I installed many custom GCam apps but they would all crash about 1/2 the time when taking a photo. Reading up on it, seems like a memory issue with the OS stopping the app. I noticed that these Android 10 ROMs would show 200-400 MB free RAM after a clean install.
So I tried LineageOS 15.1 Oreo and it had like 900MB free RAM after a clean install, camera2 API was enabled, so I installed:
MGC_6.1.021_Potter_v5F-san1ty.apk but that refused to open
MGC_6.1.021_Potter_v6-san1ty.apk - success! but still crashed occasionally, especially when taking video or trying things like Night Sight.
Am I simply out of luck with this model of phone? Has anyone gotten this phone to work with Google Camera? Should I revert to the 32 bit stock Oreo and try an old GCam port for 32 bit? Or just stick with the Snap app?
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Hi, you can join Moto G5Plus Camera Dump Telegram Channel
and look for CameraGO_HDR-2.apk
it's a lite version for 2GB variant but HDR works fine.
or you can try this for more features
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog509/
good luck :good:

I ended up sticking with Dirty Unicorns Android 10, and downloading the Open Camera app. The Camera Go HDR 2 app did work too! So thanks for that.
Pretty satisfied with DU otherwise, almost no apps installed by default, BYO camera, calendar, email, etc.

mark-os said:
I ended up sticking with Dirty Unicorns Android 10, and downloading the Open Camera app. The Camera Go HDR 2 app did work too! So thanks for that.
Pretty satisfied with DU otherwise, almost no apps installed by default, BYO camera, calendar, email, etc.
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using the IMMENSITY-KERNEL you get more performance and battery

mark-os said:
I ended up sticking with Dirty Unicorns Android 10, and downloading the Open Camera app. The Camera Go HDR 2 app did work too! So thanks for that.
Pretty satisfied with DU otherwise, almost no apps installed by default, BYO camera, calendar, email, etc.
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Hello Mark!
I also have a 2Gb RAM Potter (XT1681), and looking to squeeze some more performance out of it. Still on stock, never had the courage to dive into custom yet. Would you say you get better, worse or equal performance with DU vs Stock on your 2gb device?
And can you think of any issues whatsoever? (Wifi, Camera, Bluetooth, etc)?
Thank you very much for any input on this matter!

Spektater said:
Hello Mark!
I also have a 2Gb RAM Potter (XT1681), and looking to squeeze some more performance out of it. Still on stock, never had the courage to dive into custom yet. Would you say you get better, worse or equal performance with DU vs Stock on your 2gb device?
And can you think of any issues whatsoever? (Wifi, Camera, Bluetooth, etc)?
Thank you very much for any input on this matter!
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Not recommended. DU is great in terms of being bloat free, but Android 10 seems to have too much memory usage and applications just get terminated randomly including the aforementioned camera.
I have not yet tried the recommended kernel above, I will try it shortly and report back.

mark-os said:
Not recommended. DU is great in terms of being bloat free, but Android 10 seems to have too much memory usage and applications just get terminated randomly including the aforementioned camera.
I have not yet tried the recommended kernel above, I will try it shortly and report back.
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I see... Will have to stick to Android 9 then. Please let me know what you end up sticking with on your 2GB RAM device. Thank you very much!

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Which Custom ROM are you using and why?

Hi All,
Since acquiring MXP back in Oct 2015, I have stayed away from rooting and flashing custom ROM (something which I did from day one on my Samsung Google Nexus) because I was more or less happy with the out of the box behavior.
But now MXP on Marshmellow has become kind of slow and ofcourse Nougat roadmap is still not clear (whether it will at all come in May).
So now I want to join the wagon.
So it would be immensely helpful if you can mention which custom ROM you are using as daily driver and why sticking to it?
My criteria is primarily smooth performance and decent battery (now it doesnt last 12 hours on full charge).
Thanks in advance
Roy
I tried almost every Nougat rom (Tesla, CM, RR, AOSiP, AOSP Extended) and finally been using AOSP Extended. I feel this is the most stable and smooth one out there. I use Greenify & GlassFish script and easily get over 30-40 hours on a single charge. I don't play any games on my phone, just some web browsing, music, whatsapp etc. It has almost all the customization available too.
Just like you I was sticking to stock
Now after the N delay, tested a few custom roms. From my experience, also in gaming, Aosip with Optimus Kernel and GlassfishCP-Optimus script have the best performance, does not overheat and has near stock battery life.
Instead of Greenify (that's behaving weird and sometimes causing wakelocks) I'd recommend Servicely.
Still not tested but also CypherOS should be worth a test run. It seems like the most stable and lighter rom on paper!
all nougat roms have camera bug,,d camera focus is not so good
using RR M v5.7.4 + coffee kernel v2.2 + xposed +SuperSU v2.79 +SonyMusicSSE ViPER 2505 DolbyAtmos Sony Beats +Busybox 1.26.2 +MusicFX Installer and AudioFX Remover +Moto g4 Camera v6.0.20.6.
rohitpaul9000 said:
all nougat roms have camera bug,,d camera focus is not so good
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You can install Moto cameras!
dev>null said:
You can install Moto cameras!
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tried all camera apps no luck. . u cn check yourself also
rohitpaul9000 said:
tried all camera apps no luck. . u cn check yourself also
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For me the camera focus works great on aosp extended.
Sent from my Moto X Play using Tapatalk
shrey. said:
I tried almost every Nougat rom (Tesla, CM, RR, AOSiP, AOSP Extended) and finally been using AOSP Extended. I feel this is the most stable and smooth one out there. I use Greenify & GlassFish script and easily get over 30-40 hours on a single charge. I don't play any games on my phone, just some web browsing, music, whatsapp etc. It has almost all the customization available too.
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mogamycool said:
using RR M v5.7.4 + coffee kernel v2.2 + xposed +SuperSU v2.79 +SonyMusicSSE ViPER 2505 DolbyAtmos Sony Beats +Busybox 1.26.2 +MusicFX Installer and AudioFX Remover +Moto g4 Camera v6.0.20.6.
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dev>null said:
Just like you I was sticking to stock
Now after the N delay, tested a few custom roms. From my experience, also in gaming, Aosip with Optimus Kernel and GlassfishCP-Optimus script have the best performance, does not overheat and has near stock battery life.
Instead of Greenify (that's behaving weird and sometimes causing wakelocks) I'd recommend Servicely.
Still not tested but also CypherOS should be worth a test run. It seems like the most stable and lighter rom on paper!
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K.khiladi said:
For me the camera focus works great on aosp extended.
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Thanks all for your replies - sorry for replying late here.
I have seen Moto G4 Plus camera and I am not too happy with its focus.
Is the same camera app used in Nougat roms as well?
I hope and guess the MXP moto camera app would still work - right?
Thanks again!
i am going to change my stock rom, which custom rom should i choose?
Hello all,
I have been using this ROM with Optimis r20 kernel and latest GlassfishCP script since last 4 days.
This is my first custom ROM in MXP, so I must congratulate the devs who have made this usable as daily driver.
Mostly has been running fine with two odd reboots from Recent screen.
-------------------------------------------- Problem below is fixed ------------------------------
One odd observation-FB is unable to get updates, even within app when in mobile data mode. Works perfectly fine with Wifi. Otherwise mobile data works fine and other social apps work fine in mobile data mode. Any guidance if this makes sense, would help.
--------------------------------------------------- Solution by @manddar --------------------------------
This happened to me as well on almost all ROMs, in my case mms internet access point was setup instead of one which is required for internet, www to be exact for Vodafone India.
Try to switch it and you will be good to go. Alternate method is to remove proxy from access point.
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My one of the most important criteria was battery life which has not improved till now. I would still reserve my view on that as it's been only 4 days.
Camera focussing has also been same as before in stock MXP using stock Moto camera app(not g4).
Cheers
Roy.
I primarily use RR as my daily driver. Mainly because it has the most features out of all roms. I like having as much customization options as possible. Battery life is pretty good for me, and the rom is stable and performs quite well.
My second choice would be either AOSP Extended or AOSIP. Both have a lot features as well, and they're very smooth and have excellent battery life.
I don't use any mods or custom kernels.
rohitpaul9000 said:
all nougat roms have camera bug,,d camera focus is not so good
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I don't see such an issue. Maybe you have some hardware issue or a scratched lens. What ROMs did you try?
Any one facing issue with quick charge? It stopped working on my phone
AOSCP because:
-Pixel style;
-Same battery life as stock;
-No bugs whatsoever
I'm on aokp rom since early January and it has been my daily driver ever since. No sudden reboot, no app crashes, everything works fine, bluetooth, gps, moto camera, google camera (I use it only for lens blur effect). maybe someday I'll try the aoscp or the aicp roms.

Help me pick a ROM?

I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
I've been trying many roms over the last 48 hours and have come out with some first impressions that may help you. The first rom I tried was resurrection remix, a mod a user made of the official one (downloaded it by accident and thought it was official, upon reading up on it the only difference seems to me armanian translation option or something) and it was OK. I noticed a few issues but it was good but everyone was raving about pixel ex. so I gave that a go. It is less feature packed but smoother, so very noticeable. Not that the other one was bad, but if I exited pubg mobile to nova launcher it was slow af. But was fine. Pixel experience is good. Its fast, fluid and with no issues. I haven't noticed any battery issues on it, definitely better than rr tho. I then heard that frankenrom was good but the download is down. But in the thread I found my favourite edition of the gcam mod for moto g5 plus yet, a very good hdr+ mod by bsg. So with frankenrom not working out I went to firehound. It was rr but a bit slower and overdone visuals. I went to rr again (official latest release this time) and I have to my surprise it was worse than the mod. I also found that it doesn't let my gcam work on it. Then I tried dirty unicorns for its supposed stability but was unimpressed by the light tweaking but still packed feeling (rr roms are good because they feel full of stuff and they are. This had the same feeling but just not as much stuff, not worth it). I'm now back on pixel ex and have no issues. Google photos works fine and both storage options are available. Battery life seems good. But I had some issues when it came to using xposed. After you install the modules and boot back up the screen doesn't display. Maybe the system less magisk might be better. It's almost a deal breaker, I love gboard but can't stand how it doesn't autocorrect in search fields and has made the mod awayscorrect a need for me. And in a rom with very little customisation it's more necessary than ever. But other than that it's great. Also it handles my bsg gcam mod the best so far.
All in all I'd recommend either rr or pixel ex. I'm liking the light and breezy feel of pe for now but will probably be on another rom my this time tomorrow. But check out the gcam it's got the best autofocus out of all the ones I've tried which I hear is a big problem for moto g5 plus owners. It's on the franked rom thread and it's urikill.apk.
I'd you have any more questions ask away, more than happy to help.
Edit: also very potter rom has moto actions, they'd be scrutinised by everyone if they didn't. And fingerprint gestures in the vast majority of roms.
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
Unofficial Lineage 15.1 which is Android 8.1 - I've loaded loads of ROMS on other phone and this ROM is great... no issues I can think of, great battery, great performance... the install instructions were crap but if you need a hand, let me know...
I need to say i had both Nitrogen and Bootleggers at least one week and both were smoothly great. First Nitro then Boot, in that order. But Bootleggers has a few more tweak options. In the other hand, i tried Liquid Remix only one day and was incredible with a lot of tweaks and very fast and smooth ux. Id like to hear some reviews about the three i mentioned.
Dishe said:
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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rajeshkoshti said:
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
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Is it possible to have Portrait mode in the camera in the 32 bit Oreo 8.1?
kartiklohia said:
Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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Is it possible to have Portrait mode in the camera in the 32 bit Oreo 8.1?
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
rajeshkoshti said:
Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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OP?
Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go for AEX rom...its too good for daily driver and no bugs...almost perfect 64bit 8.1 oreo for Potter
rajeshkoshti said:
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
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It's an idea but I'm actually tired of dealing with trying to stay updated on modified stock. Everytime there's an OTA, it's a major hassle to update, or I could block the update notification and jump through those hoops to stay outdated which seems silly too. Also, I was holding out because I thought Oreo would be 64-bit, which has proven performance gains, not to mention I wouldn't mind one of the newer gcam builds which will never work on 32bit. Basically, I lost interest bin waiting once I found out the stock rom would never be what I wanted.
I'll also add that every device I've ever owned has run a custom rom (with the exception of a couple of obscure devices which had none available- those were dark times). I'm not uncomfortable deviating from stock, but I'm into stable and not experimental. The Moto stock was so clean however, this is the longest I've ever been on stock with a device capable of custom!
bruce7890 said:
Unofficial Lineage 15.1 which is Android 8.1 - I've loaded loads of ROMS on other phone and this ROM is great... no issues I can think of, great battery, great performance... the install instructions were crap but if you need a hand, let me know...
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Interested in this one. Loved lineage on other devices I've had. Curious why this option isn't more popular. For some reason everytime someone mentions it, conversation quickly turns to PE.
kartiklohia said:
Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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But what about the Google image uploads? Do they work, and don't they use up your gdrive storage? I'm not so ok with that.
rajeshkoshti said:
Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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Yes, but are there no roms that equate for stability battery and clean ui? Because I've had roms on other devices that improved stability battery and user experience.
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'm actually not familiar with aex for example!
also last time I checked there were some roms which didnt support dual sim.
Most users dont mind occasional hiccups but no compromise with basic functionality.
You should go ahead with Lineage, its not the most feature packed rom but then one can tailor cook with different mods according to one's taste.
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Edit: ..and yes my friend if u want to ease the process of unlock+root+backup etc. here's the link to the toolkit that will help you save time and (maybe) not brick your device with readymade codes built into the toolkit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...olkit-root-t3605203/post72255202#post72255202
Kudos to the developer.
Edit 2:
This comparison video may also help you a great deal, the owner of the video has put in a lot of effort. Do hit the button if you like the video, my friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNJMeXkVIM
I guess I am gonna go with the AEX - AospExtended, best of both the worlds.
Have fun.
Dishe said:
But what about the Google image uploads? Do they work, and don't they use up your gdrive storage? I'm not so ok with that.
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I don't use online storage. I keep my photos in local storage only. So that's not a deal breaker for me at all.
I'm right now using havoc is it is a great rom with great features but I think it is draining the battery a bit faster.
So I want a good time which is stable and the battery life is pretty good.
Any suggestions??
Fererio said:
I'm right now using havoc is it is a great rom with great features but I think it is draining the battery a bit faster.
So I want a good time which is stable and the battery life is pretty good.
Any suggestions??
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No ROM is bug free, once u enter modding/flashing world u need to be prompt in trying variety of roms so that u get tailor made experience as per your usage pattern. Try other roms and u decide for urself. Afterall all this comes with a red bold DISCLAIMER.
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rajeshkoshti said:
Edit: ..and yes my friend if u want to ease the process of unlock+root+backup etc. here's the link to the toolkit that will help you save time and (maybe) not brick your device with readymade codes built into the toolkit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...olkit-root-t3605203/post72255202#post72255202
Kudos to the developer.
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I'd stay away from that tool - I tried it last month when trying to root and most of its steps did not properly work. I ended up doing everything after unlocking bootloader manually
Actually both that tool and the video in that post weren't terribly helpful. Unlocking bootloader isn't difficult enough to need a tool and the video was a generic rom discussion, but details vary by device and he was not talking about the G5+. Im already aware of what the roms are supposed to be, but his findings on that phone might not be consistent with our own.
I do appreciate the response and trying to help, though! So it sounds like now I'm leaning towards lineage simply because I think I can get around the issues preventing me from PE, while still getting the benefits of a clean 64-bit Oreo rom.
one more thing, do we tick all the boxes while taking backup through twrp?
Have been reading lot of warnings about taking EFS and Persist backup, so whether efs and persist should be backed up separately or just tick these boxes along with entire backup?
plz suggest.
rajeshkoshti said:
one more thing, do we tick all the boxes while taking backup through twrp?
Have been reading lot of warnings about taking EFS and Persist backup, so whether efs and persist should be backed up separately or just tick these boxes along with entire backup?
plz suggest.
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If I were you, I'd backup EFS and Persist both seperately and also along with the entire backup considering how precious these two partitions are.
Another reason I'd like to give you here to make a seperate EFS and Persist backup is for cases where you just need to restore EFS and Persist partitions and not the entire ROM.
Whenever you feel like going back to stock, just restore the entire backup back.
But that's just my opinion.
Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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try Arrow rom it doesn't have many options but havr useful rom unlike other roms they are in the place where they should be not consolidated in one place.
And rom is super smooth IMO its more smooth than any other custom rom and everything works smoothly.
Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go for Havoc OS (By Akhil_dev) without a single thought. I am using is from last 1 month. It is fast and fluid. No need to use any xposed module or anything else for any customization. It has lots of customization options built in.

Stock Vs Custom Rom

I used the stock rom for my device and decided to try some custom rom for a Le 2, it really does an incredible job for the developers but we are full of different versions and all with the same Bugs, especially the camera never works well. Hopefully you could focus the work on one and get a good rom and not new projects every day that are generally good but have errors that in some moments of daily use make us want to return to something stable and work perfectly.
It is not for less to value the work, it is only a point of view.
I personally consider that the best work is on the side of Pixel Xperience but it is only my personal opinion, even though the camera does not work very well, the fingerprint reader usually fails in some apps among other things.
I use the Droid on Time Rom version 2.5 on my LeEco Le 2. I have no problem with the camera. The day time pictures are okay but nigh time is sh...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-2/development/8-1-0-dotos-o-v2-3-1-t3817118
gcortesm said:
I used the stock rom for my device and decided to try some custom rom for a Le 2, it really does an incredible job for the developers but we are full of different versions and all with the same Bugs, especially the camera never works well. Hopefully you could focus the work on one and get a good rom and not new projects every day that are generally good but have errors that in some moments of daily use make us want to return to something stable and work perfectly.
It is not for less to value the work, it is only a point of view.
I personally consider that the best work is on the side of Pixel Xperience but it is only my personal opinion, even though the camera does not work very well, the fingerprint reader usually fails in some apps among other things.
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The latest release of PixelExperience fixes a lot of the issues it had, give it another shot, you'll love it.
elchuby said:
The latest release of PixelExperience fixes a lot of the issues it had, give it another shot, you'll love it.
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Is the best custom rom. Just doing a good management of applications in the background can give you 5 to 6 hours of screen on each load. before I only had 3h. the night mode crash for moments but work fine
Camera is the deal-breaker
I have tried custom ROMS including codeworkx' lineage 14, lineage 15.1 by rk85, and pixel experience pie but in every single one the camera is damn near unusable. There are many gcam ports that sometimes work but with major issues particularly lags, crashes, inability to record video, and just frequent lack of reliability. Apps like camera fv-5, footej, and open camera are also quite bad even though they are the recommended ones because stock cameras just don't work. Performance is also not good and instability creeps in quickly when you push the phone like by playing games or benchmarking.
The only custom ROMS I can commend are miui and EUI-based ones which are all Marshmallow. Miui heating and battery drain is a serious issue and slim eui has unfixable play store issues. The only custom ROM I can recommend as a daily driver is SmallEUI v3. I hear mokee is also good but doesn't have as good battery life as SmallEUI. Custom ROMS are fine for experiencing new Android version features but I don't see any of them becoming daily driver material.
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I have tried custom ROMS including codeworkx' lineage 14, lineage 15.1 by rk85, and pixel experience pie but in every single one the camera is damn near unusable. There are many gcam ports that sometimes work but with major issues particularly lags, crashes, inability to record video, and just frequent lack of reliability. Apps like camera fv-5, footej, and open camera are also quite bad even though they are the recommended ones because stock cameras just don't work. Performance is also not good and instability creeps in quickly when you push the phone like by playing games or benchmarking.
The only custom ROMS I can commend are miui and EUI-based ones which are all Marshmallow. Miui heating and battery drain is a serious issue and slim eui has unfixable play store issues. The only custom ROM I can recommend as a daily driver is SmallEUI v3. I hear mokee is also good but doesn't have as good battery life as SmallEUI. Custom ROMS are fine for experiencing new Android version features but I don't see any of them becoming daily driver material.
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My 526 has been on MIUI pro 8.9.20 for weeks - longest staying on any rom so far. No problem with overheating or battery drain at all, have not used camera much though.
tC126868 said:
My 526 has been on MIUI pro 8.9.20 for weeks - longest staying on any rom so far. No problem with overheating or battery drain at all, have not used camera much though.
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For the few times you've used the camera, how does it compare with stock camera? Does it record 4K? Slow-mo? Image sharpness and detail? Your average SOT?
Sorry, I don't use this function long enough to compare.

new Samsung S5 mini user in 2019

Hello,
After changing tons of phones in last weeks/months, i finaly got my s5 mini, my dream phone it seems. It is of a perfect size for me and it is very grippy due to rubber back cover. Now i want to improve it as much as i can. I want to stay on stock 6.0.1 rom (unless u see there is any point in downgrading ?). I will first say what i did and then ask what i can do to improve it further.
What i did:
1. turn all animations to 0 in developers options
2. turn off s voice
3. disabled all apps i could that i dont need
4. turned off a bunch of other things i dont need
What i need help with:
1. what else can i do to further improve performance
2. google maps app seems a bit slow. Any way to improve it or is this phone simply to weak
3. any tips for camera, how to take better photos/video, any settings i should change ?
No one ?
Hello,
I personally think its kind of funny that someone says that the s5 mini is their dream phone in 2019. I mean its kind of old and outdated now and while I can of course understand that you like the size of it and the rubber back, there are many alternatives which also dont break the bank. I think without rooting or flashing another Rom, your experience is not going to get better than it already is. The s5 mini is not the most powerful phone you know. Anyways I used a galaxy s5 mini from 2014 untill 2018 and I was never really happy with it. It was always slow and sluggish, though the camera was good for 2014 and what I really liked about it was its ip67 certification, I got into the pool with it xD. I ran it on Android 4.4.2 for most of its live, mainly because I rooted it in 2015 and thus couldnt update to a newer version of Android. But in late 2017 I decided to factory reset and flash a stock Android 5 Rom via Kies. After that I updatet to 6.0.1 Marshmello, but in early 2018 the hole thing was to slow for me and I threw a custom Rom on it. Android 8 but it was in beta and very buggy so I flashed Resurection Remix with Android 7.1.2. It was already way faster and more modern than on the stock Rom. But then I found a Kernel that would let me overclock the cpu from 1.4 Ghz to 1.6 Ghz and the Gpu from 400 mhz to 600 mhz. So i used that Kernel and the phone was actually very useable. The first time in 4 years of ownwership, I was really happy with my s5 mini. I bought a new phone (Honor 9) though only like 6 weeks after flashing the Kernel lol. The Honor 9, after 1 year has never let me down tough and im very very happy with it.
S5 mini G800F
Hi there,
I'm happy with my S5 mini (G800F), but I really need an Dual SIM device with better battery life and will have to get one soon. Battery life is weak point.
I have installed LineageOS 14.1 (Android 7.1.2), didn't have success to install Gapps though. Using F-Droid and YalpStore. There are some bugs with the camera (it stops working) but after restart works fine again.
It is an OK device, but a bit slow and with short battery life.
Unfortunately from 2-3 weeks there is a problem with my main microphone and is not the mic itself but some motherboard bad connection or something. Works fine with headset but it is not really convenient
According to some people if one switches Off the LTE the battery life is better.
Instead of Gmaps I'm using HereWeGo, OruxMaps and Sygic - all for free.
About the camera: I am using Open Camera. The camera app of LOS 14.1 is really plain Of OpenCamera I like the DRO option, but it takes a few seconds to generate the picture.
Hope you will find the best way to use your S5 mini. It is very cute device with so many advantages like notification LED with RGB, ambient light sensor, NFC, IR, AMOLED, small size and weight... I will miss all of this in such a small and ergonomic package.
I understand your point. There are no more under 5" devices with normal specs. So sad...
Best regards!
Hi, i have this device now. ¿Which rom its the most stable and smooth?
Zsheoran said:
Hi, i have this device now. ¿Which rom its the most stable and smooth?
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I can't say for sure, but I quite like Viperos and AOSPExtended Oreo. Not using it actively anymore though.
Zsheoran said:
Hi, i have this device now. ¿Which rom its the most stable and smooth?
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I recommend the unofficial LineageOs 16 custom rom for you. This is the most stable rom I’ve ever seen for the S5 mini.
Only Requirement is to have the G800F model.
Otherwise you will break you phone.
Im running CrDroid 5.12 on my g800f with the Spookcity Kernel and Magisk. Although I'm using a Oneplus 5 as my main device I'm very happy with the results. You can run Android P roms like Posp, LineageOS, CrDroid, bootleggers or Aosp (extended). I think you can get very happy using POSP with Open Gapps nano/Pico. But CrDroid is the only rom, which is getting updated. It also is the only Pie rom supporting NFC.
OC Kernel 1.6
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m0cg3PQV1XGGPSbBIi1QxuhTDaulX6EL/view
CrDroid
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-crdroid-5-0-pie-t3880298
POSP
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-posp-v2-2-t3921291
Bootleggers
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397969246
Open Gapps
https://opengapps.org/
Magisk
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
This might be a pretty late reply, but I hope it can help.
If you want to stay on Marshmallow, I would really recommend rooting your device. I can't tell you exactly which, but you can deactivate a lot of system apps with root, which can improve performance in some scenarios (Look at some debloat script from other Samsung phones - a lot of the apps are the same). For deactivating system apps I use this app. Alternatively you could try to deactivate system apps without root with ADB.
In my opinion the Google apps are all very slow and all the system apps slow your device down a lot (from my experience the Google Play Services and especially the Google Play Store), which is why I either use microG on the Stock ROM or at least deactivate what I can.
Sadly you can't push much more performance out of this phone, especially not without a Custom ROM. It has four pretty weak CPUs and one really bad GPU - don't expect to be able to play any even slightly demanding games, better stay at those 2D titles. The only way to make it feel faster is to use the lightest
- OS (in my opinion any Android 6 ROM)
- system apps (disable unnecessary-seeming ones - but be very careful!) <- of course only on Stock ROM
- third-party/user apps (if an app is slow, look for alternatives - for example you could look at OSMand or MAPS.ME istead of Google Maps)
Pokemetti2 said:
This might be a pretty late reply, but I hope it can help.
If you want to stay on Marshmallow, I would really recommend rooting your device. I can't tell you exactly which, but you can deactivate a lot of system apps with root, which can improve performance in some scenarios (Look at some debloat script from other Samsung phones - a lot of the apps are the same). For deactivating system apps I use this app. Alternatively you could try to deactivate system apps without root with ADB.
In my opinion the Google apps are all very slow and all the system apps slow your device down a lot (from my experience the Google Play Services and especially the Google Play Store), which is why I either use microG on the Stock ROM or at least deactivate what I can.
Sadly you can't push much more performance out of this phone, especially not without a Custom ROM. It has four pretty weak CPUs and one really bad GPU - don't expect to be able to play any even slightly demanding games, better stay at those 2D titles. The only way to make it feel faster is to use the lightest
- OS (in my opinion any Android 6 ROM)
- system apps (disable unnecessary-seeming ones - but be very careful!) <- of course only on Stock ROM
- third-party/user apps (if an app is slow, look for alternatives - for example you could look at OSMand or MAPS.ME istead of Google Maps)
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The Google app is a mandatory update with the new Play Store layout and app updates eat into the storage of the phone.

Google Play services hogging all ram.

I am using 2gb ram version. I have hard time keeping even 2 moderately heavy apps running together. Also play services using lotsa ram. I am using arvanasoft stock rom andro 6 miui 10 and have also debloated my phone with this Szaki /XiaomiADBFastbootTools .
Cannot afford new phone for at least 3 to 4 months. Please suggest any workaround or any stock or modified miui rom that will give me the most free ram.
Flash nicheream's lineage os you will get around 800 mb free ram after installing 70-80 apps on 2gb model
mohitdabas07 said:
Flash nicheream's lineage os you will get around 800 mb free ram after installing 70-80 apps on 2gb model
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currently getting 1 gb of free ram.
Vinayakn73 said:
currently getting 1 gb of free ram.
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Well i am able to run 6-7 apps at same time on that rom.
mohitdabas07 said:
Well i am able to run 6-7 apps at same time on that rom.
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could be then problem with my device, as I have tried installing fresh rom several times. Apps keep reloading in background.
I play pokemon go and also use twitter for community tweets but as soon as I switch to one the other reloads.
Vinayakn73 said:
could be then problem with my device, as I have tried installing fresh rom several times. Apps keep reloading in background.
I play pokemon go and also use twitter for community tweets but as soon as I switch to one the other reloads.
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It could be because of MIUI's way too aggressive killing of background apps. RAM management is quite poor.
Also MIUI exaggerates the amount of free RAM by including the cached amount as well. Lightweight ROMs like LOS in conjunction with microG are well suited to the 2GB variant.
Vinayakn73 said:
could be then problem with my device, as I have tried installing fresh rom several times. Apps keep reloading in background.
I play pokemon go and also use twitter for community tweets but as soon as I switch to one the other reloads.
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No it's your rom problem
amn1987 said:
It could be because of MIUI's way too aggressive killing of background apps. RAM management is quite poor.
Also MIUI exaggerates the amount of free RAM by including the cached amount as well. Lightweight ROMs like LOS in conjunction with microG are well suited to the 2GB variant.
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could you please provide link of this rom.
Vinayakn73 said:
could you please provide link of this rom.
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Official LOS 16 based on Android Pie. https://download.lineageos.org/land
Very little customization as is usual with Lineage OS but RAM management and battery backup is very good. Flash lightweight GApps like BitGApps. For microG use the Nanodroid package or minmicrog Magisk module.
amn1987 said:
Official LOS 16 based on Android Pie. https://download.lineageos.org/land
Very little customization as is usual with Lineage OS but RAM management and battery backup is very good. Flash lightweight GApps like BitGApps. For microG use the Nanodroid package or minmicrog Magisk module.
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