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Battery life MUCH worse than Z2

The Z3 is a nice device, I enjoy the screen, thinness and weight, but the latter two definitely come at the expense of battery life.
Of course the faster CPU also plays a part. I'm just getting 3 hours of on screen time with my usage out of it. On the Z2 I got 4 hours.
I don't even know what these people do who get an insane 10 hours of screen on time out of theirs. Probably different kind of use, but still...
Once again I need to look having an external battery with me.
Disappointed.

naujoks said:
The Z3 is a nice device, I enjoy the screen, thinness and weight, but the latter two definitely come at the expense of battery life.
Of course the faster CPU also plays a part. I'm just getting 3 hours of on screen time with my usage out of it. On the Z2 I got 4 hours.
I don't even know what these people do who get an insane 10 hours of screen on time out of theirs. Probably different kind of use, but still...
Once again I need to look having an external battery with me.
Disappointed.
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Post your battery stats page. Seems odd to me. I have 2.5 hours of on screen time with 10 hours on battery at 78% at the moment.

I noticed that too since I switch from Z2. Its difficult to see from the power management tool indicating how many screen time ect.. the battery life just don't seems to be better then z2, and results and very random.. sometimes better then z2, sometimes worst then z2. Perheps firmware upgrade will help..
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I have rolled through 3 Z3s due to defects on my 4th, all had great battery life up to 8.5 hours SOT, lowest is about 5 hrs SOT, before calibration. Give it a few charging cycles, or do a full charge and full discharge then recharge and use. You should then be fine. If that does not work maybe you got some errant apps or lots of them continously syncing. Also go to backup and reset menu and disable data logging.

been averaging a day and a half with over 8 hrs SOT with mine. mix of wifi/lte

I don't know how you guys do it. I always get around 3 hours SOT, no matter what. I wish there was a way to check wakelocks without root.
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I think it has something to do with the apps you use.
Facebook, facebook messenger, snapchat, swiftkey and Nova Launcher gave me from 4+ estimated days (in stamina mode) to 1 day and 1 hours.

If I don't play games, I get between 6 and 8 hours SOT at the moment.
Check that google play services aren't burning through battery.
Should never get 2 or 3 or even 4 hours SOT unless you're playing games.
I use screen brightness on about 80% as well.

I'll be posting my power usage screenshots soon.
Off to the top off my head, screen was about 50% of power (with automatic brightness, and the slider set on the 1st third), the most power hungry app took about 25%, with the rest taken up by various other processes and apps.
WiFi off.

Facebook used to be a battery killer, I don't use it, but check on that.

Z3 has an incredible battery life
there's something wrong in the op

For my baterry stay perfectly (often 20% for system 20% standby and 50% screen)

Even if it's Facebook that eats 25% of power that still wouldn't account for the overall bad battery life.

Nope mate, sorry - my battery life is out of this world. It's not the Z3, it's your device - get it tested, re-flashed or inspected if the problem persists.

abhinav.tella said:
Facebook used to be a battery killer, I don't use it, but check on that.
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Remove facebook or use an app killer

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Remove facebook or use an app killer
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Oh no I already removed, I do not have any battery issues, I was just giving a tip to OP.

Right, so here are my power usage screen shots.
I don't think these can be called ok in any kind of scenario.
I would like to add that with my Z2 I didn't ever get up to the 6 or 7 hours other people were getting out of it, but with my kind of use I got 4 to 4.5 hours, which is considerably more than I'm getting right now.
I supposed it's kinda obvious, with a faster CPU and a smaller battery. What else could have happened. It just annoys me that Sony tries to tell us that battery life is BETTER than on the Z2. It is not.

Well, reviews uphold/confirm Sony's claims so its probably not the phone itself per say. I get 7-8.5 Hrs SOT easily. Disable autosync when un-needed and location services as well. Then see.

Just as everyone suspected, it's malwarebook causing abysmal battery life. Remove it and watch your phone get tons more battery.
Considering that you're one of the very few, if not only, getting poor battery.....I have no idea what else it could be. The phone get's better battery because of using the 801 SOC instead of the 800, which sips battery like fine wine, leading to the increase in life over the z2.

Malware.... Yeah, whatevs.
Fact remains that with the same usage as before my Z3 performs worse than my Z2, so there.

Doze Performance

So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?

1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow

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aamir123 said:
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil

Doze is working really well for me. Battery drain overnight seems to almost be non existent. I went to bed with 51% battery life on my phone. I woke up roughly 7 hours later and it was still at 51%.
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Yeah I had only 4% drain after 8 hours overnight.

PhilipL said:
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil
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that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.

How long have you had the phone for? AFAIK it can take a few days for Doze to "learn" how to optimize (reduce) battery drain. You may find it gets better over the course of a week or so. If you check the "detailed" battery stats (click the first battery graph) you should see little to no "awake" time overnight when you'd expect Doze to kick in - e.g see this link as an example: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjguaIIcGgUZn7w-KXnY3MJ0qTK0rUCWiA
Otherwise try as @PhilipL suggested and run in aeroplane mode overnight.

Doze is working as advertised here. On my 5x and my N5 as well.
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aamir123 said:
that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
Regards
Phil

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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
Regards
Phil
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Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.

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aamir123 said:
Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
Regards
Phil

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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
Regards
Phil
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Adaptive brightness less than 50%

I'm getting 3 to 4% drain during 7 hours overnight, working well for me.
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Hi
Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
Regards
Phil

PhilipL said:
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
Regards
Phil
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Now you need to find what is draining your battery overnight when not in Flight mode. I suspect you will find either Google Services or Google Play services not releasing the modem or something similar.

When I installed Cerebus it asked to turn off battery optimization. My guess is that is Doze could be wrong though. It was the only app that asked. So far battery life is better then the N6 that I had a Amplify running on.

km8j said:
That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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Might be a standard if everything worked perfectly, which I have yet to see. With this new architecture, you are guaranteed it. I love it.

I lost about 1% in 3 hours last night with WiFi calling on. Maybe it has to do with poor coverage. Last night I did end up with 3.5 hours sot which I think was my highest. So in the past few days I have factory reset and turned on WiFi calling.
Now I need to optimize my browser usage, chrome was talking more than screen was ~20%. Using #nochromo now and not much better.

Battery went from 66 to 64% last night in 8 hours.. #dozeisdope
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Battery life after root?

I have rooted my phone yesterday and has since then installed Amplify, Greenify, Servicely, Coolify, and Titanium backup to disable all that is considered as "bloatware" by Package Disabled Pro (which the app itself does not function on rooted devices). I can't say for sure my SOTs yet, but battery seems to be draining pretty fast for me and it heats up faster than normal when on stock. And I also did flash the fix zip for all the bugs after root.
How are all of you all phones after root and what other adjustments have any of you done?

Just an update for leaving my fully charged phone unplugged overnight, I lost 4% at a rate of 0.7% an hour over nearly 6 hours. Checked Gsam stats and I saw phone signal was using 80 something percent of the power.

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I have rooted my phone yesterday and has since then installed Amplify, Greenify, Servicely, Coolify, and Titanium backup to disable all that is considered as "bloatware" by Package Disabled Pro (which the app itself does not function on rooted devices). I can't say for sure my SOTs yet, but battery seems to be draining pretty fast for me and it heats up faster than normal when on stock. And I also did flash the fix zip for all the bugs after root.
How are all of you all phones after root and what other adjustments have any of you done?
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I experienced the same, higher battery consumption, slower phone and it heats up pretty quickly even just being in one app for longer than 5 mins. I tried the interactive kernel and still the same. Also I had greenify, forcedoze, naptime, Amplify you name it and the phone would not enter that "doze" mode it was supposed to, something in the background was not letting the phone sleep. Also something that bothered me a lot was the lag. I haven't been able to get at least 3 hrs SOT, before root with greenify I was able to do 4.5-5 hrs SOT with normal usage. I am seriously thinking to reverting back to stock.

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I experienced the same, higher battery consumption, slower phone and it heats up pretty quickly even just being in one app for longer than 5 mins. I tried the interactive kernel and still the same. Also I had greenify, forcedoze, naptime, Amplify you name it and the phone would not enter that "doze" mode it was supposed to, something in the background was not letting the phone sleep. Also something that bothered me a lot was the lag. I haven't been able to get at least 3 hrs SOT, before root with greenify I was able to do 4.5-5 hrs SOT with normal usage. I am seriously thinking to reverting back to stock.
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Aha, that sounds about right. I'm at 51% right now and it's only 2 hours of SOT. Although that's mostly because of a lot of overheating here in Orlando and playing Pokemon Go, I still see pretty fast drainage from just using any one app too.

I just flashed and 935 U and rooted the night before last,so I haven't had much time on it yet, but mine has been much better. I was about to send my phone in to have the battery replaced because I could hardly get 2 or 3hrs of sot on stock. Yesterday I used it very heavy, redownloading all my Gear VR apps and games and playing Minecraft VR for almost an hour. I did a lot of other work and downloading apps and at the end I had 4hrs of sot and still had 20% left, though I don't remember my total time on battery.
I did more adjusting today, I turned on all the Xposed options in Greenify, and greenifyed a ton of apps following the Guide for flashing U firmware, and so far I have 84% with 6hrs on time and about and hour of sot time.
I though I heard it takes a couple of days for Greenify and Amplify to learn and make adjustments. Maybe give it a few days. I am not sure if you did or not, but I have always found that it is a good idea to do a factory reset when doing major system adjustments like rooting, or major updates.

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I just flashed and 935 U and rooted the night before last,so I haven't had much time on it yet, but mine has been much better. I was about to send my phone in to have the battery replaced because I could hardly get 2 or 3hrs of sot on stock. Yesterday I used it very heavy, redownloading all my Gear VR apps and games and playing Minecraft VR for almost an hour. I did a lot of other work and downloading apps and at the end I had 4hrs of sot and still had 20% left, though I don't remember my total time on battery.
I did more adjusting today, I turned on all the Xposed options in Greenify, and greenifyed a ton of apps following the Guide for flashing U firmware, and so far I have 84% with 6hrs on time and about and hour of sot time.
I though I heard it takes a couple of days for Greenify and Amplify to learn and make adjustments. Maybe give it a few days. I am not sure if you did or not, but I have always found that it is a good idea to do a factory reset when doing major system adjustments like rooting, or major updates.
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Dude, that sounds impossible to achieve 6 hours of SOT while only losing 16%. I'd like to see some screenshots of everything that you did and how you can achieve such results while using daily functions with stuff such as Facebook and all that.

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Dude, that sounds impossible to achieve 6 hours of SOT while only losing 16%. I'd like to see some screenshots of everything that you did and how you can achieve such results while using daily functions with stuff such as Facebook and all that.
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He said 6 hours of "on" time and an hour of SOT...
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Dirtdawg57 said:
I just flashed and 935 U and rooted the night before last,so I haven't had much time on it yet, but mine has been much better. I was about to send my phone in to have the battery replaced because I could hardly get 2 or 3hrs of sot on stock. Yesterday I used it very heavy, redownloading all my Gear VR apps and games and playing Minecraft VR for almost an hour. I did a lot of other work and downloading apps and at the end I had 4hrs of sot and still had 20% left, though I don't remember my total time on battery.
I did more adjusting today, I turned on all the Xposed options in Greenify, and greenifyed a ton of apps following the Guide for flashing U firmware, and so far I have 84% with 6hrs on time and about and hour of sot time.
I though I heard it takes a couple of days for Greenify and Amplify to learn and make adjustments. Maybe give it a few days. I am not sure if you did or not, but I have always found that it is a good idea to do a factory reset when doing major system adjustments like rooting, or major updates.
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He said 6 hours of "on" time and an hour of SOT...
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Whoops.... My bad. I'd still like to know accurate battery stats and see what's his setup is though. I think I realized that my phone may be heating up too quickly because I altered the governor when I don't think I needed to after flashing @psouza4 's fix+debloat zip for my phone.
That puts in debate though, will the 935U make a huge difference in battery life?

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Whoops.... My bad. I'd still like to know accurate battery stats and see what's his setup is though. I think I realized that my phone may be heating up too quickly because I altered the governor when I don't think I needed to after flashing @psouza4 's fix+debloat zip for my phone.
That puts in debate though, will the 935U make a huge difference in battery life?
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Honest mistake, I have no comment on the other things you've mentioned unfortunately as I've decided to wait it out until things get a little more stable with the rooted firmware. First smart phone I've owned where I haven't rooted immediately after an exploit was found. I just need everything to work right now with little intervention on my part lol... smh... it's a sad sad day for me
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I am at work and don't have time at the moment to go over everything at the moment, but when I will write it out and get some screenshots. I ended up with 4hrs 27mins sot last night and had 13% left. I should mention that I leave the brightness on auto, because I imagine that make's a big difference and a lot of people like their screens at max brightness.

I ended up being busy so I don't have time to mention everything tonight but here is some picture proof. It wasn't as good today, I think because I work in the basement of a hospital where the service is bad and I am constantly switching between wifi antenna's. I also realized that Amplify doesn't come pre-setup, so it wasn't doing much of anything. Tonight I set it up so I am anxious to see if it helps. I also bought better battery stats today so I can get some more detailed info. Wednesday I am off and might be able to test it better.
I will also say I have way less lag after switching to U firmware and rooting. Mine was getting pretty bad on stock. I like having more control over what I can freeze again.

My battery drain is about the same before and after root, which is 2 or 3% an hour in standby with AOD on and BT connected to Gear S2. Wifi off unless charging, nearby device scanning off, Android backup off, all of psouza4's tweaks, brightness on auto, etc. Screen-on time generally close to 5 hours if I'm indoors, which I usually am, though I never use it that long without charging it. I looked just now and with 51% charge I have 2h24m SOT and 7h30m powered on. Most of that was light use reading news and stuff.
I might try the U firmware just for fun, not to try and get better battery life.
Overall, basically no change in battery life for me according to the discharge rates (%/hr).

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My battery drain is about the same before and after root, which is 2 or 3% an hour in standby with AOD on and BT connected to Gear S2. Wifi off unless charging, nearby device scanning off, Android backup off, all of psouza4's tweaks, brightness on auto, etc. Screen-on time generally close to 5 hours if I'm indoors, which I usually am, though I ne TVver use it that long without charging it. I looked just now and with 51% charge I have 2h24m SOT and 7h30m powered on. Most of that was light use reading news and stuff.
I might try the U firmware just for fun, not to try and get better battery life.
Overall, basically no change in battery life for me according to the discharge rates (%/hr).
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Yeah, something isn't cutting out for me being on root. I had much better battery life before easily achieving 1 hour of SOT by 88-90% and 3 hours of SOT by 50%. Something is really draining my phone faster than usual despite all the battery mods I did even on the U firmware.
If only I could be on the U firmware and keep the Advanced Calling and Visual Voicemail. >__>

battery life and performance issues are why I am back to stock after flashing all roms that are out there and still not worth being rooted.. I have been waiting for the better roms to come forward, but not to much support for the Verizon s7 due to the locked bootloader

Battery Drain Issue in Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1

My battery is draining like crazy in ideal conditions
Apps like FM Radio, com.secureuiservice, MBN Test are eating up the battery please figure out a solution

Try wiping cache and dalvik in recovery. It'll make the drain go away.

Not solved
I already tried these things nothing seems to work

Neerajb12 said:
I already tried these things nothing seems to work
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Try turning off automatic sync

Fingerprint sensor is the culprit

Uninstall fm radio, it drains 15-20% of battery.

I had the same problem .... What i did was flashed rr rom intalled all my apps and then changed kernel .... I use the darkonah kernel latest version you can find it in roms kernels and other developments forum...... I also installed naptime and used greenify.... Now i get 10-11 hrs SOT and the battery does not deain at all when screen is off.....

Follow this guide and removed all those bloatware apps: https://forum.xda-developers.com/as.../guide-remove-stock-apps-root-access-t3794729

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Fingerprint sensor is the culprit
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I just disabled the fingerprint sensor and idle battery drain is gone
Even though the overall battery life isn't that great but ideally no battery drain is there
Thanks
But living without the finger print sensor is tough

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Neerajb12 said:
I just disabled the fingerprint sensor and idle battery drain is gone
Even though the overall battery life isn't that great but ideally no battery drain is there
Thanks
But living without the finger print sensor is tough
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The idle drain can be fixed by naptime..... My phones battery doesn't drain at all when screen is off and i use fingerprint....

Neerajb12 said:
I just disabled the fingerprint sensor and idle battery drain is gone
Even though the overall battery life isn't that great but ideally no battery drain is there
Thanks
But living without the finger print sensor is tough
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Well i got quite used to live sans fingerprint sensor. It's kinda safer though hehehe.
For overall drain check what's draining that.
Usually get 7 to 9 hr sot.
Not a gamer

Neerajb12 said:
My battery is draining like crazy in ideal conditions
Apps like FM Radio, com.secureuiservice, MBN Test are eating up the battery please figure out a solution
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Not sure what the problem is with your phone. I'm getting up to 5.5 days and close to 18 hrs SOT on a single charge with minimal standby drain, with my ZB602KL - all with just some internal tweaking/fine tuning (no third party power saving/data throttling apps whatsoever).
Have you tried limiting background activity and data usage on your apps? That seemed to work well for me. Or even cutting down your animation speeds to 0.5x?
I've just installed AdGuard to monitor and/or block background data activity. Pretty good so far. I've also just installed Naptime - by Francisco Franco, with minimal adb commands to enforce Aggressive Doze in standby mode. You should give it a try. It's amazing! Sends my phone into deep sleep seconds after screen off and versatile enough to let in calls and messages and allow other activities. It can take hours of standby for the battery level to drop by 1%!
Check it out on Play Store.

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Not sure what the problem is with your phone. I'm getting up to 5.5 days and close to 18 hrs SOT on a single charge with minimal standby drain, with my ZB602KL - all with just some internal tweaking/fine tuning (no third party power saving/data throttling apps whatsoever).
Have you tried limiting background activity and data usage on your apps? That seemed to work well for me. Or even cutting down your animation speeds to 0.5x?
I've just installed AdGuard to monitor and/or block background data activity. Pretty good so far. I've also just installed Naptime - by Francisco Franco, with minimal adb commands to enforce Aggressive Doze in standby mode. You should give it a try. It's amazing! Sends my phone into deep sleep seconds after screen off and versatile enough to let in calls and messages and allow other activities. It can take hours of standby for the battery level to drop by 1%!
Check it out on Play Store.
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Could you please share the battery stats .. 18 hrs. SOT is too much even for one day so congrats for that.
What apps you use ?

Neerajb12 said:
My battery is draining like crazy in ideal conditions
Apps like FM Radio, com.secureuiservice, MBN Test are eating up the battery please figure out a solution
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Asking off the topic
I am planning to buy this phone
And i use my fone usually in night time
I want to know when display brightness is kept at minimum
How much dim display goes?

addy692 said:
Asking off the topic
I am planning to buy this phone
And i use my fone usually in night time
I want to know when display brightness is kept at minimum
How much dim display goes?
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Doesnt go too dim, its still pretty bright, doesnt go as dim or bright as a miui, but you'll love the display its great

zenbandit said:
Not sure what the problem is with your phone. I'm getting up to 5.5 days and close to 18 hrs SOT on a single charge with minimal standby drain, with my ZB602KL - all with just some internal tweaking/fine tuning (no third party power saving/data throttling apps whatsoever).
Have you tried limiting background activity and data usage on your apps? That seemed to work well for me. Or even cutting down your animation speeds to 0.5x?
I've just installed AdGuard to monitor and/or block background data activity. Pretty good so far. I've also just installed Naptime - by Francisco Franco, with minimal adb commands to enforce Aggressive Doze in standby mode. You should give it a try. It's amazing! Sends my phone into deep sleep seconds after screen off and versatile enough to let in calls and messages and allow other activities. It can take hours of standby for the battery level to drop by 1%!
Check it out on Play Store.
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would love to see the exact steps you did along with screenshots. 5 days standby with 18 hrs SOT is amazing

molabee said:
would love to see the exact steps you did along with screenshots. 5 days standby with 18 hrs SOT is amazing
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Guys, I actually have 2 screenshots to share but when I tried to upload them here, xda asks for an URL. I don't have an online image account. Only images saved on my laptop (I don't like the idea of my pix in the public domain). If there's an alternative way to share the images here, please advise me. Sorry, I'm not very tech savvy.
Btw, correction. Not 18 hours SOT but in my opinion, CLOSE to 18 hours - 17hrs and 23 mins to be exact (over 5 days, 13 hrs and 30 minutes).
AVinaSh_S, the first full-on, intensive test I did when I first got my phone was without any assistive apps. I got 16 hrs and 16 mins of SOT over 4 days, 4 hours and 42 minutes with the M1 in it's raw form (but with some internal tweaks like denying background activities and data usage of apps - all of which come standard with Oreo 8.1).
Neither did I use any assistive apps in the second test - normal every day use, for which I got the above mentioned 17 hrs + over 5.5 days - again with the M1 in it's original state (but with the same tweaks mentioned above).
It's only now that I'm running the phone with AdGuard and Naptime. I have not concluded this test yet. I'm hoping to see an improvement over the last test - under normal, every day use conditions.

supernovaa said:
Doesnt go too dim, its still pretty bright, doesnt go as dim or bright as a miui, but you'll love the display its great
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Can u try this app
https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...BMAB6BAgIEAI&usg=AOvVaw1QASQlBaLW_MPUAP-kPznD[/url]
And tell whether it goes more dimmer with this app
Thank you.

zenbandit said:
Guys, I actually have 2 screenshots to share but when I tried to upload them here, xda asks for an URL. I don't have an online image account. Only images saved on my laptop (I don't like the idea of my pix in the public domain). If there's an alternative way to share the images here, please advise me. Sorry, I'm not very tech savvy.
Btw, correction. Not 18 hours SOT but in my opinion, CLOSE to 18 hours - 17hrs and 23 mins to be exact (over 5 days, 13 hrs and 30 minutes).
AVinaSh_S, the first full-on, intensive test I did when I first got my phone was without any assistive apps. I got 16 hrs and 16 mins of SOT over 4 days, 4 hours and 42 minutes with the M1 in it's raw form (but with some internal tweaks like denying background activities and data usage of apps - all of which come standard with Oreo 8.1).
Neither did I use any assistive apps in the second test - normal every day use, for which I got the above mentioned 17 hrs + over 5.5 days - again with the M1 in it's original state (but with the same tweaks mentioned above).
It's only now that I'm running the phone with AdGuard and Naptime. I have not concluded this test yet. I'm hoping to see an improvement over the last test - under normal, every day use conditions.
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Adguard app available in play store? Is it the one with name "Adguard Content Blocker"?

abwayman said:
Adguard app available in play store? Is it the one with name "Adguard Content Blocker"?
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No. Adguard is not available on PS. I'm trying out the free one that allows for a 7 day trial period. I might buy it if it works well. The content blocker only works with the Yandex browser - which I don't use.
Naptime however is available for free on PS. It works very well. I confirmed it's functionality with GSam Battery Monitor.

Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Samsung Galaxy A71's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Phone lost 24% overnight. Culprit seems to be Facebook services, which in turn triggered Google services (for GPS location). I've disabled all the FB crap now and I'll see how it goes today...
Update 19/02 - I'm using Swipe Pro for Facebook and since then the battery seems to have settled. Getting really good battery life now with not too much standby drain.

The 730G is dreadful on my Xiaomi Mi Note 10 - which has an even bigger, ~5200mAh battery. It performs much worse than my OnePlus 7 Pro with 4000mAh. IMO the chipset (730/730G) is NOT power efficient.

h8Aramex said:
The 730G is dreadful on my Xiaomi Mi Note 10 - which has an even bigger, ~5200mAh battery. It performs much worse than my OnePlus 7 Pro with 4000mAh. IMO the chipset (730/730G) is NOT power efficient.
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Likely a device specific problem. Notebookcheck test power consumption in idle, sd 730/g phones are within the same range of comparable mid range SOCs. A71 in particular consumes pretty much the same as Pixel 3a for example (Snapdragon 670), more under load but it's quite a bit more powerful as well, consumes less than Galaxy A51 (Exynos 9611), way less than Huawei P30 lite (Kirin 710) and quite a bit less than Oneplus 7 pro as well for that matter. It uses the same modem as sd 710 and 712 so that's not a problem either.

I have 2-4% standby battery drain. But I checked all apps for background battery usage, I don't use facebook app. The only background apps I use are email, sense flip clock and I use greenify on top of that.
Wysłane z mojego SM-A715F przy użyciu Tapatalka

I have about 15% battery drain in flight mode during the night. I feel this is a CATASTROPHY! What is causing this??? Is there a FREE app that can find what app is doing this? If I check in the settings, it says all apps has drained 0% during the night..

Hey, am thinking of buying an A71 and was wondering if you still have battery issues please?

I have wifi off and Bluetooth for watch, No FB . I get 1 or 2% loss mainly messenger lite , and my games I don't shut down .. with wifi on an average day its about 40% loss . that with wifi always on , games being played, youtube etc ... Since taking of FB I have noticed a huge difference, as before I was loosing 10/20 % at night and 70% in the day ... now I charge once every 2 days, which is not bad ...

guitarsmurf2501 said:
Phone lost 24% overnight. Culprit seems to be Facebook services, which in turn triggered Google services (for GPS location). I've disabled all the FB crap now and I'll see how it goes today...
Update 19/02 - I'm using Swipe Pro for Facebook and since then the battery seems to have settled. Getting really good battery life now with not too much standby drain.
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if U use Facebook Messenger , just remove it and test your phone again
if its not gonna helpful , just check what app drain your battery in setting

Same problem. Just got mine and lost 25% overnight. AOD is not even on. I disabled Facebook the instant I took it out of the box so it isn't that. Must be another app but not sure which. All the same apps I was using on my previous device and had no issues like this.

My battery life is horrible on my A71, I come home from work with 10%, on my P20 Pro which has a smaller battery is 65-70%. I have already used package disabler to disable the crap and its still happening. Going to be returning this phone.

Standby Drain on A71 Samsung
I have the phone for 1 week now and the battery I can say is performing very poor. Just got it to 100% then after 1 minute suddenly went to 99% and after 5 mins suddenly went to 98% just on standby mode. Can anyone please explain me why this is happening?
My device is always optimized (no background processes running). Every app (even the useful ones) I have put to sleep, which means I'm sacrificing on not getting the notifications when the internet is connected as those those apps are put to sleep but I did it just to put my battery on right track. Still no significant benefit.
Standby drain is the biggest issue I'm facing. Early 2% drops from 100% for no reason at all. At night time, I see at least 3% drop in 4 to 5 hours standby with wifi off and zero brightness and dark mode on and always-on display disabled, battery saving mode on and no app running in the background.
I'm having 1% battery drop every 10 mins for just reading comments on XDA developer or GSMArena with brightness to 0%, no extra app working in background, have put all the apps to sleep when not in use, no multimedia use, always-on display disabled, dark mode on, battery saving mode on. So, when I'm using Chrome, I'm only using Chrome. When I'm watching Youtube videos on app with 20% brightness and 60% volume, I'm having 1% drop every 7 to 8 mins. I see variability between each % drop. Like for example, sometimes it drops 1% at 4 mins interval and after that it will take 8 mins to drop a percent.
I have never been so confused in terms of battery life before. Someone from Samsung should at least come forward and explain to us what is going on.
From the reviews, the new updates doesn't have much to offer in terms of battery life. I haven't gotten the update yet.

Good-doctor said:
I have the phone for 1 week now and the battery I can say is performing very poor. Just got it to 100% then after 1 minute suddenly went to 99% and after 5 mins suddenly went to 98% just on standby mode. Can anyone please explain me why this is happening?
My device is always optimized (no background processes running). Every app (even the useful ones) I have put to sleep, which means I'm sacrificing on not getting the notifications when the internet is connected as those those apps are put to sleep but I did it just to put my battery on right track. Still no significant benefit.
Standby drain is the biggest issue I'm facing. Early 2% drops from 100% for no reason at all. At night time, I see at least 3% drop in 4 to 5 hours standby with wifi off and zero brightness and dark mode on and always-on display disabled, battery saving mode on and no app running in the background.
I'm having 1% battery drop every 10 mins for just reading comments on XDA developer or GSMArena with brightness to 0%, no extra app working in background, have put all the apps to sleep when not in use, no multimedia use, always-on display disabled, dark mode on, battery saving mode on. So, when I'm using Chrome, I'm only using Chrome. When I'm watching Youtube videos on app with 20% brightness and 60% volume, I'm having 1% drop every 7 to 8 mins. I see variability between each % drop. Like for example, sometimes it drops 1% at 4 mins interval and after that it will take 8 mins to drop a percent.
I have never been so confused in terms of battery life before. Someone from Samsung should at least come forward and explain to us what is going on.
From the reviews, the new updates doesn't have much to offer in terms of battery life. I haven't gotten the update yet.
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Had the same issue and no matter what I did couldn’t fix it. I turned this off turned that off, lowered this, reduced that. In the end I gave up and returned it. Shouldn’t be that much of an effort but then it always seems to be with Samsung. Huawei for example it’s just ready to go and works flawlessly out of the box. For a phone that had 4500mah battery it performs nothing like it. I bought the new iPhone SE, it’s battery is tiny 1800mah or something and it lasts longer than the A71.

47% overnight, with no use. It's my second A71. The first, the battery seemed normal. But I did not observe this detail carefully. I changed it the first time due to the infamous discoloration defect of the screen on a gray background with low brightness. Now the second, in addition to the same discoloration defect of the screen, the battery does not last! I went to sleep, the battery at 47%. Wifi off. Mobile data off. GPS off. Bluetooth turned off. Vibration off. Always on Display off. NFC Off. Sim card removed. Only Whatsapp running in the background. All other apps have been configured to be suspended in the background. Approximately 8 hours later, without any use, the battery has zeroed. I have a Samsung Galaxy A7 2017, which has 3 years of use and a 3600MAh battery worn by hundreds of charge cycles, and yet its battery is WELL better than the Galaxy A71, which has 4500MAh and a few days of use. If a new cell phone discharges at this rate, imagine after about 2 years of use. You will need to recharge every hour. Turning the adaptive battery on or off for me made no difference. During normal use, it discharges quickly, but the problem is much more evident at night, when the device is not in use. It seems to drain as much energy in idle mode as in normal use.
The quality of Samsung's products is dropping every day. 3 years ago, you could buy an intermediary made of metal and glass. Protection IP68, OIS and Gorilla Glass 4. Today, the devices that cost almost the same as the high end, are all made of plastic. Without IP68. Gorilla Glass 3 (obsolete technology from 2013), without OIS, and batteries that although bigger, last less. Quality decreases and price increases. It is unfortunate.

h8Aramex said:
The 730G is dreadful on my Xiaomi Mi Note 10 - which has an even bigger, ~5200mAh battery. It performs much worse than my OnePlus 7 Pro with 4000mAh. IMO the chipset (730/730G) is NOT power efficient.
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I have the 730G 8GB ram variant on my A71 (This is the standard in the PH) and my phone lasts for 2 days with social media and youtube usage. OST is between 6-7 hours so no issues with the chip itself, the phone software is probably not optimized properly with the Mi Note 10.

DOVahFeyN said:
I have the 730G 8GB ram variant on my A71 (This is the standard in the PH) and my phone lasts for 2 days with social media and youtube usage. OST is between 6-7 hours so no issues with the chip itself, the phone software is probably not optimized properly with the Mi Note 10.
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So what's happening to the other people in this thread? Is it a case of just too many bad apples (bad/broken devices) or... ?

h8Aramex said:
So what's happening to the other people in this thread? Is it a case of just too many bad apples (bad/broken devices) or... ?
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I think we need to put things into context first. None of them talked about what apps they had running, what settings they used, etc. Also, the other dude talked about the Huawei when that phone is known to aggressively kill apps very quickly in the background to save battery as a default. You can also do that with Sammy's but you need to activate it first.
As for my phone, it's set on its default out of the box-setting which is optimized if that at all matters.
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So what's happening to the other people in this thread? Is it a case of just too many bad apples (bad/broken devices) or... ?
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I think we also need to look at which carriers are having issues. I have an open line international variant and I've had none of the issues in this thread.
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iro_ori said:
Hey, am thinking of buying an A71 and was wondering if you still have battery issues please?
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If you can find an open line (not tied to any carrier) international variant, it doesn't have any issues.

guitarsmurf2501 said:
Phone lost 24% overnight. Culprit seems to be Facebook services, which in turn triggered Google services (for GPS location). I've disabled all the FB crap now and I'll see how it goes today...
Update 19/02 - I'm using Swipe Pro for Facebook and since then the battery seems to have settled. Getting really good battery life now with not too much standby drain.
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Mine was a bit power hungry at first 6 months ago
Now that i shut off and tried to kill all processes but active ones my battery is AMAZING!
So to compare I read your post last night at around 11 ish to midnight topped off the phone to 94%, and it dropped to 93% just before i went to sleep
killed all the processes with built in battery device care and also greenify.
woke up today at 8:30am and the batter was at 90% and dropped to 89% after a min of use.
So 3-4% over eight or nine hours.... I"m pretty happy with that.