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Doze Performance

So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?

1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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Soundfreak82 said:
1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow

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aamir123 said:
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
Regards
Phil

Doze is working really well for me. Battery drain overnight seems to almost be non existent. I went to bed with 51% battery life on my phone. I woke up roughly 7 hours later and it was still at 51%.
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Yeah I had only 4% drain after 8 hours overnight.

PhilipL said:
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil
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that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.

How long have you had the phone for? AFAIK it can take a few days for Doze to "learn" how to optimize (reduce) battery drain. You may find it gets better over the course of a week or so. If you check the "detailed" battery stats (click the first battery graph) you should see little to no "awake" time overnight when you'd expect Doze to kick in - e.g see this link as an example: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjguaIIcGgUZn7w-KXnY3MJ0qTK0rUCWiA
Otherwise try as @PhilipL suggested and run in aeroplane mode overnight.

Doze is working as advertised here. On my 5x and my N5 as well.
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aamir123 said:
that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
Regards
Phil

PhilipL said:
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Phil
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Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.

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aamir123 said:
Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
Regards
Phil

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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
Regards
Phil
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Adaptive brightness less than 50%

I'm getting 3 to 4% drain during 7 hours overnight, working well for me.
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Hi
Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
Regards
Phil

PhilipL said:
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
Regards
Phil
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Now you need to find what is draining your battery overnight when not in Flight mode. I suspect you will find either Google Services or Google Play services not releasing the modem or something similar.

When I installed Cerebus it asked to turn off battery optimization. My guess is that is Doze could be wrong though. It was the only app that asked. So far battery life is better then the N6 that I had a Amplify running on.

km8j said:
That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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Might be a standard if everything worked perfectly, which I have yet to see. With this new architecture, you are guaranteed it. I love it.

I lost about 1% in 3 hours last night with WiFi calling on. Maybe it has to do with poor coverage. Last night I did end up with 3.5 hours sot which I think was my highest. So in the past few days I have factory reset and turned on WiFi calling.
Now I need to optimize my browser usage, chrome was talking more than screen was ~20%. Using #nochromo now and not much better.

Battery went from 66 to 64% last night in 8 hours.. #dozeisdope
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Battery life after root?

I have rooted my phone yesterday and has since then installed Amplify, Greenify, Servicely, Coolify, and Titanium backup to disable all that is considered as "bloatware" by Package Disabled Pro (which the app itself does not function on rooted devices). I can't say for sure my SOTs yet, but battery seems to be draining pretty fast for me and it heats up faster than normal when on stock. And I also did flash the fix zip for all the bugs after root.
How are all of you all phones after root and what other adjustments have any of you done?

Just an update for leaving my fully charged phone unplugged overnight, I lost 4% at a rate of 0.7% an hour over nearly 6 hours. Checked Gsam stats and I saw phone signal was using 80 something percent of the power.

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I have rooted my phone yesterday and has since then installed Amplify, Greenify, Servicely, Coolify, and Titanium backup to disable all that is considered as "bloatware" by Package Disabled Pro (which the app itself does not function on rooted devices). I can't say for sure my SOTs yet, but battery seems to be draining pretty fast for me and it heats up faster than normal when on stock. And I also did flash the fix zip for all the bugs after root.
How are all of you all phones after root and what other adjustments have any of you done?
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I experienced the same, higher battery consumption, slower phone and it heats up pretty quickly even just being in one app for longer than 5 mins. I tried the interactive kernel and still the same. Also I had greenify, forcedoze, naptime, Amplify you name it and the phone would not enter that "doze" mode it was supposed to, something in the background was not letting the phone sleep. Also something that bothered me a lot was the lag. I haven't been able to get at least 3 hrs SOT, before root with greenify I was able to do 4.5-5 hrs SOT with normal usage. I am seriously thinking to reverting back to stock.

davidmejiam7 said:
I experienced the same, higher battery consumption, slower phone and it heats up pretty quickly even just being in one app for longer than 5 mins. I tried the interactive kernel and still the same. Also I had greenify, forcedoze, naptime, Amplify you name it and the phone would not enter that "doze" mode it was supposed to, something in the background was not letting the phone sleep. Also something that bothered me a lot was the lag. I haven't been able to get at least 3 hrs SOT, before root with greenify I was able to do 4.5-5 hrs SOT with normal usage. I am seriously thinking to reverting back to stock.
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Aha, that sounds about right. I'm at 51% right now and it's only 2 hours of SOT. Although that's mostly because of a lot of overheating here in Orlando and playing Pokemon Go, I still see pretty fast drainage from just using any one app too.

I just flashed and 935 U and rooted the night before last,so I haven't had much time on it yet, but mine has been much better. I was about to send my phone in to have the battery replaced because I could hardly get 2 or 3hrs of sot on stock. Yesterday I used it very heavy, redownloading all my Gear VR apps and games and playing Minecraft VR for almost an hour. I did a lot of other work and downloading apps and at the end I had 4hrs of sot and still had 20% left, though I don't remember my total time on battery.
I did more adjusting today, I turned on all the Xposed options in Greenify, and greenifyed a ton of apps following the Guide for flashing U firmware, and so far I have 84% with 6hrs on time and about and hour of sot time.
I though I heard it takes a couple of days for Greenify and Amplify to learn and make adjustments. Maybe give it a few days. I am not sure if you did or not, but I have always found that it is a good idea to do a factory reset when doing major system adjustments like rooting, or major updates.

Dirtdawg57 said:
I just flashed and 935 U and rooted the night before last,so I haven't had much time on it yet, but mine has been much better. I was about to send my phone in to have the battery replaced because I could hardly get 2 or 3hrs of sot on stock. Yesterday I used it very heavy, redownloading all my Gear VR apps and games and playing Minecraft VR for almost an hour. I did a lot of other work and downloading apps and at the end I had 4hrs of sot and still had 20% left, though I don't remember my total time on battery.
I did more adjusting today, I turned on all the Xposed options in Greenify, and greenifyed a ton of apps following the Guide for flashing U firmware, and so far I have 84% with 6hrs on time and about and hour of sot time.
I though I heard it takes a couple of days for Greenify and Amplify to learn and make adjustments. Maybe give it a few days. I am not sure if you did or not, but I have always found that it is a good idea to do a factory reset when doing major system adjustments like rooting, or major updates.
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Dude, that sounds impossible to achieve 6 hours of SOT while only losing 16%. I'd like to see some screenshots of everything that you did and how you can achieve such results while using daily functions with stuff such as Facebook and all that.

GigaSPX said:
Dude, that sounds impossible to achieve 6 hours of SOT while only losing 16%. I'd like to see some screenshots of everything that you did and how you can achieve such results while using daily functions with stuff such as Facebook and all that.
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He said 6 hours of "on" time and an hour of SOT...
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Dirtdawg57 said:
I just flashed and 935 U and rooted the night before last,so I haven't had much time on it yet, but mine has been much better. I was about to send my phone in to have the battery replaced because I could hardly get 2 or 3hrs of sot on stock. Yesterday I used it very heavy, redownloading all my Gear VR apps and games and playing Minecraft VR for almost an hour. I did a lot of other work and downloading apps and at the end I had 4hrs of sot and still had 20% left, though I don't remember my total time on battery.
I did more adjusting today, I turned on all the Xposed options in Greenify, and greenifyed a ton of apps following the Guide for flashing U firmware, and so far I have 84% with 6hrs on time and about and hour of sot time.
I though I heard it takes a couple of days for Greenify and Amplify to learn and make adjustments. Maybe give it a few days. I am not sure if you did or not, but I have always found that it is a good idea to do a factory reset when doing major system adjustments like rooting, or major updates.
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He said 6 hours of "on" time and an hour of SOT...
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Whoops.... My bad. I'd still like to know accurate battery stats and see what's his setup is though. I think I realized that my phone may be heating up too quickly because I altered the governor when I don't think I needed to after flashing @psouza4 's fix+debloat zip for my phone.
That puts in debate though, will the 935U make a huge difference in battery life?

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Whoops.... My bad. I'd still like to know accurate battery stats and see what's his setup is though. I think I realized that my phone may be heating up too quickly because I altered the governor when I don't think I needed to after flashing @psouza4 's fix+debloat zip for my phone.
That puts in debate though, will the 935U make a huge difference in battery life?
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Honest mistake, I have no comment on the other things you've mentioned unfortunately as I've decided to wait it out until things get a little more stable with the rooted firmware. First smart phone I've owned where I haven't rooted immediately after an exploit was found. I just need everything to work right now with little intervention on my part lol... smh... it's a sad sad day for me
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I am at work and don't have time at the moment to go over everything at the moment, but when I will write it out and get some screenshots. I ended up with 4hrs 27mins sot last night and had 13% left. I should mention that I leave the brightness on auto, because I imagine that make's a big difference and a lot of people like their screens at max brightness.

I ended up being busy so I don't have time to mention everything tonight but here is some picture proof. It wasn't as good today, I think because I work in the basement of a hospital where the service is bad and I am constantly switching between wifi antenna's. I also realized that Amplify doesn't come pre-setup, so it wasn't doing much of anything. Tonight I set it up so I am anxious to see if it helps. I also bought better battery stats today so I can get some more detailed info. Wednesday I am off and might be able to test it better.
I will also say I have way less lag after switching to U firmware and rooting. Mine was getting pretty bad on stock. I like having more control over what I can freeze again.

My battery drain is about the same before and after root, which is 2 or 3% an hour in standby with AOD on and BT connected to Gear S2. Wifi off unless charging, nearby device scanning off, Android backup off, all of psouza4's tweaks, brightness on auto, etc. Screen-on time generally close to 5 hours if I'm indoors, which I usually am, though I never use it that long without charging it. I looked just now and with 51% charge I have 2h24m SOT and 7h30m powered on. Most of that was light use reading news and stuff.
I might try the U firmware just for fun, not to try and get better battery life.
Overall, basically no change in battery life for me according to the discharge rates (%/hr).

snake2332 said:
My battery drain is about the same before and after root, which is 2 or 3% an hour in standby with AOD on and BT connected to Gear S2. Wifi off unless charging, nearby device scanning off, Android backup off, all of psouza4's tweaks, brightness on auto, etc. Screen-on time generally close to 5 hours if I'm indoors, which I usually am, though I ne TVver use it that long without charging it. I looked just now and with 51% charge I have 2h24m SOT and 7h30m powered on. Most of that was light use reading news and stuff.
I might try the U firmware just for fun, not to try and get better battery life.
Overall, basically no change in battery life for me according to the discharge rates (%/hr).
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Yeah, something isn't cutting out for me being on root. I had much better battery life before easily achieving 1 hour of SOT by 88-90% and 3 hours of SOT by 50%. Something is really draining my phone faster than usual despite all the battery mods I did even on the U firmware.
If only I could be on the U firmware and keep the Advanced Calling and Visual Voicemail. >__>

battery life and performance issues are why I am back to stock after flashing all roms that are out there and still not worth being rooted.. I have been waiting for the better roms to come forward, but not to much support for the Verizon s7 due to the locked bootloader

Debloated S8 battery life

How much battery you get when you debloat S8?
Manage open apps
Start up apps
Black Theme
Blackish Wallpaper
etc etc
basic advance user battery settings
I want to buy S8 but 2 things hold me back.
Drop it (with a good case) and brake the screen.
Battery life after debloating with all the advance user battery tweaks.

I usually charge my phone when it gets to about 40% but the few times I did get down to 15% I was around 6.5 hours to 7 hours SOT; that's with Bluetooth, GPS, quad HD, AOD on at all times. Sync, wifi is off.
This phone is fragile. I have a very protective case on it but no case will protect the phone if you're not cognizant with your phone. Don't drop it.

napster855 said:
How much battery you get when you debloat S8?
Manage open apps
Start up apps
Black Theme
Blackish Wallpaper
etc etc
basic advance user battery settings
I want to buy S8 but 2 things hold me back.
Drop it (with a good case) and brake the screen.
Battery life after debloating with all the advance user battery tweaks.
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Can we debloat without root ?
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I charge my s8 when I gets to 20%, and I didn't use it when charging. usually my phone lasts more than 7 hours with some functions on. I think it works fine with me

well that's terrible battery life.... :/

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well that's terrible battery life.... :/
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No it's not. My S8 keeps up with my 3t. My note 4 had terrible battery life with 3 hours SoT. If you need more, you need another category of phones. All flagships get you between 5 and 8 hours of screen time. How long this is in total useage depends on you. I get two solid days out of my s8.

Much better after debloats.
In Idle (aod off): 3hrs/1%
Idle Aod on: 45min/1%
Facebook/web browseing: about 7min/1%
Screen on but not heavy load: 13min/1%
Easy to pass 8hrs or 9hrs (may be 10) Sot on daily use, this phone battery is really incredible
Ps: I used dual sim so phone radio drain battery little more than normal

thahim said:
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Yes. Package Disabler Pro.

dkido said:
Much better after debloats.
In Idle (aod off): 3hrs/1%
Idle Aod on: 45min/1%
Facebook/web browseing: about 7min/1%
Screen on but not heavy load: 13min/1%
Easy to pass 8hrs or 9hrs (may be 10) Sot on daily use, this phone battery is really incredible
Ps: I used dual sim so phone radio drain battery little more than normal
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Im sorry but 9-10 hours SOT is impossible unless you have samsung s8+ version. With regular this is impossible. 10% per hour with wifi on is almost impossible. How the hell did u managed that - i could get 7 hours maybe 8 tops with movie playback mostly with no internet connection and minimum brightness. and i dont have drains i already disabled thoes bloats

Dreadish said:
Im sorry but 9-10 hours SOT is impossible unless you have samsung s8+ version. With regular this is impossible. 10% per hour with wifi on is almost impossible. How the hell did u managed that - i could get 7 hours maybe 8 tops with movie playback mostly with no internet connection and minimum brightness. and i dont have drains i already disabled thoes bloats
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The true is I am on S8 version. I had the screen shot of 8hrs and 30min SOT and still 20% left. But because tried so much rom, my phone get soft brick, so I had to go back to stock and lost all the data. So you can easily imaging by take a look at the screen shot below

dkido said:
The true is I am on S8 version. I had the screen shot of 8hrs and 30min SOT and still 20% left. But because tried so much rom, my phone get soft brick, so I had to go back to stock and lost all the data. So you can easily imaging by take a look at the screen shot below
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Still i just tested video movie. Wifi, bluettooth off - only cell reception 2 bars .
Brightness set on 20-25% , powersaving middle ON- it took 7-8 minutes for 1 % of battery. This means ONLY under sthoes conditions, screen on time would give 10-11 hours - meaning turn wifi on, brightness on little higher level u get 8 hours then. BUT if you start surfing the web and mixed use, u get 5-6 hours tops!!!!
If you looked under batterylife of thoes screenshots who had 8 hours or so - they didnt use phone much in browsing or video playback - they prolly just had screen on too test and brag about batterylife.!!! Unless they are lying about having regular s8 instead of s8+ wich does have little longer battery life then s8 , despite bigger screen

I debloated most stuff with Package DIsabler.
I get 5 hours SOT... Just as I did prior to debloating.
All things on, nothing important turned off (such as location)

Dreadish said:
Still i just tested video movie. Wifi, bluettooth off - only cell reception 2 bars .
Brightness set on 20-25% , powersaving middle ON- it took 7-8 minutes for 1 % of battery. This means ONLY under sthoes conditions, screen on time would give 10-11 hours - meaning turn wifi on, brightness on little higher level u get 8 hours then. BUT if you start surfing the web and mixed use, u get 5-6 hours tops!!!!
If you looked under batterylife of thoes screenshots who had 8 hours or so - they didnt use phone much in browsing or video playback - they prolly just had screen on too test and brag about batterylife.!!! Unless they are lying about having regular s8 instead of s8+ wich does have little longer battery life then s8 , despite bigger screen
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All things I did is browsing mate, facebook. Plus 15mins of videos calling by Line everyday(and Line eat battery so badly ^^). So it is true, daily uses, wifi is always on, brightness is auto. I love AOD feature, this is why I tried so many Roms/kernel to make it longer

thenessus said:
I debloated most stuff with Package DIsabler.
I get 5 hours SOT... Just as I did prior to debloating.
All things on, nothing important turned off (such as location)
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Can I see your debloat list, may be I can suggest more. But normally, by this way I dont think there is much changes effected

dkido said:
Can I see your debloat list, may be I can suggest more. But normally, by this way I dont think there is much changes effected
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Thank you for posting XML- ill try it out in bk disable pro. How is your phone working with all of this disabled? any hickups? Did you checked all thoes disabled apps that are ok to disable, so it wont hurt system too maintain device?
Also after u disabled this, how much system ram u have available in background AFTER u close all aplications in multitab.
U said 5 hours SOT - i do get more then that when not using wifi much and more of video playback - i did notest also that if you disable a lotmof bloatware, dosent improved battery life much.
But Dkido guy above, i guess you did managed too get this cause of you using DIFFERENT ROM. maybe this is the case here?!

Dreadish said:
Thank you for posting XML- ill try it out in bk disable pro. How is your phone working with all of this disabled? any hickups? Did you checked all thoes disabled apps that are ok to disable, so it wont hurt system too maintain device?
Also after u disabled this, how much system ram u have available in background AFTER u close all aplications in multitab.
U said 5 hours SOT - i do get more then that when not using wifi much and more of video playback - i did notest also that if you disable a lotmof bloatware, dosent improved battery life much.
But Dkido guy above, i guess you did managed too get this cause of you using DIFFERENT ROM. maybe this is the case here?!
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I am now on stock rom mate. I got best result on stock, rooted

dkido said:
I am now on stock rom mate. I got best result on stock, rooted
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Rooted? what did you did that u got less drain then me for example, when browsing net and so on?

dkido said:
Much better after debloats.
In Idle (aod off): 3hrs/1%
Idle Aod on: 45min/1%
Facebook/web browseing: about 7min/1%
Screen on but not heavy load: 13min/1%
Easy to pass 8hrs or 9hrs (may be 10) Sot on daily use, this phone battery is really incredible
Ps: I used dual sim so phone radio drain battery little more than normal
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can you give me a list of all your disabled apps

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Sure
Attached
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Yah, it will a little more time to consider all. Maybe in next morning I will write more. But as fast review I findout a little bit. For example you want to disable Samsung location, you should disable 4 package:
+ app/slocation
+ priv-app/radiolocationservice
+ priv-app/radiolocationmanager
+ priv-app/samsunglocationsdk (sorry if i dont remember exactly the name)

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the HTC U11+ before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

XDA_RealLifeReview said:
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the HTC U11+ before depleting the battery.
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Battery life is great.
25 hours so far - 7 hours and counting screen on time
-- Browsing, news apps
-- Settings tweaks
-- WordsWF
-- YouTube
-- Wi-Fi on
-- Bluetooth on
-- Amazon Music
-- Auto brightness
(Full disclosure: 15 min./~5 % juice before I pulled the charger to do this test)

I get between 4 and 8 hours SOT, depending on usage. If I am a lot on the road, using LTE, then I get an SOT of around 4 hours (above it). If I am on WiFi, then it gets or exceeds 8 hours SOT. With a mixed usage I get around 5-6 hours.

I'm not getting as much sot as in was with the normal U11 having said that I've only had the device for 2days so see how it goes...
Sent from my HTC U11 plus using Tapatalk

wakers said:
I'm not getting as much sot as in was with the normal U11 having said that I've only had the device for 2days so see how it goes...
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Remember to disable News Republic and disable background data for Facebook. This helps a lot and gives your device at least 1 hour SOT more.

Using 70% auto brightness, I get around 5 hours SOT over 24 hours on 4g/LTE nothing special

Galactus said:
Using 70% auto brightness, I get around 5 hours SOT over 24 hours on 4g/LTE nothing special
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On Wi-Fi it is much better. Expect 7-8 hours SOT

With the battery size i was expecting similar results to the mate 10 and mate 10 pro but looks like its not the case

Standby time is terrible, have disable the always on display, wifi, removed news republic and more bloatware included by htc and in 8h lost around 15% battery.

Terrible? No not here. This battery is great. I have problems getting it empty. And I use my phone a lot. Aod is on by contact. Auto brightness, wifi on.

Quantumlogic said:
Terrible? No not here. This battery is great. I have problems getting it empty. And I use my phone a lot. Aod is on by contact. Auto brightness, wifi on.
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which OS version are you on? is it the Taiwan model?

Any other tips for battery life, I'm getting around 5h SOT that's with auto brightness off and brightness set to around 40% or lower, disabled background data for fb, insta etc..., Bluetooth scanning off, wifi on, disabled news republic and other bloatware.
Have to say I was expecting more so bit disappointed.

Phil750123 said:
Any other tips for battery life, I'm getting around 5h SOT that's with auto brightness off and brightness set to around 40% or lower, disabled background data for fb, insta etc..., Bluetooth scanning off, wifi on, disabled news republic and other bloatware.
Have to say I was expecting more so bit disappointed.
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Oddly enough, my battery has improved by not disabling everything I do not use. I have uninstalled/disabled apps I do not use, but I have not touched background data or run in background settings at all.
On 4G battery could be better but on WI-FI I am satisfied. 1.5 days usage or 2 days days if its light usage. I did factory reset though and I still think the software can be optimised more.

ferdzso said:
which OS version are you on? is it the Taiwan model?
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Nope European..
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Galactus said:
Oddly enough, my battery has improved by not disabling everything I do not use. I have uninstalled/disabled apps I do not use, but I have not touched background data or run in background settings at all.
On 4G battery could be better but on WI-FI I am satisfied. 1.5 days usage or 2 days days if its light usage. I did factory reset though and I still think the software can be optimised more.
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I do the same and it's working.

Quantumlogic said:
Terrible? No not here. This battery is great. I have problems getting it empty. And I use my phone a lot. Aod is on by contact. Auto brightness, wifi on.
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I have fixed the drain problem, it was a sense theme, after cleaning the cache the problem was gone.

mast3rchi3f said:
I have fixed the drain problem, it was a sense theme, after cleaning the cache the problem was gone.
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Good to hear!

mast3rchi3f said:
I have fixed the drain problem, it was a sense theme, after cleaning the cache the problem was gone.
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what exactly was the issue? which cache did you clean? just the app, or phone cache in recovery? how did the drain appear, under cell standby drain?

mast3rchi3f said:
I have fixed the drain problem, it was a sense theme, after cleaning the cache the problem was gone.
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How do you know it was the theme. Please explain

After cleaning cache and data from home sense, my battery improved alot. Home sense was using around 29% (805mah), changed for Nova launcher and it was the same. The only thing common on both was a theme for navbar.

In developer options I have turned off always on mobile data as it appears to be an Oreo default. I've noticed a difference with that.

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

10+ hours SoT (12 or so full battery) on 60hz mostly browsing chrome, average brightness. I don't do 120hz, period, only reason I'd use it is if a phone didn't have any lower option. I think 120hz looks weird so there's no reason for me personally to waste the battery for it.
Not sure how 120hz would work out
Edit: now getting 12-14 hours SoT 100-0 after having the phone for over a week

AerationCheese said:
10+ hours SoT (12 or so full battery) on 60hz mostly browsing chrome, average brightness. I don't do 120hz, period, only reason I'd use it is if a phone didn't have any lower option. I think 120hz looks weird so there's no reason for me personally to waste the battery for it.
Not sure how 120hz would work out
Edit: now getting 12-14 hours SoT 100-0 after having the phone for over a week
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Hi there. May I ask how you are getting 10+ hours of SoT? Were there some settings you adjusted to achieve such phenomenal SoT? I'm losing a lot of battery even when I don't use it.
I use 60Hz refresh rate as well, browse chrome, and low brightness as well. Heck, I don't have any social media apps refreshing in the background, only mail and messaging apps occasionally giving me notifications.
Thanks.

golddragon97 said:
Hi there. May I ask how you are getting 10+ hours of SoT? Were there some settings you adjusted to achieve such phenomenal SoT? I'm losing a lot of battery even when I don't use it.
I use 60Hz refresh rate as well, browse chrome, and low brightness as well. Heck, I don't have any social media apps refreshing in the background, only mail and messaging apps occasionally giving me notifications.
Thanks.
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Well I use 60hz and battery saver is on pretty much all the time. (don't use ultra battery saver though, it basically just breaks your phone and messes up settings)
Don't turn the brightness up higher than you need it. Use wifi whenever possible. Turn location/Bluetooth off when not in use.
Not sure of anything else that helps.

AerationCheese said:
Well I use 60hz and battery saver is on pretty much all the time. (don't use ultra battery saver though, it basically just breaks your phone and messes up settings)
Don't turn the brightness up higher than you need it. Use wifi whenever possible. Turn location/Bluetooth off when not in use.
Not sure of anything else that helps.
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Thanks for the tips.
I used to have battery saver on, but it seems like it bogs down notifications, or maybe it was because I didn't set permissions for every app. I have discussed this in another thread, but anyway, I should use power saver again now that I have all the permissions and data settings out of the way.
Brightness is always as low as possible. I work in an office or at home, and with the virus still hanging around, I haven't been outside for recreation using the camera/GPS, etc.
At least I know you didn't have to work something complicated out. Thanks again.
Wait, your SoT is in one day, right?

golddragon97 said:
Thanks for the tips.
I used to have battery saver on, but it seems like it bogs down notifications, or maybe it was because I didn't set permissions for every app. I have discussed this in another thread, but anyway, I should use power saver again now that I have all the permissions and data settings out of the way.
Brightness is always as low as possible. I work in an office or at home, and with the virus still hanging around, I haven't been outside for recreation using the camera/GPS, etc.
At least I know you didn't have to work something complicated out. Thanks again.
Wait, your SoT is in one day, right?
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Yeah I recharge it once a day. I use my phone a LOT. Idle drain when I sleep is very low. 2-3% overnight

AerationCheese said:
Yeah I recharge it once a day. I use my phone a LOT. Idle drain when I sleep is very low. 2-3% overnight
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Oh ok. I'm a bit different because I use my phone maybe about three hours tops everyday.
Interesting because I observed my phone for the past two nights and it's been draining about 6% overnight, around 6 hours sleep time. This is the biggest battery I've ever had on a phone, so losing 6% makes me wonder if I haven't set something up correctly.

golddragon97 said:
Oh ok. I'm a bit different because I use my phone maybe about three hours tops everyday.
Interesting because I observed my phone for the past two nights and it's been draining about 6% overnight, around 6 hours sleep time. This is the biggest battery I've ever had on a phone, so losing 6% makes me wonder if I haven't set something up correctly.
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It might just be the different apps we use. Different apps will use more power during different use scenarios, 6% overnight isn't TOO bad but it could be lower. Do you have the option on that turns off power draining features when it detects you're asleep? It's somewhere deep in battery saver settings.

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It might just be the different apps we use. Different apps will use more power during different use scenarios, 6% overnight isn't TOO bad but it could be lower. Do you have the option on that turns off power draining features when it detects you're asleep? It's somewhere deep in battery saver settings.
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Yeah, different apps for sure. I don't use anything like Instagram/Snapchat, or whatever people use nowadays. My Mate 10 Pro I've upgraded from stays at the same battery level overnight as when it was taken off the charger when new. Two/three years down the line with some battery degradation, it only drains 2-3% every night, so that's why I was so confused.
I think I know what you're talking about. The sleep detection feature doesn't make a difference. The only difference it has is it doesn't refresh notifications while draining the same amount of battery. I think I might need to dig into the settings a bit more or just take it. The drain isn't all that bad, but may take some time to get used to. I should probably try and do a factory reset or something.

Have you disabled and uninstalled all of the unnecessary junk apps using that Xiaomi adb tool?

I'm using Mi 10 Ultra @ 120Hz and getting 7 hrs SoT + 12 hrs Standby and left with 1%. 6hrs SoT + 10:51 Standby @ 20% left. Heavy use of Facebook and Messenger. Light use of Chrome, Youtube, etc. Google Photos backup turned on. Overnight drain is usually around 5% for me.

Active
5 hrs 41 mins
Standby
4 hrs 12 mins
With 18% left
Does this look any good?
I'm not blown away by the battery life but I guess it's better than what my s20 or even the note 20 ultra was

60 hz vs 120 hz.
Only WiFi, auto brightness, social media apps, few pictures.
Generally it's a decent battery for 120 hz, csn make a hole day without worries.

Battery saver seems to give me an extra 20-30% SoT without noticeably impacting my experience beyond the fact that it disables Gmail sync. 8-10 hours without it, 10-14 with.

Do you guys debloat stuff?
i have no luck with Xiaomi and always have poor battery.

Greenify helps. I don't need to charge every day as my phone turns off at midnight and on at 7am.
It's two batteries not one and they are coated in graphene so I expect longevity!
Early signs are good but when this is rooted with lspeed and Greenify it'll be superb.
Greenify does sleep system apps without root though
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sirTAVARES said:
Do you guys debloat stuff?
i have no luck with Xiaomi and always have poor battery.
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I've come from a Mi9 which when rooted with a custom kernel and ROM lasted a couple days of moderate use.
Xiaomi bloat is annoying but the hardware is brilliant. You really should explore unlocking that true potential if you don't...

They're not really coated in graphene, they use a graphene electrode. The benefits of graphene electrodes aren't super clear beyond the fact that they're 1000x more conductive than the typical electrode material used in lithium ion batteries. That means less heat when charging and discharging but it's hard to say what else. Supposedly 800+ cycles for minor capacity degradation to set in, instead of the 300-500 for typical batteries, but that's a claim made by xiaomi not necessarily one that's been scientifically proven on this battery or other phones yet. I'm sure it's better than normal batteries but how much better and in what ways isn't clear yet.

ToneLa said:
Greenify helps. I don't need to charge every day as my phone turns off at midnight and on at 7am.
It's two batteries not one and they are coated in graphene so I expect longevity!
Early signs are good but when this is rooted with lspeed and Greenify it'll be superb.
Greenify does sleep system apps without root though
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I've come from a Mi9 which when rooted with a custom kernel and ROM lasted a couple days of moderate use.
Xiaomi bloat is annoying but the hardware is brilliant. You really should explore unlocking that true potential if you don't...
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im aware of it

sirTAVARES said:
im aware of it
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So what's your next step?

My battery life has gotten much worse lately and I'm not sure why exactly. Down to 6-7 hours SoT from 10+ easily before. It happened around the same time I installed accubattery, but I uninstalled it a few hours later so I doubt it's that unless it somehow changed a system setting.