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[Q] What charger specification is best for Lg G2?

hello;
i have just bought LG G2 (F320L), i have noticed that if i charge the phone with a charger having 1amp output specification it charges rapidly.
So the question is that what charger output specifuication is best for Lg G2 which may charge the phone rapidly but does not damage the battery.

U can use a 16a charger if u want. The charging circuits in the phone handles the input so max the phone will use is 1.6a. It's li-po cells the phone has som advance circuits handling the balance charging of the cells. Recommended is 2a charger but don't forget the cable.
If u use a chappy cheap cable it won't go above 0,3a use a premium and u whill have a 1.6a charge. 1a is to little and to slow.
The phone handles the power to optimize the charging so don't be afraid to use a powerful charger just make sure it's 5v and above 1.6a. If u bye a 1.6 the charger itself will be on max load and generate a lot of heat with could damage the charger and the phone so go with 2a and a premium cable

I'm pretty sure the post above's first reference was meant to say 1.6A and not 16a (the second reference was corrected). 16A wouldn't necessarily hurt the phone actually since current aka amperage is pulled and not pushed - the device would still only take what it needs as long as the 5VDC is solid.
Anyway, enough rudimentary electronics and electrical theory...
Any modern USB wall charger will work with the G2 without issues, obviously if you can get and use one that provides a higher level of amperage/current it will charge the G2 faster up to about 1.6A as mentioned above. The factory charger included with G2 smartphones is designed to provide 1.8A but the G2 won't necessarily pull that much - the .2A is a little headroom and the charger doesn't "stress" as much to provide the 1.6A.
Lower amperage/current chargers just mean it takes longer to charge the G2, basically. As it has a 3,000 mAh (that's 3A for the record) that basically means with a 1.6A charger attached and the device powered off and charging exclusively you'll get a full charge in just under 2 hours from a near-empty state - if there's a charge on it already then it'll charge at roughly 1% every 2-3 minutes, maybe a touch more if the G2 is powered on and charging.
Either way, again, any modern charger will be fine. Try to get at least a 1A model from whoever, and avoid really cheap ones that can't do 1A minimum. If it's a brand name charger (Apple, Samsung, LG, Motorola, BlackBerry, etc) you'll be fine.

maydayind said:
U can use a 16a charger if u want. The charging circuits in the phone handles the input so max the phone will use is 1.6a. It's li-po cells the phone has som advance circuits handling the balance charging of the cells. Recommended is 2a charger but don't forget the cable.
If u use a chappy cheap cable it won't go above 0,3a use a premium and u whill have a 1.6a charge. 1a is to little and to slow.
The phone handles the power to optimize the charging so don't be afraid to use a powerful charger just make sure it's 5v and above 1.6a. If u bye a 1.6 the charger itself will be on max load and generate a lot of heat with could damage the charger and the phone so go with 2a and a premium cable
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thank u for quick reply...
br0adband said:
I'm pretty sure the post above's first reference was meant to say 1.6A and not 16a (the second reference was corrected). 16A wouldn't necessarily hurt the phone actually since current aka amperage is pulled and not pushed - the device would still only take what it needs as long as the 5VDC is solid.
Anyway, enough rudimentary electronics and electrical theory...
Any modern USB wall charger will work with the G2 without issues, obviously if you can get and use one that provides a higher level of amperage/current it will charge the G2 faster up to about 1.6A as mentioned above. The factory charger included with G2 smartphones is designed to provide 1.8A but the G2 won't necessarily pull that much - the .2A is a little headroom and the charger doesn't "stress" as much to provide the 1.6A.
Lower amperage/current chargers just mean it takes longer to charge the G2, basically. As it has a 3,000 mAh (that's 3A for the record) that basically means with a 1.6A charger attached and the device powered off and charging exclusively you'll get a full charge in just under 2 hours from a near-empty state - if there's a charge on it already then it'll charge at roughly 1% every 2-3 minutes, maybe a touch more if the G2 is powered on and charging.
Either way, again, any modern charger will be fine. Try to get at least a 1A model from whoever, and avoid really cheap ones that can't do 1A minimum. If it's a brand name charger (Apple, Samsung, LG, Motorola, BlackBerry, etc) you'll be fine.
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thank u for making it clear,
is there any way to measure output of any charger?
i know its not related here but just for fun.:laugh:
currently i am charging my G2 with 1A charger but it takes so long to reach 100% charge, may be about more than 4 hours.

Actually I meant 16a.... Just get a 2a charger and not a cheap one.. Expect to pay 20$

maydayind said:
Actually I meant 16a.... Just get a 2a charger and not a cheap one.. Expect to pay 20$
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hmm.. u are right.
one should go for original branded charger not chinese one..:laugh:

askfriends said:
hmm.. u are right.
one should go for original branded charger not chinese one..:laugh:
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Once I ordered a 2a charger from China.. Output was 200mah and it almost melted. 2$
U can measure how mouth the charger provide.
Easy way is to use a app in you phone. But not 100% accurate.
Hard and accurate way is to use a USB extender cable that u cut the + cable and use a ampere meter. But u have to use a high end cable for that and u don't want to cut a perfect god cable in half
So I recommend this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget

maydayind said:
Once I ordered a 2a charger from China.. Output was 200mah and it almost melted. 2$
U can measure how mouth the charger provide.
Easy way is to use a app in you phone. But not 100% accurate.
Hard and accurate way is to use a USB extender cable that u cut the + cable and use a ampere meter. But u have to use a high end cable for that and u don't want to cut a perfect god cable in half
So I recommend this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
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thank u so much for this tip, i am going to test it now..

Why Anker charger and Nekteck Type C to Type A cable only charging at 1550mA max?

I have the Anker PowerPort 2 that has a max of 2.4 amps per port and a Nekteck USB Type C to Type A cable (that's tested and approved by Benson). When trying to charge, the max mA that I've seen is around 1550mA.
Why is that? I was expecting around the max of ~2400,mA

I actually ordered this exact combo on Amazon, curious to test it myself.
Are you using Ampere to measure? If so, before plugging in the cable, you need to note the discharging rate (some negative mA). Then plug in the phone and note the charging rate. You have to add the two numbers together to get the actual amperage from the charger because Ampere can only measure the overall system in/out amperage. So if you were doing something really intensive and plugged into a slow charger, you may see it say "Charging" but have a negative number!

BillyTheRatKing said:
I actually ordered this exact combo on Amazon, curious to test it myself.
Are you using Ampere to measure? If so, before plugging in the cable, you need to note the discharging rate (some negative mA). Then plug in the phone and note the charging rate. You have to add the two numbers together to get the actual amperage from the charger because Ampere can only measure the overall system in/out amperage. So if you were doing something really intensive and plugged into a slow charger, you may see it say "Charging" but have a negative number!
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I forgot to mention that stuff! Yes, I am using Ampere and discharge is around -150 to -300mA. The average discharge rate and average charge rate added together (around ~1800mA) still comes up quite a bit short. Hope the combo works out for you. Or at least confirm my findings.

trama09 said:
I forgot to mention that stuff! Yes, I am using Ampere and discharge is around -150 to -300mA. The average discharge rate and average charge rate added together (around ~1800mA) still comes up quite a bit short. Hope the combo works out for you. Or at least confirm my findings.
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Huh... I wish that Google engineer would clarify things. Myself and others have been discussing the Type-C spec over here and the documents seem to indicate that a Type-A to Type-C cable that has the proper identifying resistor would be limited to drawing 1.5A. I'm hoping I'm wrong.
Also, try measuring the discharge for a minute or two. I've seen mine settle in around -1000mA if I let it sit awhile. But then, I don't know if that's accurate...

Man, this is such a mess. I got an Aukey 12W / 2.4A Home Travel USB Wall Charger just to see if it there was something wrong with the Anker charger. Nope. The Aukey floats around 1600mA too...
For good measure, I used the supplised USB Type-C to USB A cable - same charge rate. Then I used the charger and C to C - that floats around 2700mA.
Are there any 2.4A chargers that actually charge at that rate?!?!

The USB standard for an in spec Type A to C cable will charge at 1.5A. Only a type C-C will charge at up to 3A. Please Google/search the forum next time before creating an OP. It doesn't matter if you use a Type A to C cable with a 5V. 4A charger it will only give you 1.5A by the USB charging standard. If you use a C-C cable you can get the Max rate

Pilz said:
The USB standard for an in spec Type A to C cable will charge at 1.5A. Only a type C-C will charge at up to 3A. Please Google/search the forum next time before creating an OP. It doesn't matter if you use a Type A to C cable with a 5V. 4A charger it will only give you 1.5A by the USB charging standard. If you use a C-C cable you can get the Max rate
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Hey, good idea.
So for Benson's review of the cable, he says, "...you should be able to charge from a range of .5A to 2.4A using this cable." I guess he should've been the one to "please Google/search the forum."

trama09 said:
Hey, good idea.
So for Benson's review of the cable, he says, "...you should be able to charge from a range of .5A to 2.4A using this cable." I guess he should've been the one to "please Google/search the forum."
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Yes but he goes on to say in other reviews that the USB A-C standard dictates the output of the cable.
As discussed thoroughly in 2 different OP's which you can find below.
Here is a quote from @Elnrik
"No, when I say proprietary protocols, I mean protocols. Not physical wiring. As in "2.4A, which is negotiated over a BC1.2 protocol like CDP or DCP, is appropriate over the Type-A connector." and "By the way, the maximum current of 1.5A is defined by the BC1.2 specification for CDP and DCP, but in practice, a range of other current values are possible using Apple's proprietary protocol or other protocols that bump up the defacto maximum current with a Type A connector on one end up to 2.4A". ~ Benson Leung. The evidence of 2.4A charging on compliant cables is out there, I invite you to google it for yourself. Unless you wish to continue to willfully ignore that. Up to you."
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Please direct yourself to these OP's and read through them so you understand where I am coming from.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/usb-type-c-cables-reviewed-google-t3240861
2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/benson-leung-verified-usb-c-cables-t3245685

I have the Aukey 2.4Amp charger. I use the OnePlus cable.
If you use one of the OnePlus cables or adapters you get the 2.4A.
Yea, I know not certified, etc........

tech_head said:
I have the Aukey 2.4Amp charger. I use the OnePlus cable.
If you use one of the OnePlus cables or adapters you get the 2.4A.
Yea, I know not certified, etc........
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Well you can risk damaging your phone charger or cable that way. There are plenty of certified cables out there to use at 1.5A. If you don't like that then get another Type-C charger and c-c cable.

tech_head said:
I have the Aukey 2.4Amp charger. I use the OnePlus cable.
If you use one of the OnePlus cables or adapters you get the 2.4A.
Yea, I know not certified, etc........
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Yeah, I had a couple OnePlus cables early on - weeks before I had the 6P. When I saw that they weren't certified and could do damage, I stopped using them right away. Wasted ~$8 unfortunately.
Pilz said:
Well you can risk damaging your phone charger or cable that way. There are plenty of certified cables out there to use at 1.5A. If you don't like that then get another Type-C wall charger and c-c cable.
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Waiting for (more) legit reviews for quality Type-C chargers. Should be soon.

Pilz said:
Well you can risk damaging your phone charger or cable that way. There are plenty of certified cables out there to use at 1.5A. If you don't like that then get another Type-C charger and c-c cable.
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The charger is rated for 2.4A.
Unless you have a crap charger it's got current limiting circuitry. Not likely ro damage it using it for its rated output.
I doubt I'll burn the cable up.
I have a MSEE so I know how power supplies and cables work.
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tech_head said:
The charger is rated for 2.4A.
Unless you have a crap charger it's got current limiting circuitry. Not likely ro damage it using it for its rated output.
I doubt I'll burn the cable up.
I have a MSEE so I know how power supplies and cables work.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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The point I have been making is that the resistor in the Op cable is incorrect. This means the phone will attempt to pull 3A even though the charger/cable aren't rated for it. This would clearly cause an issue. I haven't seen any out of spec cable hold a 3A rating with the correct resistors and actually deliver it from a A-C cable. I'm nor saying your wrong I'm simply stating that this has been brought up by many people who are just as qualified. I've taken some EE course myself being an engineering student an all, but this doesn't mean I know enough to make a 100% correct assessment of the cable/charger situation. If it wasn't an issue we would see reports of chargers burning out so there is an issue somewhere
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Yeah, I had a couple OnePlus cables early on - weeks before I had the 6P. When I saw that they weren't certified and could do damage, I stopped using them right away. Wasted ~$8 unfortunately.
Waiting for (more) legit reviews for quality Type-C chargers. Should be soon.
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The Choetech was reported to deliver the specified 3A about an hour ago in the accessories subforum. You can check there with the member who has it under the 'type c chargers' OP

Turbo?

In a review site someone claiming confidently that the G4P does support turbo charging despite no mention of this in specs. Does anyone have the G4P and a turbo charger can do a test?

nigelhealy said:
...despite no mention of this in specs....
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Well, I don't think Motorola really advertised "Turbo" charging for G4 Play.
They advertised something else. Here's what it says on their site:
Moto G Play works with the 10W rapid charger (charger in-box), which gives you 5 hours of battery life in just 15 minutes of charging.
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Source: http://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-play#battery

carefully said:
Well, I don't think Motorola really advertised "Turbo" charging for G4 Play.
They advertised something else. Here's what it says on their site:
Source: http://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-play#battery
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So the charger supplied says 5V and 0.5A which doesn't look like a fast charger.

nigelhealy said:
So the charger supplied says 5V and 0.5A which doesn't look like a fast charger.
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My supplied charger clearly says OUTPUT: 5.2V===2.0A
Exhibit A is attached

It does not support quickcharger, that works with 9v and 12v i already tried, but the supplied charger charges at 2.0 A. which is fast.

carefully said:
My supplied charger clearly says OUTPUT: 5.2V===2.0A
Exhibit A is attached
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I am in the USA and bought the USA version XT1607.
The charger looks different it says 5V 0.5A.

nigelhealy said:
I am in the USA and bought the USA version XT1607.
The charger looks different it says 5V 0.5A.
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Same here, both the Amazon and the non-Amazon version I bought had the 550mAh chargers.

hooverbw said:
Same here, both the Amazon and the non-Amazon version I bought had the 550mAh chargers.
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The fact they package with a low spec charger in a $150 box is not a concern. I own dual and quad chargers I carry for phone tablet BT etc.
The question is a specific charger able to charge faster? I looked at the one supplied and it seemed to imply a 5V input then as much Amp as phone can take, which is usually about 1-1.5A til 85%.
Turbo, is I think like QC, it increases the voltage at low battery charge, such a charger would show say 12V or 9V output.

Is there any good charging app to watch what the phone is doing? I have iSmart, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 devices I can test on.

hooverbw said:
Is there any good charging app to watch what the phone is doing? I have iSmart, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 devices I can test on.
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The way I find best is to not use the phone and use a stopwatch and measure at 15m intervals.
It does take days to be ready with a low charge condition.
App I have used is Ampere but I find it unreliable as the act of using the phone means heat throttling down the charging speed, if you don't use the phone then Ampere sleeps and doesn't monitor.

From what I understand, it does support it but you have to buy an additional charger.
It definitely does some kind of fast charging because my Anker Powercore+ 10,050mAh power block charges it incredibly fast. I don't know what other charging methods the Anker does beyond qc2.0 since I have had the Anker less than 12 hours.
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If this behaves like osprey (which I expect - I haven't yet examined the kernel), the hardware doesn't support the Qualcomm high voltage quick charging, but it does support regular charging up to 800 mA. The weak 550 mA charger bundled with the North American variants will not make the most of it, but a 1A charger or better should get full charging performance.

squid2 said:
...but it does support regular charging up to 800 mA...
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So does this mean the 2.0 A bundled chargers are bottlenecked, like they support 2.0 A and the phone supports only till 800 mA...am I thinking correct?

My XT1607 US unlocked retail version came with a 5V 550mA labeled charge plug. I used a cable and power plug from another device that rated at 5.2V and 1.35A and it drew about 1.4A from it. Then I dug out another USB adapter rated 5.3V, 2A . It consumed 1.78A and it was 80% charged at the time. That would make for some much faster charging than the original plug. Wouldn't matter much if you just plug it in overnight to charge.

Anyone confirm if the it supports QC 2.0? Only thing wrong e phone is slow charge from supplied.
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I have used the turbo charger supplied with Moto G3 Turbo and it charges much faster than the one supplied in box. So yes it supports turbocharging but you need to get the charger elsewhere.

MaanasDwivedi said:
I have used the turbo charger supplied with Moto G3 Turbo and it charges much faster than the one supplied in box. So yes it supports turbocharging but you need to get the charger elsewhere.
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Logic fail. The supplied charge is feeble like 0.5A so anything like 1A or 2A is better.
That does NOT mean turbo is supported.

When I plug my G4 Play into my Anker 4 port power supply and then into a kilowatt meter, it draws 10 watts. If we work it backwards, that's 5v and 2 amps (however, need to account for line loss, transformer loss and other losses). A watt is a watt, doesn't matter what the voltage or amperage is, as W = V x A.
This phone charges much quicker than my old Moto G second gen, which would take close to 2 hours to fully recharge. I have had this phone recharge in as little as an hour from around 30%. It's a shame that the SD 410 chip supports QC 2.0 but Motorola didn't enable it. It seems to have QC 1.0 (which is the 10 watt, 5v @ 2amp rating).

brian10161 said:
When I plug my G4 Play into my Anker 4 port power supply and then into a kilowatt meter, it draws 10 watts. If we work it backwards, that's 5v and 2 amps (however, need to account for line loss, transformer loss and other losses). A watt is a watt, doesn't matter what the voltage or amperage is, as W = V x A.
This phone charges much quicker than my old Moto G second gen, which would take close to 2 hours to fully recharge. I have had this phone recharge in as little as an hour from around 30%. It's a shame that the SD 410 chip supports QC 2.0 but Motorola didn't enable it. It seems to have QC 1.0 (which is the 10 watt, 5v @ 2amp rating).
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Regular USB is 2A 5V 10W.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
Standard USB 2.0 is 500mA
USB 3.0 is 900mA
There is a new subset standard called USB power delivery, it's used for newer devices.
Quick charge 1.0 was 2 amp at 5v.
There's a little more info here. https://www.easyacc.com/media-center/quick-charge-3-0-vs-2-0-vs-1-0/
These phones charging at 2 amps is technically quick charge, whether it's the 1.0 revision or not is really down to licensing and stuff. They don't charge at 2.0 speeds unfortunately. Even though the chipset supports it.

Is there a power bank that will charge at 25w?

Wondering if there is a power bank that will charge at 25w same as bundled charger. Thanks guys.

Not yet. I assume samsung will make one someday.

It doesn't have to be Samsung.

you been WARNED. i bought a aftermarket 45w home charger and 45w powerbank.
the stock samsung 25w charger shows it charges faster.
unless the charger listed as pps support, otherwise save your money.

Yeah I bought an Naztech 45 Watt Pd charger for my switch. I tried it on my N1O+ with the samsung OEM cable and it reported approximately 15 mins longer charge time than the samsung 25 watt brick.

netnerd said:
you been WARNED. i bought a aftermarket 45w home charger and 45w powerbank.
the stock samsung 25w charger shows it charges faster.
unless the charger listed as pps support, otherwise save your money.
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he is only seeking 25w not 45, there should be options

noobandroid said:
he is only seeking 25w not 45, there should be options
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25w charger uses the same custom PPS configurations as well.
Don't think there are any 3rd party chargers on the market that can do either 25 or 45w for the samsung just yet.
But samsung phones are popular, and this isn't proprietary tech. I bet china will be churning out compatible ones within a few months.

Havent found one yet but am also interested. I don't need the life shortening 45 watt charging to my battery.

3rd party 45W charger - Baseus 65W GaN Mini Quick Charge US

Just got this on our country's local online shopping site (shopee) for about $27 (discounted and with free c-c cable). It's actually 65W and has two USB Type-C ports and one USB-A port. The first USB-C port supports up to 65W and I mainly use it for my laptop. However, I just discovered that it actually charges my Note10+ on 45W. The second USB-C port supports up to 30W and it charges the phone at 25W. Lastly, the USB-A also supports up to 30W but it only charges the phone at 18W.
Many have asked how I knew the power output on each ports when used on the Note10+, well a few months back, Samsung added the feature on one of their updates to display different labels when charging.
On 45W charging, the phone displays Super Fast Charging 2.0;
on 25W charging, the phone displays Super Fast Charging;
on 15-18W charging, the phone displays Fast Charging;
and on 10W charging, the phone displays Cable Charging.
So there you have it, if you're looking for 3rd party 45W chargers, I suggest you check this one out as well.
I also am not sure if xda allows me to link where I got this but I'll just do it anyway. To the mods, please remove the link if necessary.
https://shopee.ph/product/131196305/5404683463?smtt=0.0.9
This is the Baseus 65W GaN Mini Quick Charge US
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Just got this on our country's local online shopping site (shopee) for about $27 (discounted and with free c-c cable). It's actually 65W and has two USB Type-C ports and one USB-A port. The first USB-C port supports up to 65W and I mainly use it for my laptop. However, I just discovered that it actually charges my Note10+ on 45W. The second USB-C port supports up to 30W and it charges the phone at 25W. Lastly, the USB-A also supports up to 30W but it only charges the phone at 18W.
So there you have it, if you're looking for 3rd party 45W chargers, I suggest you check this one out as well.
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Cant see the pics can you share the link?
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Cant see the pics can you share the link?
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Original post updated.
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Hi, how do you know what wattage you are getting with each cable?

im using baseus GaN 65W + type C to type C 100W from baseus and the 45w work properly

Nice find! It's available on Amazon in the US for roughly the same price as your link.

DevilzGtr said:
Hi, how do you know what wattage you are getting with each cable?
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The later firmware of the note 10+ has different indicators when charging. On 15-18W charging the phone will display "Fast Charging", on 25W it will display "Super Fast Charging", lastly on 45W charging the phone will display "Super Fast Charging 2.0"
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annson08 said:
The later firmware of the note 10+ has different indicators when charging. On 15-18W charging the phone will display "Fast Charging", on 25W it will display "Super Fast Charging", lastly on 45W charging the phone will display "Super Fast Charging 2.0"
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Explained perfectly. I was very surprised when I saw "super fast 2.0" on my note 10+

I bought one of these chargers:
https://www.giztop.com/baseus-120w-2c1a-gan-charger.html
Due to it's 87-watt output of the Type C port, I use it to charge the Note 10 Plus in full-speed, as well as to charge my laptop, which can be charged through the Type C port.
Even if I use both Type C ports at the same time, the quality and speed of charging does not decrease either in mobile phone or laptop, which is one of the strengths of this charger.
It is compact and has a very high quality.

I have bought several Baseus products, even 2 protective cases, without exception, all have been of a very good quality, and, reasonably priced

15W charger charges in 80min
25W charges in 65min
45W charges in 56min

Are there any drawbacks with those new GaN chargers? I mean, if they aren't becoming the norm, there may be any. Are they less durable? Maybe they produce more toxic waste?

annson08 said:
The later firmware of the note 10+ has different indicators when charging. On 15-18W charging the phone will display "Fast Charging", on 25W it will display "Super Fast Charging", lastly on 45W charging the phone will display "Super Fast Charging 2.0"
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Original firmware, still running Pie, will indicate "fast charging" with the 25 w brick.
Really that's all you need or want. Stock ones with cable go for $20 stateside. My original one is still charging away even after heavy use.
One other plus for the stock charger is it will charge even at 60 VAC. I inadvertently tested that when we lost one leg of electric power overnight. Didn't phase the brick one bit... and it continued charging.
Update, got a new N10+ running on Q. With the same 25w brick, Q shows it to be "super charging". Sounds faster

Doesn't faster charging (ie. faster than rated for the phone) make the battery deteriorate faster?

sherpa25 said:
Doesn't faster charging (ie. faster than rated for the phone) make the battery deteriorate faster?
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Yes. Any additional stress does.
Do you think about how rapidly the battery discharges when in use? Same deal.
When watching vids which draw about 12% SOT I give it a break every 20-30 minutes.
The whole phone interior is warm much of the time too, more stress.
Just the nature of having a finite lifespan. On a heavily used device you'll get 1-2 years lifespan.
It's no big deal, simply replace it when it's capacity drops below roughly 80% of it's original capacity to avoid a battery failure which can heavily damage, even destroy the device.
Replacing the battery is just part of using and maintaining the phone.
Even the N10+'s battery replacement which isn't rated as easy really is not that difficult once you learn the tricks. Just replace with a battery made in Nam, not China and use a new OEM seal on the rear cover.
The "permanent battery" stuff is just hype for most phones. There are a few exceptions.

blackhawk said:
Yes. Any additional stress does.
Do you think about how rapidly the battery discharges when in use? Same deal.
When watching vids which draw about 12% SOT I give it a break every 20-30 minutes.
The whole phone interior is warm much of the time too, more stress.
Just the nature of having a finite lifespan. On a heavily used device you'll get 1-2 years lifespan.
It's no big deal, simply replace it when it's capacity drops below roughly 80% of it's original capacity to avoid a battery failure which can heavily damage, even destroy the device.
Replacing the battery is just part of using and maintaining the phone.
Even the N10+'s battery replacement which isn't rated as easy really is not that difficult once you learn the tricks. Just replace with a battery made in Nam, not China and use a new OEM seal on the rear cover.
The "permanent battery" stuff is just hype for most phones. There are a few exceptions.
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So you charge your N10+ daily with a faster charger? And always to full 100%?
Well, if mine would last perhaps another 2 years, even doing this, I'd already be happy

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So you charge your N10+ daily with a faster charger? And always to full 100%?
Well, if mine would last perhaps another 2 years, even doing this, I'd already be happy
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Mostly always use fast charging. Not real concerned about replacing the battery but I do limit the level of discharge/charge.
Very rarely to 100% or below 30%
Li's like frequent midrange power cycling.
Typically 40-50 to 70-85% two or three times a day.
Overnight I try to start it at 50-70%
Don't start a charge if below 72F.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or less.
Optimum start temperature is 82-90F
Cool if it goes beyond 100F when charging.
Short midrange charge cycles create less heat and stress.

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Li's like frequent midrange power cycling.
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BTW, what's 'Li'?

Lithium