As Havocs thread is closed because of kernel privacy suspicion, it leaves the users in a dystopian state - they have lost the bridge to find each other to communicate
My first question of all this - isn't Illusion kernel which Havoc consists open source then? It is a part of an open source aosip.
The Sourceforge link to our belover Havoc:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/havoc-os/files/fajita
Wut U Beez Tawkin About Willie B. Jeeves?
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Badda Boom
Thanks Causical. Probably many of Havoc users find their way to telegram or sourceforge to get the dl links. But linking then here might get deleted as you can see in the Eliminater thread
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Thanks Causical. Probably many of Havoc users find their way to telegram or sourceforge to get the dl links. But linking then here might get deleted as you can see in the Eliminater thread
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The rules are pretty simple?
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The rules are pretty simple?
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Explain them then.
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Explain them then.
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They are posted:
Rules for posting in DEV forum.
Most importantly:
Mandatory GPL Information.
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The rules are pretty simple?
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Yes they are simple, for Eliminator
But for the users the xda side for the most popular 6t aosp rom has been Eliminated. So closing the main thread besides just removing the download links has just one effect - silencing the users. Anyway this is quite trendy as for example Google is already censoring files inside personal Google drives.
The true internet left seems to be the darkweb. And unfortunately not also Telegram, which depends on your real mobile number which ends in servers in russian web.
Does anybody know a thread for havoc users elsewhere than xda or Telegram? I mean xda does not seem to care about its users in a smart way and as an avid Havoc friend I am really not interested commenting dev details in this atmosphere. Whether it's caused by ghosty Eliminater or xda mods, I do not care. I am just one of the suppressed users
I also checked the Mandatory GPL link. There is a section for "the average user" and there is NOTHING for the user there... Just for thr dev again.
I guess xda is just for devs not users. So are we going to see more roms without normal user feedback full of bugs because of these rules?
I thought xda was a community not a kingdom of devs
It's 2020 rules don't apply
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It's 2020 rules don't apply
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Be careful, folks here might not understand jokes which I really like in your case. You might end Eliminated
Btw, I guess next dead duck is going to be Aosip as it has the same Illusion kernel as Havoc
Pshhhh I been foruming since before my current user name and even before that one. Back when modding the crap out of low-range Android phones was the hype over at Android forums. You didn't need a Galaxy S-nuthin when you could clock a 800mhz processor to 1.9Ghz lol.
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Be careful, folks here might not understand jokes which I really like in your case. You might end Eliminated
Btw, I guess next dead duck is going to be Aosip as it has the same Illusion kernel as Havoc
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What I don't understand is the kernel is open source.
Does he have the proper licence.
Or it is because he is not a recognize developer?
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Thank you!
Now I am pissed... I created a thread to fix things especially in ethical sphere and Causical posted this filth here... I would like to have an explanation, Causical. I even understand the mod closing the true Havoc thread. What a disappointment. Its like Trump and ClintonNewsNetwork
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Thank you!
Now I am pissed... I created a thread to fix things especially in ethical sphere and Causical posted this filth here... I would like to have an explanation, Causical. I even understand the mod closing the true Havoc thread. What a disappointment. Its like Trump and ClintonNewsNetwork
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I have downloaded before never saw you had to pay for download I agree xda needs to plain.
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I have downloaded before never saw you had to pay for download I agree xda needs to plain.
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Sir, it's not that YOU have to pay for the download but that the developer (team) (who by the way have also a accepted download via sourgeforce) get's paid for every download - and this is not within the above quote rule.
If interested in pling.com Payout Terms & Conditions, please refer to here: https://www.pling.com/terms/payout
So I guess I am not doing anything wrong by this?
The Sourceforge link to our belover Havoc:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/havoc-os/files/fajita
If I am wrong, just remove this before I react and sorry for the rush
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Sir, it's not that YOU have to pay for the download but that the developer (team) (who by the way have also a accepted download via sourgeforce) get's paid for every download - and this is not within the above quote rule.
If interested in pling.com Payout Terms & Conditions, please refer to here: https://www.pling.com/terms/payout
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This the main website that these rom at at now
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Be careful, folks here might not understand jokes which I really like in your case. You might end Eliminated
Btw, I guess next dead duck is going to be Aosip as it has the same Illusion kernel as Havoc
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Straight snitching!
I guess it is time to admit that havoc-os is dead.
Bye bye, hello Lineage
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I cannot believe this dude will publicly bash and feud with members of XDA, then attempt to sell his kernel for $5.50..A MONTH! That's almost as much as I pay for Sirius satellite radio.
The idea is revolting. Absolutely devs should make money off their work, but the fact that people are supporting this guy is extremely disheartening. I implore everyone to not support his nonsense and wait for the public release, or find it another way.
I'm not saying he's not a good dev, his kernel is widely used and stable, but his actions and his juvenile behavior added with his holier-than-thou persona makes him persona-non-grata to me, and hopefully to you too.
I was willing to look past the fact he's been kicked off XDA and even the fact that he fueds with other devs and I was willing to try his kernel, as a persons coding skill should not be affected by his child-like behavior, but the fact that he charges a monthly friggin fee goes against everything this open source movement stands for and his actions actually hinder the further development of our Samsung Galaxies.
Don't. Just don't. He doesn't deserve your support.
agreed! lol
i thought i was the only one that thought this hahaha
WOW! CANT WAIT TO TRY THIS!
...flashing now.
wait you didn't develop anything...learn to post in the correct forum.
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WOW! CANT WAIT TO TRY THIS!
...flashing now.
wait you didn't develop anything...learn to post in the correct forum.
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i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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I believe geekus33 was trying to say this is more of a general forum topic; as it's not a comment/post from either a Dev or a comment on a bug with a ROM/MOD/Kernel.
Besides, this is more of a childish rant than anything else. Not useful in any way shape or form. If you don't like the way someone does business don't support them by voting with your wallet.
~SB
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Not supporting this thread, not denying what it's stating, just wondering how it can even be charged monthly. Is there built in software that makes it stop working if you haven't paid up, or what?
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i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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Technically, geekus33 is right. Whenever you want to post something like this, just post it under General. Development sections are for Roms, Kernels, and Development projects, and not to talk about them.
sorry if this should be posted elsewhere, although i fail to see why.
in any event, all of you *****ing about me *****ing, are just doing the same thing you said i shouldn't do.
I N C E P T I O N
Moved to general as not development.
Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8475563&postcount=2 for guidance on when to post in development.
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Technically, geekus33 is right. Whenever you want to post something like this, just post it under General. Development sections are for Roms, Kernels, and Development projects, and not to talk about them.
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ahh, i see. i read the rules, but just misunderstood the different forums. my bad.
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i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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yeah, it belongs in general, Development section is for developers to share work, and communicate with other developers.
not saying your opinion is any less valid just doesn't belong here...
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ahh, i see. i read the rules, but just misunderstood the different forums. my bad.
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Its cool...I tend to be overly sarcastic.
geekus33 said:
yeah, it belongs in general, Development section is for developers to share work, and communicate with other developers.
not saying your opinion is any less valid just doesn't belong here...
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yah i re-read the rules. my bad. now my rant seems less meaningful
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Its cool...I tend to be overly sarcastic.
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me too! we should hand out. go bowling or something.
Its a paypal monthly recurring charge, you can unsubscribe anytime, it won't affect your hardware, just you may not get the new password when its updated to get into the donation section.
wait, are you serious?
Where is this thread that talks about a monthly fee? I've always heard nothing but BAD things, but this is absolutely laughable.
If you go to his site you will see over on the right a place to subscribe for either Platinum or Gold level membership. The membership entitles you for exclusive access to the kernels and also he says you will make you a custom ROM or something. $5.50/month
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If you go to his site you will see over on the right a place to subscribe for either Platinum or Gold level membership. The membership entitles you for exclusive access to the kernels and also he says you will make you a custom ROM or something. $5.50/month
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yup. and the $5.50 a month entitles you to the updates of your kernel. otherwise, you're out of luck.
what a douche.
If he's distributing a modified linux kernel, he has to provide the source to go with it under the terms of the GPL. So, anybody who "subscribes" will have the rights to the source code and can republish that. If he's *not* distributing his source code along with the binaries, that's a GPL violation, and I bet the FSF would be interested.
I'm all for people asking for donations and all, but unless he's providing the code to subscribers this is a problem. If he *is* providing the code to subscribers, they can turn around and repost it for everybody else to use.
mind = blown
Thank God we have people like Team Whiskey, Eugene and JAC (not a complete list, just examples).
he's not.
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Can anyone give me a detailed answer as to why the HDMI threads are getting closed? I would like to stay informed of the progress and share my experiences with the dev... isn't that why we all come to XDA?
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My guess is because they often turn into arguments of "so-and-so stole code from so-and-so."
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My guess is because they often turn into arguments of "so-and-so stole code from so-and-so."
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This and people report them. I've reported two myself because if I want to watch drama, I'd turn on Jerry Springer or Maury. I come here to learn, see what's new with Android developements, get updates on CM7, MIUI, and the like, and maybe even contribute here and there.
If the HMDI threads can keep out the "Down with Teamwin" and "Orrebmas is two-faced" crap, and maintain meaningful dialog, then the threads will live a nice long life...we'll see what happens to this one.
The XDA drama queen is in the house! Now where were we?
lol j/k
As long as no one pokes me with a stick again, I'm done with it.
These guys are right, it just turns into a feud between teamwin supporters and the ooremmbas(however you spell it) supporters. That guy and team win have achieved awesome things lets just accept the greatness and enjoy our evos. Who cares, ooreammbas gave us hdmi, teamwin gave us 4g the 2 single most important things on our evo. I support them all man.
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I don't understand all the drama either. People just need to shut up and enjoy the awesome work that these devs do. Orrebmas has a thread over on Android Central that seems to be staying civil and on topic.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...dmi-official-fullhdmi-beta-discussion-24.html
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I don't understand all the drama either. People just need to shut up and enjoy the awesome work that these devs do. Orrebmas has a thread over on Android Central that seems to be staying civil and on topic.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...dmi-official-fullhdmi-beta-discussion-24.html
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what about the teamwin does anybody know where to get some info on it? about the progress with HDMI?
I would love to follow bough
There was one thread last night saying people who donated would get a "pro version" of the beta. After seeing that I'm not surprised they got shut down.
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Can anyone give me a detailed answer as to why the HDMI threads are getting closed? I would like to stay informed of the progress and share my experiences with the dev... isn't that why we all come to XDA?
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[GPL- Violation] Full HDMI Mirroring(Released)--(NEW UPDATED APP) claims GPL violations. My question to the admins is this. Is the beta apk posted in violation of GPL or the modified kernels or both? If it was the kernel then all that had to be done was have the posted kernels removed. If it was the apk. then there are a hell of a lot of threads that need to be closed on this site.
My personal opinion with regards to this is, the rules are black and white so follow them and enforce them AT ALL TIMES. If there is any confusion/requests (in this case there's a whole lot) as to what the violation is, cite examples of the offending file or post. If no example is given then is looks like typical political BS. As far as "who stole code from whom", post code or GTFO.
To all devs. If you claim to be working on something post links to, or examples of progress or don't post. When you don't show examples it makes the thread/post look like vaporware or BS.
To members. Posting nothing more than "cool" or some of useless drivel makes no sense in a dev thread. If you like then there's a "thanks" button, use it and move on. Dev threads are for test results, bug reports and feature requests. If you want to chat about something in the dev thread there's a "General" forum just a click away. If a general discussion thread is started then request that the OP post a link to it in the first post.
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what about the teamwin does anybody know where to get some info on it? about the progress with HDMI?
I would love to follow bough
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follow shinzul on twitter for updates, he just posted another video yesterday!
http://twitter.com/#!/Shinzul
xHausx said:
There was one thread last night saying people who donated would get a "pro version" of the beta. After seeing that I'm not surprised they got shut down.
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I believe you misunderstood that post. What he meant was that people who already donated would not have to pay for the final release of the app; not the beta. The beta that is out now is the same whether you have donated or not and is available to anyone.
@Lokifish: It is the SBC HDMI kernel that is in violation of GPL. There is a stock HTC kernel where the only change are the HDMI drivers that were added to it which is not in violation of anything. The app is not in violation of anything, either. A member of this site posted the kernel here after orrebmas had removed the link to it voluntarily to not be in violation of any GPL rules.
DomSim said:
follow shinzul on twitter for updates, he just posted another video yesterday!
http://twitter.com/#!/Shinzul
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thanks man i just started following
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@Lokifish: It is the SBC HDMI kernel that is in violation of GPL. There is a stock HTC kernel where the only change are the HDMI drivers that were added to it which is not in violation of anything. The app is not in violation of anything, either. A member of this site posted the kernel here after orrebmas had removed the link to it voluntarily to not be in violation of any GPL rules.
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That's my thought as well, but instead of closing the thread and deleting everything all it would have taken is the removal of one file to be in compliance. It's akin to formatting a HDD because you find one wallpaper offensive, very childish IMHO.
Off topic but related. TW's development is very tight lipped and from the two vids I've seen I've already found flaws, this doesn't benefit development.
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That's my thought as well, but instead of closing the thread and deleting everything all it would have taken is the removal of one file to be in compliance. It's akin to formatting a HDD because you find one wallpaper offensive, very childish IMHO.
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I think that due to the drama that has been circling around anything related to Evo HDMI lately, there is little to no tolerance from the mods for anything that doesn't 100% follow the rules. I myself am partly to blame, because I have been beyond outspoken with my opinions. However, I'm ready to let it go and hopefully the other protagonists to this soap opera are, too.
Maybe someone can start a new thread and it can be kept clean. I'm not going to do it seeing as I am probably not the most popular person on the XDA Evo forum right now, but I think someone should.
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That's my thought as well, but instead of closing the thread and deleting everything all it would have taken is the removal of one file to be in compliance. It's akin to formatting a HDD because you find one wallpaper offensive, very childish IMHO.
Off topic but related. TW's development is very tight lipped and from the two vids I've seen I've already found flaws, this doesn't benefit development.
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+1
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Is this one next?
You have been EVOfied.
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@Lokifish: It is the SBC HDMI kernel that is in violation of GPL. There is a stock HTC kernel where the only change are the HDMI drivers that were added to it which is not in violation of anything. The app is not in violation of anything, either. A member of this site posted the kernel here after orrebmas had removed the link to it voluntarily to not be in violation of any GPL rules.
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Him not releasing the kernel source changes makes it a GPL violation regardless.
Gotta pay to play, be a true citizen and report the denizens of the internet for GPL violations!
ooremmbas's project is not open sourced ... and he fully intends to release it as a payed product. He's made no mystery about that. Even if it's not in literal violation of a certain rule ... it's certainly against the spirit of XDA, so I couldn't care less if it gets shutdown.
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ooremmbas's project is not open sourced ... and he fully intends to release it as a payed product. He's made no mystery about that. Even if it's not in literal violation of a certain rule ... it's certainly against the spirit of XDA, so I couldn't care less if it gets shutdown.
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The gpl is more than just a rule made up by xda, it is a legal agreement you agree to in order to use the linux kernel.
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Him not releasing the kernel source changes makes it a GPL violation regardless.
Gotta pay to play, be a true citizen and report the denizens of the internet for GPL violations!
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If that's the case then there are a lot of threads on XDA that need to be deleted. Actually lets follow precedence and just lock and delete the whole site. This whole thing goes deeper than just his work, it's the "pick and choose" application of forum rules and GPL.
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ooremmbas's project is not open sourced ... and he fully intends to release it as a payed product. He's made no mystery about that. Even if it's not in literal violation of a certain rule ... it's certainly against the spirit of XDA, so I couldn't care less if it gets shutdown.
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What are your options then? Are you going to support a closed development project just because you'll get the app for free? From what little I've seen of the alternative it's already flawed but find me the thread where it's discussed so I can voice this. You can't.
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Can the Mod who decided to BAN mccmjoon76 with this thread, be so kind and explain the reason why he removes one of the BBBBBBBBBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
build in here??????
Please activate this thread again.
I would think it has to do with the inclusion of a few 'paid' Apps within the build..
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I would think it has to do with the inclusion of a few 'paid' Apps within the build..
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Exactly this.
Which was clearly stated at the end of the ROM thread.
For those who arent aware XDA has a zero tolerance policy regarding warez. As stated in the Forum Rules.
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.
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We appreciate that it can be frustrating to find a build you like has had to be removed, however, those builds that include warez could land XDA in serious trouble and lead to there not being any ROMS for anyone at all.... which Im sure nobody wants.
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Exactly this.
Which was clearly stated at the end of the ROM thread.
For those who arent aware XDA has a zero tolerance policy regarding warez. As stated in the Forum Rules.
We appreciate that it can be frustrating to find a build you like has had to be removed, however, those builds that include warez could land XDA in serious trouble and lead to there not being any ROMS for anyone at all.... which Im sure nobody wants.
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And negociating with Mccm, that he should remove this or these apps in a new build is not POSSIBLE???
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And negociating with Mccm, that he should remove this or these apps in a new build is not POSSIBLE???
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Politics my friend no negociating just Ban ! . Clearly some one had report to Mod about...... sorry sorry don't ban me
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And negociating with Mccm, that he should remove this or these apps in a new build is not POSSIBLE???
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We cannot discuss specifics of any one user, but a ban would not be issued on a first offence. Moved to general
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Politics my friend no negociating just Ban ! . Clearly some one had report to Mod about...... sorry sorry don't ban me
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No politics involved. Rules are rules. They are there for a reason and that reason is to protect the vast majority of members who are happy to abide by those rules.
We all agreed to abide by these rules upon registering an account with XDA.
Now we're getting to the point where nothing belongs anywhere. Seriously, stop ****ting on us productive and helpful members. And now apparently voicing your opinion doesn't belong anywhere either. This place used to be a fun and open community, now it seems like a place for these "moderators" to openly abuse their power.
Couldn't agree more. COMMUNICATION moderators!
this isnt just non productive, trolling members anymore..
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this isnt just non productive, trolling members anymore..
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Right we're legitimately trying to help and these asshats are taking it as spam. Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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Right we're legitimately trying to help and these asshats are taking it as spam. Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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sadly +1 thomasskull666, qbking77, and Chris41g you are all right. this ubermod heavy handedness is ridiculous.
you better hurry up and put "rumor" or a different phones name in the title or this ****s gonna get locked too...
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you better hurry up and put "rumor" or a different phones name in the title or this ****s gonna get locked too...
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You're right, you should be allowed to post copyrighted information wherever you want...
I agree there seems to be a general disconnect between the moderators but you people need to open your eyes to what you are complaining about (I'm looking at you chris41g)
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You're right, you should be allowed to post copyrighted information wherever you want...
I agree there seems to be a general disconnect between the moderators but you people need to open your eyes to what you are complaining about (I'm looking at you chris41g)
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troll 10char
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Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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troll 10char
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jarcher1971 said:
so Machx0r, or should i call you Cory Charlton, famous cut and paste dev of the smoking log. what did you find in Chris41g's post that was copywritten material. i don't see any at all. who appointed you forum sherrif anyway. if you don't like what you see, just go away. you are not contributing to EPIC development one bit with all this.
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(Wish I had the option to save sent replies prior to sending this):
<Summary>The McGraw hill book with a clear copyright of 2008 on page 3 or whaterver</Summary>
Call me a troll all you want but I believe that stealing is wrong. Sue me...
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As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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If you are too blind to see the issue then leave. YOU aren't helping, you're making this harder on yourself.
Is there anyone here who's actually willing to work with the mods to resolve these "issues"?
Simply starting a thread complaining isn't going to help if you can't have a civil discussion with the mods.
the issue is that any thread regarding "epic general chat" in the "epic general chat" section is closed, yet numerous unrelated flaming, trolling threads remain open.. how is a thread asking where to begin learning to develop for the epic off topic in the "epic" general chat?
Ok, so which threads were closed that you feel shouldn't have been? Apart from the two that were closed by Mr. Clown?
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As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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Here is the problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177076
chris41g posted a link to a copyrighted McGraw hill PDF. The thread was closed and the link was removed (partially, still available in a quote). and now the whining begins about how it's unfair that you prohibit them from stealing the hard work of others...
Seriously? Unfortunately...
PS: There is also the starter thread that was perhaps closed out of line but really whine about it like this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176684
and regarding the copywritten material, simple mistake, it was a collection of reference materials... but it was explicitly cited as not being the reason the thread was closed.. it was closed for off topic.. how can anything epic related be off topic in epic general chat?
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Is there anyone here who's actually willing to work with the mods to resolve these "issues"?
Simply starting a thread complaining isn't going to help if you can't have a civil discussion with the mods.
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What planet are you from? The issue is you mods keep closing helpful and meaningful threads with no explanation, then leaving the useless and detrimental ones open for the trolls to devour. Obviously there is some sort of disconnect, so please sort out your internal troubles before coming in here flaunting your moderator status. Chris41g and I have been here for quite some time so we're no stranger to the overpowering by mods, but at some point it has to stop and I think now is a great time. We go months and months without seeing a single moderator and now all of a sudden you guys come in and starting closing/deleting threads left and right with no explanation. Please refer me to whoever you have as a supervisor, I would like to speak to them directly if not tonight then tomorrow.
chris41g said:
and regarding the copywritten material, simple mistake, it was a collection of reference materials... but it was explicitly cited as not being the reason the thread was closed.. it was closed for off topic.. how can anything epic related be off topic in epic general chat?
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False:
Mr. Clown said:
Thank you for your good intentions, there is a great forum in this site (Chef central) where everybody has access and learn all about this.
Also, you are breaching rule number 9, posting copyright material.
Thread closed and links removed,
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He even thanked you for your intentions...
thomasskull666 said:
The issue is you mods keep closing helpful and meaningful threads with no explanation, then leaving the useless and detrimental ones open for the trolls to devour.
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Can you please point me to these "helpful and meaningful threads" that have been closed? (aside from the two recent ones closed by Mr. Clown)? Then we can establish the problems.
thomasskull666 said:
Please refer me to whoever you have as a supervisor, I would like to speak to them directly if not tonight then tomorrow.
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Feel free to PM MikeChannon, the forum admin.
if you cant read....
he closed it because he said it belonged elsewhere..
then went on to say, ALSO it contained copywrighted material. now, since that issue is cleared up. can you get off my nuts about the book?
So I went ahead a few months back and bought the timur kernal for my n7 2013, then i got busy. Now i go back to the main source of support, his thread right here in this general section and find out that it was closed almost a month ago! I understand the reasoning but also would love to know where to go to for supports and updates, what's everyone doing now that bough his kernal?
bossman137 said:
So I went ahead a few months back and bought the timur kernal for my n7 2013, then i got busy. Now i go back to the main source of support, his thread right here in this general section and find out that it was closed almost a month ago! I understand the reasoning but also would love to know where to go to for supports and updates, what's everyone doing now that bough his kernal?
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As of now there is nowhere ....
You can contact him directly for support ....
Hopefully we can find a home soon ....since xda wont accommodate us
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I dont understand how we are allowed to talk about tasker but we cant talk about the software package from Timur. It reeks of favoritism.
Agreed. Extremely arrogant move.
It has more to do with all the whiny - no skill devs who constantly complain about him not releasing the sources to his kernel ...probably because they cant accomplish the same on there own.
This is the on going theme here with many roms and many highly skilled devs
You see it in any dev section where the devs get reported on for stealing work even though they are the ones who created it. Its a wonder some devs even keep there work public anymore , cause it is constantly happening
As usual the whiners ruin it for everyone ...its a shame but thats the world for you
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deadgiveaway said:
It has more to do with all the whiny - no skill devs who constantly complain about him not releasing the sources to his kernel ...probably because they cant accomplish the same on there own.
This is the on going theme here with many roms and many highly skilled devs
You see it in any dev section where the devs get reported on for stealing work even though they are the ones who created it. Its a wonder some devs even keep there work public anymore , cause it is constantly happening
As usual the whiners ruin it for everyone ...its a shame but thats the world for you
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I could swear I have seen some devs on here supporting their paid apps for certain phones.
11. Don’t post with the intention of selling something.
Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling. This includes promoting sites similar/substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-guide-to-paid-work-on-xda-developers/
NNL said:
I could swear I have seen some devs on here supporting their paid apps for certain phones.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-guide-to-paid-work-on-xda-developers/
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I know eh lol
Someone didnt get there cut ???
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NNL said:
I could swear I have seen some devs on here supporting their paid apps for certain phones.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-guide-to-paid-work-on-xda-developers/
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Did you read the article you linked??
Let me point some things to you that you obviously missed:
Now, a big chunk of Rule 11 deals with other topics aside from paid apps
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Pro-Tip #1 – Sell in the correct area
If you have a paid app that you are advertising on xda-developers, it must be posted in the Paid Software Announcement and Discussion section, which has a few guidelines that need to be followed before posting. To save you some reading, you must be a member in good standing with some good history behind you on the site. This way, we ensure that people are not here solely to sell stuff.
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Pro-Tip #3 – Link =| Spam
Be mindful of the amount of advertising you do with your paid work. Again, you can link from within the thread of your free version. However, you cannot include direct links to your paid apps in your signature, profile, or anywhere else. You can, however, put links to your free app threads in the aforementioned places, which already contain links to the paid counterparts. Simply put, you must first present your free app before you direct others to your paid work.
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deadgiveaway said:
I know eh lol
Someone didnt get there cut ???
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I don't know what you mean, but xda has never gotten any money from developers, except from volunteer donations to the site that anyone can make.
deadgiveaway said:
It has more to do with all the whiny - no skill devs who constantly complain about him not releasing the sources to his kernel ...
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-developers-and-the-gpl/
As a result, we would like to clarify our position on the GPL, and users’ obligations to this effect. By posting your work on XDA-Developers, you are agreeing that it complies with relevant licensing conditions. As such, by posting a kernel or other work containing GPL code, you are confirming to us that you have made this source code available publicly under the GPL, and should highlight this in your thread with a link.
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bjornh said:
Agreed. Extremely arrogant move.
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How is it arrogant?
Please read the forum rules.(8,11)
NNL said:
I dont understand how we are allowed to talk about tasker but we cant talk about the software package from Timur. It reeks of favoritism.
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If you see any download link of any paid app please use the report button and the moderation team will take care of it.
Please read the forum rules.(6)
bossman137 said:
So I went ahead a few months back and bought the timur kernal for my n7 2013, then i got busy. Now i go back to the main source of support, his thread right here in this general section and find out that it was closed almost a month ago! I understand the reasoning but also would love to know where to go to for supports and updates, what's everyone doing now that bough his kernal?
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The thread was closed for a reason so you can assume not in the xda forum as long as the kernel remains donation only. You can contact the original developer and ask him.
Thread closed.
I hope I answered your questions, for any comments or further discussion you can contact me via pm.