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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzInTyBAMEA
#ElephoneP9000 will receive #Android7.0 OTA in mid-November.
A variety of functions will be added on the Elephone P9000 Android 7.0 :
Split-screen multi task,
Quick reply for notification messages,
Notification messages collection
Mobile traffic protection mode, etc.
source : Elephone

Not realy whith soft Touch Button?????
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I think Elephone is going very fast with ROMs for the P9000. For the moment there is no 100% stable and working ROM: not even the stock official one.
So yes, thanks for the effort with porting Nougat, but I hope it is not going to be part of the "almost ready" list.
No offense intended in this post.

Whats with that Gingerbread search bar??? lol

Stylez Ray. said:
Whats with that Gingerbread search bar??? lol
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MTK quick search box app. It's part of MTK's suite of apps but looks disgusting

a list of bug fixes?

Great news!!!! But please, Provide the correct kernel sources.

ELEPHONE P9000 GET ANDROID 7.0 NOUGAT UPDATE OTA IN MID-NOVEMBER KNOW MORE gsemobiles.com/elephone-p9000-get-android-7-0-nougat-update-ota-mid-november/

It seams we really will get it in November.
Honesty I did not believe that in November Elephone will release the Android 7

BlackLodge said:
I think Elephone is going very fast with ROMs for the P9000. For the moment there is no 100% stable and working ROM: not even the stock official one.
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You just summed up my frustrations with this phone. Plenty of projects, none of which are stable.
Side note: I hope they get rid of that terrible bin icon in the task switcher.

andythedev said:
You just summed up my frustrations with this phone. Plenty of projects, none of which are stable.
Side note: I hope they get rid of that terrible bin icon in the task switcher.
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Yep.
I bought this phone because it is powerful and very low price. I was of course aware of the poor ROM support, but I thought at the moment that it was only a matter of time: Elephone said that they were going to release the kernel, and there was that first preliminary port of CM13.
Now not a single ROM works. I am very interested in CM13, but the development is stopped for a time already. I would like to help (I have wide experience in developing, although never with android), but I can't even post in CM13 thread because my account is too young yet. Aaargh.
Well, I guess best strategy for the moment is simply to wait.

and here i was about to start looking into porting the jiayu s3 7.0 build, think ill just wait for the official version
also im not sure what issues people are facing that are that bad with the current CM13 build. ill admit there are a few bugs on mine, HDR photos crash the app, GPS is horribly inaccurate and all over the place despite all attempts to fix it (almost certainly down to the hardware at this point) and the proximity sensor can be a bit dodgy often leading to you pressing buttons with your face while in call, but this may be worse than it really is due to the rather cracked and battered screen protector thats on it. other than that its been a perfectly functional daily driver for me.

andythedev said:
You just summed up my frustrations with this phone. Plenty of projects, none of which are stable.
Side note: I hope they get rid of that terrible bin icon in the task switcher.
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I think the problem is also we, the end user. I'm pretty sure a normal person would never think about buying this phone, most people tend to buy the phones they know by name: Samsung, HTC, LG...Tell someone you know you have an Elephone, they don't know what you mean.
People in this sub forum usually know why they bought the P900 and what they had to expect. Look at the phones I had: I knew this phone couldn't be complete software wise and I bought it in hope that CM13 makes it complete and even if it would work I knew I wouldn't get 100% satisfied. Honestly, I'm surprised how good Deepflex made my experience with his CM13 port but for now in this state of development of all roms (and even stock) it's the confirmation I wanted from the beginning: this phone is cheap for a reason and it will never be as good as 400$+ phones, no matter how many roms the devs will release here and even IF Nougat drops you won't be getting this "full experience" you wanted.

Stylez Ray. said:
I think the problem is also we, the end user. I'm pretty sure a normal person would never think about buying this phone, most people tend to buy the phones they know by name: Samsung, HTC, LG...Tell someone you know you have an Elephone, they don't know what you mean.
People in this sub forum usually know why they bought the P900 and what they had to expect. Look at the phones I had: I knew this phone couldn't be complete software wise and I bought it in hope that CM13 makes it complete and even if it would work I knew I wouldn't get 100% satisfied. Honestly, I'm surprised how good Deepflex made my experience with his CM13 port but for now in this state of development of all roms (and even stock) it's the confirmation I wanted from the beginning: this phone is cheap for a reason and it will never be as good as 400$+ phones, no matter how many roms the devs will release here and even IF Nougat drops you won't be getting this "full experience" you wanted.
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With all due respect, I think it is very unfair to blame the consumer for the failures of this device. It's advertised on Amazon as being "smooth and stable" and that just isn't true.
Elephone have decided to make the priority sales numbers rather than happy customers and it's likely going to result in the failure of the company as their brand develops a bad name.
While the adoption of this device seems to be successful, the failing user experience is what will prevent any possibility of loyal customers. Development malpractices such as releasing a "stable" CM 13 ROM which doesn't detect a large number of working SIM cards is straight up deceitful to customers. I would go as far as to say false advertising is taking place.

BlackLodge said:
Yep.
I bought this phone because it is powerful and very low price. I was of course aware of the poor ROM support, but I thought at the moment that it was only a matter of time: Elephone said that they were going to release the kernel, and there was that first preliminary port of CM13.
Now not a single ROM works. I am very interested in CM13, but the development is stopped for a time already. I would like to help (I have wide experience in developing, although never with android), but I can't even post in CM13 thread because my account is too young yet. Aaargh.
Well, I guess best strategy for the moment is simply to wait.
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The 10 post rule no longer applies I don't think? You should be able to post in the development forum. What error message do you get when trying to post?

I do not have an Elephone (yet?) only experience with other China phone. So bear with me if I talk nonsense.
I thought my Zenfone fo example is not really worse than Samsung and Co. It's just that Samsung is much bigger and developer support much better. So it's actually not Samsung delivering a solution for a problem.
Another issue is the "update" pattern by Google. How can a firmware mature if Google publishes new versions often?

will we get android 7.1?

I disagree with everyone here. The hardware in the P9000 is easily comparable to its Samsung counterpart. At a quarter of the price tag. The trade off? Bad software (easily overcome thanks to Jonny, deepflex, skeleton1911, and others), and bad customer service. Again. Easily overcome. As far as android N, I will wait until cm14 and enjoy beta testing with the 2nd elephone I buy with all the money I saved by not buying a Samsung and risking it exploding in my pocket.

I'm a slightly more normal user - I don't mod phones anymore, and am content to just use them, too much else to do.
But I have to disagree with a lot of the negativity here: My P9000 is a great phone - very rarely crashes, works well and reliably, and has received many ROM updates. The camera is good enough, the GPS works well enough, better in HERE than Google maps, battery could be better, but I get a day out of it, so that's about average. My previous phone was a P8(?), which was rubbish, prior to that I had a Nokia N8, which was great, but I kept killing the camera module and the earpiece through shock and dust damage. I'm hard on on phones, they get dropped and exposed to dust and moisture. The P9000 has taken it all and not even stuttered.
And now it's getting nougat? Well done elephone, better support than a LOT of manufacturers. Do they still make the P9000? If they could sort out Androidpay then I'd consider the phone faultless.
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I have to agree with Wildefalcon.
I am also a "normal" user. I have previously had Star and Zopo phones which were not great and never received any updates.
We must have had 3 or 4 updates so far, with Nougat to come.
After my experience with my previous phones, this is beyond my expectations!
I have found the GPS and camera to be okay and yes, I would like to have Android Pay too.
The one disappointment I have had was with the faulty sim tray which caused the sim cards to log out. Neither the seller nor Elephone were prepared to replace it free of charge and I ended up paying US$10 for a replacement.
Overall, I think for the price, including the additional $10, this is an excellent phone.
I appreciate others may have had problems and perhaps I have just been lucky.

Did OP order a production stop for the Op5 ?

I did order my Op5 4 days ago in germany, when the availableness was OnStock.
It should have been gone into delivery on 03.07 and arrive on 06.07. But it went into delivery on 01.07 already and will arrive at 03.07.
But thats not the point, just a bit gloating
The Poing is, that the availableness changed to delivery within 4 day on 01.07.
A day later it was within 11 days and now it is within 4 weeks.
Im curious, did they stop the production and delivery to fix the jelly screen or are the suddenly sold out within only a few days ?

Hope they stopped production to fix this.
Otherwise u can have mine, UPS picks it up tomorrow.

KornY10 said:
Hope they stopped production to fix this.
Otherwise u can have mine, UPS picks it up tomorrow.
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guess takes a while to put all the returned phones back into sale

I would guess it is very popular. It is a lot of phone for the money and not many people will have heard of the jelly effect
Alan

It's just for the 8GB RAM/128GB Storage version, no? At the HU store it says for the 6/64: "Ships immediately", for th 8/128: "Ships within 4 weeks"
Maybe they are out of stock for the black version...

Let's not speculate. It could be anything.
It could be that they have ordered more thorough QA but it could also simply be that they are diverting stock to regions where demand is higher and returns are lower.

I think the warehouses in Europe are now empty. (first batch?) In addition, the smaller model is in stock and immediately available. I order my on 01.07 and it will be delivered from GB in 2 weeks.

They are just out of stock for 8/128gb. They arent fixing any "jelly" effect as its completely normal effect and is visible with mamy other phones like Samsung Galaxy S8+, Nexus 6P and many others. Less than 1% of OP5 owners even see that effect.
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zige said:
They are just out of stock for 8/128gb. They arent fixing any "jelly" effect as its completely normal effect and is visible with mamy other phones like Samsung Galaxy S8+, Nexus 6P and many others. Less than 1% of OP5 owners even see that effect.
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It's visible on other phones yes... But when used upsidedown...
And have you a source that proves less than 1% of users see the jelly effect ?
Ah fanboy...

zige said:
They are just out of stock for 8/128gb. They arent fixing any "jelly" effect as its completely normal effect and is visible with mamy other phones like Samsung Galaxy S8+, Nexus 6P and many others. Less than 1% of OP5 owners even see that effect.
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No those other phones don't have that same issue. I've used every phone you mentioned. I have a S8+, OP5, and I had a 6P before. The OP5 is the only phone to have this issue and I have 2 different OP5 and they both exhibit the behavior. The 1% number you just pulled out of your a**.

alex9898 said:
It's visible on other phones yes... But when used upsidedown...
And have you a source that proves less than 1% of users see the jelly effect ?
Ah fanboy...
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No, its visible other phones when they are on right side. Well you see yourself how many people cry about it compared to how many phones they have already sold. Really small amount of users are crying about it. Many says its looks just like normal. And fanboy? Ahaha dont laugh me I'm more like Samsung fanboy. I have owned all Samsung flagships (from Galaxy S-models and Galaxy Note models), this is my second Oneplus phone as i need to know basics of all phones because of my work at mobile servicer.
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BoboBrazil said:
No those other phones don't have that same issue. I've used every phone you mentioned. I have a S8+, OP5, and I had a 6P before. The OP5 is the only phone to have this issue and I have 2 different OP5 and they both exhibit the behavior. The 1% number you just pulled out of your a**.
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Of course i pulled 1% out of my ass. Damn people on XDA is so funny and taking things so seriously. Nobody really has any clue about exact amount. But its 100% sure its normal behaviour and only really small amount of OP5 owners really even sees it. I barely even see it, i see it exact like on other phones so maybe im seeing it wrong then. And yes, i have looked about 20-30 OP5 phones and all of them i barely see it.
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zige said:
No, its visible other phones when they are on right side. Well you see yourself how many people cry about it compared to how many phones they have already sold. Really small amount of users are crying about it. Many says its looks just like normal. And fanboy? Ahaha dont laugh me I'm more like Samsung fanboy. I have owned all Samsung flagships (from Galaxy S-models and Galaxy Note models), this is my second Oneplus phone as i need to know basics of all phones because of my work at mobile servicer.
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Of course i pulled 1% out of my ass. Damn people on XDA is so funny and taking things so seriously. Nobody really has any clue about exact amount. But its 100% sure its normal behaviour and only really small amount of OP5 owners really even sees it. I barely even see it, i see it exact like on other phones so maybe im seeing it wrong then. And yes, i have looked about 20-30 OP5 phones and all of them i barely see it.
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I doubt very few people see it as there are multiple threads on this issue here, elsewhere like reddit, videos on youtube, as well as major stories on websites about it. I think it is a very widespread complaint. These are just a few websites. Imagine how many people it bothers, but they don't comment at places like xda about it. Now how much it bothers you is your own personal feeling. Personally it causes my eyes to hurt and gives me headaches and apparently it bothers many others as well as noticed by all the threads about the issue.

zige said:
No, its visible other phones when they are on right side.
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No it's not. But because you make the claim, I will wait for you to prove it.
Well you see yourself how many people cry about it compared to how many phones they have already sold. Really small amount of users are crying about it. Many says its looks just like normal.
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So basically you just made up the "less than 1%".
Moreover, not all people that brought the phone will come to XDA... or is there an obligation to come here post every time your phone has a problem ?
The fact is that the jelly effect is one of the most (if not the most) discussed OP5's subject on XDA, Reddit or in the OP forums.
And fanboy? Ahaha dont laugh me I'm more like Samsung fanboy. I have owned all Samsung flagships (from Galaxy S-models and Galaxy Note models), this is my second Oneplus phone as i need to know basics of all phones because of my work at mobile servicer.
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Your are defending a phone with false claim and made up %...

zige said:
No, its visible other phones when they are on right side. Well you see yourself how many people cry about it compared to how many phones they have already sold. Really small amount of users are crying about it. Many says its looks just like normal. And fanboy? Ahaha dont laugh me I'm more like Samsung fanboy. I have owned all Samsung flagships (from Galaxy S-models and Galaxy Note models), this is my second Oneplus phone as i need to know basics of all phones because of my work at mobile servicer.
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Of course i pulled 1% out of my ass. Damn people on XDA is so funny and taking things so seriously. Nobody really has any clue about exact amount. But its 100% sure its normal behaviour and only really small amount of OP5 owners really even sees it. I barely even see it, i see it exact like on other phones so maybe im seeing it wrong then. And yes, i have looked about 20-30 OP5 phones and all of them i barely see it.
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Sure dude!
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But its 100% sure its normal behaviour and only really small amount of OP5 owners really even sees it.
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Yeah it's 100% sure because... ?
See, made up % again.
Nothing is 100% sure because we don't have official or even estimated numbers !!!

alex9898 said:
Yeah it's 100% sure because... ?
See, made up % again.
Nothing is 100% sure because we don't have official or even estimated numbers !!!
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hahaha these fanboys...

Well it's really simple, people that are not satisfied or keep complaining all the time should RMA or not buy the phone and leave this thread, iI get sick and tired of people telling me my phone is defective while it's not. I don't have weird animations and my OP5 is perfectly fine. My phone is from the first batch by the way. Just my 2 cents ??

gee2012 said:
Well it's really simple, people that are not satisfied or keep complaining all the time should RMA or not buy the phone and leave this thread, iI get sick and tired of people telling me my phone is defective while it's not. I don't have weird animations and my OP5 is perfectly fine. My phone is from the first batch by the way. Just my 2 cents ?
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I'll add my bit here as well...... I also have no problem with scrolling and am perfectly happy with my OP5.

Same, I'm sure I was one of the first people to order this phone during the presale in the USA, and I don't notice anything wrong with the display. And I use a ton of different phones, rotate phones every 2-3 months....

BoboBrazil said:
I doubt very few people see it as there are multiple threads on this issue here, elsewhere like reddit, videos on youtube, as well as major stories on websites about it. I think it is a very widespread complaint. These are just a few websites. Imagine how many people it bothers, but they don't comment at places like xda about it. Now how much it bothers you is your own personal feeling. Personally it causes my eyes to hurt and gives me headaches and apparently it bothers many others as well as noticed by all the threads about the issue.
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It's more of a clickbait, a scandal if you will that sells. Mass hysteria yadda yadda.
Personally I've yet to see this jelly effect on my OP5. I feel for them who suffer from this but I doubt it's that high number of people that actually suffer from this.
But yeah, moot point to argue I guess.
Oh and yes, sure I'm a fanboy, this is my first OP phone.

Maze Alpha info + benchmarks [AnTuTu, Geekbench, Epic Citadel, Androbench etc.]

Received the Maze Alpha a couple of days ago and have been running some benchmark tests. (3DMark to be added)
Figured I'd share them and if anyone has any questions/wants me to check something, please let me know
AnTuTu
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Geekbench 4
Epic Citadel
Androbench
MobileBench
Nenamark 2
Sensorbox
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
PCMark Work 2.0 battery life (100% screen brightness)
Vellamo

Thanks ! interesting, i am awaiting mine looking forward to testing it myself.

Thanks for sharing, in www.kimovil.com shows antutu score as 80.000, yours is more realistic.

dimmebd said:
Thanks for sharing, in www.kimovil.com shows antutu score as 80.000, yours is more realistic.
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No problem
Kimovil is a great site in terms of being an index of phones and tablets. However, the information provided is often lackluster and sometimes even wrong, unfortunately. I find devicespecifications.com and china-prices.com to be more reliable.

Got mine yesterday... it's like a toy VS the Mi Mix... performances are very poor and the UI is a stock, at all with just a few customizations.

Got mine a few days ago... the Mi Mix is indeed a better phone in every way but it also cost 2-3 times more.
That said, like many of the Chinese phones out there today, it advertises a lot, delivers mediocre performance and features.
For the money, its a nice looking phone, totally stock android.
Terrible camera, very heavy (may be the heaviest smartphone I've ever used).
Slippery as heck - how on earth can any company release a phone especially one that is as hard to hold as the Alpha and not have any cases available for them??
After years of using so many flagships ie Galaxy Note 3, 5, S7 Edge, Nexus 6P, Pixel, Huawei Mate 9m P9, LG G4 V10 V20, Mi Mix, as well as tons of Japanese market models (I live in Japan), I've been trying out some of these more budget friendly models and as you all know they are not all created equally but all their manufacturers try to market unbelievable features for the price.
While they perform admirably in some cases I've learned to deal with many bugs, QA issues, and others surprises.
So far the Maze isn't bad especially for the money. It has its quirks and bugs but along with the other phone I'm using as dual daily drivers now (Umidigi Z1 Pro)... I have been getting by... lol.

gocchin said:
Got mine a few days ago... the Mi Mix is indeed a better phone in every way but it also cost 2-3 times more.
Terrible camera, very heavy (may be the heaviest smartphone I've ever used).
Slippery as heck - how on earth can any company release a phone especially one that is as hard to hold as the Alpha and not have any cases available for them??
So far the Maze isn't bad especially for the money. It has its quirks and bugs but along with the other phone I'm using as dual daily drivers now (Umidigi Z1 Pro)... I have been getting by... lol.
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How does it surprise you the phone is heavy? All information was readily available.
I agree that the camera performance isn't that great - need to mess around with manual settings to get proper shots or wait for further OTA updates (didn't they promise Android O on Facebook? We'll see what happens with that).
Should the cases have been ready before launch? Yes.
In Maze's defense, you can say it's still a new company - the Alpha is just the second product in the company's portfolio. Considering being a new player, Maze has done well so far and what I like is the company's isn't pushing 2-3 new phones every other month, which - hopefully - means the current portfolio of products will receive OTA updates and be maintained.

Palm Trees said:
How does it surprise you the phone is heavy? All information was readily available.
I agree that the camera performance isn't that great - need to mess around with manual settings to get proper shots or wait for further OTA updates (didn't they promise Android O on Facebook? We'll see what happens with that).
Should the cases have been ready before launch? Yes.
In Maze's defense, you can say it's still a new company - the Alpha is just the second product in the company's portfolio. Considering being a new player, Maze has done well so far and what I like is the company's isn't pushing 2-3 new phones every other month, which - hopefully - means the current portfolio of products will receive OTA updates and be maintained.
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Thanks for the reply!
I never said the weight was a surprise. I'm just stating my observation. It is the heaviest phone I have used and its slippery!
For a new company the quality is actually very good... some other names who have been around longer could learn a thing or two.
As I said, I'm getting by with it as my daily... though would feel much better if I had a case!
Have you had issues with the adaptive brightness? I'm hoping its something they can fine tune in the next update.... slow to respond to lighting changes if at all.... and in pitch darkness it still does not go all the way down.
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By the way thanks to Palm Trees for taking the time to put up all those tests. It really helps people get a non biased view of performance.
I hope you don't mind if I add a few more observations that people might find useful since there is so little info on the web besides the promotional press.
- Notifications work on the Alpha - as some of you can probably relate to, not all phones deliver notifications timely and reliably - but the Alpha does. (running my Z1 Pro at the same time sometimes see the same notifications come 10 min later or not at all)
- Bluetooth is reliable and stays connected. Currently paired to my LG Watch Urbane 2nd and its solid.
- GPS is acceptable which is more than many phones can provide (ie I had a Oneplus 3t before, and the GPS was garbage... slow to connect and could not stay connected and totally inaccurate - which is too bad cause I loved the 3t). The Alpha GPS locks on but there is a bit of drift here and there even in wide open circumstances. I test phones vigorously for GPS as the tall buildings and expressway ramps in Tokyo prove to be a great challenge and at the same time I test them in the suburbs where I live and there is much less interference. (honestly the Umi Z1 Pro has really good GPS!)
-Wifi range is below average. I'm 1m from my router and can't even get full bars. 10-15m away and throughput already starts failing.... not good.

gocchin said:
By the way thanks to Palm Trees for taking the time to put up all those tests. It really helps people get a non biased view of performance.
I hope you don't mind if I add a few more observations that people might find useful since there is so little info on the web besides the promotional press.
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No problem - happy to share and help
Sure, add as much you want to
I wont use it as a daily driver till I get a case. But of course I play around with the phone, more benchmarks will be added today as well.

Palm Trees said:
I wont use it as a daily driver till I get a case.
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Question is when will cases come out??
I have a hard time leaving a new toy on the bench so I matched the dimensions to another phone here in Japan and am using that case though the camera lenses are covered (which is fine cause the camera is not usable for me anyway).

gocchin said:
Question is when will cases come out??
I have a hard time leaving a new toy on the bench so I matched the dimensions to another phone here in Japan and am using that case though the camera lenses are covered (which is fine cause the camera is not usable for me anyway).
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Very soon it seems
https://www.facebook.com/MazeMobileGlobal/posts/1905055229745062

Added to OP: PCMark Work 2.0 battery life (full screen brightness) + Vellamo

root?
got my Alpha a few days ago. been looking for a way to root it. none of the one click rooters work.
anyone have any insight into whether this phone will get rooted soon? does root have to be developed for each phone separately or can they be ported over etc.?

If we could get a working TWRP RECOVERY, it would be easy to Root the maze alpha...
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Wrong Firmware on needrom!
Just an information for all who wants to flash the firmware or wants to port a TWRP recovery, the stockrom you'll find on needrom as maze alpha it's wrong!
This is doogee mix firmware!
Some stupid joke for the uploader!? Don't know.

I wrote an email to mazemobile about the wrong firmware an needrom.
They answered, that they don't upload this rom themselves! Maybe they will upload the stockromm on mazemobile.com but they don't know when....It's hard work..... Lol
So it will not possible to port a TWRP and impossible to root the maze alpha next time!
Sell it if you a root user!

I see that case Is now available in AliExpress at around 5 usd. The case material is not clear, but it looks tailored made for the phone protecting only the corners and the back of the phone.
http://s.aliexpress.com/uuYb6B7v

idanra said:
I see that case Is now available in AliExpress at around 5 usd. The case material is not clear, but it looks tailored made for the phone protecting only the corners and the back of the phone.
http://s.aliexpress.com/uuYb6B7v
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I asked Maze and that's the exact same link they sent to me, so I've ordered one

Guys,
Anyone knows how to fix the very low intensity of the vibration. I can't feel it in my pocket and I miss calls...
Anyone succeeded in rooting the device and trying to increase the motor speed?
Thanks...

RE: Maze Alpha bugs (vibration, etc)
Maze claims that volume, brightness and battery issues have been resolved in the latest official build (08/16). Perhaps vibration issues have been fixed too, as Maze claims other "optimizations". This build should also have the August security patches:
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0B8XLZxEJR8alOXVrdTZ1ZjdPdDA
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-maze-alpha-v0520170816-t3659190
BTW: Maze Alpha cases are all over eBay now. Wish someone would make something other than the checkerboard pattern... just a matter of being patient...

So i have PH-1 and 5t in hand...one is going back

I love the hardware on the ph-1 to the point the 5t feels like a phone from 1 or 2 years ago and I love the software on the 5t for the most part. Software is what you live with day to day and PH-1 has its issues. Screen doesn't respond always camera thing (why can i not shoot 16:9 photos argh) prefer oled but the lcd is pretty stunning. So i don't know what to do. Can somebody that really has really spent some time with the PH-1 and maybe know about the 5t tell me why I shouldn't or should keep that over 5t or will the little annoyances just get to me eventually. BTW huge user of AA so consider that as well.
Example of what i'm looking for when going to websites like Androidcentral the website takes advantage of the entire screen (the top) but where before i could could on the address and drag down to get to card view, on any site that does this I can have to click on the little card button...annoying. Or 5t i can zoom in full screen in youtube why can't i on ph-1. This is what i'm looking for. Thanks.
Oh and one other thing what pixel camera apk do i need to download to get better pictures/more options. I know there are ports and variation of ports some require some setup...looking for simple that give some level of hdr and if it's the one with full setup what setup should i have and keep. I know there are other pages but there are other phones million of responses constant update with in threads as opposed to updating the OP, thanks.

Honestly if your network supports the 1+5T stay with it.

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Honestly if your network supports the 1+5T stay with it.
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any more insight...it does. Consider this too i guess though money not really an object in this situation but OP5t with accessories about 650 (couple charges cover) Essential 399 with free 360 care which i will be quickly selling so for $300 bucks or so I for the phone which would allow me to quickly jump into something new in the spring when new stuff starts showing up again.

I had a OP5, and I know that for me custom ROM support and software are really missed, but I love the PH-1. This phone just looks and feels so much better for the price, I am willing to wait a while to see more dev support and official Oreo release. OnePlus has upset me in that they are now releasing 2 phones a year. I have had all their phones, but I think I will be taking a break from OP and just keeping the PH-1 for a while...

OP5T wins with the software. They have been working on their OS for almost 3 years so they know what they are doing. On the other hand, there is no other phone that looks and feels like the Essential, hardware is the best handsdown. There are some software issues, but to be honest I have non of it, everything works fine. I use mine in Mexico and in the US.
If you have good cellular reception with the PH1 I think you should keep it.

I personally am not a fan of OnePlus. If money truly isn't an issue, then I would go with the S8+. You can almost always find deals from Samsung on sites like Slickdeals and get it for a comparable price to 5t.
OnePlus has made it abundantly clear they don't care for their customers. I had three OnePluses since their first, and I can tell you first-hand that they are a terrible company. They don't like to honor their warranty and they make you pay for the shipping, and there's quite often problems with their phones... Then they only offer a year-and-a-half support for each device.
Essential has already stated that this phone will be updated for a very long time, especially since it's their first. I personally believe only things can go up from here, and their continuous support has proven that notion.
But it's up to you obviously go with whatever you like most.

Until recently I was on the market for a new phone. I had settled down on two choices: the PH-1 and OP 5T. Given that I had previously bought a OP2, I was trending towards a OP5T. But I ended getting the PH-1. Primarily because of OP's sofware update policy. It is downright unacceptable.
A couple of years ago, I bought my dad the OPT (OnePlus Two). They did not bother to push out Nougat update though Nougat arrived just a few months after the OPT. Ultimately I installed LineageOS on the OPT. But OP's software upgrade policy drove me away. Once bitten, twice shy.
One another reason I am disappointed with OP is their "no" to Treble support for existing devices as they upgrade to Oreo. Atleast they were straight about it, unlike other fiasco's like the data collection & push ads etc. Don't get me wrong. Not bashing OP for nothing. We love the OPT. Hardware still runs great with the LineageOS ROM.
But this time its the Essential PH-1. They have shown commitment to upgrade to Oreo with the beta on 11/14. Also some of the very recent updates to FW and to the camera app, the camera performance has improved significantly. The new portrait mode does bokeh very nicely. I would keep the PH-1!

i like to tinker with software so 5t has me interested at the same time I no longer want to root so really what it comes is is a bonus...i am leaning toward essential atm. WIll drive one for 1 week then the other for 1 week and see where i land. I hear you about the OP fiascos with the op2 etc i guess not to worried there. Not sure I like Rubin being away from essential i feel like he is the one pushing the boundaries there. I do like how quickly they have been updating...hope the wireless dock is not stupid...1 thing i really hate is no qi charging. I don't like samsung so that is out flirted with LG but don't like it enough to justify the price, if it was stock i would buy it all day long for what they charge.

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any more insight...it does. Consider this too i guess though money not really an object in this situation but OP5t with accessories about 650 (couple charges cover) Essential 399 with free 360 care which i will be quickly selling so for $300 bucks or so I for the phone which would allow me to quickly jump into something new in the spring when new stuff starts showing up again.
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The one plus has a better screen, more responsive digitizer, historical better development, longevity as a company, better camera, bigger battery, smoother release.
But.....
At that price differential the PH-1 probably wins out. My opinion that the 1+ is better assumes the 450$ essential VS a 550 1+

I'm having a hard time justifying keeping the PH1 and not getting the 5T. I still have my OP3 as a backup and I like everything better, but the size. I mean, build quality of the PH1 is amazing, but not the screen. Besides, the only time I ever get to admire the build quality is when I take it out of the case, which I won't go without. Even though my OP3 is 1½ yr old, the fluidity of the software with that screen is just so much better, not to mention the haptic feedback is perfect, not like the stupid overly strong haptic feedback on the PH1. I just love the size of the PH1, it's perfect. OP, I don't blame u asking for help making this decision. It is a really tough one. If I had to though, I would lean towards the 5T.
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Ive had the op2 and op5. When I bought the op2, I felt the value of my purchase was solid for 2 years, it was the best value phone hands down. Now oneplus had an upward trend of rising prices that suddenly peter out bc of some competition from the essential. On top of the fact that their T releases always are better than their main numbered releases just seems extremely counter intuitive. On top of all the negative press they've been getting, makes me really wonder about the integrity of the company. Could their prices be cheaper seeing as how premium the essential is in the same price range? Did they really not have the technology to push a bezeless phone on their op5 release? I no longer trust oneplus, and will reevaluate the phone market in 2 years or so when I'm ready for an upgrade. My op5 got stolen, and so far I'd love to keep using essential as long as they stick around in the same price range.
I always rock a 50 dollar otterbox on my ops, but so far have been just using a tempered glass protector with no problems. So factor in a 128 gb phone with otterbox would put the phone close to 600 whereas I paid 400 for the essential. The essential over op5t is a no brainer for me.

Last Monday morning I ordered the one +5T,then I seen the Amazon offer for the PH1 and it was a no-brainer ,I immediately ordered the PH1 and cancelled the 5T.Software can be tweaked and with the amount of updates essential are pushing ,it's only going to get better.Hardware your stuck with once purchased and nothing comes close to the PH1

Combat same story with me except I choose to receive both then decide. I don't care about the recent bad press of OP every manufacture has some kind of data collection and every manufacture has had this issue including Samsung...op responded and adjusted. I also don't care that op upgrades fast somebody always does on monthly basis might as well be op.
I do care however that op didn't come with Oreo basically allows op to not support the device as long and stop at 9 instead of 10. In fairness the phone will be gone by then but this kind of strategy from a company frustrated me more then the other two issues listed above.

PH-1. Design and build. Semi-pure Android. Ridiculous $145 price. Possibly unfounded hope for Essential as a company I'd like to see stick around. And I rarely take pictures of anything that isn't a whiteboard or my thumb.
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Are you switching /interesting for OnePlus 7 Pro

So guys oneplus 7 pro is just around the corner(less than a months before resealed)and according to latest news it will be the most advanced and of course the most expensive version in oneplus history.
Personal talking after after my 9 month usage of 5T I'm returning back to Oneplus since skipped both 6/6T as I hate whatever notch shape inside screen.
The latest rumors saying about major upgrade over all previous oneplus devices.
https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/04/...-variants-and-display-camera-battery-details/
https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/22/18510546/oneplus-7-5g-display-specs-pro-ceo-release
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Also OP7 Pro will offer stereo speakers as well type c 3.1 version.
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Only way I'll switch to it if they fix all the issues that's been plaguing them since the first device.
SW and Sources need to improve too..

Having a HTC phone every year for almost 2 decades, finally switched to the 6T. I have no complaints about OnePlus other than the camera software. Easily solved by switching to GCam. I am looking forward to the 7 Pro. Full screen, QHD with 90hz refresh. Pop up camera, I don't take a thousand selfies a day and welcome it. No damn worrying about it breaking, too slow or getting lint in there. I take care of my devices so if it does have curves sides, awesome. I use Shortcutter a lot so that would extra real estate for me and maybe a nice side panel notification area.

You might as well buy a Samsung Galaxy s10 for the price a op7 pro will cost,
Have a OnePlus 6T at the moment but it is pretty boring with no new/needed features ever added.
Looking at the Samsung a70/a80 now as being better and more affordable than the direction Oneplus are going

manus31 said:
You might as well buy a Samsung Galaxy s10 for the price a op7 pro will cost,
Have a OnePlus 6T at the moment but it is pretty boring with no new/needed features ever added.
Looking at the Samsung a70/a80 now as being better and more affordable than the direction Oneplus are going
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Well you should know that for many people it's not matter of how much cost one device compared to another but they are looking and take attention for a more important differentation between devices.
For example oneplus a very respective user base target group they don't care for Sammy or Huawei or Apple at all.
They don't care for dealing with One UI or EMIU or ios no matter they cost.
They are simple loving and prefer Oxygen and near stock android experience or simple prefer oneplus device because of the freedom brings.
Another reason is because many users hate notch or punch hols and prefer full screen experience.
So why should Sammy or Huawei be a choice for them??
Simple It is not all matter of cost or in other words I could say that some give more value to things that may have less value to other people.
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Nope, this is clearly where I get off the OnePlus train... Popup camera that just seems like is going to break, I still miss my head phone jack way more than I thought I would, if I'm going to keep paying more and more for a phone, why am I going to keep compromising...

manus31 said:
You might as well buy a Samsung Galaxy s10 for the price a op7 pro will cost,
Have a OnePlus 6T at the moment but it is pretty boring with no new/needed features ever added.
Looking at the Samsung a70/a80 now as being better and more affordable than the direction Oneplus are going
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You couldn't pay me to take a Samsung.

90 Hz refresh rate , UFS 3.0 storage, 4000 mAh with 30W charging, OxygenOS...."quite tasty".
And then no ingress protection, pop-up camera, not so useful 5G(yet) but higher price tag for it...not so tasty.

Op7 lookin boring ish, 7 pro does sounds cool from the leaks etc, but if they push it over 700 quid , no thank u, whole idea behind op was affordable devices with flagships specs etc, got a feeling that 7 pro is only a 5G model... Hope im wrong

I would take only if they release one pro model without 5G.. I wouldn't pay $100-$200 more for 5G which isn't ready yet...

Nope. I have decided to upgrade every 2-3 years at least. 5g won't be ready for another 1-2 at least so no point. Very happy with 6T and the support it's getting at xda

radekmazur said:
Nope. I have decided to upgrade every 2-3 years at least. 5g won't be ready for another 1-2 at least so no point. Very happy with 6T and the support it's getting at xda
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Definitely ,the whole 5G thing is stupid for most users (by far majority ) can't avail of the technology yet.
Why drive up prices with such useless feature just to say OnePlus is one of first with 5g enabled device,
what BS

manus31 said:
Definitely ,the whole 5G thing is stupid for most users (by far majority ) can't avail of the technology yet.
Why drive up prices with such useless feature just to say OnePlus is one of first with 5g enabled device,
what BS
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There will be three devices.
7
7 Pro
7 Pro 5G
I have no desire to switch.
I just got my 6T at the end of last year.

7 = NO !!! (they say it look the same like 6t)
7 Pro = Yes.
7 Pro 5G = ?!?... 5g not ok for now. = BIG price.

99.9% will be 3 variant.
1. Regular familiar to 6T design with upgrade SOC as basic differentation with 6T
2. Pro with premium features but without 5G
3. Pro the same as the second but with 5G and very limited availability(2-3 country in Europe will be released not in US through)
Of course I'm only interesting on Pro version but without 5G as totally useless for 1-2 years at minimum.
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So, why switch now if 5G will be ready in 1-2 years? If you have 6T you are good until 5G is ready. By then there will be plenty of 5G phones and prices will go down.
Don't get sucked in now into new features.
Phones are very expensive these days, save your money or put in Roth IRA, pay yourself first

As someone that owned an htc thunderbolt when Verizon's 4g network went live. Man the battery was killed on that 4g. Wondering if the same battery killing will happen on the 5g
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ozzmanj1 said:
As someone that owned an htc thunderbolt when Verizon's 4g network went live. Man the battery was killed on that 4g. Wondering if the same battery killing will happen on the 5g
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Guess we will have to wait until 2020 to tell, lol.
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radekmazur said:
So, why switch now if 5G will be ready in 1-2 years? If you have 6T you are good until 5G is ready. By then there will be plenty of 5G phones and prices will go down.
Don't get sucked in now into new features.
Phones are very expensive these days, save your money or put in Roth IRA, pay yourself first
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That's why everyone stated they will be leaning towards the 7 Pro withOUT 5G.

Nope. OP6T works, and this new one will be more expensive, and not have any substantial benefits, that would get me to buy it.
More power, not needed, brighter screen, not needed, fancy design not needed. For me, a phone is a tool. An extension of work. After work, unless someone calls me, I rarely touch it. It's "just a phone".
I know some get caught up in the newest fancy design & style, but, to me, it's "just a phone".

I am nearly 100% I will purchase the OnePlus 7 Pro (non-5G version). Specs / 90Hz display seems awesome!