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Hello. I'm currently using an LG G3, which is almost 2 years old already. Should I upgrade to OnePlus 2 or is it not worth the 200€ upgrade? Thanks.
pakatsui said:
Hello. I'm currently using an LG G3, which is almost 2 years old already. Should I upgrade to OnePlus 2 or is it not worth the 200€ upgrade? Thanks.
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You have a G3? Well, I had (and still have) a G2 before my OnePlus 2, I'm very disapointed about it. You should stay with your G3 or go for aa G4.
casual_kikoo said:
You have a G3? Well, I had (and still have) a G2 before my OnePlus 2, I'm very disapointed about it. You should stay with your G3 or go for aa G4.
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Why are you disappointed? My friend upgraded from Note 2 and likes it a lot. Says he hasn't had any problems yet in a month.
pakatsui said:
Why are you disappointed? My friend upgraded from Note 2 and likes it a lot. Says he hasn't had any problems yet in a month.
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So your friend might be lucky. I will not say that the OnePlus 2 is full of bugs, but he has some.
-Fingerprint scanner doesn't work very well for me;
-The processor (even if it is the "version 2.0" as OnePlus claims) can be hot sometimes;
-One point that make me very hungry is the fact that OnePlus doesn't release sources yet: ROM development is, because of it, very long: watch at G3 or G4, they already have a fully CM13, compare to the OnePlus Two (even with great works form developers) still doesn't have all features present (Fingerprint, Laser Autofocus, where are you?).
Of course the Oneplus Two is a great phone, but not the flagship killer claimed by OnePlus.
I bought it 'cause of the invite' system, but I was stupid. Think about twice before buy it, and watch phones from other companies.
casual_kikoo said:
So your friend might be lucky. I will not say that the OnePlus 2 is full of bugs, but he has some.
1-Fingerprint scanner doesn't work very well for me;
2-The processor (even if it is the "version 2.0" as OnePlus claims) can be hot sometimes;
3-One point that make me very hungry is the fact that OnePlus doesn't release sources yet: ROM development is, because of it, very long: watch at G3 or G4, they already have a fully CM13, compare to the OnePlus Two (even with great works form developers) still doesn't have all features present (Fingerprint, Laser Autofocus, where are you?).
Of course the Oneplus Two is a great phone, but not the flagship killer claimed by OnePlus.
I bought it 'cause of the invite' system, but I was stupid. Think about twice before buy it, and watch phones from other companies.
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1- You don't know how to scan your finger then. It works great, almost 99% of the times.
2- Phones get got, this isn't the exception, my nexus 5 gets a LOT hotter, and i have read that lg g3 heats a lot. I use it with modified thermal file (original is crap) and it works amazing and there is absolutely no throttle. Not even after 30m or more of heavy gaming!
3- You are right in this. But I guess they will release the source with marshmallow, in February probably.
Upgrade, you won't regret, and if you flash custom kernels and use modified thermal files you will discover the true power of this phone.
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Does the OP2 have Marshmallow yet? I installed stock MM on my G3 and it did wonders to the phone. A lot smoother, better battery life and only gets hot when I play cpu/gpu intensive games. Funny how G3 has a heavy skin and got MM before OP2, which is basically stock android with small extras.
Migdilu said:
1- You don't know how to scan your finger then. It works great, almost 99% of the times.
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Well, please, be respectful man.
And it's out that the OnePlus Two has fingerprint problems.
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pakatsui said:
Does the OP2 have Marshmallow yet? I installed stock MM on my G3 and it did wonders to the phone. A lot smoother, better battery life and only gets hot when I play cpu/gpu intensive games. Funny how G3 has a heavy skin and got MM before OP2, which is basically stock android with small extras.
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For now, OnePlus Two has unofficial ports of CM13:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/development/rom-temaseks-cyanogenmod-13-t3273271
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/development/6-0-1-unofficial-cyanogenmod-13-0-t3270496
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/development/6-0-x-cyanogenmod-13-oneplus-2-t3292436
etc.
casual_kikoo said:
Well, please, be respectful man.
And it's out that the OnePlus Two has fingerprint problems.
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For now, OnePlus Two has unofficial ports of CM13:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/development/rom-temaseks-cyanogenmod-13-t3273271
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/development/6-0-1-unofficial-cyanogenmod-13-0-t3270496
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/development/6-0-x-cyanogenmod-13-oneplus-2-t3292436
etc.
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It doesn't have any fingerprint problem. Of course if you scan only one part of your finger and don't try every possibly position while scanning it won't recognize your finger when you try to unlock, because it doesn't save the position you are trying. That's logical, but some people think that they put the center of the finger and then it will recognize it in every position.
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Migdilu said:
It doesn't have any fingerprint problem. Of course if you scan only one part of your finger and don't try every possibly position while scanning it won't recognize your finger when you try to unlock, because it doesn't save the position you are trying. That's logical, but some people think that they put the center of the finger and then it will recognize it in every position.
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I know how to scan my finger man, move it around to scan every "side" of my finger. But, well, if you know better than me how to scan your fingerprint and you have a OnePlus Two that matches every time, I'm happy for you, but I won't discuss about it anymore.
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I know how to scan my finger man, move it around to scan every "side" of my finger. But, well, if you know better than me how to scan your fingerprint and you have a OnePlus Two that matches every time, I'm happy for you, but I won't discuss about it anymore.
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There is nothing to discuss, someone is asking and I will answer the true, fingerprint sensor works great. Bye!
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casual_kikoo said:
You have a G3? Well, I had (and still have) a G2 before my OnePlus 2, I'm very disapointed about it. You should stay with your G3 or go for aa G4.
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I had G2, G3 and G4 as well, sold G4 to buy OnePlus 2? i don't Why you are disappointed? May be added Ram, or near stock bloat free OS, metal and premium or added finger bring scanner, or capacitive buttons to have larger screen hurting you? i am curious to know? i could not find out much difference, kindly don't tell me about camera, casual user is not optical expert here, both phones captures fine photos!
The fingerprintsensor is working fine for me too. The homebutton once had problems, in an earlier version of OxygenOS. But that is already history.
No one was disrespectful to you
casual_kikoo said:
So your friend might be lucky. I will not say that the OnePlus 2 is full of bugs, but he has some.
-Fingerprint scanner doesn't work very well for me;
-The processor (even if it is the "version 2.0" as OnePlus claims) can be hot sometimes;
-One point that make me very hungry is the fact that OnePlus doesn't release sources yet: ROM development is, because of it, very long: watch at G3 or G4, they already have a fully CM13, compare to the OnePlus Two (even with great works form developers) still doesn't have all features present (Fingerprint, Laser Autofocus, where are you?).
Of course the Oneplus Two is a great phone, but not the flagship killer claimed by OnePlus.
I bought it 'cause of the invite' system, but I was stupid. Think about twice before buy it, and watch phones from other companies.
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Well, how well you want it to work dude? it cant work with just intention without moving finger, place your finger in right direction it will work 95% or more time, once a day you can place your finger twice, don't lose heart due tot his There is no processor which will keep phone from getting hot if extensively used , i sold G4, you talk about CM13 and other roms working? it had no proper or easy root if you dont have one specific EU H815 model, and very few people have that, for others you have to do 500 steps, dont talk about roms, its as easy as Nexus for OP2.
Customs Roms in LG G4 wont bring finger print scanner either dude so relax and if scanner is dear to you, leave ROMS and use stock rom like a good boy
There is no phone that is called flagship killer, its just a catchy tag line, every phone has give and take, there is no perfect phone, just make sure which ever model you have, your unit is faulty.
The OPT isva really good phone, its not a great phone. No issues with fingerprint sensor here, the phone only gets warm when I wipe and flash. Oxygen OS isn't pure adroid, it cut back on s lot of features but if you like to root your phone then xposed module will fill in that gap. Custom roms are coming as soon as marshmallow is released all the 5.1 roms will be upgraded. The alert slider is a nice touch and having laser focus is almost a must nowadays. For the price it cant really be beat unless you drop down to the Moto X Pure that u will pay more for. Though on the other hand the G4 price is coming down and that really is a great phone.
Personally I'd go with the discounted nexus 5x (if its available in your country, it went down 50$ in the us). I'm very underwhelmed by the OnePlus 2. I've had bad issues with my bamboo back, the charger, oxygen os (paranoid android is fantastic, however), and also the processor. My battery life is pretty goof, but significantly worse than my OnePlus one. In addition, I don't understand why people are saying this phone doesn't have fingerprint issues. Of course it does, the manufacturing is ridiculously inconsistent. I know 4 people who personally own the OnePlus 2 and of this 4 there are 3 (including myself) with fingering issues. One only has the home button (no fingerprint) working, one has one that is very inconsistent, mine is 100% broken, and the last persons is flawless. When mine worked it was fantastic, don't get me wrong, but tons of people have had issues with it.
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Personally I'd go with the discounted nexus 5x (if its available in your country, it went down 50$ in the us). I'm very underwhelmed by the OnePlus 2. I've had bad issues with my bamboo back, the charger, oxygen os (paranoid android is fantastic, however), and also the processor. My battery life is pretty goof, but significantly worse than my OnePlus one. In addition, I don't understand why people are saying this phone doesn't have fingerprint issues. Of course it does, the manufacturing is ridiculously inconsistent. I know 4 people who personally own the OnePlus 2 and of this 4 there are 3 (including myself) with fingering issues. One only has the home button (no fingerprint) working, one has one that is very inconsistent, mine is 100% broken, and the last persons is flawless. When mine worked it was fantastic, don't get me wrong, but tons of people have had issues with it.
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Nexus 5X 32GB is 450 euros here, while LG G4 is around 430.
It's it just my device or is this fingerprint reader garbage. I tried all the tricks, setting the printer in dark rooms, light rooms, and no matter what, it almost always never unlocks the phone, I mean 1 out of 10 times if I'm lucky. So is it just my device and should I rma or are you guys experiencing the same. Thank God face unlock is beast tho
It's the phone..the fingerprint scanner sucks. Thank God face lock works well..and fast
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After the update it feels faster for some reason....idk what's going on with other people's devices
Not garbage but not perfect. Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet on latest and greatest.
Mine works fine. Maybe not as fast as a physical scanner but well enough. It was somewhat annoying before the update but it's much faster after the update. (TMobile variant)
This finger scanner sucks. I don't even care about it unlocking the phone. I care about all the other apps I use the fingerprint for
I just reset my finger print in a darker room and added both thumbs twice.
It's taking half the time to unlock the phone now.
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I mean, it doesn't even unlock my phone most of the time, I am not talking about speed, I'm saying it doesn't even work
I haven't had any problems beside fingerprint beeing slower that physical one. I use with my bank account and other fingerprint apps that actually works faster than when unlocking the phone. I have unlocked version.
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So it's not as fast, but it seems to work as consistently as my Pixel 2XL. I'm happy with it.
millerd79 said:
I just reset my finger print in a darker room and added both thumbs twice.
It's taking half the time to unlock the phone now.
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I read about the dark room thing somewhere else as well and just tried it. Seems to be working more accurately but we'll have to see if that lasts.
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jdiddy_ub said:
I read about the dark room thing somewhere else as well and just tried it. Seems to be working more accurately but we'll have to see if that lasts.
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I just don't see why they have concentrated on the fingerprint scanner to be honest. Make the faceunlock more secure.....for me that's the future
It's yours, no problem with mine
Be specific as to what model you have. My scanner has been good right out the box on 9.0.5
Works 9/10 of the time no lag.
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My scanner has easily been 9 outta 10 and barely slower than on my pixel 3. Works way better than I was expecting.
It's all in how you train your prints!!
Same good experience for me. Nearly 100% on first press.
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Mine is in no way as fast as the 3XL was, that one was instant, this one is not. It is however completely reliable so long as I actually put my finger over the print icon. I only miss it on the odd occasion and I will invariably notice that I was off the sweet spot when it happens. Mine is reasonably quick, I touch and give it just a bit of a delay, a hesitation, before I pull off and it goes through fine.
The reason they don't put further work into the face unlock is that it can be defeated with a picture and this cant be fixed unless they embed more tech to get full 3D facial ID. This isn't really the end game though, ultrasonic fingerprint scanning is where everyone is going for now. Even Apple is working on the tech (based on recent patent filings) because no matter how good face gets it cant work off the desk without 360 degree off axis camera coverage which while technically possible isn't going to work any better than ultrasonic because you still have to touch the phone to get it a wake up. Somewhere I read the rumor that Apple will use both to enable 2 factor bio for banking and other secure apps. Presumably either would be good enough to light up the phone? Anyhow it sounds like the ultrasonic is quite a lot better. It's easy to have the entire bottom or even all of the screen hot for authentication, it's faster, more accurate, doesn't require an icon on screen for exactly where you need to touch which removes the screen burn in problem with having the sensor on the AOD.
I think most of you remember when there was no "good" fingerprint scanner. Even the iphone was a cludge when it first hit. I'm thinking it was the S6 where I first had it and I wanted to throw that phone out the window. I'm feeling pretty good about them getting embedded scanners up to snuff and relatively soon. I'm thinking it was the 3T where I first had rock solid 100% working scanning and that wasn't long after the S6. Meanwhile we're leading the charge, pioneers, marching boldy into the future...
Umm for me it works like 95%... Maybe 1 time per day I have to retry...
Its awesome ?
I redid my prints for a 3 time and this time focused more on center then the top of my finger. Seems to be working alot better
99% accurate for me and more than fast enough to not notice a real delay.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Motorola Razr (2019), all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Motorola Razr (2019) is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Just watched the video, looks amazing. But somehow it didn't seem like the specs were superior. I love the concept, and I think it's an innovative design that should pick up interest due to the compact nature of the device, but I have concerns about the build quality and performance. In the video, after it is flipped open, you can see briefly a bend in the screen, which makes me wonder if it smoothes out when all the way open. Also, the camera seemed sluggish when using the shake gesture, unless it was designed to have (what I thought was) a noticable delay. The processor speed, the battery size/performance, are things I'm hoping will prove to be above average, to amazing. We shall see.
Oh, also not stoked about it being carrier locked. Not to mention the $1499 price tag.... Yikes!
This its true.
The price is unreasonably high.
I know that some months passed, and meanwhile other flipphones made their path aiming at our pockets & wallets, but I am still enloved of this phone...
I know it's a bad thing, it's overpriced, the specification does not justify this purchase, but I am still waiting for a good chance to put in in my rear pocket.
So far I love mine. Coming from a Note 10+ the only issues I've notice screen color isn't as rich as the Note 10+. But it's not bad either.
Performance is fine. Apps take maybe a half second longer to load, if that. No real sluggishness that I've been able to notice.
Another thing is lack of wireless charging is kinda a bummer, but I just bought a quick charge compatible dock I slide it onto at night.
Battery life is actually good. I typically still have about 30-40% left at the end of a full day.
Granted most of my battery usage is playing free cell on the toilet at work.
Edit: One thing I do think Moto dropped the ball on is when I had a Z2 Force I could use gestures with the fingerprint sensor to operate the back, home and task manager. Once you enabled this it also removed them from the screen unless you were using the fingerprint sensor for security.
Minnion2008;82962205One thing I do think Moto dropped the ball on is when I had a Z2 Force I could use gestures with the fingerprint sensor to operate the back said:
Using the one button navigation on the fingerprint scanner isn't allowed for devices which use google mobile services and Android 9. A lot of lost features are because of the requirements that Google puts on device makers and which versions of Android they are ship with. Everyone clamoring for the latest Android doesn't realize that certain options are OS dependent. Image how much less you'd have to physically interact with the screen if you could use the fingerprint navigation. I am sure older prototypes had that enabled but it got disabled as Android versions changed
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Using the one button navigation on the fingerprint scanner isn't allowed for devices which use google mobile services and Android 9.
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My Z2 Force had android 9 on it...
Minnion2008 said:
My Z2 Force had android 9 on it...
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If you want to go through https://source.android.com/compatibility and see the requirements for devices that launch with a certain OS and devices that update to a certain OS you'll see what I mean. The Z2 Force launched with Nougat and was upgraded to Pie. The rules for how a device is expected to behave when launching with an OS level and when upgrading to an OS level are different. Google didn't mandate things about it's gesture navigation back in Nougat so Motorola was able to implement it as they wished. Required apps at one OS release are different at another. This is one reason why I'm not keen on being first to have the latest android level since things you might enjoy (like Moto Voice) are gone in later releases.
Ok so ive always been a Nexus/Pixel guy, Had the Galaxy Nexus Nexus 5 Nexus 6P and Pixel 2 XL (current phone)
Mainly for fast updates
Always get new "Google" features first
Easy Root / Substratum
Buuuuuuut the Pixel 3, 3a Especially the 4, 4A were all a huge MEH and the 5 looks to be the biggest MEH ever.
So ive been looking at the OnePlus 8 Pro looking through the forums it reminds me of the Nexus days with ROMS and Kernals MODs etc.
A few questions though before i pull the trigger (still trying to come to grips with a $900 price tag for a OnePlus)
Ill probably try to use the phone without rooting but most likely end up rooting.
1. Netflix L1/L3 Widevine. Can someone give me a definitive answer as to if we can get HD with unlocked bootloaders. I am getting conflicting info going though the forum. Some posts say NO. Some say they got it working through certain root methods.. Some say they have it working running certain custom roms or custom kernals or Magisk moduals such as XXX No Limits. And them some say that after a certain OP official update that it now works.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8-pro/help/bootloader-widevine-l1-t4092027
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8-pro/help/custom-rom-allow-hd-netflix-rooted-t4092093
2. Notification Light
All my Nexi/Pixels had a notification light and i used Light Manager to make them flash different colors and speeds depending on the app etc.
I know that the OP8 and most phones now a days dont have the light. But i see things like AODNotify do these apps work well? I dont really like AOD and always had it turned off on the pixel.
Any info is appreciated.
I sold my pixel 4xl for the OnePlus 8 Pro. Honestly, I regret it.
Even with gcam the camera doesn't come close. 8 should have waited for the pixel 5 ? I feel like the pixel phones are very simplistic, bit you get a very solid experience with them. I can't stand the curved edges of the op8pro and the camera is worse that what I had before, which kills me. If someone makes a pixel experience ROM I'll be happy but even then I won't be able to install my banks app due to root. The grass isn't always greener, friend.
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I sold my pixel 4xl for the OnePlus 8 Pro. Honestly, I regret it.
Even with gcam the camera doesn't come close. 8 should have waited for the pixel 5 I feel like the pixel phones are very simplistic, bit you get a very solid experience with them. I can't stand the curved edges of the op8pro and the camera is worse that what I had before, which kills me. If someone makes a pixel experience ROM I'll be happy but even then I won't be able to install my banks app due to root. The grass isn't always greener, friend.
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Yeah the P4XL to me was a step backward. I NEED a finger print reader. Faceunlock is dumb. SOLI or w/e it was called was a huge let down. And it was really the only "new" feature of the phone.
I would normally get a Pixel 5 but sorry a Snapdragon 765G really? And it will still cost probably $800+
I ditched the 3XL for the 8Pro before the payoff date and I don't have regrets. Yeah, the camera was nice but I had other reasons.
I see PE has built a ROM for the Nord but not the 8/8Pro, maybe one is coming......
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Oh. The curved edge was weird at first but I've adapted....
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I had exactly the same thoughts like you, but I came from the Pixel 1.
I didn't regret it one second going to Oneplus 8 Pro!
The updates are quick and much more easy to flash then I used to. Indeed, the phone is larger, but I knew that when I bought it.
First I thought root wasn't necessary but I ended up rooting and, again, it's much easier to do then with the Pixel.
I don't use netflix L1/L3 widevine but there's a thread about it somewhere on this forum
Notification light: there are moreapps but I use aodNotify and it works like a charm. (I have 3% battery consumption over the night, several colors eso) But: that's my experience.
Conclusion: for me it was and still is a go.
I hope it helps you with your decision.
Have already given my thoughts about moving to OnePlus from any other phone from the past or even currently available.
In short, it's a resounding yes.
Nice im sooooooo close to pulling the trigger.
It looks like according to what i can find. That as of update 10.5.10 (i think it was) that with a unlocked bootloader and proper Magisk Hide that you can get L1. And that was my biggest concern.
Sure the camera isnt as good but i dont think i use it enough (or enough where i would really look at the quality of a pic) to worry THAT much. I mainly use it to send a pic via MMS or RCS when i see something interesting at the store and send it to a friend or family member lol.
And i think a Snapdragon 865 and a larger 120hz 1440p display and super fast storage/RAM will suit me better then not those things but a good camera (Pixel 5)
This badboy OnePlus 8 Pro is the sweetest ride... especially on XDA!
I have pulled the trigger and am looking forward to it.
I bought the IN2020 version and was wondering if I'll be missing anything that the global IN2023 has?
Any thoughts?
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krolla03 said:
Nice im sooooooo close to pulling the trigger.
It looks like according to what i can find. That as of update 10.5.10 (i think it was) that with a unlocked bootloader and proper Magisk Hide that you can get L1. And that was my biggest concern.
Sure the camera isnt as good but i dont think i use it enough (or enough where i would really look at the quality of a pic) to worry THAT much. I mainly use it to send a pic via MMS or RCS when i see something interesting at the store and send it to a friend or family member lol.
And i think a Snapdragon 865 and a larger 120hz 1440p display and super fast storage/RAM will suit me better then not those things but a good camera (Pixel 5)
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You should be concerned about this if you need bank apps etc .
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/03/11/safetynet-improvements-kill-magisk-hide/
Daniel Hjelvik said:
You should be concerned about this if you need bank apps etc .
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/03/11/safetynet-improvements-kill-magisk-hide/
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Root is always on the chopping block. The only thing i really use root for on my Pixel 2 XL anymore is to use Substratum
The op8T/Tpro is so close to coming out is it not worth waiting for that?
Pearzilla said:
The op8T/Tpro is so close to coming out is it not worth waiting for that?
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Yes i might do this. Because then the OP8 Pro will be cheaper
Once starting to use the phone normally, I've noticed that it seems to miss quick swipes on occasion. It either ignores it all together when it happens, or it interprets them as a tap, landing either where the swipe starts or where it ends. It's only noticeable when doing very short, quick swipes. Some people may not even do them this short but I'm sure many power users are doing it. See the video clips below for an example and a comparison with a p30 pro which doesn't miss once while the note 20 ultra misses swipe after swipe after swipe.
I literally have to slow down my pace to not have a swipe missed here and there. It quickly turns into an annoyance and the price tag adds to that anger. This SHOULD NOT be an issue at a phone with this kind of performance and quality. I've tested this on two note 2 ultras, both are similar. Both exynos, if that matters. S-pen works great, can do the smallest of curves, but a quick swipe is apparently too much to bare.
Anyone else noticing this? I haven't removed the pre installed screen guard, nor do I want to.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Qn745vGg5ArGv6SBA
I uploaded a detailed video showcasing the issue and explaining how to test it yourself. I'm surprised nobody seems to have taken note of this yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqZQY37SI9o&feature=youtu.be
TigerSoul925 said:
I uploaded a detailed video showcasing the issue and explaining how to test it yourself. I'm surprised nobody seems to have taken note of this yet.
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I don't have any issues myself nor do I use any third party launchers. But maybe its something to do with adaptive refresh rate. Try turning on 60 htz and see if it still happens
Do you have the original screen protector on, I had a similar issue with the S10 or S9 where by the screen protector created this drag. After removing it then it was fluid.
Yeah mine too. CAnt figure it out.
alfamega190 said:
I don't have any issues myself nor do I use any third party launchers. But maybe its something to do with adaptive refresh rate. Try turning on 60 htz and see if it still happens
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I tried 60hz as well as increased sensitivity, even higher resolution. Nothing makes a difference. 3rd party launchers seem to make a bit of difference but using oneui launcher isn't taking the problem away completely. I think it works better in oneui simply because Samsung allowed smaller swipes to trigger the action in their own launcher which in a way worries me as it may mean that they are aware of the issue and did what they could to hide it from the user.
themarques said:
Do you have the original screen protector on, I had a similar issue with the S10 or S9 where by the screen protector created this drag. After removing it then it was fluid.
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I tried in a store where there were no screen guards left on the phone. It may have helped a bit but did not take the problem away.
dottat said:
Yeah mine too. CAnt figure it out.
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Yeah gee, let me think...
Tried to replicate this. Its not that it misses quick swipes, there is just a threshold for a swipe to register, really short swipes don't register as swipes. I don't think this is a bug.
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Tried to replicate this. Its not that it misses quick swipes, there is just a threshold for a swipe to register, really short swipes don't register as swipes. I don't think this is a bug.
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Did you check out the video with the comparison to the P30 Pro?
You may very well be right that it is a set threshold that Samsung just considered being the right setting. However, the S20 Ultra does not exhibit this behavior, nor does any other Samsung phone as far as the ones that I've tested and owned previously. Not even the other notes. Something is different with this phone, whether it being a hardware issue, software issue or just a setting (that the custom cannot set).
I'm not so certain it's just a setting however. If you turn on the debugging feature used in the video, you will see that the interpretation of the short swipe is a lot shorter on the Note 20 ultra than it is on the P30 Pro. I'm afraid THIS is the culprit. If the screen reports a much shorter swipe on short swipes, then of course the software can do little to improve upon this with thresholds etc.
One could argue too that this is nitpicking, but in actual usage for me, I keep hitting this problem again and again and it does virtually never happen on any other phone. That turns it into a problem for me and I'm sure there are more people out their swiping in a similar way
TigerSoul925 said:
Did you check out the video with the comparison to the P30 Pro?
You may very well be right that it is a set threshold that Samsung just considered being the right setting. However, the S20 Ultra does not exhibit this behavior, nor does any other Samsung phone as far as the ones that I've tested and owned previously. Not even the other notes. Something is different with this phone, whether it being a hardware issue, software issue or just a setting (that the custom cannot set).
I'm not so certain it's just a setting however. If you turn on the debugging feature used in the video, you will see that the interpretation of the short swipe is a lot shorter on the Note 20 ultra than it is on the P30 Pro. I'm afraid THIS is the culprit. If the screen reports a much shorter swipe on short swipes, then of course the software can do little to improve upon this with thresholds etc.
One could argue too that this is nitpicking, but in actual usage for me, I keep hitting this problem again and again and it does virtually never happen on any other phone. That turns it into a problem for me and I'm sure there are more people out their swiping in a similar way
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I doubt many people can even replicate this to really find it an issue. I will consciously trying and could barely get it to miss and I have a screen protector on.
And bare in mind that this is a new phone with different hardware than previous phones, even other Samsung. It won't necessarily behave the same.
qzan7 said:
I doubt many people can even replicate this to really find it an issue. I will consciously trying and could barely get it to miss and I have a screen protector on.
And bare in mind that this is a new phone with different hardware than previous phones, even other Samsung. It won't necessarily behave the same.
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How long are you lines getting when you're "really trying to make it fail" so to speak? Are they similarly short to what I'm getting? It's so hard to qualify this too as it relies on human muscle moment and habits. It may seem like nitpicking to some but my phone really misses swipes here and there at an annoying rate. This could be me doing things oddly but it could also mean differences in screens. It's hard to tell really.
I think the phone is registering super short swipes as a fat finger tap instead of swipes.
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I think the phone is registering super short swipes as a fat finger tap instead of swipes.
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That may be correct. It may very well be a preventative for unintended swipes [emoji23] but it screw things up in another direction.
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TigerSoul925 said:
That may be correct. It may very well be a preventative for unintended swipes [emoji23] but it screw things up in another direction.
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My old Note 10+ does the same. So it's not just a Note 20 Ultra issue. Its definitely software.
WingedCow said:
My old Note 10+ does the same. So it's not just a Note 20 Ultra issue. Its definitely software.
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Oh! I tried an older note in the store, can't remember the model, but it did not seem to do this. But maybe it is a widespread Samsung thing then? I also tried an s20 ultra and it didn't seem to do this either. But I could be wrong as I couldn't enable developer tools on the in store phones to truly compare the lines.
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TigerSoul925 said:
Oh! I tried an older note in the store, can't remember the model, but it did not seem to do this. But maybe it is a widespread Samsung thing then? I also tried an s20 ultra and it didn't seem to do this either. But I could be wrong as I couldn't enable developer tools on the in store phones to truly compare the lines.
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It was a freshly factory reset note 10+ cause I reset it after moving everything to the note 20 ultra. Latest firmware and everything. I use the pattern unlock and the pattern line was visible for unlocking. It dropped the first short swipe for pattern unlock.
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It was a freshly factory reset note 10+ cause I reset it after moving everything to the note 20 ultra. Latest firmware and everything. I use the pattern unlock and the pattern line was visible for unlocking. It dropped the first short swipe for pattern unlock.
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Sure is interesting. Maybe this is just how Samsung has things set up on all phones and I just couldn't verify from not having developer tools access. Who knows.
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