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What do you think the G4 is missing/what could the G5 have to be perfect?

So MKBHD just released a video regarding the perfect smart phone and how the inherent definition of perfect in a smartphone constantly changes. A year ago, not many people were too keen on a fingerprint scanner, now with Android M coming up, it feels like a fingerprint scanner is almost vital to be in contention of the best/closest to perfect android smartphone there is. I feel as if the G4 is currently the closest thing to perfect right now (for me).
Wishlist for the G5:
Fingerprint scanner that doubles as a power button in the back of the phone. I think if LG incorporate a similar button that Samsung has adopted in terms of the home button acting as both a fingerprint scanner and a power button, they'll have a great product in their hands. Android pay is going to be massive and confirmation of a purchase via a fingerprint scanner seems like something that is vital in order to be labeled as the best/closest to perfect smartphone out there. Granted, the current home button in the back of the phone is small and probably can't serve as an accurate scanner, but I'm hoping LG can do something about that, or they can implement some relatively new screen technology that can read fingerprints anywhere on the front of the screen and retain the same button size in the back. Either way, some sort of fingerprint scanner is going to be needed as more and more manufacturers are using it.
Thin down the bezels again. The G4 is actually larger than the G3 despite having the same screen size. I personally feel 5.5" is perfect, whereas 5.7" is pushing it a bit, and 6" is at the edge of unusable. If LG decide to keep the 5.5" screen, hopefully they can thin down the phone again and have it at G3 size, or if possible - thinner (which I doubt).
Retain key mantras of the G4. If LG stray away from expandable storage and a removable back, they'll pretty much lose the battle for best smartphone. Many of us love the G4 for its current abilities, if LG toss those abilities aside - they'll have very upset people. I don't see the camera getting much better, so if they decide to keep the same lens/camera, they'll be fine.
The last thing I can say is rather subjective because it's software related. If there's one thing I absolutely loved about my Xperia Z3+ and N6, it's the fact that they had close to stock/stock Android software. I feel like Sony had the best iteration of Android out there. I really dislike certain aspects of LG's UI. Things like the pull down menu, the unlock (where you have to swipe regardless of double tapping a notification), unlock animation, bloatware, etc. I just prefer a stock look, feel, and speed. The G4 is plenty fast, but I just wonder how fast it'd be with stock software (we'll hopefully see how quick it is with some great guys working at a CM12.1 ROM, good luck guys!)
What do you guys think? What can LG do to make the G5 the best phone out there? I know the G4 was only recently released, but it's always fun speculating and/or wishing.

have software that isn't a pile of **** when the phone goes on sale. The OS at launch was hardly what I would use as a daily driver.
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If I could just have Sony's ui and smoothness with the G4 hardware attributes in a OnePlus 2 design I would be ecstatic.
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give me some front facing speakers, water resistant and a fingerprint reader on the back(power button too) and I think it would be perfect. Would love to see a google play edition too for pure android and quick updates but maybe that is bonus.

Get rid of soft/on screen buttons. I like my home/back/menu buttons on the bottom bezel, like the Galaxy S4. They are always there & alive. I don't have to swipe up or tap the status bar, to "wake" them, and then the button I want.

• An unlocked bootloader for all models.
• Don't make 10 million variants with different sets of bands unlocked; Just make a few variants with all the bands unlocked, just with basic differences such as language.
• Don't put useless bloatware on it

Knowbody42 said:
• An unlocked bootloader for all models.
• Don't make 10 million variants with different sets of bands unlocked; Just make a few variants with all the bands unlocked, just with basic differences such as language.
• Don't put useless bloatware on it
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You bring up a very good point here. I don't understand why iPhone's are fairly universal in their bands and what not but android users need to stay aware of it. Such a shame, really.
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The phone is close to perfect for me, except for my horribly unresponsive, laggy touch screen. I've been willing to put up with that due to the rest of the phone being so good.
There is a potential deal breaker though. If we don't get TWRP and custom ROMs for all models soon, this phone is going to be a fail, as good as it otherwise is. Makes me sad too because I paid a premium for this phone at launch and I'm stuck with it even if we never get full control.

gboybama said:
The phone is close to perfect for me, except for my horribly unresponsive, laggy touch screen. I've been willing to put up with that due to the rest of the phone being so good.
There is a potential deal breaker though. If we don't get TWRP and custom ROMs for all models soon, this phone is going to be a fail, as good as it otherwise is. Makes me sad too because I paid a premium for this phone at launch and I'm stuck with it even if we never get full control.
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Yep. Going to wait until the Nexus 5 drops and then I will probably be selling my G4. Software is bull**** and the mod community is non-existent for my edition. Took MONTHS for root like wtf? lol

AMOLED screen
Front Facing Speakers
Reasonable resolution for performance/battery life

SD820 is all I want, for better batterylife. Had the G4 since the start, and I haven't had any problem with software or lag, barely felt any difference between the updates. I have an unlocked version and only apps in it from start were LG and Google, zero extra bloat.
Don't care much for fingerprint scanner, and would only prefer one when it gets integrated in the display.
Waterproof would be nice, but not a huge concern.

I want a g4 with front facing stereo speakers and a better audio processor/dac
Also don't get why everyone wants a finger print scanner. Just like face unlock they will never be as secure as a pin or swipe code. Had one on my old laptop that let nearly anyone in not sure if finger print reading technology has changed since then or not..

My wishlist is unchanged for the last few years - multiple day battery life, unbreakable screen, water proofing.
I can deal with the rest
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I want
- metal frame with back leather or metal
- front facing stereo speaker
- 100% quality Jpeg and Raw
- No more mic zoom which change the sound weirdly
- Fingerprint I don't really care, but why not because all flagships will have it.
- better dac ?
- more curved ?
- and better battery life like all smartphones...
The G4 is already great otherwise.

I want:
-unibody made of unobtainium
-optical zoom up to 20x
-battery made of nanotubes that can charge in 5 minutes and can give us 24h SOT
-4 axis OIS
-dna scanner for better protection

Heisenberg420 said:
I want a g4 with front facing stereo speakers and a better audio processor/dac
Also don't get why everyone wants a finger print scanner. Just like face unlock they will never be as secure as a pin or swipe code. Had one on my old laptop that let nearly anyone in not sure if finger print reading technology has changed since then or not..
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Fingerprint scanners have vastly changed since they were used in old laptops. The Huawei Ascend Mate 7 that I have is a very clear example of that. The fingerprint scanner works 95% of the time as long as you record it properly. It's also extremely fast despite running Huawei's bloated software too. No one could get into the phone either, unless they had my pin code of course. Fingerprint scanners have come a very long way.
My G4 still misses plenty of double taps when I try to wake it, it gets very frustrating at times. Having a fingerprint scanner would fix that issue, as long as the scanner is accurate of course.

An unlocked bootloader and some decent development.
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Unlocked bootloader
Not full of bloatware
Buttons on the side/top
Actual fast charging (and support for it with the included charger)
Water resistance

- No fingerptint or front stereo bull****, instead of this i want much much much thinner bezels
- No more soft onscreen buttons
- USB- C
- Removable back cover, bigger battery and microSd support
- Carbon- kevlar body and frame
- 5.5" FHD display for better battery life
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Krokogator said:
I want:
-unibody made of unobtainium
-optical zoom up to 20x
-battery made of nanotubes that can charge in 5 minutes and can give us 24h SOT
-4 axis OIS
-dna scanner for better protection
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First Impression and After Use Thread

CONGRATS on your purchase,
I know a lot of us have already received our devices, and some haven't. If you have received your new phone, post your first impressions. After using the device some, also post what little tricks you may have found, what you have fell in love with and what you dislike or absolutely hate. Also, what was your previous phone and are you enjoying your upgrade? I'll start by saying first impression is I love the size and screen. Real quick thing I do absolutely hate is Bixby. Tried it out a few times from the button, sucked. And the image recognition got me a little excited, but disappointed. I must also add, the face recognition is amazingly fast.

I use only FACE RECOGNITION - it is very fast, works 99% and I don't think one will steal, shoot a photo, print it... and so on.
It is the fastest and easy way to unlock the phone, I was wearing a hoodie and it worked very very well.
I am not the NSA, so face recognition is enough for me and I am happy that it is as fast as it is...
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My Initial Thoughts
I received my Orchid Gray 64GB T-Mobile device yesterday around 5 PM EST. I have had a few hours to mess around with the device as a result. Here are my first impressions:
1. The screen is absolutely gorgeous. Samsung really hit it out of the park with this one. The images are clear, crisp, vibrant, and with absolutely zero pixels to the naked eye. This holds true even when the device is held close to the face. With that being said.... there are definitely some app and media content compatibility issues. Samsung tries to alleviate this with some built in cropping and optimization from the software side of things, but it just can't hide the fact that the content has quite caught up with the hardware. That is on the development community, though, and not Samsung.
2. Biometrics are the way to go when it comes to logging into and working your way through this device. The iris scanner isn't perfect, but, it is absolutely light years ahead of the tech that we had a taste of in the Note 7. The iris scanner ALMOST feels like a feature at this point, rather than a gimmick. With that being said. The fingerprint scanner is total weak sauce. This doesn't so much have anything to do with the actual location as it does the accuracy ratio of the scanner itself. I have long and thin fingers which make the placement of the fingerprint scanner a nonissue for me. To each their own. I would say that the accuracy is more a constant miss than a hit. I find myself using a combination of smart lock and the iris scanner with a pin to keep me going and it works well for me. I have not tried the facial recognition yet.
3. The device is blisteringly fast. There isn't any argument to be had here. Everything flies from web page scrolling to scrolling through the Playstore to loading apps from memory. No management issues yet that I have been able to spot. The only limitations are those of your data connection. The Snapdragon 835 is a thing of beauty.
4. The actual hardware absolutely oozes quality from the orchid color to the excess of gorilla glass and metal. The device is thin but not flimsy and big but not too heavy. Home run as per usual.
5. I am still working through battery life. I know it takes a few days for your software to settle so i'll report back at a later point with an update. Thus far, though, it is AT LEAST no worse than my Pixel XL. It might be a bit better but it is too early to tell. With that being said. The Pixel XL has faster fast charging. This sucker takes a bit to charge up. Not as long as it could take, but there is faster on the market.
6. My final point and my biggest issue with the device is primarily software. Whereas I felt that Samsung had finally reached a place of beauty with the final Marshmallow builds on the S7 Edge. The Nougat Touchwiz, or Grace, or whatever it is called these days feels like a bit of a step back. The software hasn't reached that point of optimization that the Pixel XL has nor even the level that the S7 Edge had. It feels more like the early Grace UX on the Note 7. There are scaling issues. The menus aren't always arranged in the best way. There is some scrolling jank in terms of the actual Android menus and whatnot. I feel that it probably has to do with an experience that wasn't quite optimized for such a unique screen, yet. I am hoping this will improve over time. I won't really hold it against Samsung. I mean, perhaps I am just spoiled after having been a Pixel XL user from the beginning but I won't say it necessarily works in their benefit yet, either. The S7 Edge felt polished. This experience still feels like a work in progress. Of course.....as of 420/17 we haven't even had a day one patch yet since day one is tomorrow...so......to be continued.
Feel free to ask me any questions if there is something I have missed. I feel like there is a lot I have left unstated.
EDIT: One additional thought. S7 Edge era standing wireless charging cradles are not completely compatible with the 8+ I have one and have tried it. The wireless charging cycles between connect and disconnect because the device is too tall for the cradle. The hardware inside as a result sits just at the edge of the top of the cradle and provides an inconsistent connection. This can be alleviated by sitting the device on the cradle sideways...but who wants to do that? Lol!

First impression...I no like it so much.
After playing with it all night tho, I like it. I got the 64gb s8+ and it's a lil tall but I think I'll grow into it. The fingerprint scanner that everyone is making such a huge deal about is in a great spot for me. When I go to pull it out of my pocket my finger falls right there and it's unlocked B4 I even look at the screen. The audio out of the akg headphones is great and it's even better in my car. Battery life, well, it's at 71% now and it's been on since about 7pm yesterday (10:49am now) and that's with heavy use. My only real gripe with it so far is I want to remap the bixby button to launch the camera. I think that would be perfect...Hope you guys are having fun with your new toys like I am

I've found it to be pretty snappy! I love the iris scanning, it works even with my glasses on. It is actually really easy to use one handed, with a rare supporting off hand assist.
The screen is of course impressive.
I've had 3 occasions where I needed to reboot the device because either an app refused to load. Play Store once, setting TW as my launcher (I was using Nova on my S7E so after smart switch when I pressed the home key it asked which launcher to set as default) and then trying to enable "Ok Google" where it didn't hear me. As an early adopter, I expect that there may be possible hiccups.

Not crazy about lock screen music player...Wish there were other options for that... Seems like I have to make sure I'm hitting exactly in the right spot to skip songs.
Becomes a bit of a annoyance when having to hit the button repeatedly to switch a song...

I'm currently at work and I have 4 bar signal while in the basement. My Note 7, S7, LG V20 got 2-3 or no bars. I'm extremely happy due to this. More to follow and im glad i got it.
took forever for Iris scanner to register my iris properly

Its a great phone overeall.
Fast and great looking screen. Feels really good in the hand.
I got the s8 plus and im able to access everything on the phone.
The fingerprint sensor works. I can have the phone in my right hand and press the power with my thumb and finger on the sensor.
The home key took a bit to get use to. I wasnt pushing on it like i should.
Gui/OS has some nice changes, that makes things faster or easier to do.
Bixiy isnt useful at all. Maybe once its update it will work better. But on a sids note i havent Accidentally hit the button. So thats good.
The obly complain i would have a bout the phone that some apps dont fit full screen. You can force them but then the sides get cut off.
I know its an Aspect rataio that should be fix in updates of those apps.
And ill have to test but i think the speaker is lower volume then the s7e. But not sure yet.

buttsak said:
First impression...I no like it so much.
After playing with it all night tho, I like it. I got the 64gb s8+ and it's a lil tall but I think I'll grow into it. The fingerprint scanner that everyone is making such a huge deal about is in a great spot for me. When I go to pull it out of my pocket my finger falls right there and it's unlocked B4 I even look at the screen. The audio out of the akg headphones is great and it's even better in my car. Battery life, well, it's at 71% now and it's been on since about 7pm yesterday (10:49am now) and that's with heavy use. My only real gripe with it so far is I want to remap the bixby button to launch the camera. I think that would be perfect...Hope you guys are having fun with your new toys like I am
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I haven't updated it yet, so I was stil able to use the "All in one Gesture" app that was discussed on XDA before official release.

My second day impressions are pretty much spot on with @TheAnarchist1. This is hands-down the snappiest phone I have ever used. The screen is brilliant, and this version of Touchwiz is (finally) excellent. I've seen lot of features that the other launchers have had for years. I usually install Nova immediately, but this time I'm rolling with stock. I also was able to remap the Bixby button to Google Assistant with no problem.
My only issue (so far) is with the always-on screen. I've had two pocket dials and responded to a text with gibberish while the device was in my front pocket. Clearly, that's not going to work. I'll probably have to turn it off.

Just got mine going.
Design is pretty good, however, I think personally I would have preferred they stick with the sharper corners from the Note 7 and less rounded screen like the Note 7. Basically make the Note 7 but with smaller top and bottom bezels and this screen size. This is fine though, here's to hoping for the Note 8.
Obviously the fingerprint sensor on the back. Would have been exceptional for the fingerprint sensor to be built into the screen as rumored, but I don't particularly think this placement is much worse than any other fingerprint sensor that is on the back of the phone. I've mapped fingers from both hands, and when two handed, I find my left pointer rests on the sensor so it is kinda nice in some regard. I use smart location and bluetooth device unlocks a lot, so I avoid unlocking for the most part, at home, in vehicle, running with headphones, etc... Iris scanner is very useful, most of the time, but it can be awkward. Haven't tried facial recognition.
I see SIGNIFICANT improvement to Touchwiz and now they finally get at least some customization options. I'm trying to make it work, but a couple hours in, I'm already itching to switch back to Nova launcher. Small little peeves, but overall, it finally looks good, and has enough customization that I don't think the Samsung launcher is too bad. I really wish they would stop loading messengers for Verizon and Samsung, to which Samsung's is un-disable-able. Samsung makes special customization and actions for theirs, but I still don't want to use a manufactures messenger. Google brand for me.

1. So far, I'm amazed how well the iris scanner works and it is totally a fingerprint substitution. The battery life is simply amazing imo, I'm using it to the phone quite frequently in fact I have been browsing the web and using all sorts of social media the past hour. I should say I've only dropped about 8%, I'm genuinely pleased.
2. Performance is snappy, I haven't come across "real" lag (arbitrary statement). Coming from a note 4, TouchWiz has greatly been optimized and made much smoother.
3. 4gs of ram sounds like a little in 2017 but it's holding up like a champ!
4. So far I'm just in awe how great this phone is just to hold. I was scared the s8+ would be too big, but it fits perfect in the hand and is comfortable to use.

I can update this post as time goes by, but so far I only have a few gripes and some are not of the phone itself but the software:
1. I was upset when I was forced to go from the Note 7 back to the S7 edge due to the battery issues ( Twice! ) and was upset again when the s7 did not have the option of showing your calendar events listed on the Always On screen and instead just had the full month calendar. Eventually it was updated and gained that capability, but now, the S8 is the same way! I am an attorney and always have somewhere to be or someone coming by so it was nice just to look at my phone and know what was coming up without having to unlock it to check my calendar. Not a biggie, just annoying that a new phone is without that option.
2. The screen ration thing does look annoying sometimes. You can just tell that you have this big beautiful screen but almost everytime you turn it landscape there are black bars and your apps look the exact same as on the previous phone. Like I said, this is just the software thing and hopefully apps will catch up and start utilizing the larger screen more.
Otherwise, love the screen, love the speed. Wanted to stick with TouchWiz but I have a thing about the bottom of the screen not being available and the limitations of the 5x5 setup so I went back to Solo Launcher where I can hide the notification panel and dock at the bottom which makes this big screen look even bigger! More native customization of the home screen closer to home replacements such as that is what Touchwiz has been missing for a long time.

My initial impressions on my S8+:
1. It's incredibly fast. Snappier than any Samsung phone I've ever had or would ever expect them to produce. Loading time doesn't even exist for most apps, and the various animations seem much better than their older phones - the phone's performance reminds me more of the One plus 3T than an S7.
2. Battery life is really impressive. It looks like it might have the best battery life of any phone I've ever owned, which is particularly impressive considering it's a bigger screen and a smaller battery than the S7E.
3. The fingerprint scanner placement isn't quite as bad as people would lead you to believe. I haven't accidentally touched my camera lens once. However, it is a not too high up on the phone, which leads me to only touching it with half my finger, leading to it not unlocking. If they had located the entire set up a little lower on the device, it would've been fine.
4. The S8+ is a little too tall for my liking. It's practically impossible to reach the top opposite corner when using it with one hand. Obviously, activating one handed mode is one solution, but I really hope with flagships switching to 18:9 ratios, developers start moving any and all buttons to the lower half of their apps.

First impression, absolutely fabulous phone. Why ist the small cores maximum freq disabled?

Other than AT&T sent me the wrong color (You had one job...) I LOVE the phone. Coming from a Nexus 6P this thing is INSANE.

TheAnarchist1 said:
This can be alleviated by sitting the device on the cradle sideways...but who wants to do that? Lol!
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I got a chuckle from that because someone asked me in another thread if the charger would work with the phone in landscape position. BTW, nice review.

Just set it up. My only gripe is so far is I wish Samsung used Google version of restore data. I connected it to my Pixel and it copied everything but data. I guess the app wasn't able to do it. So having to manually download all my apps sucked.

just bought my oneplus 5

I'm not to sure if I like it.... I am alone thinking this?

denny1970 said:
I'm not to sure if I like it.... I am alone thinking this?
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Probably not, had the S8 too for a few days and for me it was a dissapointing experience. While on paper it should be a blazing fast device, in real life i xperienced stutters/lag/framedrops while gaming/opening apps and animations. The OP5 i have now in raw performance is much faster and smoother then the S8. The Samsung soft-
and bloatware still is too heavy on the cpu/gpu to have a smooth working device. Think the HTC U11/LG G6 are better devices then the S8(+) imo.

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Probably not, had the S8 too for a few days and for me it was a dissapointing experience. While on paper it should be a blazing fast device, in real life i xperienced stutters/lag/framedrops while gaming/opening apps and animations. The OP5 i have now in raw performance is much faster and smoother then the S8. The Samsung soft-
and bloatware still is too heavy on the cpu/gpu to have a smooth working device. Think the HTC U11/LG G6 are better devices then the S8(+) imo.
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He was talking about the OP5, not the S8?!

Batfink33 said:
He was talking about the OP5, not the S8?!
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Indeed. But as someone who has the S8 and misses the pure Android experience, gee2012's post actually resonated well with me.
For a couple of weeks now, I've been kicking around the idea of giving the S8 to my wife, to replace her busted up S6, and picking up a OnePlus 5. But I just can't seem to pull the trigger for some reason.

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Indeed. But as someone who has the S8 and misses the pure Android experience, gee2012's post actually resonated well with me.
For a couple of weeks now, I've been kicking around the idea of giving the S8 to my wife, to replace her busted up S6, and picking up a OnePlus 5. But I just can't seem to pull the trigger for some reason.
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I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.

Batfink33 said:
I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.
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Yeah, I must say that I absolutely love the screen on the S8. I wasn't previously one to use my phones to watch TV/movies. However, since getting the S8 I now love watching Netflix on this huge screen while doing cardio at the gym.
I installed BK Disabler the first day and set that up to keep all the bloatware disabled. The phone has continued to be blazing fast and I haven't experienced any noticeable hiccups or lagging in daily use.
The one issue I do have is with the fingerprint scanner. It's slow when compared to the Pixel and sometimes it will completely stop working until the phone is rebooted. However, the Iris scanner is extremely reliable and usually gets my phone unlocked before I can even get my finger to the fingerprint scanner. Granted, this is not a solution if you're wearing sun glasses.
I do miss the pure Android experience but don't bother rooting anymore since some of my daily apps, including my banking apps, don't work on rooted phones anymore. Maybe I'll hold off until I see what the Pixel 2 has to offer this fall.

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Yeah, I must say that I absolutely love the screen on the S8. I wasn't previously one to use my phones to watch TV/movies. However, since getting the S8 I now love watching Netflix on this huge screen while doing cardio at the gym.
I installed BK Disabler the first day and set that up to keep all the bloatware disabled. The phone has continued to be blazing fast and I haven't experienced any noticeable hiccups or lagging in daily use.
The one issue I do have is with the fingerprint scanner. It's slow when compared to the Pixel and sometimes it will completely stop working until the phone is rebooted. However, the Iris scanner is extremely reliable and usually gets my phone unlocked before I can even get my finger to the fingerprint scanner. Granted, this is not a solution if you're wearing sun glasses.
I do miss the pure Android experience but don't bother rooting anymore since some of my daily apps, including my banking apps, don't work on rooted phones anymore. Maybe I'll hold off until I see what the Pixel 2 has to offer this fall.
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There are some annoyances with the S8 like you said with the fingerprint reader and another thing that annoyes me is finding a good screen protector! All in all though again IMO it's streets ahead of the OP5 (I know a lot on here will disagree with me) from camera to display to general build quality. Stock I agree again performance it's quite stuttery but as I said rooted etc etc I've got it to be very, very smooth and fast. I'm also waiting on the Pixel 2 to see what that offers next but I've been quite let down by the OP5.

Batfink33 said:
I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.
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That's great and all but what about people in the US. I feel like this is something that every time someone brings up the comparison(OP5 to GS8) that gets overlooked. Even if you buy the GS8 Unlocked in the US there is no way to do anything that involves the Kernel, Rom, or any deep modification to the phone. As I understand the OP5 is more popular other countries, though it seems as that no one even brings this up.

Batfink33 said:
I have the S8+ and OP5 and IMHO the S8+ is a much better phone. Granted, I have mine rooted with a custom Rom and kernel and it's super fast. I guess everyone looks from their phone but for me there's no competition the S8+ wins every time.
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Had the s8+..4 different models with pink screens. I'm sure it's a great phone if you can get one that doesn't have a defective screen. I personally gave up on that goal. Love my OP5

zathus said:
Had the s8+..4 different models with pink screens. I'm sure it's a great phone if you can get one that doesn't have a defective screen. I personally gave up on that goal. Love my OP5
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Yeah, it happens with AMOLED panels. Took me 3 6Ps to get one with a uniform colour screen. Luckily with the S8 my first one was uniform.

How's yours OP5 screen uniformity ? Mine seems ok.
What's the best way to test it?
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Mine seems ok! Tested at diferent screen intensity with this page: http://www.nullabletype.co.uk/static/styles/blah2.html (scroll down)

I came to 1+5 from LG G2, and I should say that it seems like if I came from stone age
It is really fast.. still I am facing two issues:
1- fingerprint scanner sometimes not responding at all after ideal time.
2- Sometimes it dose not connect to data network at all(which is 3G), I need to switch it manually to 2G and then to automatic mode by hand , then it can see the 3G network, strange.
Everything else in my opinion is superb.

TMSxXDA said:
I came to 1+5 from LG G2, and I should say that it seems like if I came from stone age
It is really fast.. still I am facing two issues:
1- fingerprint scanner sometimes not responding at all after ideal time.
2- Sometimes it dose not connect to data network at all(which is 3G), I need to switch it manually to 2G and then to automatic mode by hand , then it can see the 3G network, strange.
Everything else in my opinion is superb.
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1. What do you mean about "ideal time" ?
2. Probably carrier related, have you checked your apn ( not sure if it's called the same in english )?

nosphor said:
1. What do you mean about "ideal time" ?
2. Probably carrier related, have you checked your apn ( not sure if it's called the same in english )?
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1- sorry for mistype, idle time
2- yeah, it actually working fine, but if I have been on WiFi for a while, then switch to 3G, sometimes it dose not work, this happens randomly.

TMSxXDA said:
1- sorry for mistype, idle time
2- yeah, it actually working fine, but if I have been on WiFi for a while, then switch to 3G, sometimes it dose not work, this happens randomly.
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I remember having this kind of problem with my previous phone (Oneplus One). Don't remember how i fixed it because it suddently disappeared. I change my phone operator during that period so i think it's somehow related. But yeah i agree it's kinda annoying ^^.

Still no Always on Display?

The title says it all, am I right in thinking that OnePlus have still not added an Always on Display with the OnePlus 8/8pro.
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I think you are right.
No review or on the launch event mentioned that it has.
Hopefully the will add the feature later in an update.

It’s a disappointment for sure, they have been ‘working on it’ forever.
Of course they haven’t really been working on it just saying they have.
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Aod have been approved after first round of IDEAS. So now it is on OxygenOS team's roadmap. Just wait, i guess it will be here soon. At least for OP7 series.

They already said that this will happen.
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They have said this before though, more than once.

No I don't their stance has been that. They have consistently said that they didn't want to do this because of the battery hit.
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The most recent comment from them has been 'It's on our roadmap'
Not a confirmation that it is coming, roadmaps change all the time. Let's not forget there was an always on display briefly on the OnePlus 6 before they took it away citing battery concerns, the few people who got to use it said that the battery hit was not obscene at all. I suspect there is another motivation for removing it and never adding it again, maybe something hardware related around the screen?

Another overlooked benefit of the AOD is it also allows you to see and use the finger print sensor without waking the device, currently on a One Plus you have to wake the phone and then unlock whereas on say a S10 or S20 you can just unlock right from the AOD.

Unlocking the screen without turning it on has nothing to do with Samsungs AOD though. Samsung uses an ultrasonic fingerprint sensor while the one of oneplus is optical. While the OP needs light work indeed, Samsung doesn't.

mkbhd review has shown aod on oneplus 8 pro.

What do you think about "Oxygen AOD Mod", or "Always on Amoled"? These apps are available in the Google play store. They seem to work well.

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Touch screen misses quick swipes

Once starting to use the phone normally, I've noticed that it seems to miss quick swipes on occasion. It either ignores it all together when it happens, or it interprets them as a tap, landing either where the swipe starts or where it ends. It's only noticeable when doing very short, quick swipes. Some people may not even do them this short but I'm sure many power users are doing it. See the video clips below for an example and a comparison with a p30 pro which doesn't miss once while the note 20 ultra misses swipe after swipe after swipe.
I literally have to slow down my pace to not have a swipe missed here and there. It quickly turns into an annoyance and the price tag adds to that anger. This SHOULD NOT be an issue at a phone with this kind of performance and quality. I've tested this on two note 2 ultras, both are similar. Both exynos, if that matters. S-pen works great, can do the smallest of curves, but a quick swipe is apparently too much to bare.
Anyone else noticing this? I haven't removed the pre installed screen guard, nor do I want to.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Qn745vGg5ArGv6SBA

I uploaded a detailed video showcasing the issue and explaining how to test it yourself. I'm surprised nobody seems to have taken note of this yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqZQY37SI9o&feature=youtu.be

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I uploaded a detailed video showcasing the issue and explaining how to test it yourself. I'm surprised nobody seems to have taken note of this yet.
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I don't have any issues myself nor do I use any third party launchers. But maybe its something to do with adaptive refresh rate. Try turning on 60 htz and see if it still happens

Do you have the original screen protector on, I had a similar issue with the S10 or S9 where by the screen protector created this drag. After removing it then it was fluid.

Yeah mine too. CAnt figure it out.

alfamega190 said:
I don't have any issues myself nor do I use any third party launchers. But maybe its something to do with adaptive refresh rate. Try turning on 60 htz and see if it still happens
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I tried 60hz as well as increased sensitivity, even higher resolution. Nothing makes a difference. 3rd party launchers seem to make a bit of difference but using oneui launcher isn't taking the problem away completely. I think it works better in oneui simply because Samsung allowed smaller swipes to trigger the action in their own launcher which in a way worries me as it may mean that they are aware of the issue and did what they could to hide it from the user.
themarques said:
Do you have the original screen protector on, I had a similar issue with the S10 or S9 where by the screen protector created this drag. After removing it then it was fluid.
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I tried in a store where there were no screen guards left on the phone. It may have helped a bit but did not take the problem away.
dottat said:
Yeah mine too. CAnt figure it out.
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Yeah gee, let me think...

Tried to replicate this. Its not that it misses quick swipes, there is just a threshold for a swipe to register, really short swipes don't register as swipes. I don't think this is a bug.

qzan7 said:
Tried to replicate this. Its not that it misses quick swipes, there is just a threshold for a swipe to register, really short swipes don't register as swipes. I don't think this is a bug.
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Did you check out the video with the comparison to the P30 Pro?
You may very well be right that it is a set threshold that Samsung just considered being the right setting. However, the S20 Ultra does not exhibit this behavior, nor does any other Samsung phone as far as the ones that I've tested and owned previously. Not even the other notes. Something is different with this phone, whether it being a hardware issue, software issue or just a setting (that the custom cannot set).
I'm not so certain it's just a setting however. If you turn on the debugging feature used in the video, you will see that the interpretation of the short swipe is a lot shorter on the Note 20 ultra than it is on the P30 Pro. I'm afraid THIS is the culprit. If the screen reports a much shorter swipe on short swipes, then of course the software can do little to improve upon this with thresholds etc.
One could argue too that this is nitpicking, but in actual usage for me, I keep hitting this problem again and again and it does virtually never happen on any other phone. That turns it into a problem for me and I'm sure there are more people out their swiping in a similar way

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Did you check out the video with the comparison to the P30 Pro?
You may very well be right that it is a set threshold that Samsung just considered being the right setting. However, the S20 Ultra does not exhibit this behavior, nor does any other Samsung phone as far as the ones that I've tested and owned previously. Not even the other notes. Something is different with this phone, whether it being a hardware issue, software issue or just a setting (that the custom cannot set).
I'm not so certain it's just a setting however. If you turn on the debugging feature used in the video, you will see that the interpretation of the short swipe is a lot shorter on the Note 20 ultra than it is on the P30 Pro. I'm afraid THIS is the culprit. If the screen reports a much shorter swipe on short swipes, then of course the software can do little to improve upon this with thresholds etc.
One could argue too that this is nitpicking, but in actual usage for me, I keep hitting this problem again and again and it does virtually never happen on any other phone. That turns it into a problem for me and I'm sure there are more people out their swiping in a similar way
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I doubt many people can even replicate this to really find it an issue. I will consciously trying and could barely get it to miss and I have a screen protector on.
And bare in mind that this is a new phone with different hardware than previous phones, even other Samsung. It won't necessarily behave the same.

qzan7 said:
I doubt many people can even replicate this to really find it an issue. I will consciously trying and could barely get it to miss and I have a screen protector on.
And bare in mind that this is a new phone with different hardware than previous phones, even other Samsung. It won't necessarily behave the same.
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How long are you lines getting when you're "really trying to make it fail" so to speak? Are they similarly short to what I'm getting? It's so hard to qualify this too as it relies on human muscle moment and habits. It may seem like nitpicking to some but my phone really misses swipes here and there at an annoying rate. This could be me doing things oddly but it could also mean differences in screens. It's hard to tell really.

I think the phone is registering super short swipes as a fat finger tap instead of swipes.

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I think the phone is registering super short swipes as a fat finger tap instead of swipes.
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That may be correct. It may very well be a preventative for unintended swipes [emoji23] but it screw things up in another direction.
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TigerSoul925 said:
That may be correct. It may very well be a preventative for unintended swipes [emoji23] but it screw things up in another direction.
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My old Note 10+ does the same. So it's not just a Note 20 Ultra issue. Its definitely software.

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My old Note 10+ does the same. So it's not just a Note 20 Ultra issue. Its definitely software.
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Oh! I tried an older note in the store, can't remember the model, but it did not seem to do this. But maybe it is a widespread Samsung thing then? I also tried an s20 ultra and it didn't seem to do this either. But I could be wrong as I couldn't enable developer tools on the in store phones to truly compare the lines.
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TigerSoul925 said:
Oh! I tried an older note in the store, can't remember the model, but it did not seem to do this. But maybe it is a widespread Samsung thing then? I also tried an s20 ultra and it didn't seem to do this either. But I could be wrong as I couldn't enable developer tools on the in store phones to truly compare the lines.
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It was a freshly factory reset note 10+ cause I reset it after moving everything to the note 20 ultra. Latest firmware and everything. I use the pattern unlock and the pattern line was visible for unlocking. It dropped the first short swipe for pattern unlock.

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It was a freshly factory reset note 10+ cause I reset it after moving everything to the note 20 ultra. Latest firmware and everything. I use the pattern unlock and the pattern line was visible for unlocking. It dropped the first short swipe for pattern unlock.
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Sure is interesting. Maybe this is just how Samsung has things set up on all phones and I just couldn't verify from not having developer tools access. Who knows.
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