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hi chaps,
i recently got myself an evo 4g and was contemplating a screen protector. then i came across some videos on YouTube proclaiming just how tough the gorilla glass (?) on the evo is and withstood all kinds of torture.
anyway, in the spirit of finding out for myself, i tried the same thing to my phone and i definitely suggest not trying it yourself. The screen most definitely does scratch. Now we now.
Link below to see the video and pics.
http://asmd.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/a-blade-to-the-belly-of-the-beast/
regards,
asmd.

asmd6230 said:
hi chaps,
i recently got myself an evo 4g and was contemplating a screen protector. then i came across some videos on YouTube proclaiming just how tough the gorilla glass (?) on the evo is and withstood all kinds of torture.
anyway, in the spirit of finding out for myself, i tried the same thing to my phone and i definitely suggest not trying it yourself. The screen most definitely does scratch. Now we now.
Link below to see the video and pics.
http://asmd.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/a-blade-to-the-belly-of-the-beast/
regards,
asmd.
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i already knew it scratched hell iv even broke the screen on my first evo so yea my keys have scratched my screen however you can see it. it doesnt make it look bad or aweful in anyway just notice it under certain angles so kind of dumb to ruin yours to do this test could have just asked if anyone had scratchs on their screen and to take pictures

Ok, so, you went from "I should get a screen protector!" to "I'm gonna take a razor blade to this *****!" in the span of a youtube video?!
Jesus man, I hope to god you don't find out about failblog or else your hospital bills are going to be ridiculous.

ha ha!!
nah man... i was considering a screen protector. Always had one on my HD2 and Touch Diamond. But then i got to reading about how tough the glass was.. and then the YouTube videos. I though to myself, this is brilliant., no screen protector needed.
I initially tried with just the corners and there were no scratches, after which i figured let me catch the main test on video just for sake of it.
now, with what i did to my Evo, the outcome should have be the same as those other chaps who posted on Youtube, but i got a couple of scratches which i took pictures of.... what i proved was that its highly unlikely those Evos came away undamaged or theres something fishy going on.
Btw, im probably not going to use a screen protector. If anything, maybe a slip case. I mean, after all that coin scratching, scicssors scoring and blade cutting, it only came away with two scratches. The second was small enough that i found it hard to take a picture of. The one i could take a picture of is noticeable if viewed from a particular angle. Looking at it head on in normal use is not noticeable.
Plus if it does get that bad, the screens go for $20 bucks on ebay...
but then again, there is the question of resale though.... hhhmmm.
Anyway, i looked on the net and all i got was confused answers, take it from me chaps this is definitive. And ive got the scratch to prove it.
regards,
asmd.

Haha. You said chaps....... I remember the glass on my *gasp* blackberry storm being tough. I scratched it with everything and never once noticed anything. Never tried with my evo. Just too sexy of a phone
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where are you from out of curiosity?
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Some times the cheap ones work the best screen protector wise check out extreme guard or few others eBay there cheap and work well. I'm using a Kraken case to keep my new phone mint.

I have a watch that has a saphire crystal that is supposed to be unscratchble. I used to demo it when drunk rubbing the face on concrete. Well one night it actually did scratch, and it was a biggin. Luckily Rado replaced it for me free of charge. Lesson learned.
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btw, which screen protector has the most glass like feel to it in use?
ive consistently come across posts complaining about zaggs tacky feel and yellowing... so, which reigns as king of the hill of screen protectors?
i wish i could remember what mine was on the hd2. feels pretty nice and no discoloration.

Hmmm failblog sounds interesting......

I.... wouldn't have tried this. XD

halorin said:
I.... wouldn't have tried this. XD
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now that i have, you will never have to.
its just something i was really curious about. the youtube videos seemed so unlikely but technology does advance and i wanted to personally put it to the test.
no regrets.
its just a phone. nothing last forever.
and as a mate put it, i go through mobile devices faster than he updates his facebook status.

asmd6230 said:
btw, which screen protector has the most glass like feel to it in use?
ive consistently come across posts complaining about zaggs tacky feel and yellowing... so, which reigns as king of the hill of screen protectors?
i wish i could remember what mine was on the hd2. feels pretty nice and no discoloration.
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I like the boxwave clear touch protector, lasts a long time a.d feels pretty close to the glass
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I thought the gorrila glass was pretty tough until i bought some earrings and i had scratches all over my phone

I use my phone naked since there's no way I'm putting a case on such a huge phone.
It's stood up really well, actually. I've dropped it on concrete a few times and the only noticeable signs are some indents on the plastic around the outer rim.
Though if you look closely, there's little chips missing from my screen. You could definitely scratch it pretty badly without too much effort in my opinion.

My phone has a zagg screen protector on it and I don't have any yellowing issues... however if your fingers are oily or wet (duh most peoples are ) then yeah it can have a tacky sort of feel. I usually just do a quick wipe of my index finger on my jeans before I touch my screen.

Hazelfoot said:
I use my phone naked since there's no way I'm putting a case on such a huge phone.
It's stood up really well, actually. I've dropped it on concrete a few times and the only noticeable signs are some indents on the plastic around the outer rim.
Though if you look closely, there's little chips missing from my screen. You could definitely scratch it pretty badly without too much effort in my opinion.
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i get the case thing. i had an otterbox defender series on my phone with out much trouble til it became to stretched to hit the buttons correctly kinda disappointing i guess im glad i used a gift card to try it out. The screen protectors that came with are not bad but my phone is back to being completely naked ( oh noeesss!! ) but it seems to be fine.
glass wise no i wouldn't of tried this carrying this no shalantly in my pocket has shown its wear on the screen from random things in my pocket even though i "try" to keep it in its own pocket

Thank you OP for test and results, this answers some questions

wynnemelvin said:
I thought the gorrila glass was pretty tough until i bought some earrings and i had scratches all over my phone
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stones in earring i would expect are much harder than the glass of the screen and would undoubtedly scratch.

NewZJ said:
Thank you OP for test and results, this answers some questions
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your welcome.
a thank you is always appreciated.
i knew those boob tube videos were too good to be true.
im still going to keep it nude, after all thats scratching a couple of scratches.. i'll take my chances. plus i'll just have to remember to keep blades and scissors out of my pocket.
regards,
asmd.

Nexus 4: How's that glass back holding up?

For people who have the Nexus 4, I'm wondering how that glass back is holding up?
The review unit at The Verge already has a small crack, from when it was accidentally knocked off of a table. And Android Central, in their review, said they were already seeing hairlines scratches on the back. I was also in a T-Mobile store today looking at their demo unit, which had a few hairline scratches on the back (even though they just got the phone today).
The glass back is one part of the build of the phone that I a bit worried about in the long run (after all, it didn't work out so well on the iPhone 4).
Thanks for any comments.

This should be in Q&A thread.

Apparently one of the people on this forum that got the device early, dropped it and the back broke

omigosh, maybe I'll just wait for the next Nexus.

Ouch.... I ordered screen protector for front and back, and a soft case but they won't come until later this month.
I guess I will have to stick with my old g2 for a while?

Why is everyone so worried about the BACK glass breaking? If I dropped the phone I'd be a whole lot more concerned over the front SCREEN breaking. The glass on the back cracking would be annoying, but it won't hurt the function of the phone. The front breaking obviously would, and every single smartphone has a glass screen.

dyslexicpenguin said:
Why is everyone so worried about the BACK glass breaking? If I dropped the phone I'd be a whole lot more concerned over the front SCREEN breaking. The glass on the back cracking would be annoying, but it won't hurt the function of the phone. The front breaking obviously would, and every single smartphone has a glass screen.
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Shattered glass in your hands is bad either way

jacklebott said:
Shattered glass in your hands is bad either way
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if it breaks just get a case or skin for it lol

I'm curious how well it'd hold up with a Zagg Invisi-Shield on it...if it would still crack simply from shock or not. Either way, i'll still get a bumper case for the phone simply out of paranoia, lol. I drop my phones like crazy. It's amazing how crazy I am over gadgets and protecting them, yet they still seem to slip from my desk/car/hand
I think i'm going to give this phone 2 months before I invest any money into it. I'd rather play it smart and wait than to be "cool" because I was the first to get one (which honestly, nobody really gives a **** about, lol). I had friends who were all "hey, hey look. I got the new 'insertnewphonehere'. I'm one of the first people to get one" and everyone else was like "......um, ok. You want a prize or something?" lol

dyslexicpenguin said:
Why is everyone so worried about the BACK glass breaking? If I dropped the phone I'd be a whole lot more concerned over the front SCREEN breaking. The glass on the back cracking would be annoying, but it won't hurt the function of the phone. The front breaking obviously would, and every single smartphone has a glass screen.
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Yes, every single smartphone does have a glass screen, which is why there would be no point asking this question about any particular phone. It's a necessity and it's not a reason one is going to choose one phone over another.
But there's no reason the back of the Nexus 4 has to be glass, so it is relevant to consider how durable it's going to be when comparing it to other phones. Why effectively double a risk (of a glass part breaking), if it's not necessary?
It's also possible that the back of the Nexus 4 is not as durable as the typical screen. It is interesting that all of the stories of breaking and scratches, so far, are on the back phone.

thing is ..its simple... google heard all of last year how samsung screwed up the build quality of nexus with plastic..so they thought what material while cheap can provide a lil if not lot more premium feel...(the 4s pops into their head)..lg presents a similar phone..and voila nexus 4 is made.. im not saying its bad quality..to be honest its the best quality phone im gonna buy...

dyslexicpenguin said:
Why is everyone so worried about the BACK glass breaking? If I dropped the phone I'd be a whole lot more concerned over the front SCREEN breaking. The glass on the back cracking would be annoying, but it won't hurt the function of the phone. The front breaking obviously would, and every single smartphone has a glass screen.
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Holy, Deja Vu. I swear I saw this post somewhere before. Maybe I was dreaming of you...
Anyways. Screen protectors won't hold the phone together from a drop. A case will. I'm getting a bumper.

Personally I love the glass back. I will not drop this phone and I will be using a case like I do with any expensive smart phone..
Sure, drop it onto a stone, cement or tile floor chances are it will crack. Many phones would.
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Fuq plastic
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I'm gonna leave the orgional plastic on it until the BSE total body protector and my case from china comes in.

Bumper on it. Sides protected, weak points of the glass that is. Done

Why care about the glass breaking at all? There will surely be OEM back plates available for sale on eBay (just as there are for the iPhones) and seeing how easy the Nexus 4 is to take apart, you could just replace it yourself for $20-$30!
Although the Nexus 4 back plate may be a little more expensive as it actually has components on it...

cb474 said:
Yes, every single smartphone does have a glass screen, which is why there would be no point asking this question about any particular phone. It's a necessity and it's not a reason one is going to choose one phone over another.
But there's no reason the back of the Nexus 4 has to be glass, so it is relevant to consider how durable it's going to be when comparing it to other phones. Why effectively double a risk (of a glass part breaking), if it's not necessary?
It's also possible that the back of the Nexus 4 is not as durable as the typical screen. It is interesting that all of the stories of breaking and scratches, so far, are on the back phone.
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The back and front are both Gorilla Glass 2. if you are THAT worried about it, get ghost armor or something or a otterbox case.

jacklebott said:
Shattered glass in your hands is bad either way
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I have not heard of anyone that had a shattered glass back on a Nexus 4. Cracked and scratched is a far cry from shattered.

ferozfero said:
thing is ..its simple... google heard all of last year how samsung screwed up the build quality of nexus with plastic..so they thought what material while cheap can provide a lil if not lot more premium feel...(the 4s pops into their head)..lg presents a similar phone..and voila nexus 4 is made.. im not saying its bad quality..to be honest its the best quality phone im gonna buy...
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Yeah, I imagine something like this was the logic. And it is a nice phone. Defintely a step up in at least perceived build quality. But there are certainly a lot of other ways to get there. The rubbery matte material on the side of the phone has a nice feel to it. If the back had been made from that material, I think it would have had an equally premium feel and seemed a lot more durable. It's also a little sad to think that the best idea Google had was to copy the iPhone.
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Richieboy67 said:
Personally I love the glass back. I will not drop this phone...
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Good luck with that.
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donec said:
I have not heard of anyone that had a shattered glass back on a Nexus 4. Cracked and scratched is a far cry from shattered.
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Cracked and scratched on day 1 (even with review units) is not a good beginning. I suspect it's only a matter of time until we start seeing the image of shattered backs posted online. I hope I turn out to be wrong.
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stratax said:
The back and front are both Gorilla Glass 2. if you are THAT worried about it, get ghost armor or something or a otterbox case.
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The back of the iPhone 4 is Gorilla Glass too. It didn't stop backs from shattering. Anyway, the point is that there is no reason to take the extra risk of having not just the screen as a fragile component, but also the back. It just doubles the odds of shattering something for no good reason. Sooner or later most people drop their phones. The job of a good designer is to mitigate (not enhance) the possible downsides of this.
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By the way, I like this phone. I may still get one. I'm just not excited about having to treat something I carry with me everywhere, like a delicate piece of equipment. I'm not clumsy. I've only dropped my Nexus One a couple times in two years. But things like that happen when you're least expecting it and coming up with a shattered back, rather than a nick or dent is going to be really annoying. (And I hate cases and all that crap. I carry my phone in my pocket. I don't need to make a device designed to be as thin and pocketable as possible, thicker and more cumbersome.)

[Q] Cracked Camera Glass

Bah!
Just noticed the camera glass on the back on the phone has a nice crack through it... not sure how it happened as the phone has barely been used and never dropped!
Luckily it doesn't seem to be effecting the photos - but it is a bit of a worry and I don't want it getting worse and damaging the actual camera lens
Does anyone know of anywhere in the UK that I might be able to source a replacement part this early in the phones life cycle?
I don't really want to get Samsung or Vodafone to fix it as I had my S3 sent back due to a manufacturing issue and didn't see the phone for another 5 weeks!!
From what I can see in the tear down videos, the camera is quite easy to get to and the glass is quite easy to remove, so I might give it a go at home...
As for the warranty - I assume this voids it, but I can't see any security seals that would let them know this had been done, am I missing something?
Thanks for your help!

Are you sure it's a crack in the glass and not just a scratch in the protective seal? I've had some bubbles under what I assumed was the glass but it turned out I just didn't remove the plastic seal that was on the real glass.
Can't help you with replacement if it's really cracked, good luck though!

bioweb said:
Are you sure it's a crack in the glass and not just a scratch in the protective seal? I've had some bubbles under what I assumed was the glass but it turned out I just didn't remove the plastic seal that was on the real glass.
Can't help you with replacement if it's really cracked, good luck though!
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Nope, Unfortunately it's a pretty genuine crack, you can feel the two pieces shifting slightly when you gently tap the area - very frustrating

LoveJimbo said:
Nope, Unfortunately it's a pretty genuine crack, you can feel the two pieces shifting slightly when you gently tap the area - very frustrating
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On the S3 you could remove the glass cover the lens is actually further back in the housing, try this video see if it works the same on the S4.
Cant help with a replacement part but at least you can remove it and order one espares once they become available.

Ah that's a good idea!
Before I start hacking away at it to check, does anyone have an S3 and S4 and could compare the camera housing by eye - just to see if they do look like they are built in a similar way?
Thanks for your help!
Jim

LoveJimbo said:
Ah that's a good idea!
Before I start hacking away at it to check, does anyone have an S3 and S4 and could compare the camera housing by eye - just to see if they do look like they are built in a similar way?
Thanks for your help!
Jim
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I've just looked at my S3 and it is different appears the S4 is more intergrated theirs no natural place you could get a pin to lift it away.

Camera lens scratched???

So I took a look at my lens today and almost fell off my chair, I was like is that what I think it is, sure enough I grabbed a magnifying loop and holly crap it was scratched like crazy. I've had a case on since day one from Version. Just wondering if this is a factory defect or cheap glass on our lens.
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Not sure about the material. What you seen as the lens is not really the lens, its a protective cover. This camera has a faily wide angle lens and the minimum focus distance is waaaay looonger than the distance between the cover and the sensor. A scartch on the lens cover will have ZERO impact on your images. Dont buy into apples sapphire glass lens hype. I have old lenses with demolished front element that produce perfect images

But u had to get a magnifying glass?????

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So I took a look at my lens today and almost fell off my chair, I was like is that what I think it is, sure enough I grabbed a magnifying loop and holly crap it was scratched like crazy. I've had a case on since day one from Version. Just wondering if this is a factory defect or cheap glass on our lens.
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They aren't scratches, get the light to shine off the surface of the glass, it will be clean, they are cracks inside the glass, about to return my third one because of this. I use a jewelers loupe to look at them, this is bad and your going to hear a lot about this issue soon. All the same problem, the crack lines run from top of phone to bottom of the phone on the lens.

Ready2Mosh said:
They aren't scratches, get the light to shine off the surface of the glass, it will be clean, they are cracks inside the glass, about to return my third one because of this. I use a jewelers loupe to look at them, this is bad and your going to hear a lot about this issue soon. All the same problem, the crack lines run from top of phone to bottom of the phone on the lens.
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mine has cracks too. can i just take it back to verizon? ive only had it 5 days. or do i need to call and get one sent?

afmracer6 said:
mine has cracks too. can i just take it back to verizon? ive only had it 5 days. or do i need to call and get one sent?
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First off "F'N SLAYER!!!"
I'm not with Verizon, I'm with T-Mobile and have a business account. Do they look like these? the top picture?

I'm going to try and get a pic on my 230x usb microscope and post it here stay tuned!

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First off "F'N SLAYER!!!"
I'm not with Verizon, I'm with T-Mobile and have a business account. Do they look like these? the top picture?[/QUOTE
YES. looks like imperfections in a diamond. cant get a good pic of them. small but visible with the naked eye.
ill try to get a macro pic with my g/s 's note 2 tonight.
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Seems to me that unbreakable sapphire isn't really a benefit if it comes with imperfections...

Ready2Mosh said:
They aren't scratches, get the light to shine off the surface of the glass, it will be clean, they are cracks inside the glass, about to return my third one because of this. I use a jewelers loupe to look at them, this is bad and your going to hear a lot about this issue soon. All the same problem, the crack lines run from top of phone to bottom of the phone on the lens.
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How does this happen? How do you cause cracks inside the glass?

Hopefully, it's just the slightly lower Q.C. from the first batch of G2's before LG ramps up production. Almost all newly-released phones have this issue. The Note 3 is having this wiggly home button issue. Either way, it's inexcusable for LG and it's good that you guys are letting us know about this. I plan to get a G2 soon and i'll be taking a very close look at those lens before i move out of the shop.

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How does this happen? How do you cause cracks inside the glass?
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Same way it happens in gemstones, stress. I think I have figured out what is happening, if you put your phone in a place where it can flex ever so slightly, the lens glass touches the outside casing, causing stress and thats when the cracks appear. So if you put your phone in your back pocket and sit down, that would cause the phone to have flex, thus causing the glass to stress and cracking.
I think I found something that actually tells how this is happening. Read here
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Hopefully, it's just the slightly lower Q.C. from the first batch of G2's before LG ramps up production. Almost all newly-released phones have this issue. The Note 3 is having this wiggly home button issue. Either way, it's inexcusable for LG and it's good that you guys are letting us know about this. I plan to get a G2 soon and i'll be taking a very close look at those lens before i move out of the shop.
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It happens after you've had it and used it, it will look clean when your in the store.

Ready2Mosh said:
Same way it happens in gemstones, stress. I think I have figured out what is happening, if you put your phone in a place where it can flex ever so slightly, the lens glass touches the outside casing, causing stress and thats when the cracks appear. So if you put your phone in your back pocket and sit down, that would cause the phone to have flex, thus causing the glass to stress and cracking.
I think I found something that actually tells how this is happening. Read here
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I see. Yeah I never put my smartphones in my back pocket like I see girls do. I always put my phone on my side pocket. I am definitely going to be putting on a case for this little guy just for added protection when I get the phone.

thewihlygeek said:
Seems to me that unbreakable sapphire isn't really a benefit if it comes with imperfections...
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Not unbreakable, otherwise we wouldn't be able to cut it, same as diamond. Sapphire is 9 on the Mohs' scale of hardness, diamond is obviously 10, the hardest substance, but even it can break and scratch. The thing is the difference in hardness between 9 and 10, it's like 140 times harder, wow!
Your exactly right about the imperfections, if the edges are damaged, they are already doomed to crack, and you can't see it because it's smaller than the eye can see and it's in a frame. But if you look closely you can see the edge looks rough, unfinished, theres the problem.
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ericdabbs said:
I see. Yeah I never put my smartphones in my back pocket like I see girls do. I always put my phone on my side pocket. I am definitely going to be putting on a case for this little guy just for added protection when I get the phone.
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Get one that doesn't flex!

Goodbye all, moved onto the note 3 as I know it will continue to happen. Good Luck all, hope you don't have the experience I did.

Just got my LG2 today, Is there any plastic film covering the camera lens? Seems to me there is but I cant take it out :laugh:

daraj said:
Just got my LG2 today, Is there any plastic film covering the camera lens? Seems to me there is but I cant take it out :laugh:
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Lol so crazy you said that! I kept picking at it (not too hard) because it looks like there is plastic there. Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that
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Ready2Mosh said:
Goodbye all, moved onto the note 3 as I know it will continue to happen. Good Luck all, hope you don't have the experience I did.
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Bye. Good luck with that lag fest and crappy pentile screen. And good luck with the loose home buttons and crappy reception that people are already reporting. All in a $750 device lol.
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i think you've been putting pressure on the lens when you mistakenly push it while touching the buttons at the back.

canecbr600 said:
But u had to get a magnifying glass?????
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My initial thought as well! lol
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But u had to get a magnifying glass?????
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daraj said:
Just got my LG2 today, Is there any plastic film covering the camera lens? Seems to me there is but I cant take it out :laugh:
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I tired too (briefly) but theres only film on the surrounding bezel of the lens, not on the lens itself. Surprisingly enough, i thought at the bezel of the lens was blue..for 5 days!

Material covering flash plastic?

Hi y'all.. Bought the lg g6 recently. So far loving it. I like how the phone is entirely scratch resistant however I just noticed that the material covering the flash is plastic. I saw a deep scratch and had no idea how it got there given that I've had the phone in a mil grade case ever since opening he package. I put my finger on the flash and the scratches got even worse. I'm considering returning the phone because of this, has anyone run into this??

Watch the video in youtube from jerryrigeverything to see from wich material is the flash supposed to be.

iori_cl said:
Watch the video in youtube from jerryrigeverything to see from wich material is the flash supposed to be.
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I watched both of his G6 videos - unfortunately he never did a scratch test of the material covering the flash

Really??
Snowleopard86 said:
... I'm considering returning the phone because of this, has anyone run into this??
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Really?? You're going to return a phone because of the material that was used to cover the LED camera flash?? What impact is a scratch on the plastic of your LED flash going to have on your photos?

I'm pretty sure the majority of phones out now use plastic for the flash. If you're considering returning it because of that then you should just get an iPhone. The plastic will refract the light regardless of whether there's scratches or not.

Saythis said:
I'm pretty sure the majority of phones out now use plastic for the flash. If you're considering returning it because of that then you should just get an iPhone. The plastic will refract the light regardless of whether there's scratches or not.
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I have a Nexus 5X which is manufactured by LG - it seems to use a harder plastic because I don't see any scratches on the material covering the flash. I noticed the iPhone uses glass? for the flash? I might look into this

Confirmed. All phones use plastic on flash except for one, S8

iori_cl said:
Confirmed. All phones use plastic on flash except for one, S8
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where did you get this data?

Google mainly and the channel i told you, in the test video for the s8 he says: " first time i ever see a glass on a flashlight", so i went straight to google and in fact its true.

iori_cl said:
Google mainly and the channel i told you, in the test video for the s8 he says: " first time i ever see a glass on a flashlight", so i went straight to google and in fact its true.
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ok this might be a game changer for me then lol - I chose LG G6 over the S8 because the G6 has a flat screen (I hate the curved screens because of the lack of screen protectors) - however I can't stand that a premium phone like the G6 opted for plastic to cover the flash, unacceptable.

Is not only LG, every other brand is exactly the same. Mi wife has a HTC 10, and that part is indeed plastic.
If a I were you, I wouldn't worry and enjoy the phone, its amazing

iori_cl said:
Is not only LG, every other brand is exactly the same. Mi wife has a HTC 10, and that part is indeed plastic.
If a I were you, I wouldn't worry and enjoy the phone, its amazing
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I already returned my G6 because of the plastic flash issue - I think it's a really cheap plastic because everytime I lightly brushed the flash with my finger there was a new scratch... pretty crazy

Snowleopard86 said:
I already returned my G6 because of the plastic flash issue - I think it's a really cheap plastic because everytime I lightly brushed the flash with my finger there was a new scratch... pretty crazy
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Did you check your new phone to make sure the mic and earpiece holes aren't gonna collect any dust? That right there is gonna KILL your smartphone experience. Also, don't forget to check the pressure sensitivity of the volume buttons.... can't have those taking too much or too little pressure to activate, right? And you're not thinking about getting the S8, are you?? My God, man, you DO know the volume control is just a single bar instead of two distinct buttons, right?? WHAT IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY PRESS UP WHEN YOU MEAN TO PRESS DOWN?!? THE HORROR!!!

Hahahaha funny!

a Mr. Smith said:
Did you check your new phone to make sure the mic and earpiece holes aren't gonna collect any dust? That right there is gonna KILL your smartphone experience. Also, don't forget to check the pressure sensitivity of the volume buttons.... can't have those taking too much or too little pressure to activate, right? And you're not thinking about getting the S8, are you?? My God, man, you DO know the volume control is just a single bar instead of two distinct buttons, right?? WHAT IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY PRESS UP WHEN YOU MEAN TO PRESS DOWN?!? THE HORROR!!!
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on a more serious note - A cnet review noted that the G6 got a "hairline fracture" on the front despite normal use... not sure why there are physical defects like this

Fair enough
Snowleopard86 said:
on a more serious note - A cnet review noted that the G6 got a "hairline fracture" on the front despite normal use... not sure why there are physical defects like this
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I will grant you that the phone probably picks up scratches easier than it should. I imagine LG was trying to save money by not going with Gorilla Glass 5 all the way around and sapphire crystal for the camera cover. But all these hardness ratings and scratch tests exist because ALL phones scratch and chip... some more than others. You're gonna have to pay however many thousands of dollars Apple was going to charge people for a sapphire crystal-encased phone before they scrapped that idea to get something that will really stand up to scratches and "hairline fractures."

a Mr. Smith said:
I will grant you that the phone probably picks up scratches easier than it should. I imagine LG was trying to save money by not going with Gorilla Glass 5 all the way around and sapphire crystal for the camera cover. But all these hardness ratings and scratch tests exist because ALL phones scratch and chip... some more than others. You're gonna have to pay however many thousands of dollars Apple was going to charge people for a sapphire crystal-encased phone before they scrapped that idea to get something that will really stand up to scratches and "hairline fractures."
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right, but a hairline fracture on the screen is absurd.. that will actually affect the viewing. My Nexus 5X is mostly plastic aside from the screen and for now I'm sticking with this phone..

What if the plastic breaks, does this affect water resistance? should I even worry about it?