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[Q] SGS2 Overheating?

I've been having a few issues with a couple of games freezing and have also had the phone get quite hot, particularly around the camera end. The two games I've had freeze up a lot are Fruit Slice and Pinball Classic, neither are spectacular graphics wise. Basically the games just freeze up and either I'm ejected to the home screen or I have to power off/restart. Occasionally I do get the "Force Close" box, but not very often, this contrary to what I would expect if it were just a normal bug related issue. sometimes it crashes after 5 mins or so, other times straight away. What makes me think it might be overheating is that once it does freeze up, it will do so again almost instantly if I relaunch. The rest of the phone seems okay in operation, I've run a few benchmarks and stress tests, all run okay so far. However (and it is a BIG however), once the phone has got warm, if I go to adjust my screen brightness I am limited to how high I can raise it and receive the following message: "To avoid overheating, maximum brightness has been reduced" (I've attached a screen print below).
Does anybody else get these issues or that message?

Got that "To avoid overheating..." message too while using Navigon Mobile Navigator inside my car (attached to charger).
In some other post I also read about a message like "To avoid overheating, the charging process has been paused", but this depends on the temperature of the battery only (I think).
Regarding the crashing games, that might be a problem of the game. But I had some crashing games, too, but I could not find a relation to the temperature of the phone.
Anyway, it could still be a heat problem.
In my opinion it would had be better for samsung to make the phone some mm thicker to better deal with heat and including a more powerful battery than just claiming to have the thinnest superphone.
Anyway, its still a great device.

Useful to hear it happens on other handsets, in fact I've now found a few threads talking about the issue happening on other models of samsung phone, such as the Infuse.
On the crashing games front, would you mind trying out Fruit Slice for a bit, to see if it hangs on you? If it dosen't crash after 10 mins or so I would think you're okay.

about overheating
i did experience it
when i left the phone in the car it became very hot and i get the same message

TacticalTimbo said:
On the crashing games front, would you mind trying out Fruit Slice for a bit, to see if it hangs on you? If it dosen't crash after 10 mins or so I would think you're okay.
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I'll try that as soon as I have it back (and if I remember to test), its currently at the repair facility because of a faulty camera.

EvilGeniusHST said:
I'll try that as soon as I have it back (and if I remember to test), its currently at the repair facility because of a faulty camera.
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Cheers, really appreiated. Just to update, I played it again just now, managed 3 games before it froze and kicked me out to the home screen; again no crash dialoge asking force close/wait?! I also checked my temp immediatly after it crashed, using Stability Test V1.5, it reported 31c, which dosen't sound too hot from what I've heard...who knows, cheers agian though!

EvilGeniusHST said:
I'll try that as soon as I have it back (and if I remember to test), its currently at the repair facility because of a faulty camera.
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Cheers, really appreiated. Just to update, I played it again just now, managed 3 games before it froze and kicked me out to the home screen; again no crash dialoge asking force close/wait?! I also checked my temp immediatly after it crashed, using Stability Test V1.5, it reported 31c, which dosen't sound too hot from what I've heard...who knows, cheers agian though!
sorry about the double post

Okay, I've been playing now about 15+ minutes without any problem. The phone doesnt get even hot, just a little bit warm. Using Navigon Navigator it gets a LOT more hotter.
So maybe you should try a factory reset? Or its a faulty phone...
By the way, I had display brightness set to Auto and I'm on german KE7 firmware.

Touchscreen sensitivity

Been using the 2nd gen Moto G for a week and I've noticed the touch screen isn't as sensitive/accurate as my previous phone (NEXUS 4). For example, when I scroll (in Facebook, Chrome etc.), the app opens links and images if my thumb is over either one. It's the same with gallery. If I were to scroll then halt, it'll open the image under my thumb. It's doesn't happen often, but enough to take notice. I have to press slightly harder (compared the NEXUS 4) for the Moto's touch screen to register accurately. Can't use light touches reliably at all. Has anyone experienced similar/same issue?

Not an issue with me like this
Works fine

It is by no means bad, but it takes a little bit of getting used to. I'm guessing they'll fix it via OTA if it needs fixing.

I have noticed the same thing. I am also coming from nexus 4. I find these touch issues very irritating. Overall scrolling isn't as smooth as the n4 as well. I think scrolling could be related to the kernel configuration.

anshumandash said:
I have noticed the same thing. I am also coming from nexus 4. I find these touch issues very irritating. Overall scrolling isn't as smooth as the n4 as well. I think scrolling could be related to the kernel configuration.
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Glad I ain't the only one. Hopefully it is software related and can be addressed via update

I have this only when I charge my phone with a specific wall adapter, everything else is fine

Gabboplano said:
I have this only when I charge my phone with a specific wall adapter, everything else is fine
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Strange, I didn't notice this issue before yesterday's OTA.
Will try other another wall adapter.
I'm currently using the Sony/Ericsson LwW adapter (5V/800mA).

My Moto G 2nd Gen had this issue too, but it also had problems where occasionally the touch screen would interpret scrolling as tapping and vice versa, in the end, I had to RMA it.

I had mentioned earlier that sometime scrolling would consider as tapping and would open apps/links etc. Some time tapping needed multiple taps. I just removed the screen guard and this problem is mostly not noticeable any more. Just thought this information might help some one.
My phone came with the official charger of 550 MA and I don't get any screen freezing while the phone is charging with it.

Okay, i had this problem too. However i got the phone replaced so now i'm using a different handset and the issue is resolved for me. At first even i thought that this is the problem related to the software but i started to notice this over and over again. So i spoke to flipkart and they agreed to replace the handset. So i suggest to all the people who are having this problem to get your phone replaced.
Sent from my Nexus 5

sahil kaul said:
Okay, i had this problem too. However i got the phone replaced so now i'm using a different handset and the issue is resolved for me. At first even i thought that this is the problem related to the software but i started to notice this over and over again. So i spoke to flipkart and they agreed to replace the handset. So i suggest to all the people who are having this problem to get your phone replaced.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Did you have the problem even without a screen guard? After I removed the screen guard, I get this tap while scrolling may be only once a day. Normal sensitivity is far better without a screen guard.

anshumandash said:
Did you have the problem even without a screen guard? After I removed the screen guard, I get this tap while scrolling may be only once a day. Normal sensitivity is far better without a screen guard.
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As soon as i got the phone, i booted it up with the screen guard on that's when i first realise that there is a problem with the scrolling and tapping on the touch screen. I removed the screen guard immediately and even after that the scrolling was mistaken for tapping. Used it for a few days and still had the issue. It did not happen very often if I compare it with the screen on time, but it was enough for me to be pissed at. I would rate it at about 30 % of the time when im scrolling, sometimes in a music playlist or when i am browsing or scrolling just about anything.
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sahil kaul said:
As soon as i got the phone, i booted it up with the screen guard on that's when i first realise that there is a problem with the scrolling and tapping on the touch screen. I removed the screen guard immediately and even after that the scrolling was mistaken for tapping. Used it for a few days and still had the issue. It did not happen very often if I compare it with the screen on time, but it was enough for me to be pissed at. I would rate it at about 30 % of the time when im scrolling, sometimes in a music playlist or when i am browsing or scrolling just about anything.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I have another question. In the new phone do you see any stuttering or jitter while scrolling through apps. It harkens to me in many apps even on g+, scrolling through contacts, Facebook, Tapatalk etc. I know this could be software related. But just wanted to check with you. Now the tapping during scrolling issue happens really less, but it happens if the scrolling is jittery.

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anshumandash said:
I have another question. In the new phone do you see any stuttering or jitter while scrolling through apps. It harkens to me in many apps even on g+, scrolling through contacts, Facebook, Tapatalk etc. I know this could be software related. But just wanted to check with you. Now the tapping during scrolling issue happens really less, but it happens if the scrolling is jittery.
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I have a feeling that is also to blame. I've noticed it when using FB, Chrome etc.
The surface of the glass may also be one of the culprits. My thumb and fingers don't glide as well on the Moto compared to my NEXUS 4. Sometimes I have to apply bit more pressure to keep my thumb firmly on the screen. Otherwise I can feel it loosing contact. It's very obvious after cleaning the screen with soft cloth. Maybe it is to do with the coating? I've ran touch screen tests and the screen detects inputs just fine. I don't see the point of returning mine, cos they won't find anything wrong with it.
PS: Android L should drastically reduce or eliminate stutters (and lag) thanks to Android Run Time (ART). People are already seeing major improvements, but I don't recommend enabling it in KitKat. It's can screw up your phone and apps. But if you wanna take the risk, click on ART Under "Select Runtime" option in developer options.

touch sensitivity
this problem appeared once, after an update from motorola.
Factory resetting it solved the problem xd

Nielo TM said:
I have a feeling that is also to blame. I've noticed it when using FB, Chrome etc.
The surface of the glass may also be one of the culprits. My thumb and fingers don't glide as well on the Moto compared to my NEXUS 4. Sometimes I have to apply bit more pressure to keep my thumb firmly on the screen. Otherwise I can feel it loosing contact. It's very obvious after cleaning the screen with soft cloth. Maybe it is to do with the coating? I've ran touch screen tests and the screen detects inputs just fine. I don't see the point of returning mine, cos they won't find anything wrong with it.
PS: Android L should drastically reduce or eliminate stutters (and lag) thanks to Android Run Time (ART). People are already seeing major improvements, but I don't recommend enabling it in KitKat. It's can screw up your phone and apps. But if you wanna take the risk, click on ART Under "Select Runtime" option in developer options.
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I completely agree with you. This phone has got two coatings. One called splash resistant and the the other is finger print resistant coating. I think those are another cause the finger doesn't glide well on the screen. I am also coming from Nexus 4 and I can feel this problem every time as I still carry the N4 with me. I too ran touch screen tests and everything looks fine. I am not sure if I RMA how will the 2nd device behave. It might be same. I can actually replace it from Flipkart.com from where I bought, but I am not sure if that will help.
I read some review comparison between the new moto g and new moto x and the reviewer has commented that Moto x 2014 screen is far more responsive than the moto g 2014. I know the problem was real bad with the stock screen guard on the screen. If I need to manage with the phone, I know I will have to use the phone without a screen guard.
I tried using ART as I have been using that on my N4 since Jan 2014. But in Moto g the app optimization starts at every boot with ART taking more than 10 mins for every boot. I wrote a mail to Moto support and they said there is a technical problem with the builds and they suggested me to use Dalvik. I think they won't fix it till Android L drops in.

[POLL: Vote 4 Yours] Summary of issues people having with g4

Let's be clear. G4 is an awesome device. But it's still kindof in the pre-production phage, don't you think? It's not even available 10 countries in the world. Anyway many of who have already bought LG G4, are actually migrated from another smartphone branding either HTC, Samsung, Nexus, Apple etc. And the youtubers contributed a lot in this publicity for LG. I hardly found anyone said any bad thing about G4, neither about it's battery life nor performance in those videos or reviews. But these two have become the most concerning area as well as disappointment for many of the users right now. I, myself also have been suffering with a few issues. I have already changed one device. Coming from XDA forum, here I will try my best to summarize all the problems people are facing with their G4 & also my observation on that matter from my personal experience as well as gathered knowledge from almost all the forums in XDA:
1. MISSED TAP:
Almost all users reporting that G4 missing many taps to recognize.
My observation:
Well, I have also experienced a few missed taps. But what I think it's not a LCD issue, rather less optimization/smoothness issue of the G4 ROM. How do I know? Well I switched on the touch sound. And every tap I did, including the missed ones, there was tapping sound. Even I tested in the manual testing, nothing reported like that. And even after formatting, symptoms reduced for some. But surely it's very annoying.
Oh one thing about knock codes, I found LG LCD doesn't response to gentlest touches sometimes. You need to press slightly a bit more. Fact to be considered : I am still using the provided plastic protector.
2. LAGGING ISSUE:
There is stuttering here and there in G4, not only in the stock launcher but also in the whole system.
My observations:
No doubt G4 lags. You will notice less smoothness / sluggishness while sliding any page up & down in chrome, youtube, Google plus or anything. It is not "butter smooth" like some other OEMs for most of the users. But switching to Nova, turning off smart bulletin & dual window helped to some extent, but not completely.
3. BATTERY LIFE:
Many of the moderate to heavy users complaining about quick battery drainage with low to medium brightness.
My observations:
LG said many things about their battery life of G4 in their announcement party and many well-known youtubers also said very much positive things about G4's battery life i.e. it can easily last a day which raised up the expectation bar of many users. But the real scenario is quite not like that. Most of the medium to heavy users are getting average 3 - 4.5 hours SOT with keeping screen brightness low to medium which is not at all the way LG mentioned. It seems like LG is providing that extra battery knowing the fact that you will need to put on that extra one at the middle of the day for sure. Anyway, what I found is: G4's stand-by time is OUTSTANDING. Don't turn on that screen much, only receive a few calls, you can pass a decade (not literally) with a single charge. But turn on that screen, do browse, chat, Facebooking or Youtubing or anything keeping that overkill screen on, you will hardly pass 5 hours maximum. Raise the brightness a bit more, like 75-100%, brother, you are doomed. Your G4 will die within hours. For some, turning off auto brightness & keeping the brightness below 50% all the time, turning off fast-dormency, turning off GPS, using Greenify helped a bit. Anyway, my point is that awesome-bright-vivid-overkill screen is actually the curse for the G4 at present if LG doesn't bring up some solutions for it. What's the point if you can not enjoy the juice of a fruit which is known to be the tastiest of them all???
4. HEATING & SLOW CHARGING ISSUE:
Very limited people including mine are complaining of frequent, not consistent, heating up issue of the phone as well as slow charging.
My observations:
Many factors can be responsible for this. Some people find this scenario happening once a day, for some once in two days and these two issues are interconnected in my opinion. What can heat up the phone? May be some hidden apps, maybe weather, maybe some other things, but surely it does for some. Yah we have seen in all the reviews that G4 warms up a bit, but not very much. But the people who are complaining about it, found it uncomfortable to speak touching the phone to the face. I will attach a screenshot here, in which my phone was completely idle, was on charge, no phone call came & my phone got heat up to 42 degrees & it took almost 5 hours to charge from 20 - 100%. Again I am saying this is not a consistent scenario, but it's frustrating for some including mine.
5. OTHER ISSUES:
These are some random issues found by some people:
a) White sparking light in the screen.
b) Yellow tint on screen.
c) Bad bluetooth audio.
d) Wifi speed problem.
e) Helium app doesn't work properly.
f) Nova launcher cannot install properly.
g) Vibration too soft.
h) Auto brightness inconsistancy.
So guys, if you have read it and if you are one of those renowned youtubers or columnists or bloggers whom LG guys follow on regular basis, please make an article or video about it, spread these information and let the LG guys know about these so that they can do something about it. I personally believe, software update can solve 95% of the issues. So be it.
Thanks for your patience to read my post.

I guess I've been pretty lucky thusfar.
Only missed taps I've had is on the double-tap to wake, but I think it might be due to my hardly tapping it (was used to HTC's touch profile last time I had this feature).
No lags here. I did notice that once, when I hit Home button, I returned to a blank home screen and it took about 5 seconds for the icons/widgets to show up...hasn't happened since the one time, though.
Charging, I use the stock charger from my old Note 4, so I get decent times with that (generally 10%-100% in about 50 mins...I'll take that).
As far as battery, I get about 3 hours screen on and 16-18 hours total per charge. Not bad considering I'm a heavy user when the screen is on and stream Spotify via BT speaker 12 hours/day while at work. I've only been through 3 charge cycles so far. It's still not what I was used to with the M8 or Note 4, so I will admit I'd like it to be better.
I think I would go just about nuts if I had any of 5a, b, c, or d. LOL

5d is a huge concern for me. My WiFi speed is complete bollocks. I'm getting a reading of 60mb down from my 5gh router when running speedtest on the phone. But when I actually load a website it's like I'm using dial up again. The load times are atrocious! I'm going to look into changing chanels on my router as someone has mentioned as a fix. Fingers crossed

I haven't had any of those issues. Honestly been flawless so far. Surprised by how smooth it is. I do only get 3 hours sot if I run power intensive apps. But I think that's normal.

The only real issue I've had is **** slowness on Wi-Fi but blazing speed on data
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Wifi speeds are complete crap for me i swear it's like im on dial up waiting for a page to load and forget about getting youtube to load

Th3Bill said:
I guess I've been pretty lucky thusfar.
Only missed taps I've had is on the double-tap to wake, but I think it might be due to my hardly tapping it (was used to HTC's touch profile last time I had this feature).
No lags here. I did notice that once, when I hit Home button, I returned to a blank home screen and it took about 5 seconds for the icons/widgets to show up...hasn't happened since the one time, though.
Charging, I use the stock charger from my old Note 4, so I get decent times with that (generally 10%-100% in about 50 mins...I'll take that).
As far as battery, I get about 3 hours screen on and 16-18 hours total per charge. Not bad considering I'm a heavy user when the screen is on and stream Spotify via BT speaker 12 hours/day while at work. I've only been through 3 charge cycles so far. It's still not what I was used to with the M8 or Note 4, so I will admit I'd like it to be better.
I think I would go just about nuts if I had any of 5a, b, c, or d. LOL
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Same here. Not sure why there is so much inconsistency between devices. I bought the US trial version, and mine has been relatively good. If I had half of the problems reported I would have sold this thing ASAP and waited for a better crop of devices to come out this fall. I'm one of the few people who really like a stripped down TouchWiz, but with Knox/sealed but not waterproof body/no SD/weak battery the S6 wasn't cutting it. If only Samsung sold the Exynos to these other vendors... For now, I'm fine with the G4, but really hope we get root and unlocked BL so development explodes and the kernel can get tweaked.

Only problem I've had is holding back my enthusiasm about how flawless this phone is ( my wife would try to hijack it if she knew how impressed I am). I do miss 4 buttons on the bottom though

knoshann said:
Only problem I've had is holding back my enthusiasm about how flawless this phone is ( my wife would try to hijack it if she knew how impressed I am). I do miss 4 buttons on the bottom though
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You can add the 4th button. You can add up to 5. Settings - Display - Home touch buttons - Button combination

Perfect summary.
I've also seen a lot of people saying that they aren't having these problems which can lead to people thinking the phone is perfect, which it's not. I love the screen size and the display but the software is really letting this phone down.
I've experienced many problems too, such as: stuttering, poor battery life at high brightness, brightness dimming down by itself, slow charging, lag and stutter in games, e.g. dead trigger 2 and subway surfers (yes I've turned off game optimiser) and the notification pull down freezing frequently when I get a notification. However, as I saw a lot of people saying that their phones were perfect I chose to exchange my phone instead of return it. My new phone has the exact same problems (uk device on v10a).
Maybe these problems can be fixed with a software update but the question is will it? My G3 lagged and stuttered from the beginning and no software update changed that. The only fix was to switch to a cm12 rom which made the phone finally perform smoothly, at the cost of battery life and camera quality.
It's been at least 3 phones in a row now that have had poor software (g3, g flex 2 and now g4). They're supposed to test their phones before putting them out to consumers but it doesn't seem like they really care so I don't have much hope.
Worst thing is I really want to love this phone and think LG's hardware design is perfect but the software is most likely going to make me sell it.

It might be worth mentioning which version you're on, especially if it's one where the provider (such as VZW) has bogged it down with bloatware. That could conceivably be a contributing factor to battery life issues, if nothing else.

Just a suggestion. Might be a good idea for people to put which model they're on and which Software version they're running.
Like I'm on the H811 running version 81110D. That way, we can see if any issues might be carrier type or software version based...
Just a thought.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but on the Sprint model the WiFi randomly turns itself on. I rarely use WiFi, so it's definitely not me turning it on and forgetting that i did or anything.

I was having a issue where my screen Brightness would change on it's own. Tmobile H811 running version 81110D ? I believe that was the version before the update I got and installed on its own last night of H. When I mean change on it's own I had the Screen Brightness on 100% like every other phone and after the few secs when the screen dims and you touch it again the screen brightness would now be set to 70% now 100%. AUTO is off I don't use that.
I will see if this happens on the H update or not.

Ogre6473 said:
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but on the Sprint model the WiFi randomly turns itself on. I rarely use WiFi, so it's definitely not me turning it on and forgetting that i did or anything.
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I've actually seen this on the TMO version (8110d). Very sporadic (or it happens more than I realize but I don't spend enough time looking at the phone to notice, not sure which).
I've also seen it randomly turn OFF wifi (just happened 30 seconds ago) for no reason. Interestingly enough THAT one might be oddly due to some weird power saving feature or something as I was just able to reproduce it 3 times in a row turning the screen off and on.
Screen on=wifi on
Screen off=wifi off
Weird stuff.

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I've actually seen this on the TMO version (8110d). Very sporadic (or it happens more than I realize but I don't spend enough time looking at the phone to notice, not sure which).
I've also seen it randomly turn OFF wifi (just happened 30 seconds ago) for no reason. Interestingly enough THAT one might be oddly due to some weird power saving feature or something as I was just able to reproduce it 3 times in a row turning the screen off and on.
Screen on=wifi on
Screen off=wifi off
Weird stuff.
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Go into Wi-Fi Settings.
Under Advanced Wifi Settings
In Useful Settings, there is a setting for "Keep Wi-Fi on when screen is off".
It's set to NO by default.
I would imagine it's some sort of power saving feature.

smw6180 said:
I've also seen it randomly turn OFF wifi (just happened 30 seconds ago) for no reason. Interestingly enough THAT one might be oddly due to some weird power saving feature or something as I was just able to reproduce it 3 times in a row turning the screen off and on.
Screen on=wifi on
Screen off=wifi off
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In setting, wifi, advanced there is an option for turning off wifi when the screen is off. Check that and wifi will stay on. Still haven't digured out why it's turning itself on though.

Ogre6473 said:
In setting, wifi, advanced there is an option for turning off wifi when the screen is off. Check that and wifi will stay on. Still haven't digured out why it's turning itself on though.
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I haven't touched anything in Wi-Fi settings other than setting my passkey and turning "Always allow scanning" off. That setting for Wi-Fi off when screen is off was on when I got the phone. Looks like default position.

It probably doesn't help that they keep losing software engineers at their California office (i work at LG). Senior engineers to make things worse.

The yellow tint on the screen is the part that upsets me the most. The lead-up to the G4's release was all about how superior the screen is to the G3's. Yet the G4's I've received have had yellow tint issue (two of them so far). The screen also appears dimmer than my old G3 at max brightness as well (this is before auto dimming kicks in too.)
There seems to be a rather big shipment of G4's with yellow screens in my area. I've been to 4 different AT&T stores in the past 4 days and have seen at least 5 brand new phones with the yellow tint. It seems to be restricted to the grey metallic retail ones as well. None of the display models or the leather backed ones I've seen thus far as the yellow tint issue. This is in Houston, TX btw. I'm heading to a 5th after work in the hopes of finding a G4 with a non-defective screen.

Slow finger scroll issue

Guys, this might be a solution to the jittery slow finger scrolling that seems to be plaguing “some” PH1 devices.
Before I get flamed, please note I’m genuinely trying to help out this community. I don’t own an essential phone but i’d like to. I own a oneplus 3 and recently experienced exactly the same slow finger scroll jitteryness even though flick scrolling was pure butter. This began to happen on my device all of a sudden and I tried everything (and I mean EVERYTHING!) to get to the bottom of why normal scrolling lists etc was totally smooth but if you dragged your finger slowly to scroll it was horribly jittery or juddery. I even tried different kernels, GPU Rendering toggling etc etc etc. I finally got my slow finger scrolling back to being buttery smoooth again purely by chance.
I removed 2 apps that I had set “on” in accessibility settings. BAM! Slow scrolling changed immediately from horrible to smooth. Now I dont know if it was having both apps enabled in Accessibility settings or just one but I dont really care. All I know is that my phone responded immediately on making this change, no need for a reboot. Why did this make my phone slow scrolling lag? I’ve no idea. But, just to double check it was this I re-enabled the 2 apps in Accessibility settings and guess what, normal scrolling stayed buttery smooth but slow finger scrolling changed back to lumpy, jittery, almost like the text was vibrating as it scrolled on the screen.
I know some of you will think “WTF!” and so did I on discovering this. Why would this innocuous setting make a difference to scrolling???
Anyway, give this a try. I know my phone is different to yours but the way my phone went was exactly like the scrolling on the essential phone in the youtube videos floating around. Horrible!! Afterwards, my scrolling is back to pure butter in all scenarios.
I hope this solves the issue for you guys. Good luck and let me know if this works for you
p.s. just to be clear, my 2 apps were Nova launcher and Caller Name Talker. Setting both these to “off” did the trick for me. In your case I’d advise setting ANY apps you have “on” in Accessibility settings to “off”. If it doesn’t work immediately, try a reboot although my Oneplus 3 didn’t need a reboot :good:

Thanks for the tips!! Unfortunately I currently have Nova Launcher set to "off" in the accessibility settings and don't have the other app you're talking about. I still have the stutter
Good thing is, Essential said they do have a fix for it and will push it out in the next OTA this month

flakko86 said:
Thanks for the tips!! Unfortunately I currently have Nova Launcher set to "off" in the accessibility settings and don't have the other app you're talking about. I still have the stutter
Good thing is, Essential said they do have a fix for it and will push it out in the next OTA this month
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Well if they do manage to fix this issue then I will definitely buy one. Providing of course that they sort out any early batch quality control issues too. This is without doubt the most beautiful phone ever created.
Camera quality is not important to me but smoothness is my thing. Thats why I don’t buy Samsung/HTC/LG anymore. I’ve seen my brothers s7 edge and it’s a disgraceful stutter/lagfest compared to my Oneplus 3. I got fed up of trying to hone laggy “flagship” phones to be smoother years ago. Pure android or as close to it now for me.
Only totally smooth phones I’ve ever known are Nexus, Oneplus and Pixel phones. My current Oneplus 3 is the smoothest android experience Ive ever had upto now and although I was looking to upgrade in 2017 to something with a SD835 chip, nothing apart from Essential phone has perked my interest so far.

Good to know there's an OTA coming. Mine seems worse when I'm plugged in charging. Scrolling twitter it will freeze, then sometimes it jumps around opening links I never clicked on.
Also, anyone have trouble registering presses on the edge of phone? Any settings in the top right take about 4 or 5 presses to open.

The official fix is coming. Essential received a fix from Qualcomm and it will be included in Octobers second update, it also includes latest security patch

Android 10 stable UI lag

Hi,
I've noticed a UI lag when switching between apps or transitioning from an open app to home screen. This didn't happen in the Android 10 beta rom. Anybody have the same issue? I clean flashed the stable android 10.

I can confirm this issue in the stable release. But I would like to add that this lag was already in the beta release and is in my testing not app specific. I would clear the cache and make a reboot.

Go into developer options and disable the three animation types. Everything runs MUCH faster with them off.

Floridaplur said:
Go into developer options and disable the three animation types. Everything runs MUCH faster with them off.
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I have, and while it does suppress animations, it actually feels less polished. And anyway, it does not resolve the UI lag which is really visible when using th app switcher. It's dropping below like 10fps. As if some gfx acceleration was disabled or the phone was completely overwhelmed

Anyone found a fix? I experience the lag every once in a while, though it's prevalent enough to be annoying.

I am having this literally every time i use the alt-tab like feature. Oneplus managed to **** up the one thing (butter smooth) Google has been bragging about for several versions ???

A simple fix would be toh format device once, as I have clean flashed and I don't face any lags

Dissable ram boost in system settings

fress said:
Dissable ram boost in system settings
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I'm having random lag too. I'l try to disable RAM boost and is if it helps.

fress said:
Dissable ram boost in system settings
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doesn't change a thing. (and am wondering it would. This feature is supposed to make smoothness (even) better, not worse)

Turn off auto brightness .. maybe it can help

I have been reading up on the A10 stable release posts and I saw a lot of people mentioning the issue that you are talking about here.
Many of them suggested a full format. So basically setting up your device as a new device.
I cannot confirm if this works for everyone but a lot of people are saying that after a fresh install they are not facing any issues.
All of the points mentioned above are just what I read from xda and op forum posts. I personally have not made the switch yet and probably wont be doing so soon.

Hey guys. I encountered the same problem on my Nokia 9. Not quite sure why this error doesn't get noticed by more people.
I think I fixed it for me though.
In my case it seemed that the OLED always on screen (which shows notifications and the time) was the problem in my case. It would always show that there are notifications even if there weren't any and that started adding up. So while the rest of my phone ran buttery smooth, the notification bar and lockscreen began looking like a Diashow. 2-5 fps sometimes. What I think is happening is that all these notifications are buggy and the always on screen can't get rid of them.
So my fix was turning that off and then restarting my phone. Since that everything runs smooth again.
If there is another thread I should post this to please tell me but I only found this one.
Hope it helped.

maxsak said:
Hey guys. I encountered the same problem on my Nokia 9. Not quite sure why this error doesn't get noticed by more people.
I think I fixed it for me though.
In my case it seemed that the OLED always on screen (which shows notifications and the time) was the problem in my case. It would always show that there are notifications even if there weren't any and that started adding up. So while the rest of my phone ran buttery smooth, the notification bar and lockscreen began looking like a Diashow. 2-5 fps sometimes. What I think is happening is that all these notifications are buggy and the always on screen can't get rid of them.
So my fix was turning that off and then restarting my phone. Since that everything runs smooth again.
If there is another thread I should post this to please tell me but I only found this one.
Hope it helped.
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I think the issue is just : it's a ****show of awful coding, optimisation and non-existent testing. If manufacturers' programmers put in half the effort debugging their software we as "powerusers" at xda/reddit/... put twisting our brains in and out trying find correlating explanations and workarounds as to why we get UI lags or other absurd bugs (like 5GHz wifi not working anymore) on the 10th ****ing iteration of Android, we wouldn't have all of this. It all boils down to the general idea that because it is consumer grade product, quality check is just a non-subject. Apparent quality is just enough at product launch, and further updates (if they do get round to releasing them) can brake everything without manufacturers being held accountable.

The update showed up on my phone on the 25th, but, I'm NOT updating. 9 is too damn stable for me, & I don't see any "features" in 10 that will benefit me.

After reading all this i am not going to update to 10. Yet happy with 9.17.
Tmob unbranded dual sim op6t.

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I have the OnePlus 6, and have similar issues, that include swapping apps being slow, but not just the swapping of apps, any app that has typing in it, seems to DIE when I start typing. Maybe this is a google keyboard issue or something? I notice the issue most in the Microsoft Teams mobile app. It also tends to only happen when at least 2 apps are open, if it's on it's own, it seems to do fine.
This might just be coincidence but I went into dev settings and turned on "strict mode" and now I can't get it to lag like it previously did.
I just looked at my running services (dev options > running services) and saw that my Bluetooth was using 2.2GB of ram, and youtube was 1.7GB of that. I toggled bluetooth off, then back on and it reset this. I have not modified the strict mode setting above... still have not had any lag, will update this thread if I do get more lag.

MightySashiman said:
I think the issue is just : it's a ****show of awful coding, optimisation and non-existent testing. If manufacturers' programmers put in half the effort debugging their software we as "powerusers" at xda/reddit/... put twisting our brains in and out trying find correlating explanations and workarounds as to why we get UI lags or other absurd bugs (like 5GHz wifi not working anymore) on the 10th ****ing iteration of Android, we wouldn't have all of this. It all boils down to the general idea that because it is consumer grade product, quality check is just a non-subject. Apparent quality is just enough at product launch, and further updates (if they do get round to releasing them) can brake everything without manufacturers being held accountable.
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Lagging issue I've seen many reporting in xda on the stock rom OOS 10.3.0. But 5GHz is working as expected. I can confirm it because I'm using 5GHz WiFI now and then

adondriel said:
I have the OnePlus 6, and have similar issues, that include swapping apps being slow, but not just the swapping of apps, any app that has typing in it, seems to DIE when I start typing. Maybe this is a google keyboard issue or something? I notice the issue most in the Microsoft Teams mobile app. It also tends to only happen when at least 2 apps are open, if it's on it's own, it seems to do fine.
This might just be coincidence but I went into dev settings and turned on "strict mode" and now I can't get it to lag like it previously did.
I just looked at my running services (dev options > running services) and saw that my Bluetooth was using 2.2GB of ram, and youtube was 1.7GB of that. I toggled bluetooth off, then back on and it reset this. I have not modified the strict mode setting above... still have not had any lag, will update this thread if I do get more lag.
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After a night/day of normal testing with this, where I would normally have issues, I have not had and of the lag I mentioned above. This seems to have fixed some things. So, I would suggest that you first check to see what running processes are using all the ram, and then turn on strict mode in dev settings, if that doesn't solve your issues. I also have Ram Boost option turned off.

I experience the FPS drop quite often after the update. It's especially noticable when scrolling pages, switching between apps, pulling down the upper panel. The slowness seems to disappear temporarily after closing all apps. But I can't say that some particular app causes the lag.
UPD: A simple test to recreate the problem. I push the square button to switch between apps. Start swiping finger left-right and watch the animation smoothness. After 5-10 seconds comes the wave of low FPS, which lasts for a couple of seconds. Then the process repeats. The slowness doesn't seem to depend on some exact apps that are open.
UPD2: Well, I've just found out that the problem isn't constant throughout the day. There must be some connection to applications running in the background or something like this.