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10 things that I hate about Gingerbread!

I really wonder why there is none of such thread here!
Gingerbread unfortunately brought only bad things to my Nexus. I already forgot why I was so crazy about installing it.
What feature did it introduce again?
Okay the response is much better and everything seems faster...but with lots of bugs?
That screen off animation? Seriously?
Things that I hate now:
- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day with lot of usage, b
efore I could listen to mp3's one day, ie. more than 4 hours without any problems...now
- Camera: either Cam or Video, the application crashes after I take a photo or video and then I can not connect to it anymore
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- unlock screen: I use a pattern, often there is no overlay of what pattern I drag, still the screen can be unlocked
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- 3G and Wifi: if you are connected to wifi more than 15 minutes and then disconnect from it you do not get any 3G, you have to go to airplane mode and back, this bug appeared ages ago and was fixed, now back again...tells you a lot about their merging control, ie. sucks
- notification led: you know...
- apps: there are a lot of apps running even though I never used them since restart (see it in a task killer app)
- gps: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- phone reboot: it even rebooted without any notice two times since I installed it
(- Contacts: I still can't enter a simple thing like a birthday on an expensive phone like this)
MOD EDIT: Borderline trolling removed. If you switch OSes, that's your own choice. No one here is stopping you.
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DarsVaeda said:
1. Battery Time
2. Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
3. notification led: you know...
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4. Blank keyboard- fixed by switching to another keyboard and back again, or a reset
5. Blank Launcher- fixed with reset
6. In the stock SMS app a long press>delete conversation doesn't always delete the selected conversation; sometimes you have to do it twice.
As far as battery goes, my display is still the thing that takes up the most battery (which is normal) but I had been experiencing severe declines in battery life. Does the switch to 32-bit color require more processing power and therefore battery?
I *#*#4636#*#*>phone information and saw it was set to WCDMA preferred. I remember playing with the option when froyo came out but didn't remember what it was set to (Maybe Gingerbread reset the option...?). I changed it to GSM PRL (Auto), and have experienced increases in battery life, as my phone isn't hunting for 3G all the time- it uses a service provided list of tower locations.
The LED REALLY bugs me.

Hate about Gingerbread
No trackball wake
Juice Defender Doesn't work (but Green Power does - works well but with less flexibility than JD)
Short battery life
Useless keyboard selection gimmicks

- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
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Well, glad to know mine isn't the only one that does this!!
On Froyo I would wake up in the morning to freshly updated apps that had updated automatically over night.
I have not had this happen a single time on Gingerbread, and nearly every time I go in to the market there are updates waiting.
What is the point of the automatic update feature when it doesn't work???

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To be fair, the OP did mention about switching to Apple.
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GldRush98 said:
Well, glad to know mine isn't the only one that does this!!
On Froyo I would wake up in the morning to freshly updated apps that had updated automatically over night.
I have not had this happen a single time on Gingerbread, and nearly every time I go in to the market there are updates waiting.
What is the point of the automatic update feature when it doesn't work???
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auto update never worked for me, even in froyo.

-Battery with CM7 roms
-Trackball wake blocked in non-CM7 roms
-More difficult to mod themes like statusbar (before we just had to change a png and now we have to edit a bunch of files)
So in summary GB roms are still not stable and complete, they have either TB wake missing or poor battery life too

My annoying issues?
- 2 second mic mute after I answer a call
- stock launcher choking after a while
Less annoying ones:
- Market does not automatically update apps
- gps activations without an apparent reason

My annoyances
In no particular order:
The cursor select triangle not lining up with the cursor
Launcher unresponsive/vanishing
Lockscreen pattern not showing (as in the OP)
Phone randomly stays awake at night
GPS turns itself off
Not able to view an apps wakelock any more
USB mount screen shows 'turn off' even when it isn't mounted (UK issue)
USB debugging icon doesn't appear, or doesn't turn off depending on how you enabled it
Exchange push is just crap now, I swear it's getting worse by the day

DarsVaeda said:
- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day with lot of usage, b
efore I could listen to mp3's one day, ie. more than 4 hours without any problems...now
- Camera: either Cam or Video, the application crashes after I take a photo or video and then I can not connect to it anymore
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- unlock screen: I use a pattern, often there is no overlay of what pattern I drag, still the screen can be unlocked
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- 3G and Wifi: if you are connected to wifi more than 15 minutes and then disconnect from it you do not get any 3G, you have to go to airplane mode and back, this bug appeared ages ago and was fixed, now back again...tells you a lot about their merging control, ie. sucks
- notification led: you know...
- apps: there are a lot of apps running even though I never used them since restart (see it in a task killer app)
- gps: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- phone reboot: it even rebooted without any notice two times since I installed it
(- Contacts: I still can't enter a simple thing like a birthday on an expensive phone like this)
I think there is more if I think about it.
Seriously thinking about switching back.
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While I'm not a big Gingerbread lover at all, here are answers to some of the points:
Battery time is fine, at least in freshly installed ROMs it far exceeds what Froyo mastered.
Camera is your own problem - you didn't update radio, or your update went bad.
Gallery never crashed - again, your own problem (you get the feeling now, right?).
3G and WiFi - again, your own problem. No bug.
Apps - and why do you care? Isn't the "DO NOT USE TASK KILLER" thread clear enough? 150-200MB free RAM aren't self-explanatory?
Due to your comments, you might really consider switching to Apple. It would be beneficial both for you and for this forum.
Or you could back up user data, wipe, install new radio and bootloader, load fresh Gingerbread ROM (NOT CM7 or CM7-based), and have most of your points addressed.
Now, having said that, if you want a much better overall feel - install Froyo-based Desire port, or if you don't have any use for Hotspot - DesireHD port. I hate using barebone Android after some experience with it.

have you guys heard about Cyanogenmod ROM? I am using CM7 RC4 and I have no problems that anyone mentioned in this thread....

Maybe you haven't heard that your experience not necessarily represents anything.
For me (and another 2 guys that asked me to reinstall other ROM on their Nexus Ones), CM7 was a huge, awful pile of bugs. Starting with the ill-famous "wonk".
Plus, again, after having some SenseUI I don't really want to go back to plain Android, and wouldn't suggest it to anyone looking for a good overall experience.

I have an occasional problem with the application tray where it stutters, flashes and doesn't scroll properly. It seems to happen only after exiting certain apps, and needs the launcher to be force closed to fix.

xxlikquidxx said:
have you guys heard about Cyanogenmod ROM? I am using CM7 RC4 and I have no problems that anyone mentioned in this thread....
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Exactly my experience too. Absolutely brilliant ROM.
Jack_R1 said:
..after having some SenseUI I don't really want to go back to plain Android, and wouldn't suggest it to anyone looking for a good overall experience.
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Just lost all credibility in my book...
I would suggest the OP decides what features he/she wants in a ROM and then try a few different ones out. There are plenty to cater to all tastes and i'm sure they'll be able to find one that works well for them.

1. exchange sync stops syncing without any reason. can't start a manual sync. only reboot of the phone helps for a short period of time. needs a fix very urgently.
2. TINY TINY notification icons...the worst idea google had for the GB update. i cannot see the difference between the gmail and exchange mail icon on normal usage in example.
There are some more points which i also mentioned in my blog about gingerbread for nexus one:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2011/03/review-android-2-3-3-gingerbread-for-nexus-one/

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One bug and one annoying change:
- The instability of the launchers. I hope they address this.
- The inaccessible GPS toggle. Tasker can't access it and neither can the toggle widgets. Why did they change this?

my mms sometimes does not send if i configure 2 APNs (one for mobile data and one for mms), while i disable the one for mobile data...
it's working fine on Froyo and CM6 before

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- The inaccessible GPS toggle. Tasker can't access it and neither can the toggle widgets. Why did they change this?
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QFT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Auto brightness adjustment no longer fades, now it just jump straight to the target brightness which is quite abrupt visually.
And of course... trackball wake is gone.

I concur with these points:
- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- GPS: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- Creating shortcuts on desktop: sometimes you can't drag/drop icons to the desktop or to a different spot on the desktop.
- The cursor select triangle not lining up with the cursor
- Auto brightness adjustment no longer fades, now it just jump straight to full bright or full dim.
As for the people suggesting we update the radio and try different roms, while that is primarily what this board is about, it doesn't "solve" anything. This is a stock Nexus One with official everything. If it doesn't work then it doesn't work.

How do I test for true missed touches?

OK, so here's my problem. I recently returned my nexus 7 for a newer production date build because I had a horrible touch screen. I updated the new one and had missed touches/sticky keys but when I unlocked it to apply sfhub's fix it wiped everything and the problem is gone (maybe a bad upgrade install?) Every once in awhile it feels like it's still missing a touch. Like once every couple hours. I've noticed that the touch screen is very sensitive and if I move my finger a little bit while touching it registers as a swipe I guess. Is there a way to see if it's really not seeing the touch or registering as something different? There are no sticky keys whatsoever and multi-touch seems to work fine in a case or out. Does anyone else see this with theirs?
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Enable developer options and see the touches
You can test/verify the touches by enabling the developer options on the Nexus.
To do this, go to settings, go down to "About tablet", and then down again to the build number. Tap the build number information ca. 5 times (5 to 10? after a few taps you will see an info sign about how many times you still have to tap), this enables the developer mode.
In the settings menu there should be now a new item, Developer options (just before the About tablet). In the developer options check the box named "Pointer location".
Now when you touch the screen, with one or more fingers, you can see a screen overlay with coordinates and axles showing where the device sees your touches.
I have the touchscreen problem with missing and sticky touches and pinch and twist problems, the whole menu. For example, using google maps or writing emails is a pain in the ass because of these touchscreen issues.
On my device once I enable the "show the pointer location" -feature, I can clearly see that the device registers the touches right, but it behaves differently from the touches.
According to this I see, at least on my device, this more as a software than a hardware problem, and it looks that the problem is maybe even on a higher API level, which is IMO a good thing, because it _might_ be fixed with a firmware update. The question is, why Google hasn't done this yet, as the issue has been there around the world for a while, and there have already been a couple of updates (Q & R, or even more?) which haven't fixed the problems.
It would be interesting to hear reports of other devices. Test and report!
May82 said:
OK, so here's my problem. I recently returned my nexus 7 for a newer production date build because I had a horrible touch screen. I updated the new one and had missed touches/sticky keys but when I unlocked it to apply sfhub's fix it wiped everything and the problem is gone (maybe a bad upgrade install?) Every once in awhile it feels like it's still missing a touch. Like once every couple hours. I've noticed that the touch screen is very sensitive and if I move my finger a little bit while touching it registers as a swipe I guess. Is there a way to see if it's really not seeing the touch or registering as something different? There are no sticky keys whatsoever and multi-touch seems to work fine in a case or out. Does anyone else see this with theirs?
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Try playing some heavy multitouch games. I'm playing Terraria. Requires fine motion. You'll notice anything in that game.
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kotivalo said:
You can test/verify the touches by enabling the developer options on the Nexus.
To do this, go to settings, go down to "About tablet", and then down again to the build number. Tap the build number information ca. 5 times (5 to 10? after a few taps you will see an info sign about how many times you still have to tap), this enables the developer mode.
In the settings menu there should be now a new item, Developer options (just before the About tablet). In the developer options check the box named "Pointer location".
Now when you touch the screen, with one or more fingers, you can see a screen overlay with coordinates and axles showing where the device sees your touches.
I have the touchscreen problem with missing and sticky touches and pinch and twist problems, the whole menu. For example, using google maps or writing emails is a pain in the ass because of these touchscreen issues.
On my device once I enable the "show the pointer location" -feature, I can clearly see that the device registers the touches right, but it behaves differently from the touches.
According to this I see, at least on my device, this more as a software than a hardware problem, and it looks that the problem is maybe even on a higher API level, which is IMO a good thing, because it _might_ be fixed with a firmware update. The question is, why Google hasn't done this yet, as the issue has been there around the world for a while, and there have already been a couple of updates (Q & R, or even more?) which haven't fixed the problems.
It would be interesting to hear reports of other devices. Test and report!
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Yeah i feel the same too. I think the problem is software/drivers related than hardware and i dunno if there is a "perfect" device out there at all. I feel many casual users are simply not experiencing it. What i find odd is that, it always feels better after a reboot and things start to deteriorate from there. Almost like memory is not being released properly and there's some stucked process being stacked etc etc. Personally i find that eliminating the use of Chrome entirely has worked better for me. Am using only Dolphin now and it's been going very well so far.
The latest touchmark results shows there is a high latency in the Nexus 7 2013 model. It also indicates that it could be due to frequency of CPU polling for touches with a combination of other things in GPU too. IMO i think the high DPI on the screen and the handling of the quadcore processor might require some tweaking to get it perfect. There seems to be too much latencies and perhaps the missed touches / stuck touches are due to a combination of problems in the code with regards to touch events handling. Oh well, regardless i think they need a taskforce behind it to resolve it.
http://appglimpse.com/blog/touchmarks-ii-touchscreen-latencies-in-flagship-tablets/

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http://appglimpse.com/blog/touchmarks-ii-touchscreen-latencies-in-flagship-tablets/
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Interesting!

lomonic said:
Yeah i feel the same too. I think the problem is software/drivers related than hardware and i dunno if there is a "perfect" device out there at all. I feel many casual users are simply not experiencing it. What i find odd is that, it always feels better after a reboot and things start to deteriorate from there. Almost like memory is not being released properly and there's some stucked process being stacked etc etc. Personally i find that eliminating the use of Chrome entirely has worked better for me. Am using only Dolphin now and it's been going very well so far.
The latest touchmark results shows there is a high latency in the Nexus 7 2013 model. It also indicates that it could be due to frequency of CPU polling for touches with a combination of other things in GPU too. IMO i think the high DPI on the screen and the handling of the quadcore processor might require some tweaking to get it perfect. There seems to be too much latencies and perhaps the missed touches / stuck touches are due to a combination of problems in the code with regards to touch events handling. Oh well, regardless i think they need a taskforce behind it to resolve it.
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Thanks lomonic, an interesting link.
I had the former/original Nexus 7 (until my oldest daughter accidentally dropped it in May), and it had no touchscreen issues, at least nothing as bad compared to my new Nexus 7 (2013 model). Yes, it lagged sometimes, as does also my Nexus 4 (mostly noticeable when you slide down the notification menu or open the open applications list), but it had no similar problems with the precision of the touchscreen of the new Nexus 7.
I just tried to reboot the device and also noticed the touchscreen performing a bit better. Though, the problem came back in no time, and after a couple of minutes using Google Maps was the same mess as before. Twisting/rotating the map with two fingers results to pinching/zooming and the map centers somewhere else you want it to. Also in Chrome zooming and scrolling doesn't work as expected, and selecting text is also problematic. Using the keyboard might get you a sticky backspace, which is somewhat annoying. I can only imagine how it would be to try to play touchscreen intensive games, which demand fast and precise touches.
On my Nexus 4 I've also noticed that Chrome seems to slow the whole device, and for this reason I've also been using Dolphin for a while now (but I've yet not deleted Chrome, I just don't use it). Maybe I should dump the whole app from my phone. Also using Clean Master to clean up the memory from apps/processes helps for a while, but only for a while.
Google (or Asus) could verify if there's a sw patch on the way. I'm not a gamer, I mostly use the tablet for surfing and reading, but also these task are not a pleasure with the touchscreen issue. If this problem still persist after a month or so, I really think about returning the device (I bought it just a week ago).

Chrome is super slow.
I don't know why but the stock Android Browser is super fast and awesome. I've been using Next Browser since it is based on Stock Android Browser but the past 2 recent updates have really screwed it up where it is beyond usable. Once it gets resolved, Next is really awesome. It is like Stock on Steroids.
However, regarding touchscreen issues, DON'T GO LOOKING FOR PROBLEMS. If you aren't having issues, then just relax and enjoy your tablet. If your tablet was plagued with a quirky touchscreen driver, then you would notice it. If you can't notice any issues, then you don't have any issues.
Sure there are tests you can run but why bother? It is a software problem and will be fixed eventually. This is not the first Nexus with quirky touchscreen drivers. In fact almost all of my Nexus devices had quirky touchscreen issues out of the box. All were corrected within a few updates. Even the Nexus One had a physical hardware problem with crossing axis that was alleviated using some Google Magic.

May,
I have the exact same issue--but my missed touches are once every 5 minutes--quite annoying when typing an email or typing a password. I haven't unlocked the tablet yet to apply sfhub's fixes--will let you know how it goes.

player911 said:
Chrome is super slow.
I don't know why but the stock Android Browser is super fast and awesome. I've been using Next Browser since it is based on Stock Android Browser but the past 2 recent updates have really screwed it up where it is beyond usable. Once it gets resolved, Next is really awesome. It is like Stock on Steroids.
However, regarding touchscreen issues, DON'T GO LOOKING FOR PROBLEMS. If you aren't having issues, then just relax and enjoy your tablet. If your tablet was plagued with a quirky touchscreen driver, then you would notice it. If you can't notice any issues, then you don't have any issues.
Sure there are tests you can run but why bother? It is a software problem and will be fixed eventually. This is not the first Nexus with quirky touchscreen drivers. In fact almost all of my Nexus devices had quirky touchscreen issues out of the box. All were corrected within a few updates. Even the Nexus One had a physical hardware problem with crossing axis that was alleviated using some Google Magic.
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Stock android is fast but how do you get it with stock rom? chrome replaces it in 4.3 isnt it? OR are you on a custom?
I think the reality is that many are having problems but do not know about it. They may just dismiss it as not being accurate with their own touches. Also for some users, it could likely be their first touch devices and have no prior experiences to compare with. When i've gotten this device, it was working well and all, but it just feels like typing aint that smooth and slowly over time, the problems starts to be more frequent.
There was an incident i had when after a few days of usage, i tried using it with it lying on the bed and it was going crazy - which never happened before. I picked it up (attempt to earth it) and lay it back down again but the results are the same. So i did a reboot with the system on the bed, and all the problems went away. So i'm not sure it has to do with the earthing factor which many are citing.
I think it is a combination of GPU/CPU/memory and touch related event handling factors that causes the problems to occur more frequently after extensive usage. There should be no reason for hardware to perform perfectly after a reboot only to fail over time.
Oh well, only time will tell when these problems would eventually be addressed.

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Stock android is fast but how do you get it with stock rom? chrome replaces it in 4.3 isnt it? OR are you on a custom?
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I guess you mean the stock android browser. It may not be available as an app but it's still there as a WebView component available to developers. I guess Dolphin and many other 3rd party browsers are based on the WebView component or on the source code of it.
The problem with the so called stock browser and WebView is that is uses some legacy HTML and JS engine that has not been updated since 2010 or so. That is another crappy developer "feature" from Google that for 3rd party developers there's no "web browser" component that is based on some up to date rendering engine like Chrome's.

In the Themes and Apps thread, there is a method to allow you to install the stock Browser on a stock rom without being rooted.
Also using Sfhub ts10 gave me a 90% fix but it would still spaz out occasionally and would miss touches or click weird stuff. ts20 really fixed me up right. I can play games now and type with no errors.
ts10 is a really good fix, but ts20 really hit it home.

Anyone having any Lag & Heat Issues???

Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!

You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).

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You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).
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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.

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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.
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welcome to samsung

I have none of these problems and i am a heavy user
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My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.

ShrekOpher said:
My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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borijess said:
I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.

ShrekOpher said:
Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.
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Can you provide a list?
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borijess said:
Can you provide a list?
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Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.

ShrekOpher said:
Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.
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What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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borijess said:
What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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I am not positive but I think it's the UIBCVirtualSoftkey if the doesn't fix it. Just enable all of the stuff you disabled and reboot. Then only disable what's on my list. I can confirm is working with my setup.

I'm exchanging mine tomorrow and was hoping for better news but from your experience it sounds like I may have to deal with an expensive piece of crap.

ShrekOpher said:
My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used this app and it's worked wonders.
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This phone lags a lot especially in Chrome and other scrolling apps.. sometimes switching between apps takes lot of time too...I have been using Samsung phones for quite sometime, but unfortunately this is the phone lagging more than any other phone for me..debloated almost 150 apps, still the same..and it gets hot as well when watching videos...none of this happened for me on Note 5...I think Samsung screwed with Note7 software..when they initially released Grace UX software for Note 5, it was very smooth...but the final Note7 software seems to be laggy...the same apps and setup on Note5 doesn't give me these issues....gonna return and try my luck with new one...but good thing is battery life has been very good for me...easily 5hrs SOT whereas on Note5, I used to get only 3.5 hrs
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chrispyutec said:
Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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I am exactly facing this issue..I am a heavy XDA user, so I monitor all the apps on phone and debloated lot (around 150) apps...still the same.. thing is lag doesn't happen all the times..but it starts from no where..but the phone consistently gets hot while moderate usage
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When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.

Gary02468 said:
When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.
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Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....

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Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....
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No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.

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No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.
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Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?

quordandis said:
Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?
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It happens even with all apps closed, no heat, no battery drain. It's not a side-effect of the phone being bogged down with anything.

Phone lagging need help

Hey guys so I currently have the att lg v20 h910 model I believe and I'm having some issues I'm sure theres a bunch of threads on this already but thought i would just ask. So it's lagging pretty bad In my opinion I love the phone and the specs but I do not understand why it's lagging for what i paid. Coming from mostly iPhones and jailbreaking I'm not really used to android but I damn well love the fact that I can do everything on stock android that I cant do on a stock iPhone basically the Android can do more at stock than basically a jailbroken iPhone can do which is crazy. So the lag I'm experiencing is mostly in YouTube app basically the video will pause but the sound keeps playing so the video is actually playing but the picture that's on the screen is paused and camera which is extremely laggy sometimes I'll open the camera app and it will be shaky and when I move the camera around its blurry and looks like straight up pixels lol looks laggy when moving the camera. sometimes it can be on the home screen randomly sometimes it flys which is weird I don't have alot of apps on here also and I currently do not have a SD card I know this sounds stupid to you guys but remember I'm coming from iPhone... So does a SD card improve performance? Does it get rid of the lag or something? I also would like to note I don't mind rooting as long as it fixes the freaking lag.. Also my device is not a bad apple out of the bunch I actually got a replacement of the same phone from att they logged into my phone and saw the lag sent me the same device and they new device was doing the exact same thing the old device was so I sent back the new one and kept the old bc I have all my apps up here. Any help would be greatly appreciated because I just want to enjoy my phone =(. And sorry for the long post.

Settings/Developer Options/Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" this should make this beast smoother/snappier" If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store! LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts, well optimised with Snapdragon 820 processor and is better than Samsung.
No SD card doesn't slow or lag a powerful phone like the amazing V20, I have tons of storage since I use a 128 GB micro SD and no issues.

What class is your sdcard (if any)? I've found that a slow sdcard can have some terrible effects on performance, in fact this has been an excuse to remove external memory support on some phones by the developers because they tend to be significantly slower than the internal memory.
I have Spotify and the storage set to external on a class 10 cars and there is noticeable lag in the program compared to other programs. It lags just as much as it did on my v10 other programs do not exhibit this behavior.
Also as much as I hate Apple they make some incredibly fast processors and in general their processors are faster than Qualcomm's processors. Still in day to day operations this shouldn't be noticeable and there shouldn't be lag on the v20 as you're describing.
I am running non-rooted and do not experience this lag. If you want to try force GPU rendering you have to enable developer options you can do this by:
- going to settings, go to about phone
- tap software version, tap build number (7 times I believe) you'll be told developer mode enabled or something to that extent
- now go back to settings you'll have a new developer option available
- scroll down until you find "Force GPU rendering", put a check, this may or may not smooth out your performance.
The theory is that this will force the GPU to take on more tasks freeing up the CPU for other tasks, essentially they share the load more.
Welcome to android, you'll be floored by the amount of stuff you can do on android that you can't do on iOS. You should check out some of the 3rd party launchers if you want some more customization to the look of android. I recommend ADW launcher 2.0, Action Launcher or Nova.
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Battery pull, reinstall of app, clear cache; there are various options to remedy your issue. Try all of the suggested routes and see if it helps. Good luck.

Just pointing out he said he has no SD card...
The only lag I have experienced was with my stock messaging app. Typing lag was driving me crazy. Didn't seem to matter which keyboard I used.
I don't know if it's because I don't delete my texts or what but I switched to the Textra messaging app and the lag seems to be gone. (and I like the app better too!)
What you're experiencing definitely doesn't sound "normal".
You shouldn't have to change settings to get a smooth running phone.
It's strange that the replacement showed the same lag. Did you install any apps before testing for lag?
Seems like there could be an app causing this. I'm not really qualified to help except to say it's just not "normal" so I hope you can get it figured out!

Hey guys sorry for late message so yeah I sadly don't have a SD card I feel like I don't really need one I don't use that much data I can add that I use Spotify as well and I have over 2k songs easy I listen to alot of music lol. But I don't think that should make a huge difference in the speed maybe it does idk for sure though. So another extremely noob question can I root with no SD card? If so I'll probaly do it and use a different rom or something hopefully that will help. So enabling developer options with gpu rendering did not help sadly its basically the same performance seems like it. And yes I'm loving the android experience so far but I can say atm iPhone had way better performance as in speed and what not but hopefully if I can get this beast working right I'll be satisfied.

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Just pointing out he said he has no SD card...
The only lag I have experienced was with my stock messaging app. Typing lag was driving me crazy. Didn't seem to matter which keyboard I used.
I don't know if it's because I don't delete my texts or what but I switched to the Textra messaging app and the lag seems to be gone. (and I like the app better too!)
What you're experiencing definitely doesn't sound "normal".
You shouldn't have to change settings to get a smooth running phone.
It's strange that the replacement showed the same lag. Did you install any apps before testing for lag?
Seems like there could be an app causing this. I'm not really qualified to help except to say it's just not "normal" so I hope you can get it figured out!
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Yeah im thinking it could be a app on the phone but idk for sure and not really I actually tried it with factory reset a couple of weeks ago it was about the same experience... At just stock..

Alright guys quick update i actually just got my device rooted took like 2 freaking hours i kept running into issues anyways in the end it did get rooted but its basically acting the same... For instance when the phone cut on finally and finally starting to add all the information to setup my phone the menus were so laggy that it took me 10 mins just get through the setup process... and then on top of that i went into developer options and it froze up and had to reset settings application. I know that it said to do another adb reboot recovery after it finally started back for the first time into android and i did that... but its still extremely slow. And throughout out the setting up the phone process i naturally did not recover the apps from my old phone i wish there was a way to setup the phone just like it was before i rooted it.... I also would like to know what would be best option as far as mods and roms go... I have to have wifi calling as i have no signal in my house which is retarted... so wifi calling has to be on... thats about all i care about i dont need fm radio, or any of that other stuff. (edit) well i recently found out that i screwed up lol i rooted with dirty santa and i thought the wifi calling would only be screwed up with a custom rom boy was i wrong so the wifi calling doesnt work with rooting =( well im going to download the factory rom and reset it again lol.

Slow finger scroll issue

Guys, this might be a solution to the jittery slow finger scrolling that seems to be plaguing “some” PH1 devices.
Before I get flamed, please note I’m genuinely trying to help out this community. I don’t own an essential phone but i’d like to. I own a oneplus 3 and recently experienced exactly the same slow finger scroll jitteryness even though flick scrolling was pure butter. This began to happen on my device all of a sudden and I tried everything (and I mean EVERYTHING!) to get to the bottom of why normal scrolling lists etc was totally smooth but if you dragged your finger slowly to scroll it was horribly jittery or juddery. I even tried different kernels, GPU Rendering toggling etc etc etc. I finally got my slow finger scrolling back to being buttery smoooth again purely by chance.
I removed 2 apps that I had set “on” in accessibility settings. BAM! Slow scrolling changed immediately from horrible to smooth. Now I dont know if it was having both apps enabled in Accessibility settings or just one but I dont really care. All I know is that my phone responded immediately on making this change, no need for a reboot. Why did this make my phone slow scrolling lag? I’ve no idea. But, just to double check it was this I re-enabled the 2 apps in Accessibility settings and guess what, normal scrolling stayed buttery smooth but slow finger scrolling changed back to lumpy, jittery, almost like the text was vibrating as it scrolled on the screen.
I know some of you will think “WTF!” and so did I on discovering this. Why would this innocuous setting make a difference to scrolling???
Anyway, give this a try. I know my phone is different to yours but the way my phone went was exactly like the scrolling on the essential phone in the youtube videos floating around. Horrible!! Afterwards, my scrolling is back to pure butter in all scenarios.
I hope this solves the issue for you guys. Good luck and let me know if this works for you
p.s. just to be clear, my 2 apps were Nova launcher and Caller Name Talker. Setting both these to “off” did the trick for me. In your case I’d advise setting ANY apps you have “on” in Accessibility settings to “off”. If it doesn’t work immediately, try a reboot although my Oneplus 3 didn’t need a reboot :good:

Thanks for the tips!! Unfortunately I currently have Nova Launcher set to "off" in the accessibility settings and don't have the other app you're talking about. I still have the stutter
Good thing is, Essential said they do have a fix for it and will push it out in the next OTA this month

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Thanks for the tips!! Unfortunately I currently have Nova Launcher set to "off" in the accessibility settings and don't have the other app you're talking about. I still have the stutter
Good thing is, Essential said they do have a fix for it and will push it out in the next OTA this month
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Well if they do manage to fix this issue then I will definitely buy one. Providing of course that they sort out any early batch quality control issues too. This is without doubt the most beautiful phone ever created.
Camera quality is not important to me but smoothness is my thing. Thats why I don’t buy Samsung/HTC/LG anymore. I’ve seen my brothers s7 edge and it’s a disgraceful stutter/lagfest compared to my Oneplus 3. I got fed up of trying to hone laggy “flagship” phones to be smoother years ago. Pure android or as close to it now for me.
Only totally smooth phones I’ve ever known are Nexus, Oneplus and Pixel phones. My current Oneplus 3 is the smoothest android experience Ive ever had upto now and although I was looking to upgrade in 2017 to something with a SD835 chip, nothing apart from Essential phone has perked my interest so far.

Good to know there's an OTA coming. Mine seems worse when I'm plugged in charging. Scrolling twitter it will freeze, then sometimes it jumps around opening links I never clicked on.
Also, anyone have trouble registering presses on the edge of phone? Any settings in the top right take about 4 or 5 presses to open.

The official fix is coming. Essential received a fix from Qualcomm and it will be included in Octobers second update, it also includes latest security patch