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Updated X10, very slow after update, advice please.

Hey everyone,
I recently swapped my own X10 for a HTC Desire for a multiutude of reasons I won't go into, but my GF kept her X10 in anticipation of the 2.1 Update. She has updated the phone now, although it did take two hours and kept failing.
Anyway, she is happyish with the phone, but I still feel guilty, as it is so terribly slow, and I recommended the phone to her in the first place.
Anyway onto my question. If anyone has a HTC Desire and an X10, they may have more insight, but basically, the X10, after the update, is really slow.
I have sat my Desire side by side with her X10, and tried to do simple tasks, like go into settings, or load media scape / gallery, or add widgets, etc, and the X10 is sometimes seconds behind the Desire, 5 or 6 seconds behind to add a widget? I am hoping this is due to a bad install of the update but am not sure.
Everything seems to lag, pressing settings, going into the app drawer, loading the messaging app, and it doesnt always take the same amount of time to load things either. Sometimes going into settings comes up instantly, other times it takes up to 5 or 6 seconds. Things just seem to hang for no reason. Even scrolling the app drawer and settings screens up and down seem laggy.
We both have launcher pro installed now too, as I find it to be an amazing launcher, but the X10 with launcher pro is again miles behind speed wise, to the point of, to me anyway, almost unnacceptable lag.
Anyway, I just wondered if anyone, hopefully with both phones too, could advise me. I dont want to advise her to do the update again if it isn't going to help. I am privately hoping it is not the limitations of the X10 that makes Android 2.1 so slow, but just a bad install, but i'm not holding my breath.
Sorry to drone on, and I hope this isnt viewed as too much of a rant or X phone verses Y phone lol.
Thanks
Biff.

Hey,
I used to have a lot of lag in the first week after updating... Its almost all gone now

Heya,
Thanks for the response, and it's a response I was hoping for! Lol. I'll cross my fingers
Biff.

It is a know thing. After a fresh upgrade the first few hours will be laggy but after it goes away. It has to do with the facial recognition plugin. If you have a lot of pictures on your sd card after the upgrade it may take a little longer.
In a few hours you will be fine.

Some say that is related to SD card reading, sould come to normal after a few hours using the phone.
I had the same but in the next morning (8 hours after) It was fine.
EDIT: I can recommend also the jit mod (only step2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829660

hmmm thats strange, try reflashing?

yes it was indeed laggy for few days....but aft few days and aft installing JIT i think it runs much better than desire

I had the same thing every operation on the phone was laggy and i mean really laggy...i did the update again and i also (with the help of this very forum), removed some apps (after rooting of course) like timescape etc and i also downloaded minfree manager and changed some values in it and now my phone is smoother than ever before!
Thread for the minfree manager http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834044
Tips on what apps do delete if you need it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826491

I am new to android is the Arc meant to be so laggy and buggy??

My Arc keeps crashing asking me to force close apps and the homescreen it lags like hell and it is getting worst all the time so bad that even opening my texts takes a couple more than 10 seconds... (I do have around 2000 texts though)
Unlocking the screen is laggy scrolling on threw the 5 homescreens is laggy...
Sync turned off.
No timespace widget.
Even after removing all widgets to test it it was laggy
I used advanced task killer to kill all the apps to try the quadrant test
and I only got 850-950 MAX!!
Compared to youtube videos that seem to get almost double scores why is my
Arc is slow is it faulty?
Is it because I only have 40mb of phone memory and about 500mb sd card memory left?
Will I just have to flash my phone and does that mean I will need to flash every 2 weeks???

I think you have installed some applications which caysing this problem I had this problem, then i flashed my phone again & installed apps again (didn't restore).. But i didn't installed all apps at once, i spent time & installed 2, 3 apps everyday to check if the app would make phone laggy or slow. Since then my phone is working awesome, my 16GB memory card is almost full, 400 MB internal memory is full (After root i have removed many useless system apps)... I have more than 4000 sms & there is no lag or slowness Quadrant score is 1650

the only time i experienced lag was with adw launcher and no fc's yet, other than that the phone has been fast - then again i don't have as many apps or data on my phone as you. one thing i did notice is that my lcd's touch sensitivity seems to be lower than other arc's, maybe a defect, but it's pretty maddening in addition to all the reboots i've been having. i've been reading about others that have issues with the battery staying in place and like me, the random reboots, this is my first android phone, so not sure if these things are normal or if it just the arc.

It's definitely apps.
Mine is superfast...

Apps and possibly task killing the wrong things.. you need to make sure that if you're going to use a task killer, you really shouldn't us it on Auto.. and you should make sure to IGNORE anything that is a system task, or anything which persistently restarts.. killing those only wastes battery.

Android isnt exactly the most stable os out their but if you know about the os and know its ins and outs it can not only be the fastest but the best os out there.
My recommendation is look up articles about using and optimizing the os, trust me it will do you a ton of good.

Hi,
It seams that sometimes Android must be reflashed on a Device, especially on Tmobile Devices it will fix most of the problems.
Another tip: Uninstall the update of gmaps and reinstall it, on my device it blocks login to gmail and gtalk from one day to another! -.-
Greetings
Alef

Nope the ARC does not Lag very often and i think its ur device's memory thats giving you the trouble along with that huge pile of messages .... or the Corrupt software that might have crept in ...
My advice would be to flash ur ARC ASAP and limit that 2000+ messages and u will see a difference. Avoid putting too many apps as well.
Arc is a Size Zero Lady ... Don't burden it with Heavy Foodstufff ...
Might create Digestion problems. Keep it Light and it'll stay FIT.

solidkevin said:
Android isnt exactly the most stable os out their but if you know about the os and know its ins and outs it can not only be the fastest but the best os out there.
My recommendation is look up articles about using and optimizing the os, trust me it will do you a ton of good.
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What do you mean "isn't the most stable"? I've been able to keep my phone on for weeks without a reboot. Seems stable enough to me.

Ok turns out I had 110 apps I deleted al the heavy ones and am down to 60 now!! My phone now got 1200 on quadrant. I dont kill any system ups or have an auto task killer set up I just kill uneeded apps before I run benchmarks?
Plus I noticed I have some orange apps that keep coming up even though I never used them... I might have to debrand and try again but my phobe is much much more stable now thanks!!
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chances are it wasn't the number of apps you had which was causing the problem, but that one of them (or possible several of them!) which you deleted were badly written and hogging the processor when they should have been sitting quietly in the background..

Orange is well known for screwing devices with bloatware also.

Wow!!
That's a lot of apps you've installed and most likely loads of them are badly written like iceman said; I installed a file browser on mine not long after getting the phone which would pause the whole system for up to a minute, plus battery was highly drained.
I guess this is result of massively varied hardware for one mobile OS. (Plus bad programming)

Help me to get rid of the lag

hello,
i'm getting crazy with this annoying micro stuttering and occasional lagging. it's happening everywhere - home screens, app drawer, settings, apps like xda and tapatalk. it's not major, but it's enough to be seen and to drive me nuts. i tried stock KK, Cloudy stock 2.5 and Cloudy G3. i also tried several kernels - stock, bruce Kernel and Dorimanx. i also tried tons of different settings for cpu governor and hotplugging; i tried the lag mod which have to remove the scrolling lag - it seams that nothing is helping. i tried with and without Greenify (to avoid a lot of resident apps), i also tried both Dalvik and Art - nothing. the slight lag is there - and it's just that - slight stutter, few frames dropped - enough to make you think that some setting will kill it finally. but no matter what i try, that slight lag and stutter is still there. can you give me some suggestions - i'm coming from Galaxy S3, which i used with Beanstalk rom - i experienced 0 lag and stutter and i cannot believe that i see that in a phone like the G2, given the powerful processor and the 2 gb of ram.
please help me not to get insane with that phone

d_ave said:
hello,
i'm getting crazy with this annoying micro stuttering and occasional lagging. it's happening everywhere - home screens, app drawer, settings, apps like xda and tapatalk. it's not major, but it's enough to be seen and to drive me nuts. i tried stock KK, Cloudy stock 2.5 and Cloudy G3. i also tried several kernels - stock, bruce Kernel and Dorimanx. i also tried tons of different settings for cpu governor and hotplugging; i tried the lag mod which have to remove the scrolling lag - it seams that nothing is helping. i tried with and without Greenify (to avoid a lot of resident apps), i also tried both Dalvik and Art - nothing. the slight lag is there - and it's just that - slight stutter, few frames dropped - enough to make you think that some setting will kill it finally. but no matter what i try, that slight lag and stutter is still there. can you give me some suggestions - i'm coming from Galaxy S3, which i used with Beanstalk rom - i experienced 0 lag and stutter and i cannot believe that i see that in a phone like the G2, given the powerful processor and the 2 gb of ram.
please help me not to get insane with that phone
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I've only got 550mb of ram free and my phones flying. Not even a little bit of lag. But for the first week or so after re flashing the stock Rom I did get all that lag you were describing. Even after I debloated, flashed Bruce's and did every other mod you can think of. It ended up going away on it's own after a while. Maybe you just need to stick with one setup and let your phone settle.
You can use beanstalk on the g2 as well, if you were interested in going that route again.

I have the same issue. In games it lags and stutters just enough to put you off the game. I have noticed some videos do this as well like youtube. I am still testing this but I am reluctant to spend any time on it as it has a clear issue when other lower spec'd phones run the same games fine. Basic games as well. It is subtle, but the stutter is there. On some games it's can even be a full 1 or 2 second complete lag and game halt. I tried the CPU throttle option in hidden menus and this did nothing.
Can this be hardware problem? I phone LG and the support agent was extremely unhelpful. He said that it would be sent for repair and they will not play games, only flash it and run a test. I'm concerned this will be a classic case of "there was no fault found" and it will be a complete saga for ages. I already had this before with a different phone (different problem) and I'm fed up with phone problems.
Mine is from Vodafone UK store bought. I am tempted to try stock UK firmware to see if this fixes. Shouldn't have to though.... I also might end up trying a custom ROM to see if it goes away. I absolutely love the phone otherwise. I just want it to work.
PS: It runs benchmarks fine with high scores.

Really Slow

Am I the only one experience problems with the phone being slow after few hours of usage? I use it for SNapchat, Facebook and Instagram. Nothing else, and it takes minutes to load the apps. I have contacted Nokia Support and they won't help. So I was hoping if a happy soul would be helpful and help answering my question!
EDIT! Huge thanks to Lincoln357 for a temp fix until Android 9 is released!
Hey guys,
I was very annoyed with Nokia 5 performance, contacted the support and they told me that all of that will be fixed in the next big update (Android 9, Q1 2019), so I poked around like I usually do and managed to speed up my phone significantly. This is what I did: first, enable developer settings, dial down animations to 0.5x or even off, then enable GPU rendering as well as tether hardware acceleration, set 4 processes in the background and voila! Phone is much much faster and more responsive, it almost feels like another device! Try this, you have nothing to lose.

I usually find closing down all of the open apps(Press the menu button to open task manager then swipe the applications to the left) usually helps. Failing that a power off then back on again. At least once a week

Thats weard
My Nokia 5 works perfectly with Android 8 and apps like Snapchat etc.
As I bought it I disabled most of the GoogleApps, like Google Music or Google Mail and most of the time the phone runs very smooth.
The only (small) problem I have is that Android close Snapchat in the background, so it needs a few seconds till I can use the app. But except this, I've never had any problem like you
Maybe you must clear the cache once a week with an app like CCleaner or your internal storage is full and Android have problems to works good
Otherwise go the settings and look what app uses much rescources
I hope that it helped you a bit

shvflika said:
Am I the only one experience problems with the phone being slow after few hours of usage? I use it for SNapchat, Facebook and Instagram. Nothing else, and it takes minutes to load the apps. I have contacted Nokia Support and they won't help. So I was hoping if a happy soul would be helpful and help answering my question!
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2 options: roll back to Nougat or restart your phone every day or two. I found that when you get used to restarting, it's not that bad. Before going to sleep set alarm clock and just restart the damned thing. Or in the morning while having a coffee or getting dressed. Every day the phone is like new. And RAM is cleaned up, so it can store more apps (that works I believe with all the phones) (Nokia 5 is capable of holding 15+ apps in the background for a full day after restart and like 4-5 after 2 days).

Yeah, here too. When I got the phone it was running Nougat 7.1.2 and updated same evening to Oreo. I haven't got a chance to see how it worked on Nougat but now phone is slow, laggy, sometimes unresponsive etc. I also contacted Nokia support but there's no help from them. My kid has Ulefone S7 with MTK CPU and 2 gigs of ram and that phone is lightning fast compared to mine, which is absurd, it even has better Antutu score. Fact is that Oreo for Nokia 5 isn't polished enough and makes the phone slow and Nokia itself won't do anything about it yet.

Uninstall Facebook, wipe cache
shvflika said:
Am I the only one experience problems with the phone being slow after few hours of usage? I use it for SNapchat, Facebook and Instagram. Nothing else, and it takes minutes to load the apps. I have contacted Nokia Support and they won't help. So I was hoping if a happy soul would be helpful and help answering my question!
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I had the same problem after updating Nokia 5 to Android 8.1. This is how I fixed it:
1. Uninstall Facebook and Instagram - they are notorious resource hogs
2. Wipe cache partition (no need for factory reset)

Hey guys,
I was very annoyed with Nokia 5 performance, contacted the support and they told me that all of that will be fixed in the next big update (Android 9, Q1 2019), so I poked around like I usually do and managed to speed up my phone significantly. This is what I did: first, enable developer settings, dial down animations to 0.5x or even off, then enable GPU rendering as well as tether hardware acceleration, set 4 processes in the background and voila! Phone is much much faster and more responsive, it almost feels like another device! Try this, you have nothing to lose.

Lincoln357 said:
Hey guys,
I was very annoyed with Nokia 5 performance, contacted the support and they told me that all of that will be fixed in the next big update (Android 9, Q1 2019), so I poked around like I usually do and managed to speed up my phone significantly. This is what I did: first, enable developer settings, dial down animations to 0.5x or even off, then enable GPU rendering as well as tether hardware acceleration, set 4 processes in the background and voila! Phone is much much faster and more responsive, it almost feels like another device! Try this, you have nothing to lose.
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Doesn't work for me. I've tried before to tweak Nokia 5, no avail!
Now i can even FREEZE the System with google Earth!!! Just like i did in my previous NOKIA 5. You just have to browse on GE, jumping from site to site, and eventually, Nokia 5 will crack! This show up massive problems with, maybe memory, I/O... i don't really know, but this hardware has severe faults in it...

Lincoln357 said:
Hey guys,
set 4 processes in the background and voila! Phone is much much faster and more responsive, it almost feels like another device! Try this, you have nothing to lose.
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But 4 processes aren't much...?
I think that the system would kill almost every app in the background... The phone should be faster, but the apps need more time to start

Lincoln357 said:
Hey guys,
I was very annoyed with Nokia 5 performance, contacted the support and they told me that all of that will be fixed in the next big update (Android 9, Q1 2019), so I poked around like I usually do and managed to speed up my phone significantly. This is what I did: first, enable developer settings, dial down animations to 0.5x or even off, then enable GPU rendering as well as tether hardware acceleration, set 4 processes in the background and voila! Phone is much much faster and more responsive, it almost feels like another device! Try this, you have nothing to lose.
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Holy s***, that actually worked! Thanks for the temporary fix! I'm also hyped for Android 9 haha.

shvflika said:
Holy s***, that actually worked! Thanks for the temporary fix! I'm also hyped for Android 9 haha.
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Did not work for me.
The best thing that worked for me was to install apps to manage the apps that BOOT up with the phone... even though i don't understand that logic, because after using ALL in ONE TOOLBOX, and disabling all the APPS, and enabling them again, i had then fewer apps on the list... I don't fully understand this mechanism...
Still, i'm going nuts with my SECOND NOKIA 5!
It's performance is problematic, i can crash it in a few minutes with apps like Google Earth, etc. Using this phone is a real PAIN: https : //community.phones.nokia.com/support/discu*ssions/topics/7000022723
Can you please tell me what's the SPEED of the INTERNAL MEMORY (write speed) that you are getting? I'm having a discussion here, and someone says that there is NOT possible that a MEMORY CARD could have better performance than the internal memory, BUT IT DOES! In both my NOKIA 5 (one i returned, the other... still problematic!)
I've used https : //play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co*m.a1dev.sdbench
and https : //play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co*m.andromeda.androbench2
Results are consistent!
BOTH internal memory and CARD have 50 to 60Mb/s WRITE SPEED! This is NONSENSE! :\
Any other phone even with unknown chinese brands have MUCH higher internal memory WRITE speed...

This solution worked beautifully for me especially after i did a factory reset aswell. Also got a expansion card and installing most of the apps on it. Seems to be the OS quite a bit if the crappy internal memory card isn't too full

After much trouble I decided to switch to Xiaomi and I didn't regret it! The phone with the same amount of ram and quad core newer CPU works much faster than Nokia 5. Games are loading faster, there's no lag at all, everything is pretty much better. Couldn't wait for Android 9 to see if it would speed up the phone and Nokia support didn't help me at all. This phone is even a bit cheaper than Nokia was 4 months ago. My problems are solved.

Android 10 stable UI lag

Hi,
I've noticed a UI lag when switching between apps or transitioning from an open app to home screen. This didn't happen in the Android 10 beta rom. Anybody have the same issue? I clean flashed the stable android 10.

I can confirm this issue in the stable release. But I would like to add that this lag was already in the beta release and is in my testing not app specific. I would clear the cache and make a reboot.

Go into developer options and disable the three animation types. Everything runs MUCH faster with them off.

Floridaplur said:
Go into developer options and disable the three animation types. Everything runs MUCH faster with them off.
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I have, and while it does suppress animations, it actually feels less polished. And anyway, it does not resolve the UI lag which is really visible when using th app switcher. It's dropping below like 10fps. As if some gfx acceleration was disabled or the phone was completely overwhelmed

Anyone found a fix? I experience the lag every once in a while, though it's prevalent enough to be annoying.

I am having this literally every time i use the alt-tab like feature. Oneplus managed to **** up the one thing (butter smooth) Google has been bragging about for several versions ???

A simple fix would be toh format device once, as I have clean flashed and I don't face any lags

Dissable ram boost in system settings

fress said:
Dissable ram boost in system settings
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I'm having random lag too. I'l try to disable RAM boost and is if it helps.

fress said:
Dissable ram boost in system settings
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doesn't change a thing. (and am wondering it would. This feature is supposed to make smoothness (even) better, not worse)

Turn off auto brightness .. maybe it can help

I have been reading up on the A10 stable release posts and I saw a lot of people mentioning the issue that you are talking about here.
Many of them suggested a full format. So basically setting up your device as a new device.
I cannot confirm if this works for everyone but a lot of people are saying that after a fresh install they are not facing any issues.
All of the points mentioned above are just what I read from xda and op forum posts. I personally have not made the switch yet and probably wont be doing so soon.

Hey guys. I encountered the same problem on my Nokia 9. Not quite sure why this error doesn't get noticed by more people.
I think I fixed it for me though.
In my case it seemed that the OLED always on screen (which shows notifications and the time) was the problem in my case. It would always show that there are notifications even if there weren't any and that started adding up. So while the rest of my phone ran buttery smooth, the notification bar and lockscreen began looking like a Diashow. 2-5 fps sometimes. What I think is happening is that all these notifications are buggy and the always on screen can't get rid of them.
So my fix was turning that off and then restarting my phone. Since that everything runs smooth again.
If there is another thread I should post this to please tell me but I only found this one.
Hope it helped.

maxsak said:
Hey guys. I encountered the same problem on my Nokia 9. Not quite sure why this error doesn't get noticed by more people.
I think I fixed it for me though.
In my case it seemed that the OLED always on screen (which shows notifications and the time) was the problem in my case. It would always show that there are notifications even if there weren't any and that started adding up. So while the rest of my phone ran buttery smooth, the notification bar and lockscreen began looking like a Diashow. 2-5 fps sometimes. What I think is happening is that all these notifications are buggy and the always on screen can't get rid of them.
So my fix was turning that off and then restarting my phone. Since that everything runs smooth again.
If there is another thread I should post this to please tell me but I only found this one.
Hope it helped.
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I think the issue is just : it's a ****show of awful coding, optimisation and non-existent testing. If manufacturers' programmers put in half the effort debugging their software we as "powerusers" at xda/reddit/... put twisting our brains in and out trying find correlating explanations and workarounds as to why we get UI lags or other absurd bugs (like 5GHz wifi not working anymore) on the 10th ****ing iteration of Android, we wouldn't have all of this. It all boils down to the general idea that because it is consumer grade product, quality check is just a non-subject. Apparent quality is just enough at product launch, and further updates (if they do get round to releasing them) can brake everything without manufacturers being held accountable.

The update showed up on my phone on the 25th, but, I'm NOT updating. 9 is too damn stable for me, & I don't see any "features" in 10 that will benefit me.

After reading all this i am not going to update to 10. Yet happy with 9.17.
Tmob unbranded dual sim op6t.

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I have the OnePlus 6, and have similar issues, that include swapping apps being slow, but not just the swapping of apps, any app that has typing in it, seems to DIE when I start typing. Maybe this is a google keyboard issue or something? I notice the issue most in the Microsoft Teams mobile app. It also tends to only happen when at least 2 apps are open, if it's on it's own, it seems to do fine.
This might just be coincidence but I went into dev settings and turned on "strict mode" and now I can't get it to lag like it previously did.
I just looked at my running services (dev options > running services) and saw that my Bluetooth was using 2.2GB of ram, and youtube was 1.7GB of that. I toggled bluetooth off, then back on and it reset this. I have not modified the strict mode setting above... still have not had any lag, will update this thread if I do get more lag.

MightySashiman said:
I think the issue is just : it's a ****show of awful coding, optimisation and non-existent testing. If manufacturers' programmers put in half the effort debugging their software we as "powerusers" at xda/reddit/... put twisting our brains in and out trying find correlating explanations and workarounds as to why we get UI lags or other absurd bugs (like 5GHz wifi not working anymore) on the 10th ****ing iteration of Android, we wouldn't have all of this. It all boils down to the general idea that because it is consumer grade product, quality check is just a non-subject. Apparent quality is just enough at product launch, and further updates (if they do get round to releasing them) can brake everything without manufacturers being held accountable.
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Lagging issue I've seen many reporting in xda on the stock rom OOS 10.3.0. But 5GHz is working as expected. I can confirm it because I'm using 5GHz WiFI now and then

adondriel said:
I have the OnePlus 6, and have similar issues, that include swapping apps being slow, but not just the swapping of apps, any app that has typing in it, seems to DIE when I start typing. Maybe this is a google keyboard issue or something? I notice the issue most in the Microsoft Teams mobile app. It also tends to only happen when at least 2 apps are open, if it's on it's own, it seems to do fine.
This might just be coincidence but I went into dev settings and turned on "strict mode" and now I can't get it to lag like it previously did.
I just looked at my running services (dev options > running services) and saw that my Bluetooth was using 2.2GB of ram, and youtube was 1.7GB of that. I toggled bluetooth off, then back on and it reset this. I have not modified the strict mode setting above... still have not had any lag, will update this thread if I do get more lag.
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After a night/day of normal testing with this, where I would normally have issues, I have not had and of the lag I mentioned above. This seems to have fixed some things. So, I would suggest that you first check to see what running processes are using all the ram, and then turn on strict mode in dev settings, if that doesn't solve your issues. I also have Ram Boost option turned off.

I experience the FPS drop quite often after the update. It's especially noticable when scrolling pages, switching between apps, pulling down the upper panel. The slowness seems to disappear temporarily after closing all apps. But I can't say that some particular app causes the lag.
UPD: A simple test to recreate the problem. I push the square button to switch between apps. Start swiping finger left-right and watch the animation smoothness. After 5-10 seconds comes the wave of low FPS, which lasts for a couple of seconds. Then the process repeats. The slowness doesn't seem to depend on some exact apps that are open.
UPD2: Well, I've just found out that the problem isn't constant throughout the day. There must be some connection to applications running in the background or something like this.