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So all you 10.1 owners, now the nexus 7 is out in 2 weeks are you going to sell your 10.1 for one or keep it?
I'm seriously thinking of selling mine for a nexus 7.. and can't wait to get my hands on a nexus Q
Nick
Keeping my 10.1
Never been a fan of the smaller tabs, my GNEX fills that void nicely. Waiting for the new 10.1 Note.
keeping mine, 7 inch is a bit on the small side
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So all you 10.1 owners, now the nexus 7 is out in 2 weeks are you going to sell your 10.1 for one or keep it?
I'm seriously thinking of selling mine for a nexus 7.. and can't wait to get my hands on a nexus Q
Nick
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I for one find comparing 10" screen tablets with 7" ones simply absurd..
You either need a 10" screen or a 7" one.
I myself think that 10" is the bare minimum size for a "general purpose" tablet's display, ideally I would want a bigger one if it wasn't heavier and had the same battery runtime. 7" is good only as an e-book reader.
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I for one find comparing 10" screen tablets with 7" ones simply absurd..
You either need a 10" screen or a 7" one.
I myself think that 10" is the bare minimum size for a "general purpose" tablet's display, ideally I would want a bigger one if it wasn't heavier and had the same battery runtime. 7" is good only as an e-book reader.
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xdapao3 said:
I for one find comparing 10" screen tablets with 7" ones simply absurd..
You either need a 10" screen or a 7" one.
I myself think that 10" is the bare minimum size for a "general purpose" tablet's display, ideally I would want a bigger one if it wasn't heavier and had the same battery runtime. 7" is good only as an e-book reader.
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keep it
Tab 10.1 is a great device.
Keeping it because I really do want a 10" screen.... And ordered a Nexus 7 too. I'm not sure about the 7" size, in some ways it will bother me for sure, but in other ways it may turn out to be more useful, lighter, more pocketable, I guess I will find out in a few weeks. My tab 10.1 has gotten super laggy, while my galaxy nexus has worked really, really, really well, so for a couple of hundred, I'm willing to try something new. I know I could flash a custom rom, maybe one of these days I will, but I need the camera to function for video calls, so I haven't looked into it much.
Personally I'll keep my tablet until it dies.
Maybe selling mine. The Tab is awesome and there's no doubt the xda peeps will get Jelly bean on it soon. But the Nexus 7 format factor is just right for me. Like the Kindle Fire I always wanted.
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Soon going to be a owner of both. Once i get the nexus I'll let you know. People in the 7 inch forums keep saying you don't know what the 7 inch is for until you use it so i have high hopes.
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Count me in on getting both. I've had my GT10 for about 9 months now, but during that time I had a Nook Color, and just in the last three weeks I got a Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus. Both are great devices, and both are now on craigslist.
I agree with the post above that comparing 7" and 10" tablets is ridiculous. They serve different purposes. But I will point out that many people are making the same point that they don't need a 7" device because it's halfway between a phone and a 10". That's silly and based on the fact that 10" has become a standard for tablets simply because that was the screens that the factories could build. But think about it: 7" is the most obvious size for a truly portable tablet: It fits in a pocket. 10" is not actually that great a size. It's too small for productivity and too large to take with you without a bag (unless you hold it in your hand the whole time). If I could have my way, I'd have a 3.5-4" phone, a 7" tablet (though I'd love to have less bezel since you can hold it in one hand with just the edges), and a 12-15" tablet with a docking station for productivity.
Don't get me wrong; I love my GT10, but once bigger tablets become the norm I'll gladly drop it (and my laptop) in favor of a true laptop replacement. One device for communication; one for entertainment, and one for productivity (and probably entertainment too!).
That's why both markets exist; whereas some would rather have the smaller size that it's pocketable others such as myself have no problems carrying the larger tablets in hand wherever we go.
I'm strongly considering getting one simply for the fact that it has ICS on it at a dirt cheap price, but I still see no permanent replacement for my Verizon LTE GT 10.1. Until there is another 10 inch tablet with ICS on it and a faster processor on Verizon LTE I'm sticking with my tab and its dated 3.2 OS.
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Like Natalie Imbruglia, I'm torn. I went from the original Galaxy Tab 7" to the 10.1" and thought I could never go back to a 7" tablet after that, but it is a really nice bit of kit.
Two phrases spring to mind. Horses for courses, and swings and roundabouts.
I have just bought the 16gb nexus 7. I plan to use it in conjunction with my tab 10.1. Like for college I will use the 10.1 to type down notes as my hand writing is appalling but I can touch type fast on the tablet. I will also use the 10.1 for college text books (there all free on the college web site) which need a big screen. I will then use the nexus 7 for more gaming, lite reading and lite video watching. As some games just look better on a bigger than the 4.8inch screen on my s3, but playing games on the tab 10.1 is uncomfortable as it is too big for it, not to mention the 10.1's crappy GPU Also, I used the archos 70it for a year, which is a 7 inch tab, so I do like the 7 inch form factor although I do like the 10.1 inch screen as well
Well, for those saying they are going to carry it around: why don't you get a phone-enabled 7" tablet and carry only one device then?
I would do it myself and in fact I tried for a couple of days the original Galaxy Tab 7" but it was unfortunately just a tad too big for the fanny packs I always use... Half an inch smaller and that would have been my "smartphone" (BTW, since 7 months I am the enthusiastic owner of a Galaxy Note and I am hoping that the next iteration will have a bigger screen).
So, I still maintain that 7" tablets are useless but as ebook readers.
Or maybe it's just that I like to keep and carry around as few devices as possible (for example, iPods-like music players are worse than useless, to me, I keep all the music and videos I want on my Note and it also has FM radio and internet radio).
P.S. when I am out and about I use the Note as I would the Galaxy Tab 10.1" at home but of course once at home it's G.Tab only (unless, of course, I am using the phone capabilities or I need some data on the Note). The smaller screen (and that was the case also with the Galaxy Tab 7") is simply too limiting. Even as an ebook reader (one of the main uses I have for the G.Tab) screen real estate is a plus (and that was also one of the main reasons to choose the G.Tab, it was and still is one of the lighest 10" tablets around, possibly THE lighest).
I havent decided just yet. If I do decide to buy one I have a feeling that I would be using the tab 10.1 at home and the n7 while out to read books and browsing the web and what not.
Although if I find myself using the N7 more often then yea ill probably sell the tab 10.1 and at the least it should cover the cost of the tablet.
I'm getting the Nexus 7 and selling my GTab 10.1. I rather have an android tablet that is more open and more quick to get upgrades. I have an ipad 3rd gen, so I don't need another large screen tablet.
My old nook color was my intro to tablets but the screen was just too small. Immediately after getting the 10.1 I was never you g back to anything smaller.
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My old nook color was my intro to tablets but the screen was just too small. Immediately after getting the 10.1 I was never you g back to anything smaller.
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Same here. My nook color has been collecting dust for the past year. Works fine as an e-reader but feels cramped for web browsing.
Media playback on a 7-inch tablet would be fine for me though but here again with the lack of microSD and HDMI support the Nexus 7 falls short of what's needed. Sacrifices have to be made for the price point . . obviously the Nexus 7 is meant to compete with the nook tablet and kindle fire. It does well there with the quad core processor and higher resolution screen. Too bad . . I'd pay a bit more to get a microSD card slot in that thing (or be willing to pay $250 for the 8gb model w/ uSD).
Reverend Kyle here...
I will be doing a full comparison video on the Amazon 7" Kindle Fire HD versus the Google Nexus 7 Tablet once mine arrives (Hopefully on the 14th). Some of you may already be familiar with my previous work with other tablets.
I am opening up the floor to you. What sort of things would you like me to compare?
Obvious ones:
-Physical appearance and dimensions
-Camera performance
-Benchmarks (Please specify which Benchmarks you prefer)
-Audio
-WIFI performance
I truly believe that this will be an interesting comparison between these two tablets. We may have an interesting battle here.
I look forward doing videos on this device as the development starts to take shape.
Pocketability - See how many types of (oversized) pockets either can fit into. At 5.4" width, the KF HD 7 doesn't look to fit into any AFAIK. That would substantially undercut its portability if it needs a bag/purse.
Netflix or Prime HD video - See how either fares with paid HD video content, and the quality. It is called the KF HD, after all.
Wifi - Signal level isn't a good indicator of performance. More effective is a simple distance (w/ obstructions) test: while streaming a HD video (preferably the same source), walk away from the router until video stream breaks up.
Location-based services, incl mapping - See if KF HD uses wifi geolocation to compensate for lack of GPS, and how well it fares. Compare Amazon's mapping service (if any) to Goog's.
App selections of Amazon vs Google's stores.
Can you confirm the performance of the Kindle Fire HD compared to Nexus 7? Gizmodo had stated in their review that the Kindle Fire HD is not as responsive as Nexus 7.
Review from Gizmodo: http://gizmodo.com/5941095/kindle-fire-hd-hands-on-pretty-impressivefor-the-price
Aside from that, form factor would be a big one. The KF HD has what seems like a big bezel.
Which screen is better would be a big one.
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Can you confirm the performance of the Kindle Fire HD compared to Nexus 7? Gizmodo had stated in their review that the Kindle Fire HD is not as responsive as Nexus 7.
Review from Gizmodo: http://gizmodo.com/5941095/kindle-fire-hd-hands-on-pretty-impressivefor-the-price
Aside from that, form factor would be a big one. The KF HD has what seems like a big bezel.
Which screen is better would be a big one.
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Understandable, there is no way any ICS devices will be as responsive as JellyBean, plus the heavily modded with the amazon interface on the KFhd. But the review made is sound so horrible. Lol. However, the reviewer did say that once you've experience JB you will never find anything lower than that satisfactory, so i think it is not that bad.
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Nexus 7 wins
i feel Nexus 7 wins in portability and design.
Actually I would also like to see if rooted the Kindle Fire HD would beat the Nexus 7 in terms of apps and usability outside the Amazon region, because basically the Kindle is locked inside an Amazon box.
Also people does Kindle Fire HD and Nexus 7 both have flash support?
I say leave rooting OUT of the comparison.
Flash isn't supported on the Nexus 7 BUT I got it to work on about 90% of the videos I tried. The KFHD? Time will tell I guess unless it has been already confirmed that Flash is supported and works.
For the out-of-the-box experience I can't imagine the Kindle Fire HD winning. My girlfriend has the original Kindle Fire, and basically only uses it for reading because she can't use any of her Android apps purchased for her older tablet. And keep in mind that your average person isn't going to want to deal with rooting/maintaining a rooted device (XDA users are certainly not your average Android user). The Kindle Fire HD will certainly be a step up, but it's still primarily a portal for using Amazon-purchased content. It's not truly an Android tablet (unless you root it, assuming an exploit will even be found for the HD).
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And keep in mind that your average person isn't going to want to deal with rooting/maintaining a rooted device (XDA users are certainly not your average Android user).
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Not necessarily. When I bought a Kindle Fire for my wife, I had no intention of modifying the stock software in any way. It was only out of necessity that I even found XDA in the first place, as she wanted me to look for a way to change the wallpapers. At the time, I knew nothing about Android or rooting, but without that knowledge we would be locked into Amazon's uncostomizable buggy software. Of course we could have accepted it as it was, if there were no other options...
Most people want to get the most out of their money, and the stock Amazon software is very generic as far as tablets go. It does have some great proprietary features for people looking for an e-reader and not much else, but most of the people that buy a Kindle Fire want more than that. This is why you see people in these forums of all ages and all levels of technical experience, trying to root their KFs...Amazon really hasn't given them much choice.
And just so you know, we now have three, fully modifed KFs running different ROMs and no stock software in any of them.
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I just sold nexus 7 to buy 8.9 kindle fire only because my main purpose for the tablet is to watch movies. The 8.9 inch has one the best displays out now and 300 bucks. You don't want to spend three hundred dollars on a tablet I would recommend nexus 7. nexus seven is light weight and can do all the stuff kindle fire can do and then some. I owned 8 gig model I am not new to rooting and installing roms with nexus 7 toolkit the beginner could root this tab and unlock it. The 8 gig 200 dollar model and otg cable and you have much storage as you want. Hands down nexus 7 best 7 inch hd.
More concerned about build quality above anything else. My old Kingle Fire was forged from a brick it felt like, could really handle some bumps and bruises. Heard the Nexus 7 just sucks when it comes to build quality.
Nexus 7 all the way. Amazing dev support will get android updates for a while and a tegra processor, so you can get THD games.
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I'd like to see a comparison of color quality. The Nexus 7 is a bit subpar here, greens and yellows look a bit pastel and a slight washed out look. And the Tegra 3 causes an over exposed look after playing many videos (easily fixed once rooted).
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/11/3317586/kindle-fire-hd-review-7-inch
"The 7-inch, 1280 x 800 display on the Fire HD is fantastic. The IPS, LCD screen looks better than probably any other tablet display I've seen, save for the new iPad. While the pixel density is the same for both the Nexus 7 and the Fire HD (216 compared to the iPad's 264), the Fire blows away the Nexus in terms of color richness, black levels, and general brightness."
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/11/3317586/kindle-fire-hd-review-7-inch
"The 7-inch, 1280 x 800 display on the Fire HD is fantastic. The IPS, LCD screen looks better than probably any other tablet display I've seen, save for the new iPad. While the pixel density is the same for both the Nexus 7 and the Fire HD (216 compared to the iPad's 264), the Fire blows away the Nexus in terms of color richness, black levels, and general brightness."
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Yeah, I'm hoping the more this gets highlighted and mentioned, the more embarrassed Google should be and will hopefully apply a software update for the issue (and hopefully it's something that can be fixed with an update).
If you must have a tablet now and intend to root it, get the Nexus 7. It's a sure thing. Don't be put off by the people whining about defects; nobody posts when their tablet is working correctly.
If you can tolerate Amazon's lock-in, get the Fire HD.
If you don't need a tablet right now and do want root, then wait. Buying just released hardware expecting root and other hacks out of the gate is dumb.
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More concerned about build quality above anything else. My old Kingle Fire was forged from a brick it felt like, could really handle some bumps and bruises. Heard the Nexus 7 just sucks when it comes to build quality.
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for build quality, i could easily assume that the kindle fire hd would have better build quality. my nexus 7 has a few problems in the build quality. there are threads in the fourms about the nexus 7 and build quality. when the 8.9 inch one comes out i am definitely selling nexus the 7 and getting the new kindle fire.
I have ordered a Fire HD because despite the Nexus 7 specs, I have personal experience of the build quality issues. I also want decent speakers.
Compared to apple.... Lets face it a 7" HD tablet for a little more money than a new Ipod nano... what a bargain !
Nexus 7 best 7 inch tab out there gonna get fire get the 8.9. The nexus is lighter, faster, more open and i had defected nexus 7 i got replacement in a week and haven't had an issue since. Or might wanna wait check out the surface tablet it might be 200 dollars.
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/amazon-kindle-fire-hdx/4505-3126_7-35828167.html
It looks like Amazon has thrown down the gauntlet for this holiday season.
With the advent of this news, how do you think Google/Asus is going to respond with the new Nexus 10?
The one big advantage that the Nexus 10 had over its competition was its 2560x1600 screen. Now that the competition has caught up, the Nexus 10 is going to need another selling point to stay on top.
Is it possible the only way to stay competitive would be to release a Nexus 10 for $350?
And there's no way the new Nexus 10 won't be releasing without a Snapdragon 800 or a Tegra 4. Maybe Asus can stay on top if they offer 3 GB of RAM?
Don't forget that the Nexus 10 also has the whole "it's not a Kindle" thing going for it, too. I'm sure they're out there but I haven't used a tablet yet that feels as fast as my N10, so an S800 or Tegra4 device would have to blow my socks off to convince me to upgrade.
kindle hdx 7" 1920x1200, snapdragon 800, 2gb ram for $229, the same price as nexus 7 v2 but much better cpu and gpu, no rear camera though. If someone could make a cyanogenmod rom for that it would be a beast!
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kindle hdx 7" 1920x1200, snapdragon 800, 2gb ram for $229, the same price as nexus 7 v2 but much better cpu and gpu, no rear camera though. If someone could make a cyanogenmod rom for that it would be a beast!
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Haha yeah, the Nexus 7v2 had a short run as the best small 7 inch tablet, but now the Kindle Fire HDX 7 is a better deal with the SD 800. Same PPI, and maybe better speakers, although I've never heard the Kindle Fire HD's speakers in person so I can't judge.
Flashing Jelly Bean onto Kindle Fires has never been difficult. The HDX 7 and HDX 8.9 are on my fantasy shopping lists if Google doesn't come out with a compelling Nexus 10.
There is always the uncertainty about the bootloader of the new Kindle. If it is easily unlocked, I see no reason not to get the new Kindles, but if the bootloader cannot be unlocked, who wants to be stuck with the Amazon OS.
If you don't mind spending money on your apps all over again.
Fire OS is designed to be completely Amazon inclusive. Their store and services only.
We'll have to see what ROM's become available. Needless to say, no direct Google releases for these ones.
Still compelling though
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And there's no way the new Nexus 10 won't be releasing without a Snapdragon 800 or a Tegra 4. Maybe Asus can stay on top if they offer 3 GB of RAM?
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What makes you think there will be a new Nexus 10 this Christmas season? I dont think there will be.
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What makes you think there will be a new Nexus 10 this Christmas season? I dont think there will be.
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It's all the media hype going on at this time. Either it's happening, or as has happened a few times, it's not.
I love how the majority of articles base their premise all on the same single tweet or leaked inventory screen.
But based on what I hear, yeah it's happening at some point.
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What makes you think there will be a new Nexus 10 this Christmas season? I dont think there will be.
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If Google doesn't come out with a new Nexus 10, then there is no reason for anybody to buy the Nexus 10 until it's refreshed, because the competition will be better. The Kindle Fire 8.9 has the same resolution, a Snapdragon 800, and it's only $379. No smart person would buy a Nexus 10 over it.
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If Google doesn't come out with a new Nexus 10, then there is no reason for anybody to buy the Nexus 10 until it's refreshed, because the competition will be better. The Kindle Fire 8.9 has the same resolution, a Snapdragon 800, and it's only $379. No smart person would buy a Nexus 10 over it.
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This!
The HDX 8.9 would be perfect without ther Fire OS.
However, would be nice if both Amazon and Google added sd card slots.
The new kindle HDX from my search proves it's indeed a beast but I just don't like the idea of Amazon taking out the rear camera from the 7inch model. That is too bad for me. I like taking pictures of anything anytime.
Screw Amazon and their bastardization of Android. Its a huge pita getting rid of the bloat on the older Fire HD I bought my wife. Never again.
I'm really concern about power button, it looks quite inconvenient.
Where can i find the 1600p videos for the HDX8.9's display screen
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Where can i find the 1600p videos for the HDX8.9's display screen
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You don't. You enjoy 1600p webpages and kindle books. Its really useful for reading small text.
If you were going to replace your 8, what would you get and why? I ask because I am very disappointed with the 3 whole hours battery time I am now getting and looking to find something better.
I'd probably get the Shield tablet even though the stylus isn't nearly as good. The Shield tablet has pure Android, lots of gaming features (I play plenty of games on my Note 8), SD card slot, front facing speakers, and decent first party accessories. Those things are important to me on a tablet, and I think that's the one I'd get if I was to replace my Note 8.
A Microsoft Surface Pro 3
Because I prefer windows as OS
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Funny. I got my girlfriend a Note 10.1 which she uses to draw commissions and requests. She has found herself using the tablet only for drawing and her laptop only for browsing internet. So I suggested she get a surface pro or a similar windows 8 tablet with the stylus option. My only issue with the surface is that it is pricey but it does aim to eliminate the need of both a laptop and a tablet .
I know I will eventually want to replace the Note 8.0 and I almost did with an Asus Windows 8.1 Transformer tablet but I hesitated due to my history with my android transformer tablet being reaaaaallyyyy bad. Also, I prefer to have a full sized laptop on the go when I'm not near my desktop so I will probably keep the android tablet on me and bring a full laptop whenever I need to use one.
So what I'm trying to say is that if I were to upgrade my Note, I'd probably go with a Shield or another android tablet.
Black, if thats the case why not get the new think pad helix 2. Basically it's a surface pro 3 but done right. Something to think about.
Is nvidia shield tablet worth considering?
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I'd probably get the Shield tablet even though the stylus isn't nearly as good. The Shield tablet has pure Android, lots of gaming features (I play plenty of games on my Note 8), SD card slot, front facing speakers, and decent first party accessories. Those things are important to me on a tablet, and I think that's the one I'd get if I was to replace my Note 8.
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If anyone coming from a Galaxy Note 8 to a nvidia shield tablet could share its experience... I'd like to know about the pen. I mainly use MyScript stylus keyboard for taking notes. I'm considering the shield tablet 32g/LTE to replace both phone and note 8.0.
Regards
I'd want hands on, but I'd probably consider the LTE Shield or an LTE Note 10.1.
I am in the same boat. I really had high hopes for the Nexus nine to be the best tablet and have a good price but that obviously didn't happen
Good answers. I've been looking around and, frankly, can't find anything as good as the 8. And, of course, it's discontinued, so once mine is shot I'll need to go through this again. I like the stylus, the size is just right, fast, good screen quality, and (now that I have replaced the battery) good life on a charge. I carry mine in the small of my back (lots of things fit there!) so a 10-inch is out. I know something bigger-better-faster-red will come out in the future but, for now, I think I'll stick with my 8. Thanks for the perspective, folks! If you find something comparable, let me know!
I would'be gotten a venue pro 8.0 but could not pass up $200 new for the GT-N5110 over a year ago.
right now the Galaxy S note seems to be a good replacement.
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I would'be gotten a venue pro 8.0 but could not pass up $200 new for the GT-N5110 over a year ago.
right now the Galaxy S note seems to be a good replacement.
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There will be Galaxy Note 8.4 in Spring next year (2015).
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There will be Galaxy Note 8.4 in Spring next year (2015).
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That would be awesome! Do you have a source for that?
Hi All,
Terribly confused - am looking to try Android again after years of being iOS, want to get mid range tab, so the 10.1 A looks about right.
But....Whats with all the 2016, 2017, 2018 after the model numbers? Does it matter, is there any difference?
I am looking at a 32GB Black 2016 10.1 Galaxy Tab A, its showing as the 2016 version, will that be ok?
This is terribly confusing :-/
Cheers!
No diff tbh i have 1 and its brill...
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Samsung hasn't updated the Tab A tablets since about 2015, and it shows. Ancient slow CPU. Only 16GB storage. Models other than 10.1 do not even have FHD resolution. You might as well buy Amazon Fire HD/HD 10, at least they're cheap.
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Samsung hasn't updated the Tab A tablets since about 2015, and it shows. Ancient slow CPU. Only 16GB storage. Models other than 10.1 do not even have FHD resolution. You might as well buy Amazon Fire HD/HD 10, at least they're cheap.
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Nice conclusion, but:
http://tabletmonkeys.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-a-8-0-2017-sm-t380-available-in-the-us/
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Nice conclusion, but:
http://tabletmonkeys.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-a-8-0-2017-sm-t380-available-in-the-us/
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Oh I didn't know that Samsung has finally increased the internal storage from 16GB to 32GB. That's basically the only improvement since around mid-2015. However, these tablets still come with ancient A53 CPUs built on 28nm process and no FHD screens except for the 10.1 model (2016), but which strangely does not have stereo speakers in landscape mode. I guess we all must enjoy watching a widescreen video when sound is firing from just one side. It basically remains very low end hardware. I don't know what's Samsung thinking.
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Oh I didn't know that Samsung has finally increased the internal storage from 16GB to 32GB. That's basically the only improvement since around mid-2015. However, these tablets still come with ancient A53 CPUs built on 28nm process and no FHD screens except for the 10.1 model (2016), but which strangely does not have stereo speakers in landscape mode. I guess we all must enjoy watching a widescreen video when sound is firing from just one side. It basically remains very low end hardware. I don't know what's Samsung thinking.
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Tablets don't usually have the same high end specs that phones have. And most people are just browsing the internet/facebook/instagram/etc. They really don't need the top end soc's. Especially when you compare a ~$200 tablet with a phone that is ~$800+. People don't understand how much the display costs.
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Tablets don't usually have the same high end specs that phones have. And most people are just browsing the internet/facebook/instagram/etc. They really don't need the top end soc's. Especially when you compare a ~$200 tablet with a phone that is ~$800+. People don't understand how much the display costs.
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But there is a still serious problem with the progression of the "Tab A" series. Even low-end smartphones for 200USD can have decent specs and performance. I recently picked up an Honor 6X smartphone (under 200USD, at Best Buy), and it has 1080p screen, good camera, and CPU that's built on 16nm process, resulting in great battery life and good performance. The new version, Honor 7X, has even slightly better specs and the same price. On the other hand, The Tab A tablets cost 200USD or more, but most them have only HD (720p screens) and CPU built on ancient 28nm process. Almost no updates to spec since 2015.
If anyone hasn't checked, these days Amazon sells tablets with such specs for under 100 bucks. Such tablets are so mundane that Amazon offers four and six-pack boxes of them. An Amazon tablet with 1080p screen and much better CPU costs about 150USD tops (Fire HD 10). Amazon's software is allegedly crap, but you can install a Google Playstore on it and use it like any android tablet.
My main question is, where is the Samsung Tab A2, A3? Isn't it about time Samsung offers a cheap tablet with modern specs? The astonishing thing is that Apple's iPad 2017 model has MSRP of 320-something, and is often on sale under 300 bucks. There is a rumor that Apple will introduce a 260 dollar iPad this year. And what's going to be Samsung's answer to it? The same Tab A from 2015?
Akopps said:
But there is a still serious problem with the progression of the "Tab A" series. Even low-end smartphones for 200USD can have decent specs and performance. I recently picked up an Honor 6X smartphone (under 200USD, at Best Buy), and it has 1080p screen, good camera, and CPU that's built on 16nm process, resulting in great battery life and good performance. The new version, Honor 7X, has even slightly better specs and the same price. On the other hand, The Tab A tablets cost 200USD or more, but most them have only HD (720p screens) and CPU built on ancient 28nm process. Almost no updates to spec since 2015.
If anyone hasn't checked, these days Amazon sells tablets with such specs for under 100 bucks. Such tablets are so mundane that Amazon offers four and six-pack boxes of them. An Amazon tablet with 1080p screen and much better CPU costs about 150USD tops (Fire HD 10). Amazon's software is allegedly crap, but you can install a Google Playstore on it and use it like any android tablet.
My main question is, where is the Samsung Tab A2, A3? Isn't it about time Samsung offers a cheap tablet with modern specs? The astonishing thing is that Apple's iPad 2017 model has MSRP of 320-something, and is often on sale under 300 bucks. There is a rumor that Apple will introduce a 260 dollar iPad this year. And what's going to be Samsung's answer to it? The same Tab A from 2015?
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OK, we get it....You don't like Samsung tablets. You also just spent the entire first paragraph comparing the tablet to a smartphone. It's still a good solid tablet that will suffice for the majority of tablet owners and will outlive many times over some of those throw away 100 buck tablets.
Tel864 said:
OK, we get it....You don't like Samsung tablets.
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Absolutely not the thesis of my post.
You also just spent the entire first paragraph comparing the tablet to a smartphone.
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It seems like you need to read my previous post again. I have made a comparison to competing tablets. The comparison to smartphones came as an answer to a guy who seemed to imply that I complain that a 200 dollar Tab A tablet is not as good as an 800 dollar smartphone. Well, in response to him, I gave him an example of a 200 dollar smartphone that slaughters ALL Tab A tablets that exist today (well, except the screen size).
It's still a good solid tablet that will suffice for the majority of tablet owners and will outlive many times over some of those throw away 100 buck tablets.
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It's like saying that 2010 iPhone 4 is still great and will serve its owners for many years more. Now, I don't know what qualifies for the definition of a "throw away" tablet, but from your words I guess you think that if a tablet costs 100 bucks it must be throw away? Ok. But how does it make you feel that the Samsung Tab A tablets have specs of a 80USD throwaway Amazon tablet? I mean seriously, you would throw away a cheap Amazon tablet, but you wouldn't throw away a Samsung Tab A tablet even though it has the same hardware specs but costs about two to three times more?
If you would like to see a fair comparison to tablets, how about Lenovo Tab 4 Plus 8/10? 1080p screen, CPU built on a modern process. Price is about the same. Lenovo gives you a 2016-2018 technology. Samsung is selling you a 2014 spec tablet for a ridiculous price. I don't really know why ANYONE today would buy Samsung Tab A when something like Lenovo Tab 4 (same price, but much better specs), Amazon Fire (same specs, but much cheaper), or Huawei Mediapad M3 exist. Hell, like I have ALREADY mentioned before, even Apple's 2017 iPad slaughters the Samsung Tab A tablets.
I think the main question now is, will Samsung eventually update the Tab A series, or will it just sell off the remaining stock and then cancel the brand? I mean seriously, does this question not linger in anyone's mind? The damn thing hasn't been updated, except cosmetically, since about 2015. My conclusion is that Samsung will abandon this line and will only continue with the more expensive Tab S line.
Ive been thinking of buying a Tab A, or any other mid range 10 inch tablet, ive seen this https://www.xda-developers.com/list-unannounced-2018-samsung-galaxy-devices/ gta2xl – Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 2018 has this been released, or is it still to come?
If it has then im guessing there are better tablets to spend my £230 on??
Akopps said:
Absolutely not the thesis of my post.
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Not sure what the thesis of your post is other than you do absolutely not like the Tab A series
Here's a comparison of the tablets you mentioned: _https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8090&idPhone2=8872&idPhone3=8605
The Amazon Fire at 170 EUR is locked down by Amazon, head over to https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development to feel the pain yourself.
The Lenovo Tab 2 Plus clocks in at EUR 50 more than the Tab A 2016.
That makes the Tab A 2016 still the best value/money tablet with broad dev support in 2018, like it or not.
You will be shocked to learn that there are folks running the latest 2018 software on 2013 hardware and it's completely sufficient for their use cases.
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As an owner of Amazon Kindle Fire, and after reading Akopps's initial reply to this thread, I felt obligated to point out the glaringly obvious - it would be ridiculously foolish to buy an Amazon tablet as an alternative to a Samsung tablet - you cannot install Google Play Store, therefore you cannot install many apps without circumventing Amazon's setup.
A strange comment from a "Senior" forum member ?#!*??