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7" Kindle Fire HD vs Nexus 7 - Suggestions?

Reverend Kyle here...
I will be doing a full comparison video on the Amazon 7" Kindle Fire HD versus the Google Nexus 7 Tablet once mine arrives (Hopefully on the 14th). Some of you may already be familiar with my previous work with other tablets.
I am opening up the floor to you. What sort of things would you like me to compare?
Obvious ones:
-Physical appearance and dimensions
-Camera performance
-Benchmarks (Please specify which Benchmarks you prefer)
-Audio
-WIFI performance
I truly believe that this will be an interesting comparison between these two tablets. We may have an interesting battle here.
I look forward doing videos on this device as the development starts to take shape.

Pocketability - See how many types of (oversized) pockets either can fit into. At 5.4" width, the KF HD 7 doesn't look to fit into any AFAIK. That would substantially undercut its portability if it needs a bag/purse.
Netflix or Prime HD video - See how either fares with paid HD video content, and the quality. It is called the KF HD, after all.
Wifi - Signal level isn't a good indicator of performance. More effective is a simple distance (w/ obstructions) test: while streaming a HD video (preferably the same source), walk away from the router until video stream breaks up.
Location-based services, incl mapping - See if KF HD uses wifi geolocation to compensate for lack of GPS, and how well it fares. Compare Amazon's mapping service (if any) to Goog's.
App selections of Amazon vs Google's stores.

Can you confirm the performance of the Kindle Fire HD compared to Nexus 7? Gizmodo had stated in their review that the Kindle Fire HD is not as responsive as Nexus 7.
Review from Gizmodo: http://gizmodo.com/5941095/kindle-fire-hd-hands-on-pretty-impressivefor-the-price
Aside from that, form factor would be a big one. The KF HD has what seems like a big bezel.
Which screen is better would be a big one.

thedauntlessone said:
Can you confirm the performance of the Kindle Fire HD compared to Nexus 7? Gizmodo had stated in their review that the Kindle Fire HD is not as responsive as Nexus 7.
Review from Gizmodo: http://gizmodo.com/5941095/kindle-fire-hd-hands-on-pretty-impressivefor-the-price
Aside from that, form factor would be a big one. The KF HD has what seems like a big bezel.
Which screen is better would be a big one.
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Understandable, there is no way any ICS devices will be as responsive as JellyBean, plus the heavily modded with the amazon interface on the KFhd. But the review made is sound so horrible. Lol. However, the reviewer did say that once you've experience JB you will never find anything lower than that satisfactory, so i think it is not that bad.

Better Nexus

Nexus 7 wins
i feel Nexus 7 wins in portability and design.

Actually I would also like to see if rooted the Kindle Fire HD would beat the Nexus 7 in terms of apps and usability outside the Amazon region, because basically the Kindle is locked inside an Amazon box.
Also people does Kindle Fire HD and Nexus 7 both have flash support?

I say leave rooting OUT of the comparison.
Flash isn't supported on the Nexus 7 BUT I got it to work on about 90% of the videos I tried. The KFHD? Time will tell I guess unless it has been already confirmed that Flash is supported and works.

For the out-of-the-box experience I can't imagine the Kindle Fire HD winning. My girlfriend has the original Kindle Fire, and basically only uses it for reading because she can't use any of her Android apps purchased for her older tablet. And keep in mind that your average person isn't going to want to deal with rooting/maintaining a rooted device (XDA users are certainly not your average Android user). The Kindle Fire HD will certainly be a step up, but it's still primarily a portal for using Amazon-purchased content. It's not truly an Android tablet (unless you root it, assuming an exploit will even be found for the HD).

raptir said:
And keep in mind that your average person isn't going to want to deal with rooting/maintaining a rooted device (XDA users are certainly not your average Android user).
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Not necessarily. When I bought a Kindle Fire for my wife, I had no intention of modifying the stock software in any way. It was only out of necessity that I even found XDA in the first place, as she wanted me to look for a way to change the wallpapers. At the time, I knew nothing about Android or rooting, but without that knowledge we would be locked into Amazon's uncostomizable buggy software. Of course we could have accepted it as it was, if there were no other options...
Most people want to get the most out of their money, and the stock Amazon software is very generic as far as tablets go. It does have some great proprietary features for people looking for an e-reader and not much else, but most of the people that buy a Kindle Fire want more than that. This is why you see people in these forums of all ages and all levels of technical experience, trying to root their KFs...Amazon really hasn't given them much choice.
And just so you know, we now have three, fully modifed KFs running different ROMs and no stock software in any of them.

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I just sold nexus 7 to buy 8.9 kindle fire only because my main purpose for the tablet is to watch movies. The 8.9 inch has one the best displays out now and 300 bucks. You don't want to spend three hundred dollars on a tablet I would recommend nexus 7. nexus seven is light weight and can do all the stuff kindle fire can do and then some. I owned 8 gig model I am not new to rooting and installing roms with nexus 7 toolkit the beginner could root this tab and unlock it. The 8 gig 200 dollar model and otg cable and you have much storage as you want. Hands down nexus 7 best 7 inch hd.

More concerned about build quality above anything else. My old Kingle Fire was forged from a brick it felt like, could really handle some bumps and bruises. Heard the Nexus 7 just sucks when it comes to build quality.

Nexus 7 all the way. Amazing dev support will get android updates for a while and a tegra processor, so you can get THD games.
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I'd like to see a comparison of color quality. The Nexus 7 is a bit subpar here, greens and yellows look a bit pastel and a slight washed out look. And the Tegra 3 causes an over exposed look after playing many videos (easily fixed once rooted).

http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/11/3317586/kindle-fire-hd-review-7-inch
"The 7-inch, 1280 x 800 display on the Fire HD is fantastic. The IPS, LCD screen looks better than probably any other tablet display I've seen, save for the new iPad. While the pixel density is the same for both the Nexus 7 and the Fire HD (216 compared to the iPad's 264), the Fire blows away the Nexus in terms of color richness, black levels, and general brightness."

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http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/11/3317586/kindle-fire-hd-review-7-inch
"The 7-inch, 1280 x 800 display on the Fire HD is fantastic. The IPS, LCD screen looks better than probably any other tablet display I've seen, save for the new iPad. While the pixel density is the same for both the Nexus 7 and the Fire HD (216 compared to the iPad's 264), the Fire blows away the Nexus in terms of color richness, black levels, and general brightness."
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Yeah, I'm hoping the more this gets highlighted and mentioned, the more embarrassed Google should be and will hopefully apply a software update for the issue (and hopefully it's something that can be fixed with an update).

If you must have a tablet now and intend to root it, get the Nexus 7. It's a sure thing. Don't be put off by the people whining about defects; nobody posts when their tablet is working correctly.
If you can tolerate Amazon's lock-in, get the Fire HD.
If you don't need a tablet right now and do want root, then wait. Buying just released hardware expecting root and other hacks out of the gate is dumb.

zeeebs said:
More concerned about build quality above anything else. My old Kingle Fire was forged from a brick it felt like, could really handle some bumps and bruises. Heard the Nexus 7 just sucks when it comes to build quality.
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for build quality, i could easily assume that the kindle fire hd would have better build quality. my nexus 7 has a few problems in the build quality. there are threads in the fourms about the nexus 7 and build quality. when the 8.9 inch one comes out i am definitely selling nexus the 7 and getting the new kindle fire.

I have ordered a Fire HD because despite the Nexus 7 specs, I have personal experience of the build quality issues. I also want decent speakers.
Compared to apple.... Lets face it a 7" HD tablet for a little more money than a new Ipod nano... what a bargain !

Nexus 7 best 7 inch tab out there gonna get fire get the 8.9. The nexus is lighter, faster, more open and i had defected nexus 7 i got replacement in a week and haven't had an issue since. Or might wanna wait check out the surface tablet it might be 200 dollars.

who will migrate to 10

Just asking, who will upgrade to nexus 10. I will just because my mom agreed to buy it as my present.
My concern is.
- big resolution, will there be any apps compatibility issue?
- bigger screen. Harder to hold and heavier.
Thought? Who else here will buy nexus 10 or trade their n7 for it?

Will just have both.The N7 is great on the go (won't do without it ) and the N10 will do more couch duty with it's big lovely screen. :laugh:

I'd consider trading my N7 for one, but I don't think it'll happen. I don't think anyone would pay "much" for a 8GB model. And I don't have the money to just buy a N10 :/

No.
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I'm just about to migrate to the nexus 7 32gb soon!
Can't wait already...selling my Asus transformer any day now. I tried a friends nexus 7 at work last week and I was sold.
Love the 7 inch form factor. Just the portability of the device is what got me.
The nexus 10 looks awesome...especially with that display resolution and the cortex a15 dual exynos. However, I think the 7 inch form factor is the one for me for now.
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Yes - I plan to do exactly that - provided the build quality is good, and once the teething issues around supply etc are dealt with.

I'm migrating to a 32gb N10.

Thinking about passing down the 7 to another family member and grabbing a 10. I think I will have to wait a while for the pricing to make sense though.
Nexus 7 16 gb ===> 32 = $50
Nexus 10 16 gb ===> 32 = $100
That's the annoying old school Apple pricing there. Annoying, everyone in the world knows that that memory costs $5. Was happy with the new pricing thresholds for the Nexus 7, I assume the 10 will follow suit eventually. Probably when competitors get closer in specs.

Fun to say but the ipad mini format would have been the best of both world.
with 1920*1200 resolution.
I keep my Nexus 7 16gig, i can bring it everywhere !

Im just pissed off at Google for dropping what I paid for a 16GB, to the price of an 8GB weeks after purchasing it.... They said try to claim a price match or something, but I don't know how.

You do realise the Nexus 10 is the lightest and thinnest 10" tablet on the market. It also runs android (obviously ) which works with most screen resolution. I'm sure Google thought it through with 4.2.

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Im just pissed off at Google for dropping what I paid for a 16GB, to the price of an 8GB weeks after purchasing it.... They said try to claim a price match or something, but I don't know how.
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Exactly the same feeling, I bought 16GB, would definitely wait for the 32GB + 3G if I knew. I have 10" eeePad Transformer, Nexus 7 is just big enough and much more comfortable to use.
It would be better if they would put this Hi-res displays to notebooks instead of tablets :laugh:

I'd love to play around with the 10 but with that resolution it's awesome but at the same time I'd want to watch media on it and it's already a pain to have a 7" with a usb stick hanging out, imagine a 10" with a usb stick hanging out.
The 7 has been an awesome road warrior. Works great as a stand along GPS on the road minus the polarized effect but I just use it as a gps in portrait mode.
hmmm..i do have a galaxy 10.1 that needs replacing but I honestly wanted to make my 10" something along the lines of a windows 8 pro tablet/hybrid but damn those things will be double the price of a nexus 10 for the i5 models. =(

I'm tempted by a 10, not to replace my 7 but my iPad 2. Think I can probably sell my iPad for a reasonable amount on eBay.

johnchad14 said:
Thinking about passing down the 7 to another family member and grabbing a 10. I think I will have to wait a while for the pricing to make sense though.
Nexus 7 16 gb ===> 32 = $50
Nexus 10 16 gb ===> 32 = $100
That's the annoying old school Apple pricing there. Annoying, everyone in the world knows that that memory costs $5. Was happy with the new pricing thresholds for the Nexus 7, I assume the 10 will follow suit eventually. Probably when competitors get closer in specs.
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It is not exactly as you think.. Google is bearing a loss with 16gb version, not making profit. So extra 100 dollars cost is not actually for memory upgrade. Its stepping up from loss to profit.. Same applies for Nexus4 also..

yes that's what come to my mind.
basically my "gadget lover" instinct tell me to get nexus 10. But then i'm in the middle of choosing in-between because I feel that 2 tablet is useless. I try to ask myself "what is your need?" , but I realise that, it's not about need, it's about "lust". Nexus 7 is really awesome for portability, i bring it everywhere but Nexus 10 has 2500x1600 resolution, front speaker, gorilla glass 2, 9000mAH battery, and NEW. And if i do get N10, i rather sell my 16gb N7 for 200$ (comes with screen protector and 2 smart case) so i could buy accessories for N10 or add another 185$ to buy nexus 4.. So now i'm in doubt, if i don't get N10 when it released, i won't be able to get it at all since this is supposed to be my b'day present.

i love my nexus 7 sizes... i think that 10 is too much

already have a 10"..and considering the fact for me a tablet is not a must have..but only a plus to play with,i have no need to upgrade my eeepad transfomer with a nexus 10.i 100% keep my nexus7.when i went to shop for buy the n7,i was tempting to buy a gnote 10.1...but after a bit of thinking,i choose the n7 for the size screen.i rarely go out home with tablets,and if i do,i'll go with the nexus7.if i'd buy nexus10 it would stay always at home.full satisfied with my 7 and 10" tablets

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I'd love to play around with the 10 but with that resolution it's awesome but at the same time I'd want to watch media on it and it's already a pain to have a 7" with a usb stick hanging out, imagine a 10" with a usb stick hanging out.
The 7 has been an awesome road warrior. Works great as a stand along GPS on the road minus the polarized effect but I just use it as a gps in portrait mode.
hmmm..i do have a galaxy 10.1 that needs replacing but I honestly wanted to make my 10" something along the lines of a windows 8 pro tablet/hybrid but damn those things will be double the price of a nexus 10 for the i5 models. =(
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USB out of the nexus 7? I currently have a Acer a500 and thinking about going to nexus 7. Where are you plugging this USB into?
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USB comes from an OTG cable (microUSB > Full USB). Search Amazon for them.
I'm good with a 7". I had my Asus Transformer 10" and I loved it but it was just a little too big. I wanted to upgrade to a Tegra3 but didn't see it worthwhile just replacing it with another 10" tablet (Asus TF300). I bought my son a used Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" and I LOVED the size. Fortunately I held out and found the N7. It had all the great features (minus HDMI )I wanted but in a 7" form factor. Plus a price point that was great. I sold my Transformer for $225 and picked up a N7.
Most users here HAD a 10" and downsized to a 7" because we preferred the smaller size.

HTC Volantis to be the next Nexus Tablet

Shameless plug to my own article, but this is hot off the press. It seems that the HTC Volantis will be the next Nexus tablet. Pretty impressive specs.....big price to match. What do you guys think?
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-htc-volantis-is-set-to-be-the-next-google-nexus-tablet

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Shameless plug to my own article, but this is hot off the press. It seems that the HTC Volantis will be the next Nexus tablet. Pretty impressive specs.....big price to match. What do you guys think?
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-htc-volantis-is-set-to-be-the-next-google-nexus-tablet
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4:3? $399 for 16GB?? It would take a lot for me to buy a Touchwiz Tablet over a Nexus but this would do it. If that is how it will be I will be buying a Galaxy Tab S 8.4" instead of this thing. 80% of my daily tablet is usage is watching videos of some sort and 4:3 just don't work for that at this age.
Plus I wouldn't call the spec impressively, 2GB Ram is standard nowadays and Tegra K1 is nice, but 2048X1536(reported as 2048x1440 due to onscreen buttons) is lower res than Tab Pro/Tab S 8.4 and Kindle Fire HDX(all are 8.9" and smaller with 2560x1600 res).

brett_day said:
Shameless plug to my own article, but this is hot off the press. It seems that the HTC Volantis will be the next Nexus tablet. Pretty impressive specs.....big price to match. What do you guys think?
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-htc-volantis-is-set-to-be-the-next-google-nexus-tablet
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I can't see Google going with 4:3 and only 2gb of RAM. Both are non starters for me. I would buy a Galaxy Tab Pro before this and deal with the darn physical button(s).
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Out of all the specs listed I was most surprised that it is only rumored to have 2gb of RAM. With a 64-bit processor in tow, I was expecting more. Just remember that these are just rumored specs. Still $399 is a little steep, however I would still pick one up over other devices just because of quick updates, hopefully easy boot loader unlocking and, quality ROM development.

I agree that I thought the spec's to be a bit lack for such a long wait (Q4) but the upside is the 64-bit processor. I got tired of waiting so I ordered a Tab S 8.4 and I will buy a Note 4 when it's released. . I am at the point with Android that I think it works well in regards to performance and I usually replace my devices every couple of years so I am less reliant on updates. I haven't even rooted my latest tablet ( Note Pro 12.2). So in other words I will be passing on this one.

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I agree that I thought the spec's to be a bit lack for such a long wait (Q4) but the upside is the 64-bit processor. I got tired of waiting so I ordered a Tab S 8.4 and I will buy a Note 4 when it's released. . I am at the point with Android that I think it works well in regards to performance and I usually replace my devices every couple of years so I am less reliant on updates. I haven't even rooted my latest tablet ( Note Pro 12.2). So in other words I will be passing on this one.
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Yeah the Tegra K1 is certainly an interesting processor, and it will be interesting to see how Google approach 64-bit Android. I agree with you that Android is at a point where rooting and rom'ing to get enhanced performance has perhaps seen it's hey dey, but regardless of that, there will always be those who love to tinker Why Google seem to be going the route they are is beyond me, I would rather have a slightly less premium build quality in terms of material used to cut costs, but obviously there has been enough demand, or their have been enough voices raised for them to ditch plastic in favor of aluminum. I will just stick with my Nexus 7, it already does everything I need it to do, and it's at a price that I can live with

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Yeah the Tegra K1 is certainly an interesting processor, and it will be interesting to see how Google approach 64-bit Android. I agree with you that Android is at a point where rooting and rom'ing to get enhanced performance has perhaps seen it's hey dey, but regardless of that, there will always be those who love to tinker Why Google seem to be going the route they are is beyond me, I would rather have a slightly less premium build quality in terms of material used to cut costs, but obviously there has been enough demand, or their have been enough voices raised for them to ditch plastic in favor of aluminum. I will just stick with my Nexus 7, it already does everything I need it to do, and it's at a price that I can live with
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I concur with what you said, plus Nexus 7 have the aspect ratio that I prefer(16:10). So if Google wants to sell Nexus 9 with those specs and 4:3 aspect ratio then I will just keep my Nexus 7 and wait till a new 16:10 Gpe/Silver Tablet or the next 16:10 Nexus tablet instead.

Also, reading that a LTE model could cost $600? I was really hoping for more. But we will know offically next week at I/O. If thats all we really have foward to, I will probably make Galaxy Tab S 10" my next device. I have been wanting a bigger tablet and LTE. I was hoping for it here, but if this proves to the final model. Ill move on. I love ease of rooting, unlocking bootloader and contract free. We know Nexus targets that middle ground. But if this is the middle ground with high end pricing, im not so sure they will make a impact.

Only 2GB of RAM blows my mind.

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Also, reading that a LTE model could cost $600? I was really hoping for more. But we will know offically next week at I/O. If thats all we really have foward to, I will probably make Galaxy Tab S 10" my next device. I have been wanting a bigger tablet and LTE. I was hoping for it here, but if this proves to the final model. Ill move on. I love ease of rooting, unlocking bootloader and contract free. We know Nexus targets that middle ground. But if this is the middle ground with high end pricing, im not so sure they will make a impact.
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Not sure if they will say much about Volantis/flounder at I/O if it is due in Q4, the most they do is show off some Android L features like how Apple did with iOS8 at WWDC.
I do get the feeling they will announce a few new Gpe/Silver devices as 4(Galaxy S4, HTC One 2013, Xperia Z Ultra & Gpad 8.3) out of 6 current Gpe devices have gone out of stock recently. I am hoping for a Galaxy Tab S 8.4/10.5 Gpe release.
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Only 2GB of RAM blows my mind.
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Same here, Basically this a device that is out-speced by the recently announced Galaxy Tab S 8.4(same price and have SD slot) in every aspect aside from the SOC. It would be a really tough sell at its Q4 release date.

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Not sure if they will say much about Volantis/flounder at I/O if it is due in Q4, the most they do is show off some Android L features like how Apple did with iOS8 at WWDC.
I do get the feeling they will announce a few new Gpe/Silver devices as 4(Galaxy S4, HTC One 2013, Xperia Z Ultra & Gpad 8.3) out of 6 current Gpe devices have gone out of stock recently. I am hoping for a Galaxy Tab S 8.4/10.5 Gpe release.
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I would most certainly go with a GPE Tab S. But i want the multi window. Is it on Nexus 7 2013 through Xposed? I haven't look. That's probably the only feature that i would like. Especially on a 10"

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I would most certainly go with a GPE Tab S. But i want the multi window. Is it on Nexus 7 2013 through Xposed? I haven't look. That's probably the only feature that i would like. Especially on a 10"
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It is not a xposed feature, it is an OmniROM feature that is still in early beta. I think it might work eventually but if you want stable multi-window I guess you have no option but to put up with Touchwiz for now.

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It is not a xposed feature, it is an OmniROM feature that is still in early beta. I think it might work eventually but if you want stable multi-window I guess you have no option but to put up with Touchwiz for now.
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I don't care for tw, but like the multi window feature. My only hesitant waiting for another rooting and unlocking exploit for a Samsung device. There is always hope. But I love the ease of,
fastboot oem unlock.
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I don't believe any of this news (rumor) neither the date nor the aspect ratio (4:3) I believe aren't consistent

Will you be buying the Nexus 9? (Thoughts on Nexus 9)

After more than one year of the Nexus 7 (2013), how many of you will be buying the new Nexus 9?
One of the main reasons for the Nexus 7's success was the awesome price point. With a reported price for the Nexus 9 being $400, are you willing to put out extra for an even better Nexus experience?

I'm on the fence. I am a little leery of the Nvidia chip. But the touchscreen issues on my N7 2013 is really pissing me off to the point where I want to replace it.
Several of my used apps aren't compatible with Android L.
I think I might roll back my N7 to 4.4.2, flash the touchscreen fix on it, and call it a day. I'm definitely not buying day 1. Plus I'm torn between the NVidia Shield with the stylus, although it has reportedly faulty wifi (equally annoying).

I may buy it (have been waiting for it by-passing tab pro and tab s and even new ipad air), but this time, I will wait a while to see how it performs. The touchscreen issues on my N 7 2 (my old Toshiba Thrive has better touch response overall) and the weak cellular signals on my N5 both piss me off at times. That's why I'm going to wait. Liked my galaxy nexus, loved my N4 (but no lte), and liked my original N7. Not looking at the N6 at all.
It did seem to me that L improved the touch issue (made it less noticeable), but I didn't leave it on for very long.

Not sure if it the NVIDIA chip was confirmed yet or not, but that would make me pass on it. I have a pretty strong stance against NVIDIA's proprietary tech, and won't willing support it by buying such hardware...
Sadly though, I'd love to have a large Android tablet again. My Nexus 10 was awesome while I had it.
Edit: Yep, it's using a NVIDIA Tegra K1...

I'm torn. I'm not a huge fan of the 7" tablet form factor with phones getting larger. This seems like a great size. I'm not excited about the priced that's been rumored and I'd like to see them add the microSD card option that some have been speculating may be part of the N9. 32GB just isn't enough and the "on the go" feature is nice but still not as nice as the option to just add in a microSD.
Edit: Checking out the full specs, no mention of microSD and looks like they stuck with 2GB for the RAM. A bit disappointing to say the least...

Here Nexus 9 ...
Display
8.9" IPS LCD
Battery
6700 mAh
Camera
8MP rear camera, 1.6MP front camera
Processor
CPU: 64-bit NVIDIA Tegra K1 processor 2.3 GHz
GPU: Kepler DX1
Memory: 16 GB & 32 GB
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So no thanks i will stick with Nexus 7 2013

Not interested at all. I don't care for the 4:3 ratio and $399 is overpriced for only 16gb with no SD storage. I don't understand why 16gb or even 32gb is still the norm. RAM is cheap… 64gb should be the starting point and 128gb the upgrade.
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ncguy68 said:
Not interested at all. I don't care for the 4:3 ratio and $399 is overpriced for only 16gb with no SD storage. I don't understand why 16gb or even 32gb is still the norm. RAM is cheap… 64gb should be the starting point and 128gb the upgrade.
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No kidding! $400 for the 16Gb! That would make the LTE version maybe ... $550-600! Yeah I'm happy with my Deb (except that the updates are late cause of Verizon), I don't even think I could convince my wife to get it to replace of our iPad 1 (Hey it was a gift) once it dies. The Nexus Player looks interesting wanna see how it shakes out 1st since it is a bigger jump price wise from a Chromecast.

Yeah, at $400 I feel like they're missing what made the Nexus 7s so popular. They were arguably the best tabs on the market for half the price of the competition. And why the heck did they go 4:3? That made it a no-buy regardless of the price for me.

The 32gb LTE versions are $599. The price is really off putting for me. $300 seems to be the right price point for a high end 32gb android tablet.

absolutely yes
I love my N 7 2013 but aspect ratio. 4:3 way better on my taste. Price is quite high though

The main reason I won't be buying it is primarily because of the price. I would love to get my hands on it if I could though

I will be sticking with my Nexus 7 for awhile longer. It still does everything I want it to and is the perfect size to carry around in my back pocket at the Airport while traveling. The 9 will be just a bit too big. I was hoping for an updated 7 near the same price but the price also kills it for me since I have my first kid on the way. Oh well.

Overall, my Nexus 7 FHD, is perfectly fine. It'll be getting Android 5, and its small and light enough to take everywhere. I am also leery of NVIDIA mobile chipsets, especially after the way that Tegra 3 and Tegra 4 were quickly abandoned.
I'll be watching though, because the specs still make me drool a little. ????

No for the Nexus 9. I may get one in the future, but not until some refurbs show up with a better price. I love my N7 and don't see a need to move on from it.

Price is definitely an issue and so is the size. That's why I got the nexus 7. An 8 inch tablet is about as big as id go if I were to get another tablet. Which is another reason I'm not getting a nexus 6. Sure the specs are great but it's too dang big!

I was planning on upgrading to the 6 and the 9. But totally disappointed by both, size and price are not acceptable.
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First I need to have the Nexus 9 in my hands for a few minutes in a store, so I can decide if it's for me or not at this time(like I did with my nexus 7 2013 a few months back when I got it) . Going from 7" 16:9 to 8.9" 4:3 might be weird for me and others. But I think an upgrade for me most likely will be in late 1Q of 2015 as I am just in love for now with the Nexus 7 2013 size, screen, responsiveness and portability.
Nexus 7 2013 is reaching it's EOL in 2015 as Google only supports Android updates for only 2 years on it's devices but there's always xda development community that will keep it alive, hopefully for another 2.
So at most Nexus 7 2013 will see an Official Android 5.1 Lollipop (5.1 would be a mini update if needed) next year or not and after that Google will stop caring about it.

Will the nex 9 be stock or have that crap htc sense?
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Is that really a question
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Nexus 9 is too expensive

The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase.
I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4, which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch count on its display , 2.3 ghz quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory.
Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.

tabuser said:
The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase. I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4 which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch, 2.3 gig quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory. Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.

Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.

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Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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What's the dev support like?

scottharris4 said:
What's the dev support like?
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Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it

USBhost said:
Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
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Yeah I know, I developed a bunch of ROM's for it. Had to do blind tests since I don't have it.

scottharris4 said:
Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.

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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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It will mean that getting future custom ROMs could be potentially compromised because (1) Samsung may not release stuff that is needed for these ROMs, and (2) how many devs (which there aren't many to begin with) are going to want to keep putting in work to an "obsolete" device.

Anyone saying that other tablets are "comparable spec wise" either forgot about the 64-bit CPU or they are likely underestimating the effect it will have on performance. Unless you are considering a different tablet with either a Denver K1 or Snapdragon 810 there is probably no point in comparing it to the Nexus 9.

This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad

mk92595 said:
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.

Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9

I even consider buying a iPad Mini 2 (only £329 for 32GB) given the iPad Mini 3 is not much of an upgrade to this and not worth buying.
But being a Nexus Fanboy, I'll probably will get a N9 and say Goodbye for my slow & laggy N10.
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iPad Air 2 16GB cost the same as a Nexus 9 32GB...
that's just too expensive
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What did you even expect from a new device coming out this late?

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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
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You can always use OTG. I am almost always near a WiFi connection so I should be fine. I have a grandfathered Unlimited T-Mo plan without hotspot but I want to see if I can bypass that. All my media will be coming off my server computer and apps shouldn't be that much space.

Please do your home work on the nvidia shield tablet!!!
It has been known of self cracking corners! Plenty of customers on here, I was one of them!!! even with the second batch and LTE version
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Very poor WiFi!
And losses charge whilst on charge. Suss that one out?
I had one and sent it back after a week!
It could of been a very good tablet. But has some very big issues!
There are only a couple of very hard working devs over there as development stands.
But sadly the shield is a big flop. Really is a shame!!!!!!

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This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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For me it is bad. $399 screams highend and it should have had 32GB at that price point. But even that sounds bad. Should have been $300 for 16GB and $350 for 32GB.
Hate to bring up iPad's around here but a new retina mini cost $299 at 16GB. If you're not into rooting/hacking it looks pretty decent compared to these prices. Point being it won't take long for prices to drop on this new Nexus 9. I wouldn't be surprised to see these hit the refurb bins at $250 to $300 in 6 months. That's how I got my 2013 Nexus 7 for $130.

how about Xiaomi Mi pad?!
did u think about xiaomi's mi pad?! it has the same cpu and gpu. but at lower price.64 gb version is about 340$.also have the same size of Ipad mini2 and all the accessories of ipad mini2 fits to this one..from the Dev side of this tablet i dont know alot.but i know nvidia quickly turn behind to its cpu and products..i have htc one x..i waited a lot for some good games that never showed up!by the way i have ifive mini 3gs..i am very satisfied.. mi pad was my choice but i needed sim card slot so i bought this ifive.. Mi pad is a very good tablet..think about it :good:

I honestly believe that for what you get with the nexus 9 that it's going to be a decent deal.
I just bought a galaxy tab s 10.5 and am debating on buying the nexus 9 as my living room tablet.

lolpok said:
Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
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My Nexus 7 is still as smooth as the day I bought it