Replaced my ageing Parrot android headunit today with a Xtrons TSD100L unit.
Works fine, plays all sources fine, but when switching from one source to another is seems to turn off its audio output briefly causing amplifier to make a horrible pop sound.
I've checked everything and cant figure what issue may be - i thought it was possibly the power trigger to the amp being switched off each time, but its definitely staying powered during each switch of source.
Anyone seen/heard similar issues ?
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HI I recently buy the car android unit. I attach the amplifier with the unit's blue wire so it turn on with unit power on. But now when i increase the volume more than 20 it just stop the audio out on all speakers. And the only way it work is turn the car off wait 1 min then power on. Can any one help me regarding this?
Same issue, any audio I play sometimes stop (maybe for a second) and it’s back again, but when I turn of the car, and come back maybe 5 min after, turn on the car and there’s no sound on any app. I tried whit the original HU (veloster) and all the speakers works fine, so I’m guessing is a software problem. I’m new in all this but, the can bus will something to do??
Hello, I recently installed the above Android unit into my 2014 Mitsubishi EVO with Rockford system. It came with the can bus decoder MT-SS-03 for 2014 Outlander. I set everything up in the factory settings menu but I'm having a major audio problem that sadly is ruining an otherwise awesome experience.
If I listen to any music at high volume all system audio cuts out completely for 5-10 seconds at a time. I've found this problem is directly related to the volume. The louder it is, the quicker the audio will cut out. I've double and triple checked all wiring and pins, updated to the latest MCU 2.59, Android system (8-3-2017), etc.
I'm out of ideas on what to try next but hoping someone here can shine some light on the situation. Thanks in advance and looking forward to putting an end to this issue!
do you have proper canbus?
Yes I do, according to them. I did get a red one though which was labeled for 2014 Outlander which I understand to be the newer can box for 2014-2015 EVO but the pictures I've seen show a black box and mine was red but labeled as the newer one. I thought the older 2008-2013 units were red. Not sure if that makes a difference or not but I do have sound from all speakers so it works it just cuts out at high volume. However, the amplifier settings on the Android unit do respond a bit strange. The sub slider seems to change all speaker output and not the sub directly and has a pretty minimal effect. The fader seems right at least as far as the channels go.
In the meantime I did contact the seller on Amazon about the issue. They told me the issue is caused by the high power protection of the factory amplifier. To fix the issue they want me to re-install the factory radio, turn the volume sliders down to the "middle part" and then install the Android unit again. This seems a bit strange to me but it could be the factory radio interfaces with the amp in a different way and is able to control the gain of the sub and the Android unit cannot. With the newer Android unit I noticed the max volume is much louder so maybe I'm hitting some sort of over current protection causing the amp to momentarily shut down. Has anyone ever heard of this?
What I'm not sure about is when this procedure would be needed. Is it because I had the amp slider on factory unit is set too high before I removed it or is it because I disconnected the battery and the amp defaults to a higher setting that only the factory unit can adjust? It would be a real shame if every time power is cut from the amp I need to repeat the process. I fear that may be the case because I'm not sure the amp has an internal EPROM or non-volatile memory that's saving the settings and I did in fact disconnect the battery.
Either way I'll be happy to finally get to the bottom of the issue and I'm sure I'll find out whether or not I'll need to swap the radios again. Until then I'll keep the factory unit closeby. Luckily it's very easy to swap out so fingers crossed this fixes the problem. It's going to be a few days till I pull the radio out since I'm also waiting for a replacement USB harness since one of mine is inop due to a damaged wire.
Please let me know if anyone has any input about this. Thanks again.
Ditto - did you try swapping back and lowering the volume, if so, did it resolve the issue?
I have only had mine for 3 days, Dasiata HA2106-S720 with Dasaita CB003 Canbus harness in a 2013 Mitsubishi ASX with Rockford Fosgate. I would agree that the volume seems higher, so there could be some truth in the Sellers theory.
By the way my experience with Subwoofer control also matches yours - adjusting the lowest frequencies on the Graphic Equalizer seems to affect the main speakers more than the subwoofer, and I am not getting the same 'punchy' bass as the OEM Head Unit.
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Hello, I recently installed the above Android unit into my 2014 Mitsubishi EVO with Rockford system. It came with the can bus decoder MT-SS-03 for 2014 Outlander. I set everything up in the factory settings menu but I'm having a major audio problem that sadly is ruining an otherwise awesome experience.
If I listen to any music at high volume all system audio cuts out completely for 5-10 seconds at a time. I've found this problem is directly related to the volume. The louder it is, the quicker the audio will cut out. I've double and triple checked all wiring and pins, updated to the latest MCU 2.59, Android system (8-3-2017), etc.
I'm out of ideas on what to try next but hoping someone here can shine some light on the situation. Thanks in advance and looking forward to putting an end to this issue!
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You made also the Car Settings to work well ? Things like keyless operations, windshiel wipers operation, lights time out, auto fold mirror, etc ? Thanks.
Hi all.
I stumbled upon these forum by googling my issue. So far I haven't found any answers to my problems, so hoping for some help from the great people on here.
I have recently installed a seicane 10.1 android head unit into my jeep wrangler.
It appears to have a few little issues like audio is automatically somewhat louder on start up ...... but my main issue is
Only the radio app has sound.... no other apps have sound.
All speakers are working correctly with the radio app. Canbus setting is correct. But no sound output from the other apps.
If anyone has experienced this and can shed some light on it for me I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks.
If it is a new unit,I guess you car may has factory amp,you need to connect the head unit amp harness to your car amp harness.
If the unit used for several months,then other apps no sound,I guess the main board is broken.
It is better for you to contact the seller for help.
May be a shot in the dark, but you might have hooked the amp wire up to the 'powered antenna' wire by mistake. If you tune to a radio station, that wire will get power and you will hear the sound, but if you are on a different app, that wire will not get power and you will not hear sound.
The amp wire coming from the radio will always have power and will work on all apps, and they are both blue and easy to confuse.
Pklains advice wprked for me.
The remote wire is black on the back of my unit. I accidentally hooked up blue antenna wire so it only powered amp when radio app was on.
I was NOT wiring it up incorrectly.
It was a software fault. I since got a replacement from the manufacturer (took 3 long months) since installing the replacement it worked perfectly.
hi ... same thing happened to me. Check your system. If your speaker lines is going through any amp, bridge, crossover or whatnot then do not supply CAR'S signal wire from ANDROIDS radio antenna signal wire (the android unit's antenna wire has +12v only when radio is on) - test audio by supplying 12v to your CAR'S signal wire. Simple yet it took me some time to figure things out. I hope this helps out someone who has the same problem.
Also it is not advisable to connect ANDROID amplified output to VEHICLES AMP - should be pre-amp from ANDROID to AMP or use LINE OUTPUT CONVERTERS or DIY (search speaker level to line level adapter ... a simple voltage divider worked for me) make sure you know car amps impedance before anything else ( industry standard is 10k )
I have the same problem with my PX6. The unit worked for a few months, but all of a sudden I only get sound from the FM radio.
Any advice?
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I have the same problem with my PX6. The unit worked for a few months, but all of a sudden I only get sound from the FM radio.
Any advice?
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did you find a solution to this? I sometimes get this, the only way for me to fix it is by doing a hard restart by pressing powerbutton for 15seconds
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did you find a solution to this? I sometimes get this, the only way for me to fix it is by doing a hard restart by pressing powerbutton for 15seconds
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I'm waiting for parts from China. Stuck in customs. I let you know if it is hard to replace and if it solves the problem...
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I'm waiting for parts from China. Stuck in customs. I let you know if it is hard to replace and if it solves the problem...
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Do you get this issue all the time or is it random?
for me it's random, i have to force restart the unit to get sound working on stuff that's not radio/beeps.
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Do you get this issue all the time or is it random?
for me it's random, i have to force restart the unit to get sound working on stuff that's not radio/beeps.
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I get it all the time, but it started with a lot of "static noice" from the speakers. That went away if I rebooted the device. The unit worked again for a few minutes and the problem with the noice was back. One day it just went totally silent except beep and FM radio
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I get it all the time, but it started with a lot of "static noice" from the speakers. That went away if I rebooted the device. The unit worked again for a few minutes and the problem with the noice was back. One day it just went totally silent except beep and FM radio
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ah so we are having different problems then
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ah so we are having different problems then
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I had to desolder the amplifier (TDA7851L) and replace it with a new one. Not easy, but everything works for me now
I don't see my exact problem, which is very similar to everyone here. I get sound from the Radio app - but if I use the Radio app, I lose sound everywhere else. I retain the ability to use the Radio for sound. This also happens upon a reset, as if it starts the radio first or something - but the app doesn't need to be started for that to be a problem. This started upon initial installation.
Fun thing: If I power off the car (battery still connected of course), wait a few minutes, then try stuff, I get sound everywhere. Until I use the Radio app, of course. Naturally it decides to reboot when it feels like it, so this is annoying.
I have an Eunavi HU. The same heppened to me after upgrading the firmware with a file provided by manufacturer. No sound, only on radio. After few messages with the manufacturer here is the solution that worked: Factory settings->DSP settings->ARM Audio Input Selection-> check Analog Input. Hope this solution will help someone.
HelloI have this problem with my ts10 hu
Hi. After changing Canbus setting in my android head unit, I haven't any sound in all app and radio in my HU. Please help me.
I have been having a serious issue with my head unit ever since I got it. Well, actually, not me, but everyone who I talk to on my phone with it over bluetooth, in particular when my DVR is recording the dashcam. When the built-in DVR is recording the dashcam, it keeps making a loud buzz sound every 5 seconds to the receiving end of the call. That is, I don't hear it, but anyone I'm talking to on the other end of the call does. It is very loud and irritating, to such a degree that I have to turn off the DVR every time I'm in a call. Obviously, this shouldn't happen. Additionally, I find the same thing happens when making a call with Skype installed on the radio, which wouldn't be using bluetooth at that point, so it seems somehow either the dashcam itself (it is not the DVR software, I tried another software that did the same thing) or a hardware issue is creating noise on the line-in or mic in the sound system that goes out to the other end of the call. I've tried support from the "manufacturer", but they aren't much use and I don't intend to send the unit back to China and wait to get it back for 4 or 5 months. I suspect it isn't likely to be the dashcam, so for some reason there seems to be feedback on the USB line to the sound module.
So, I'd appreciate any ideas here. I've also tried numerous other DVR apps, but it seems that pretty much none of them function correctly with the USB dashcam that came with the radio. I don't know if it's an issue with the specific camera or that it's a USB interface for the camera. So, I'd appreciate any experience anyone can offer to resolve this.
Other than these issues, I've got it working the way I want. I installed a cooling fan on the PX5 CPU. I need to put a capacitor in parallel with it still as I think it's causing the LCD to flicker slightly. It came with Android 8, so I installed Android 9 on it. Upgraded the MCU. I also replaced the plain WIFI antenna wire with a plugin port so I can connect a better wifi antenna. I found an app that allows me to force a normal reboot instead of the pseudo-reboot it does with the power button because Android sometimes needs an actual real reboot.
There are some really annoying quirks about the radio too that if anyone knows how to change I'd be very grateful. For one, the Accessibility Services keep getting disabled when the radio is shutdown with the car. It seems to be a memory function built into the device as it doesn't happen with a real normal reboot. Also, the wifi sometimes gets shut off, I assume for the same reason. And the lack of security really really bugs me.
That's not an issue it's a feature I guess they didn't want to dedicate a PCB layer to route analog signals I even wonder if they have a dedicated layer for power. Anyway the problem is they run analog lines next to/under digital lines and no ground plane to isolate the 2. There is a mic mod thread that addresses those issues if you're interested.
Maybe just installing an external mic would be sufficient if your HU already has a connector for it. As for your other issue, check the factory settings menu there should be a setting to restore the unit to previous state on reboot. Sorry I can't remember the exact name of it.
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That's not an issue it's a feature I guess they didn't want to dedicate a PCB layer to route analog signals I even wonder if they have a dedicated layer for power. Anyway the problem is they run analog lines next to/under digital lines and no ground plane to isolate the 2. There is a mic mod thread that addresses those issues if you're interested.
Maybe just installing an external mic would be sufficient if your HU already has a connector for it. As for your other issue, check the factory settings menu there should be a setting to restore the unit to previous state on reboot. Sorry I can't remember the exact name of it.
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I have an external mic. It doesn't help. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the mic mod. It's probably what I've been looking for. As for the factory settings, I don't seem to have an option to restore the unit previous state in my factory settings.
Hi all,
I bought a PX5 radio marked TOOPAI. The Android version installed is 10. The internal microphone has a very strange behaviour.
The issue with the microphone is that the sound is very bad. If I try to use the mic app from Android to test my voice, the gain meter goes out of range and the voice is all very bad static...
If I reboot the unit the problem is fixed, What can it be?
The unit does not shutdown completely when I switch off the car. It goes into a sort of sleep mode and when I switch on the car again (even the next day) the units starts immediately and the microphone issue is back again.
Thanks to everyone that will help!
No one with ideas? Thanks!
I have exactly the same problem also with a PX5 unit. I don't suppose you had any luck?
Im currently dealing with the people I bought it form trying to sort it. Just to post what has been tried and not worked so far.
Internal and external mic have the same problem so switching does not help
I updated the firmware on the unit that was supplied by the seller and still no luck
I have recorded the audio with and without the problem and sent it to seller. They seem to be having some difficulty playing the MP3 but im hoping we can work out what the problem is.