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Just wanted to share with you guys a pretty easy way to use Facebook without actually using Messenger, no root needed as well. I am using latest beta and works fine.
This should work on all Android devices.
1) Download newest facebook version if you haven't
2) Download Messenger yes it's needed but don't turn it on at all
3) Download from Playstore Superlock Package Disabler (activate it as an admin: to let it block apps) using it you can also block bunch of bloat
4) in Package Disabler block messenger
5) Profit! facebook will now open regular chat instead of using "messenger"
Let me know how it goes for yall
Or you just install the first version of FB messenger and never open it or even sign in and continue using Facebook like normal. Just turn off auto update for that app in the play store app. It's a lot smaller than the new messenger.apk and doesn't require a third party app. There is a thread in the main apps forum.
I just made a shortcut for fb for Google Chrome on my launcher. That way Facebook isn't running all the damn time in the background
bbeelzebub how do you install an earlier version? every time I try to install it, it asks if I would like to install an update to the built in application and then fails. do I have a wrong apk file or should I do something different. im running 5.0.1
sexfreak said:
bbeelzebub how do you install an earlier version? every time I try to install it, it asks if I would like to install an update to the built in application and then fails. do I have a wrong apk file or should I do something different. im running 5.0.1
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Here is the one I used. I just installed like normal, went into the play store like I'm going to update and long pressed the menu key. Up comes the option to turn off auto updates for that app. Unchecked it. Then I went into the app menu on my phone and disabled notifications for the app period.
Hasn't bothered me since and I use FB for all my messaging needs without using messenger. I've never even opened the app. Make sure you uninstall any version of messenger you may have previously installed.
so far it worked great. hopefully it wont force me to upgrade thanks
Do you know of a way to take messenger and facebook out of google play so it wont update? I used to use TI backup but now I cant use that.
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sexfreak said:
so far it worked great. hopefully it wont force me to upgrade thanks
Do you know of a way to take messenger and facebook out of google play so it wont update? I used to use TI backup but now I cant use that.
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Go to the app in the play store where it gives you the option to update, long press the left capacitive button on the bottom, up should pop a men to disable autoupdate for that app.
many thanks
Why the hell can i not uninstall the facebook app? I only received the phone like an hour ago but so far iam very happy! No issues etc I was just uninstalling some apps however and was quiet please that theres very little bloatware but the one remaining app i want to delete 'Facebook' cannot be deleted! Why? The facebook app was always an app that was up to the user wether they wanted it or not! After all..... not everyone uses facebook and not everyone wants to use the app so why force it on us with no option to uninstall?
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Why the hell can i not uninstall the facebook app? I only received the phone like an hour ago but so far iam very happy! No issues etc I was just uninstalling some apps however and was quiet please that theres very little bloatware but the one remaining app i want to delete 'Facebook' cannot be deleted! Why? The facebook app was always an app that was up to the user wether they wanted it or not! After all..... not everyone uses facebook and not everyone wants to use the app so why force it on us with no option to uninstall?
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That's odd, mine came without Facebook installed. Are you on any provider-customized phone?
joeyvanhummel said:
That's odd, mine came without Facebook installed. Are you on any provider-customized phone?
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No mine is factory unlocked! Ironically theres very little bloatware on this device in comparison to previous devices! Iam impressed!! Facebook is probably the only app pre installed that i don't want but sadly i cannot uninstall it
I think Facebook is part of operating system installed on the phone, so it's kind of permanent, but you can disable it and that was the first thing I did on my phone. However for some strange reason facebook installation manager is used by Oculus to install it's VR applications and since my kids use VR to play sometimes, I had to enable it back, but facebook application itself can be disabled.
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I think Facebook is part of operating system installed on the phone, so it's kind of permanent, but you can disable it and that was the first thing I did on my phone. However for some strange reason facebook installation manager is used by Oculus to install it's VR applications and since my kids use VR to play sometimes, I had to enable it back, but facebook application itself can be disabled.
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Thats strange! I guess its no big deal! Id rather have it uninstalled but i will just disable it and download an alternative for facebook instead! Are you saying that if i want to use VR that i have to enable it again though??
Blaalad12 said:
No mine is factory unlocked! Ironically theres very little bloatware on this device in comparison to previous devices! Iam impressed!! Facebook is probably the only app pre installed that i don't want but sadly i cannot uninstall it
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Almost all samsung apps were indeed uninstallable this time around, which impressed me, too. I think if you really wanted to get rid of FB, you'd have to root your phone and delete the APK from the system partition.
just disable it, it's better than nothing
Yeah I was pretty puzzled too. Weird that they have Facebook as a system app.
Blaalad12 said:
Thats strange! I guess its no big deal! Id rather have it uninstalled but i will just disable it and download an alternative for facebook instead! Are you saying that if i want to use VR that i have to enable it again though??
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There are 2 Facebook apps on my phone: Facebook app installer and Facebook app manager, you can disable manager but keep the installer for Oculus to work. BTW you won't see the installer until you enable system apps.
I rarely use facebook, but when I do I use it on either chrome or the samsung browser. I use it in facebook mobile mode, but when I want to check any messages I have to switch over to desktop mode as mobile mode will prompt to install facebook messenger. Bottom line, you don't need the facebook app to use facebook, use chrome or samsung browser (lately I am finding I like samsung internet better as it seems to make text the proper size to be more easily readable and also you can add an extension to sync your chrome bookmarks and history to the samsung internet browser) - anyway, use one of these browsers in mobile mode. The facebook app has too many permissions and location following for my tastes. Eff that. I disable it with package disabler pro.
Facebook is needed to do VR. If it's not enabled oculus doesn't launch.
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I can still uninstall it completely.
Can not lot into fb or messenger on brand new s8+ but can log into them on other devices. ..any tips how to log into them on my s8+
I use fb so it's no big deal for me BUT SKYPE? Why does it have to be installed...
NeedleGames said:
I use fb so it's no big deal for me BUT SKYPE? Why does it have to be installed...
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Because Samsung gets a back hander from them
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surfer1000 said:
Because Samsung gets a back hander from them
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It looks like Samsung made deals with companies which are kinda like enemies to each other. For example messaging apps:
Google - CHECK
Facebook - CHECK
Microsoft- CHECK
Samsung - CHECK
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Why the hell can i not uninstall the facebook app? I only received the phone like an hour ago but so far iam very happy! No issues etc I was just uninstalling some apps however and was quiet please that theres very little bloatware but the one remaining app i want to delete 'Facebook' cannot be deleted! Why? The facebook app was always an app that was up to the user wether they wanted it or not! After all..... not everyone uses facebook and not everyone wants to use the app so why force it on us with no option to uninstall?
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A friend called me using facebook on pc and asked me to help him call a taxi to his home and he told me the address cos his phone was dead and he couldnt call. I ended the FB call and called my usual taxi number (gsmcall) . Ususally, someone picks up and asks where you want the taxi... But instead i get computer voice saying "press 3 if you need taxi for "my friend's address" I didnt give anyone the address and it wasnt even written. but somehow the computer knew where i wanted to call taxi for. I ended the call without speaking to anyone cos it was strange and later i received sms that taxi was waiting. A taxi lady called to tell me my taxi was waiting then i asked her how they sent taxi to me without me giving her the address. she ignored my question and told me taxi is waiting.. then the taxi guy left.
It was scary..
So i went to my facebook app and messenger app to check the app permissions (there are so many permissions granted to facebook without your permission and you dont have access to disable it.. "like record your calls without your knowledge, and many more.."
i found this paid appp "advanced permission remover" it helps u view all those permissions you dont have access to and dissable them, the app creates new apk and the you uninstall the one you have before installing the new app.
But i get error message that "app cant be installed because its conflicting with app that have the same name" both fb and messenger...
I found a way to unistall facebook from system using computer without rooting my Note 8 which i can tell you but it didnt help. After uninstalling, I still cant install my modified fb app. It still says app is conflicting and when i install from playstore, atleast to have it as user app not system app. the facebook app installs itself back to system and you cant uninstall. So you have to do the whole process again using pc if you dont want it
i dont know why FB has to be a system app and the rate at which facebook spys on you is ridiculous.. if you having a discussion about someone and your phone is close to you. after a period of time, that person shows up as friend suggestion..
pls suggest a good third party app to use instead of the main facebook app
Uninstalling system app using pc
use this tutorial on this link
http://en.miui.com/thread-709494-1-1.html
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Why the hell can i not uninstall the facebook app? I only received the phone like an hour ago but so far iam very happy! No issues etc I was just uninstalling some apps however and was quiet please that theres very little bloatware but the one remaining app i want to delete 'Facebook' cannot be deleted! Why? The facebook app was always an app that was up to the user wether they wanted it or not! After all..... not everyone uses facebook and not everyone wants to use the app so why force it on us with no option to uninstall?
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Do you have an unlocked S8 or a sim-locked one?
If the latter, Facebook app could be part of the bloatware installed by your carrier.
Download BK package disabler (samsung ) from the play store. The app can remove system apps without root. Btw Facebook wasn't system app on my S8 I can easily delete from my phone.
AT&Tsucks said:
Download BK package disabler (samsung ) from the play store. The app can remove system apps without root. Btw Facebook wasn't system app on my S8 I can easily delete from my phone.
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How do I know which version of the S8 comes with Facebook and similar apps pre-installed?
So, since we don't have root, any ideas on how to delete bloat?
Granted the G6 isn't TOO terrible, I've definitely seen worse. There are still a handful of apps I wouldn't mind purging.
(Seriously, Facebook pre-installed? Lolz)
Any clue? Any tip? There's only so much I can disable.
SolarisSixth said:
So, since we don't have root, any ideas on how to delete bloat?
Granted the G6 isn't TOO terrible, I've definitely seen worse. There are still a handful of apps I wouldn't mind purging.
(Seriously, Facebook pre-installed? Lolz)
Any clue? Any tip? There's only so much I can disable.
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Just got my G6 & am in the same boat. So used to Titanium Backup to de-bloat. For now I think we are stuck disabling what we can & hope root comes soon.
On my H870DS, facebook, instagram and that sort of BS was uninstallable. I got rid of them the minute I switched on the G6.
SolarisSixth said:
So, since we don't have root, any ideas on how to delete bloat?
Granted the G6 isn't TOO terrible, I've definitely seen worse. There are still a handful of apps I wouldn't mind purging.
(Seriously, Facebook pre-installed? Lolz)
Any clue? Any tip? There's only so much I can disable.
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no root no debloat..
Only got LG bloat. Still want rid
Just disable what you can for now not much else to do :/
You can disable almost everything after use a command trough adb and few other passages with This app, tested my self, in this way i had the possibility to disable QMemo+.
I have a new vs988 on the way, will try to install that Disabler right away ☺
The app Killua96 pointed to seems to work fine on my G6 VS988. I followed the instructions for a non-rooted phone. A few clarifications:
-Don't bother setting up accounts or anything other than for getting your phone on the network and then running Play Store to download the app. In my case I ended up doing a factory reset, then DL'd the app.
-After the app is installed, follow the instructions to delete accounts -- you should only see the Google account listed (you have to give it your Google credentials when you run Play Store for the app)
-Go into Settings - Applications and disable GMail. When you entered Google credentials for Play Store it automatically shoves them into GMail. The fastboot command you run from your PC will error out if GMail is running, since it will see an existing account on the phone.
-Follow the app instructions, installing the minimal ADB/fastboot, running the couple of commands from your PC.
-When done, restart your phone, re-enable GMail, add whatever accounts you want.
I've used the app to disable a bunch of bloat (duplicate SMS apps, some VZW stuff I don't use, LG Health,...)
Be aware that if you have the Verizon VS988, it has DT Ignite hidden in the system apps. Fortunately, you can disable it.
Killua96 said:
You can disable almost everything after use a command trough adb and few other passages with This app, tested my self, in this way i had the possibility to disable QMemo+.
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I'll definitely check it out, but I'm a little concerned with giving device owner permission to some 3rf party app.
Are there instructions to change the owner back to default?
SolarisSixth said:
I'll definitely check it out, but I'm a little concerned with giving device owner permission to some 3rf party app.
Are there instructions to change the owner back to default?
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You can always uninstall it
I have the unlocked G6 that I bought here in the Netherlands. I am not so bothered by the LG apps, as some of it were usable, but It's annoying that apps like evernote, Google duo, sheets and slides can be removed.
You forgot to mention the ubiquitous Fookface crap that I personally have never used nor ever will use.
And ofc Chrome.
And Hangouts.
Hmm I could be here a long time.....
Killua96 said:
You can disable almost everything after use a command trough adb and few other passages with This app, tested my self, in this way i had the possibility to disable QMemo+.
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This worked great. Thanks for sharing.
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I really hope this phone gets rooted and perhaps a ROM. I came from the OnePlus 7 Pro and yikes! The stock s20 says it has 520 apps installed, which includes my usual apps. My OnePlus 7 Pro has my identical apps installed, and it is under 150 for system and user apps.
The phone is crazy fast, but it would be ridiculous with a semi-stock Android.
mycomputerisjunk said:
I really hope this phone gets rooted and perhaps a ROM. I came from the OnePlus 7 Pro and yikes! The stock s20 says it has 520 apps installed, which includes my usual apps. My OnePlus 7 Pro has my identical apps installed, and it is under 150 for system and user apps.
The phone is crazy fast, but it would be ridiculous with a semi-stock Android.
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You can uninstall the apps with ADB.
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Here is how to do it without root access, maybe Samsung and OnePlus count differently?
Disabled apps
You can use adb or if you are lazy like me, you can buy a package disabler for 3€.
The apps I disabled are in the attach. You can disable more for better battery, but I still want the Samsung experience.
Maybe someone can suggest more apps that can be disabled without touching the Samsung experience.
I recommend using CCSWE App Manager rather than deleting via adb. You get the same effect, but if you need to restore an app/service, all you have to do is toggle a button, which is much more convenient than using adb.
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I recommend using CCSWE App Manager rather than deleting via adb. You get the same effect, but if you need to restore an app/service, all you have to do is toggle a button, which is much more convenient than using adb.
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Hi,
Do you happen to have a list of what you disabled using CCSWE that's safe
and/or not needed for a smooth setup. CCSWE has color coded system files
in red, are these safe to disable????
Ken
kenfb1 said:
Hi,
Do you happen to have a list of what you disabled using CCSWE that's safeand/or not needed for a smooth setup. CCSWE has color coded system files in red, are these safe to disable????
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All system files are potentially dangerous to disable/uninstall.
I disabled the following with no issues whatsoever:
Bixby routines
Bixby voice
Bixby voice stub
Briefing
(Samsung) Calendar
(Samsung) Contacts
Facebook
Facebook app installer
Facebook app manager
Facebook services
Game launcher
(Samsung) Launcher
Messages
Netflix
Samsung Daily
Samsung Galaxy friends
Samsung Internet
Smasung Internet panel
SmartThings
Voice wake-up
Obviously, if you use any of those apps/services, then don't disable them. I use Google Calendar & Google Contacts, so the Samsung versions are unnecessary. And I use Pulse SMS, so no need for Messages app.
sublimaze said:
All system files are potentially dangerous to disable/uninstall.
I disabled the following with no issues whatsoever:
Bixby routines
Bixby voice
Bixby voice stub
Briefing
(Samsung) Calendar
(Samsung) Contacts
Facebook
Facebook app installer
Facebook app manager
Facebook services
Game launcher
(Samsung) Launcher
Messages
Netflix
Samsung Daily
Samsung Galaxy friends
Samsung Internet
Smasung Internet panel
SmartThings
Voice wake-up
Obviously, if you use any of those apps/services, then don't disable them. I use Google Calendar & Google Contacts, so the Samsung versions are unnecessary. And I use Pulse SMS, so no need for Messages app.
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Thanks,
I'll give them a try,
Ken
It seems like I get longer Battery life after completely wiping everything related to Google (Including Google Play/Mobile Services) with root (I was already. It isn't worth it to root just to degoogle your phone as you can remove most google packages with tha adb shell uninstall command. But with root you can wipe every single one of them). Is this possible (I think yes as there is no Google Services running in the background all the time. No location services, no Google Play, no Mobile Services or Google Synchronization......)? Should I post a tutorial?
Your thoughts?
JanBoyGamer23 said:
It seems like I get longer Battery life after completely wiping everything related to Google (Including Google Play/Mobile Services) with root. Is this possible (I think yes as there is no Google Services running in the background all the time. No location services, no Google Play, no Mobile Services or Google Synchronization......)? Should I post a tutorial?
Your thoughts?
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Hi...i don't think it makes sense to root it for that..you can disable all off with CCSWE or Package Disabler apk and enable it on again if necessary .... and as for the battery, it will certainly last a bit longer without Google service... if you already have a turorial ready, why not ...
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Xode said:
Hi...i don't think it makes sense to root it for that..you can disable all off with CCSWE or Package Disabler apk and enable it on again if necessary .... and as for the battery, it will certainly last a bit longer without Google service... if you already have a turorial ready, why not ...
S20U Exynos
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I was already rooted. It would be really stupid to just to remove some apps as you can remove most of them with adb.
JanBoyGamer23 said:
I was already rooted. It would be really stupid to just to remove some apps as you can remove most of them with adb.
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Exactly , and that's another example that doesn't need root for something like that...and that stupidity has nothing to do with this case ... anyone can do whatever they want with their device ... it was my opinion that you suggested in the OP.. [emoji6]
S20U Exynos
Play services tends to use more than it should for battery on ANY device and disabling it will definately help with battery life. The hit in battery is just the sacrifice you make to run ANY app that utilizes play services (not just google apps, and more than one would think).
I debloat and remove a lot of useless sh*t using adb appcontrol.
Player04 said:
I debloat and remove a lot of useless sh*t using adb appcontrol.
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I think app control only disables the package. Correct me if I'm wrong.
For a full removal I recommend the adb uninstall command it goes:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 [PackageNameHere]
You can use an app like package names viewer 2.0 to get the package names
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I removed only the stuff that I am absolutely certain I will never need, like Facebook and kids crap. The rest is disabled via CCSWE App Manager.
You can do whatever you like. Just make a list of everything you remove, in case you need to reinstall something later.
if it is rooted, make backups of the apps with Titanium. Disabling it doesn't do much good because they will still be on the device. Crap is Crap, delete it...
JanBoyGamer23 said:
I think app control only disables the package. Correct me if I'm wrong.
For a full removal I recommend the adb uninstall command it goes:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 [PackageNameHere]
You can use an app like package names viewer 2.0 to get the package names
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As far as I understand it only removes it from user 0, the primary user, but still persists, although it´s not actiated. If an app is locked, you can´t uninstall it entirely. On the other hand, I understand that you can still make the official updates when doing it this way.
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It seems like I get longer Battery life after completely wiping everything related to Google (Including Google Play/Mobile Services) with root (I was already. It isn't worth it to root just to degoogle your phone as you can remove most google packages with tha adb shell uninstall command. But with root you can wipe every single one of them). Is this possible (I think yes as there is no Google Services running in the background all the time. No location services, no Google Play, no Mobile Services or Google Synchronization......)? Should I post a tutorial?
Your thoughts?
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If you haven´t tried it already, try to install PCAPdroid and see how many apps are trying to connect to some server somewhere all the time without any benefit for you. Although I knew I was beeing monitored at a very detailed level, I was still shocked. Now I got it under control with NetGuard, an other app I can recommend. The paid version of NetGuard also comes with a simple network log (not straight forward to configure, but works fine). It´s some very handy tools.
The point is, of course you can save battery if you uninstall all those abusive apps that constantly uses your CPU and Internet connection. I don´t know how much, but some you can save.