Use Facebook Without Messenger App (Android Phones) Newest Version - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General

Just wanted to share with you guys a pretty easy way to use Facebook without actually using Messenger, no root needed as well. I am using latest beta and works fine.
This should work on all Android devices.
1) Download newest facebook version if you haven't
2) Download Messenger yes it's needed but don't turn it on at all
3) Download from Playstore Superlock Package Disabler (activate it as an admin: to let it block apps) using it you can also block bunch of bloat
4) in Package Disabler block messenger
5) Profit! facebook will now open regular chat instead of using "messenger"
Let me know how it goes for yall

Or you just install the first version of FB messenger and never open it or even sign in and continue using Facebook like normal. Just turn off auto update for that app in the play store app. It's a lot smaller than the new messenger.apk and doesn't require a third party app. There is a thread in the main apps forum.

I just made a shortcut for fb for Google Chrome on my launcher. That way Facebook isn't running all the damn time in the background

bbeelzebub how do you install an earlier version? every time I try to install it, it asks if I would like to install an update to the built in application and then fails. do I have a wrong apk file or should I do something different. im running 5.0.1

sexfreak said:
bbeelzebub how do you install an earlier version? every time I try to install it, it asks if I would like to install an update to the built in application and then fails. do I have a wrong apk file or should I do something different. im running 5.0.1
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Here is the one I used. I just installed like normal, went into the play store like I'm going to update and long pressed the menu key. Up comes the option to turn off auto updates for that app. Unchecked it. Then I went into the app menu on my phone and disabled notifications for the app period.
Hasn't bothered me since and I use FB for all my messaging needs without using messenger. I've never even opened the app. Make sure you uninstall any version of messenger you may have previously installed.

so far it worked great. hopefully it wont force me to upgrade thanks
Do you know of a way to take messenger and facebook out of google play so it wont update? I used to use TI backup but now I cant use that.

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sexfreak said:
so far it worked great. hopefully it wont force me to upgrade thanks
Do you know of a way to take messenger and facebook out of google play so it wont update? I used to use TI backup but now I cant use that.
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Go to the app in the play store where it gives you the option to update, long press the left capacitive button on the bottom, up should pop a men to disable autoupdate for that app.

many thanks

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Disable market autoupdate notifications ?

I am using the latest market (3.0.something, i believe).
It will not stop notifying me to update applications.
I do not want to update these applications.
There is no option to disable notifications like in the old market
I can also not find market autoupdate bulk toggle in the market
I would like to disable these notifications. How would I do so ?
I would like to know this as well. It keeps reminding me to update facebook but I dont like the new version and refuse to update to it.
i dont think there is a way of disabling the notification, you would just have to ignore it unfortunately !
@dkyle. whats wrong with the latest update of Facebook ? mines working fine !
bbbbqq said:
I can also not find market autoupdate bulk toggle in the market
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batch toggle of Market autoupdates can be done with Titanium Backup - definitely in Pro verison, not sure about free - just go to Menu / More / Market Autoupdates
You can always use tasker so you never have to see the notifications
From something awesome
the older one... free i guess....
menu/settings/..booom....!
Greenie-UK said:
i dont think there is a way of disabling the notification, you would just have to ignore it unfortunately !
@dkyle. whats wrong with the latest update of Facebook ? mines working fine !
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I just don't like the looks of it compared to the one before it. It seemed to work alright on mine but I don't like the way it looks like the mobile site now.
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anyone ? Can't find anything else on the internet about this.
If you are running Market version 2.3.6 or under, the notifications can be disabled via Market --> Settings --> Notifications --> "Do not notify me".
I'm not sure about Market versions higher than this, as I do not want to deal with the latest market version layout. So you could roll-back or just re-sign the Facebook apk or whatever apk you don't want updated (Signapktic is a android app that would do this easy for you) and re-install it (you must uninstall the original before the resigned will install). The re-signed app won't show up in the market then.
The last option (again, tested on 2.3.6 and lower) is to manually edit the Market database file, under "/data/data/com.android.vending/databases/assets.db". All your installed apps will be listed under the "assests 10" table and you can remove them from there and push it back to your phone. The Facebook app or what app you delete from that file will not show up as installed in the Market anymore. The database will be regenerated whenever you clear the Market cache though.
Hope this helps,
-Mike
EDIT: Sorry for the redundancy, just re-read your post and saw that you are running the latest market and already looked at the settings. One of my other two options should fix the problem for ya though.

Pre-installed Facebook App on Note 4

After disabling the built in Facebook application using the Application Manager, I noticed it somehow automatically updated itself and no longer appeared in the Disabled apps list. It's crazy enough I have deal with unwanted pre-loaded applications I won't use but having something on my device that's re-enabling a specific application I disabled and automatically updating it is unacceptable to me. I'd like for someone who also owns this device to try the same thing and letting me know your observation.
Yeah, it's re-enabled itself twice on me already. At this point, since I've not yet rooted my phone, I unfortunately am letting it remain installed & updating, even though I have no facebook account (anymore)
You have to disable the face book messenger too or it still has its hooks in your phone. I disabled it on day 1 and no problems at all for me
Dvanzutphenkann said:
You have to disable the face book messenger too or it still has its hooks in your phone. I disabled it on day 1 and no problems at all for me
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Both were disabled at the same time. The Facebook Messenger has stayed disabled.
xtype85 said:
Both were disabled at the same time. The Facebook Messenger has stayed disabled.
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Wow hasn't happened here yet, I'll report back if it does
Get root access, first of all.
Get Root Explorer.
Navigate to root > system > app > find Facebook and delete it.
xtype85 said:
Both were disabled at the same time. The Facebook Messenger has stayed disabled.
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Ok so it happened to me when I connected to WiFi so I turned off the automatic updates in play store settings and it shouldn't happen again.
Dvanzutphenkann said:
Ok so it happened to me when I connected to WiFi so I turned off the automatic updates in play store settings and it shouldn't happen again.
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I also had that disabled within the Play Store but a new Software Update was just released that states it improves performance and has some bug fixes so I'll try disabling it again after applying this update.
Even if you disable an app, it will ask you to update it. If you update it, it will activate again. Make sure to disable auto-updating and when updating apps, just dont update that one.
Why is facebook even forcefully on our phone...not only do we have to deal with manufacturer bloat, carrier bloat, now facebook bloat?!?!?!
mgbotoe said:
Why is facebook even forcefully on our phone...not only do we have to deal with manufacturer bloat, carrier bloat, now facebook bloat?!?!?!
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I'm sure Sammy made some serious coin for that facecrook bloat
Dvanzutphenkann said:
I'm sure Sammy made some serious coin for that facecrook bloat
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Thank god for root
mgbotoe said:
Thank god for root
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Yeah, eventually I'll go that route I'm just not in a rush to do it. But amen for root! How have you been BTW?
devynbf said:
Get root access, first of all.
Get Root Explorer.
Navigate to root > system > app > find Facebook and delete it.
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Be sure to also remove it from /data/app too.
mgbotoe said:
Thank god for root
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I wasn't going to root to test out how KNOX due to using my phone for work but FB pissed me off with always updating even though i disabled it and i finally said "F That" and rooted.
All preinstalled apps can do this.
It's because the play-store app has to be restarted once to get the application off from the updates list.
The pending update will raise the application even if it was disabled.
I had this happen with play magazines and movies. They kept coming back and there always was an update for them as i kept reverting them to
original state while disabling them.
So kill play store from the task manager after disabling an app. This has nothing to do with facebook.
devynbf said:
Get root access, first of all.
Get Root Explorer.
Navigate to root > system > app > find Facebook and delete it.
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Thanks and how would a non tech person get the Root Access or is it already on the Notebook
baz1ll said:
Thanks and how would a non tech person get the Root Access or is it already on the Notebook
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If you are going to jump down the rabbit whole of rooting and flashing custom ROMs you definitely have some reading to do.
Here is your root thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55989825
EASY STEPS >>> STOCK ODIN N910TUVU1COD6 -> CF-ROOT -> TWRP RECOVERY -> FIX -> Done!
Also the noon friendly thread is your partner use it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57723283
[HELP THREAD] Samsung Note 4 T-Mobile ~| Noob Friendly |~| All Questions Welcome |~
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Facebook auto,updates
This same thing happens to me. I have an AT&T version of Galaxy Note Edge. No root exists for this miserable $1,000 piece of crap phone.
My play settings are set to NOT auto update.
Facebook comes as a system app on this phone.
Can't root it, so can't get rid of it. Constantly auto updates, disabling the Facebook chat enabler, which doesn't require the separate messenger app. The chat enabler doesn't work with newer versions, so every day I have to go to the app manager and Uninstall updates to FB. Doesn't prompt for updates, just does it. Can't revert back to Kit-Kat on the phone because it bricks the phone.
@$&#%?☆~¿*¥
talon1812 said:
This same thing happens to me. I have an AT&T version of Galaxy Note Edge. No root exists for this miserable $1,000 piece of crap phone.
My play settings are set to NOT auto update.
Facebook comes as a system app on this phone.
Can't root it, so can't get rid of it. Constantly auto updates, disabling the Facebook chat enabler, which doesn't require the separate messenger app. The chat enabler doesn't work with newer versions, so every day I have to go to the app manager and Uninstall updates to FB. Doesn't prompt for updates, just does it. Can't revert back to Kit-Kat on the phone because it bricks the phone.
@$&#%?☆~¿*¥
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lol never get an ATT device if you ever want root

Uninstalling Google Chrome

I wasnt entirely sure of where exactly i should put this, the dev board would probably be a better choice, but i digress.
Uninstalling the Chrome app through Titanium Backup(and im sure through any other method) causes some apps such as kik messenger and snapchat to be ENTIRELY unusable. They will instantly crash upon opening conversations. I am unsure as to why this happens but i figured it would be useful information for someone else eventually.
EDIT: Doing this also causes battery to go from 100% to 0 in about four hours
Can I ask why uninstall chrome then? Just don't use it or hide it from your app drawer. A lot easier than trying to figure out the issues caused by removing it. It would be the same thing
aholeinthewor1d said:
Can I ask why uninstall chrome then? Just don't use it or hide it from your app drawer. A lot easier than trying to figure out the issues caused by removing it. It would be the same thing
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Well i just didnt want it on my system and i didnt know about the issue beforehand and ive never seen that happen before. Figuring it out actually happened because i thought it was caused by something else after i flashed stock and fixed it.
You need to enable Android/Google WebView (I can't remember the name) in the app settings/play store and go into the developer settings and set the WebView to the new one you enabled. I sadly learned this the hard way like you.
mrjiggywiggy said:
You need to enable Android/Google WebView (I can't remember the name) in the app settings/play store and go into the developer settings and set the WebView to the new one you enabled. I sadly learned this the hard way like you.
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One of my friends talked about how most apps use chrome for webview n i was wondering if there was a way to replace it thanks
Found it on google play but the app is still disabled in settings and the enable button is greyed out?
KittyRgnarok said:
Found it on google play but the app is still disabled in settings and the enable button is greyed out?
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That's weird. Is it greyed out in the play store too or just in settings? If it is try going into Titanium Backup and unfreeze(?) it there. If that doesn't work uninstall it like you did with chrome and download it from the play store.
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That's weird. Is it greyed out in the play store too or just in settings? If it is try going into Titanium Backup and unfreeze(?) it there. If that doesn't work uninstall it like you did with chrome and download it from the play store.
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Huh it was low level frozen on the system, defrost through titanium backup doesn't seem to do anything which now raises the question: how and why is that done?
Gonna try uninstalling it and installing through play again.
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That's weird. Is it greyed out in the play store too or just in settings? If it is try going into Titanium Backup and unfreeze(?) it there. If that doesn't work uninstall it like you did with chrome and download it from the play store.
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Play store said Enable(the button was seemingly unresponsive until i clicked it abt 15 times in a row) clicking it causes a 44mb download then it says install which causes a 44mb download and changes it back to a completely unresponsive enable. switching over to settings now only shows a greyed out uninstall and force stop
You're free to do what you want of course, but ripping one of the central tie points out a Google phone is not what I wold call a good idea. Easy to run a different browser if that's your preference without destroying the integrity of the base software.
DigitalMD said:
You're free to do what you want of course, but ripping one of the central tie points out a Google phone is not what I wold call a good idea. Easy to run a different browser if that's your preference without destroying the integrity of the base software.
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Before finding this problem it was unknown to me and im sure several others that chrome was an integral part of the rom.The point of this thread was really to find out what this is and if there is a way around it. its for experimentation purposes as it is honestly incredibly easy to fix, ive done it 4 times.
Not sure why you're having trouble. I uninstalled Chrome with Titanium Backup and after rebooting AOSP WebView was unfrozen and active automatically.
fritzgerald said:
Not sure why you're having trouble. I uninstalled Chrome with Titanium Backup and after rebooting AOSP WebView was unfrozen and active automatically.
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Huh weird guess mine just ****ed up
I just go to system/app/chrome and delete the apk, been doing that since the first day I had the pixel, not a fan of chrome, I use firefox nightly
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piperx said:
I just go to system/app/chrome and delete the apk, been doing that since the first day I had the pixel, not a fan of chrome, I use firefox nightly
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Would that work? I might try it later. I just recently found tugabrowser and i love it so thats what im usin
KittyRgnarok said:
Would that work? I might try it later. I just recently found tugabrowser and i love it so thats what im usin
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Never had a problem with stock or custom roms
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dylancooper300 said:
You can try to follow such steps:
Open Task Manager. Find Google Chrome in it.
Click on Chrome and look through the pull-down menu. Verify that all the processes are chosen.
Right-click on Google Chrome and choose the option “End Task”.
Check the “Processes tab" and make sure that there are no leftover processes. If there are any, you need to stop them by right-clicking on them and choosing the option “End task”.
Close Task Manager.
Open a “Run window”. To do this, you need to press “Windows Key+R”.
You need to type here “appwiz.cpl” and press Enter. You’ll open “Program and Features”.
Here, you need to scroll down the list and choose Google Chrome.
Right-click on it and press “Uninstall”.
Also, you can check this link rocketfiles.comto read more options
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Bro we're talking about a phone here...

Facebook app cant be uninstalled?

Why the hell can i not uninstall the facebook app? I only received the phone like an hour ago but so far iam very happy! No issues etc I was just uninstalling some apps however and was quiet please that theres very little bloatware but the one remaining app i want to delete 'Facebook' cannot be deleted! Why? The facebook app was always an app that was up to the user wether they wanted it or not! After all..... not everyone uses facebook and not everyone wants to use the app so why force it on us with no option to uninstall?
Blaalad12 said:
Why the hell can i not uninstall the facebook app? I only received the phone like an hour ago but so far iam very happy! No issues etc I was just uninstalling some apps however and was quiet please that theres very little bloatware but the one remaining app i want to delete 'Facebook' cannot be deleted! Why? The facebook app was always an app that was up to the user wether they wanted it or not! After all..... not everyone uses facebook and not everyone wants to use the app so why force it on us with no option to uninstall?
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That's odd, mine came without Facebook installed. Are you on any provider-customized phone?
joeyvanhummel said:
That's odd, mine came without Facebook installed. Are you on any provider-customized phone?
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No mine is factory unlocked! Ironically theres very little bloatware on this device in comparison to previous devices! Iam impressed!! Facebook is probably the only app pre installed that i don't want but sadly i cannot uninstall it
I think Facebook is part of operating system installed on the phone, so it's kind of permanent, but you can disable it and that was the first thing I did on my phone. However for some strange reason facebook installation manager is used by Oculus to install it's VR applications and since my kids use VR to play sometimes, I had to enable it back, but facebook application itself can be disabled.
pete4k said:
I think Facebook is part of operating system installed on the phone, so it's kind of permanent, but you can disable it and that was the first thing I did on my phone. However for some strange reason facebook installation manager is used by Oculus to install it's VR applications and since my kids use VR to play sometimes, I had to enable it back, but facebook application itself can be disabled.
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Thats strange! I guess its no big deal! Id rather have it uninstalled but i will just disable it and download an alternative for facebook instead! Are you saying that if i want to use VR that i have to enable it again though??
Blaalad12 said:
No mine is factory unlocked! Ironically theres very little bloatware on this device in comparison to previous devices! Iam impressed!! Facebook is probably the only app pre installed that i don't want but sadly i cannot uninstall it
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Almost all samsung apps were indeed uninstallable this time around, which impressed me, too. I think if you really wanted to get rid of FB, you'd have to root your phone and delete the APK from the system partition.
just disable it, it's better than nothing
Yeah I was pretty puzzled too. Weird that they have Facebook as a system app.
Blaalad12 said:
Thats strange! I guess its no big deal! Id rather have it uninstalled but i will just disable it and download an alternative for facebook instead! Are you saying that if i want to use VR that i have to enable it again though??
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There are 2 Facebook apps on my phone: Facebook app installer and Facebook app manager, you can disable manager but keep the installer for Oculus to work. BTW you won't see the installer until you enable system apps.
I rarely use facebook, but when I do I use it on either chrome or the samsung browser. I use it in facebook mobile mode, but when I want to check any messages I have to switch over to desktop mode as mobile mode will prompt to install facebook messenger. Bottom line, you don't need the facebook app to use facebook, use chrome or samsung browser (lately I am finding I like samsung internet better as it seems to make text the proper size to be more easily readable and also you can add an extension to sync your chrome bookmarks and history to the samsung internet browser) - anyway, use one of these browsers in mobile mode. The facebook app has too many permissions and location following for my tastes. Eff that. I disable it with package disabler pro.
Facebook is needed to do VR. If it's not enabled oculus doesn't launch.
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I can still uninstall it completely.
Can not lot into fb or messenger on brand new s8+ but can log into them on other devices. ..any tips how to log into them on my s8+
I use fb so it's no big deal for me BUT SKYPE? Why does it have to be installed...
NeedleGames said:
I use fb so it's no big deal for me BUT SKYPE? Why does it have to be installed...
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Because Samsung gets a back hander from them
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surfer1000 said:
Because Samsung gets a back hander from them
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It looks like Samsung made deals with companies which are kinda like enemies to each other. For example messaging apps:
Google - CHECK
Facebook - CHECK
Microsoft- CHECK
Samsung - CHECK
Blaalad12 said:
Why the hell can i not uninstall the facebook app? I only received the phone like an hour ago but so far iam very happy! No issues etc I was just uninstalling some apps however and was quiet please that theres very little bloatware but the one remaining app i want to delete 'Facebook' cannot be deleted! Why? The facebook app was always an app that was up to the user wether they wanted it or not! After all..... not everyone uses facebook and not everyone wants to use the app so why force it on us with no option to uninstall?
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A friend called me using facebook on pc and asked me to help him call a taxi to his home and he told me the address cos his phone was dead and he couldnt call. I ended the FB call and called my usual taxi number (gsmcall) . Ususally, someone picks up and asks where you want the taxi... But instead i get computer voice saying "press 3 if you need taxi for "my friend's address" I didnt give anyone the address and it wasnt even written. but somehow the computer knew where i wanted to call taxi for. I ended the call without speaking to anyone cos it was strange and later i received sms that taxi was waiting. A taxi lady called to tell me my taxi was waiting then i asked her how they sent taxi to me without me giving her the address. she ignored my question and told me taxi is waiting.. then the taxi guy left.
It was scary..
So i went to my facebook app and messenger app to check the app permissions (there are so many permissions granted to facebook without your permission and you dont have access to disable it.. "like record your calls without your knowledge, and many more.."
i found this paid appp "advanced permission remover" it helps u view all those permissions you dont have access to and dissable them, the app creates new apk and the you uninstall the one you have before installing the new app.
But i get error message that "app cant be installed because its conflicting with app that have the same name" both fb and messenger...
I found a way to unistall facebook from system using computer without rooting my Note 8 which i can tell you but it didnt help. After uninstalling, I still cant install my modified fb app. It still says app is conflicting and when i install from playstore, atleast to have it as user app not system app. the facebook app installs itself back to system and you cant uninstall. So you have to do the whole process again using pc if you dont want it
i dont know why FB has to be a system app and the rate at which facebook spys on you is ridiculous.. if you having a discussion about someone and your phone is close to you. after a period of time, that person shows up as friend suggestion..
pls suggest a good third party app to use instead of the main facebook app
Uninstalling system app using pc
use this tutorial on this link
http://en.miui.com/thread-709494-1-1.html
Blaalad12 said:
Why the hell can i not uninstall the facebook app? I only received the phone like an hour ago but so far iam very happy! No issues etc I was just uninstalling some apps however and was quiet please that theres very little bloatware but the one remaining app i want to delete 'Facebook' cannot be deleted! Why? The facebook app was always an app that was up to the user wether they wanted it or not! After all..... not everyone uses facebook and not everyone wants to use the app so why force it on us with no option to uninstall?
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Do you have an unlocked S8 or a sim-locked one?
If the latter, Facebook app could be part of the bloatware installed by your carrier.
Download BK package disabler (samsung ) from the play store. The app can remove system apps without root. Btw Facebook wasn't system app on my S8 I can easily delete from my phone.
AT&Tsucks said:
Download BK package disabler (samsung ) from the play store. The app can remove system apps without root. Btw Facebook wasn't system app on my S8 I can easily delete from my phone.
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How do I know which version of the S8 comes with Facebook and similar apps pre-installed?

Facebook System Apps

Why do we need all the Facebook apps?
I have never had a mobile phone before thats had all these additional apps installed. I have always just installed the Facebook app.
So what exactly are these needed for?
They can only be disabled and not uninstalled.
Darkat70 said:
Why do we need all the Facebook apps?
I have never had a mobile phone before thats had all these additional apps installed. I have always just installed the Facebook app.
So what exactly are these needed for?
They can only be disabled and not uninstalled.
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I call that trash just like the rest of the bloatware since i got the snapdragon version no root for me i used package disabler pro to disable that i think you can use adb as well to uninstall it
Yep its all trash, according to some Google searching it appears that Samsung and Facebook struck a deal. Which is why they are system apps. I think we should still have the option for removal though , for those who don't use Facebook.
Maybe it should have a prompt when first setting up or a clean reset asking if you would like to install Facebook.

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