I'm trying to see if this is even possible but can't find much information. The information I've found doesn't make anything clear to me.
I installed a Joying 8.1 Intel SC9853i head unit into a 2009 Lincoln MKX (basically a Ford Edge) with a PAC RadioPRO4 Radio Replacement Interface RP4-FD11. Is the PAC unit a CAN Bus decoder? How can I get the vehicles information displayed onto the Joying screen? I see the CAN Bus settings in the menu but don't know what options to select and where to go from here. Any help is appreciated!
ProBird79 said:
I'm trying to see if this is even possible but can't find much information. The information I've found doesn't make anything clear to me.
I installed a Joying 8.1 Intel SC9853i head unit into a 2009 Lincoln MKX (basically a Ford Edge) with a PAC RadioPRO4 Radio Replacement Interface RP4-FD11. Is the PAC unit a CAN Bus decoder? How can I get the vehicles information displayed onto the Joying screen? I see the CAN Bus settings in the menu but don't know what options to select and where to go from here. Any help is appreciated!
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Afaik the pac is just a steering wheel buttons retainer...it just keeps your stock steering wheel buttons (usually coded) and converts the coded signal into resistive signal.
It usually decodes reverse signal (for reverse camera), illumination signal (for atomatic day/light brigth) and specifoc stock amplifier as well.
Consult your manual of pac for more information.
For sure it is not compatible with the canbus settings of your joying radio. You need specific joying canbus for your car model
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ikerg said:
You need specific joying canbus for your car model
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I don't see one listed for my vehicle. Does that mean it's not possible to do?
ProBird79 said:
I don't see one listed for my vehicle. Does that mean it's not possible to do?
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Ask joying.
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Hello, I need the the version of MCU 5.3.17-13-14-253101-151110, I update my radio and he stop work's ( alfter update version of MCU is 5.3.18-98-10-E50201-160232.
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Hi,
I'm looking for some info about "carjoying.com/ in-dash-gps-navigation-system/ford-head-units/joying-best-android-4-4-4-kitkat-head-unit-quad-core-1024-600-double-din-7-inch-gps-navigation-system-16-gb-memory-support-steering-wheel-control-wifi-obd-airpaly.html"
My car is Ford Mondeo Mk4 2007 year. In description is stated that this device is compatible with Mondeo 2007-2010. I contacted with Joying and they sad that this device is NOT compatible with my car. I'm confused.
Did someone use joying device in Mondeo MK4?
dtrifonov said:
Hi,
I'm looking for some info about "carjoying.com/ in-dash-gps-navigation-system/ford-head-units/joying-best-android-4-4-4-kitkat-head-unit-quad-core-1024-600-double-din-7-inch-gps-navigation-system-16-gb-memory-support-steering-wheel-control-wifi-obd-airpaly.html"
My car is Ford Mondeo Mk4 2007 year. In description is stated that this device is compatible with Mondeo 2007-2010. I contacted with Joying and they sad that this device is NOT compatible with my car. I'm confused.
Did someone use joying device in Mondeo MK4?
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Hello
because now most of china OEM DVD Player factories can not resolve the ford Convers +problem ,their canbus can not work with the system ,so steering wheel control ,and convers+ information can not display on the dash ,that's why Joying can not support on your car . If you have Ford car ,when you want to buy a new DVD player ,better give a picture of your dashboard to the sellers ,and consult them about convers +
Hi,
I've sent them a picture of my dashboard and they said their device is not compatible with my car.
Obviously I'm going to buy an Eonon unit. Their devices at least have support for steering wheel.
Thank you for the help.
This video seems to be proof that some unit can talk with Converse+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXlzYQMlK7w
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This video seems to be proof that some unit can talk with Converse+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXlzYQMlK7w
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Resurrect an old thread. Interesting video, we don't know what the unit is or who the supplier is (both of the Canbus and Headunit)? Does anyone know what the current state of affairs is regarding Android 5.1 Headunits and Convers+ ?
sim36 said:
Resurrect an old thread. Interesting video, we don't know what the unit is or who the supplier is (both of the Canbus and Headunit)? Does anyone know what the current state of affairs is regarding Android 5.1 Headunits and Convers+ ?
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I'll second this 'bump' as I too am looking for a solution to get full Convers+ functionality with my Android head unit (Auto-Pumpkin in a Mondeo Mk4) :good:
Seems that the Convers+ issue has not been resolved yet....
on the Joying page there is a blog that clearly states:
And you can installed our Ford Special Car Radio directly in your Ford II (2008-2012), Mondeo (2007-2011), S-MAX (2008-2010). But all of our Android Car Radio cannot support the Ford Converse+ system.
I have seen youtube videos that show otherwise.
So what does support really mean in this case?
Bonairian said:
Seems that the Convers+ issue has not been resolved yet....
on the Joying page there is a blog that clearly states:
And you can installed our Ford Special Car Radio directly in your Ford II (2008-2012), Mondeo (2007-2011), S-MAX (2008-2010). But all of our Android Car Radio cannot support the Ford Converse+ system.
I have seen youtube videos that show otherwise.
So what does support really mean in this case?
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I have found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXXcxf1RFqk
The pre-facelift convers+ works with kitkat 4.4.4.
still says no convers+ ( i dont even know what that is), but I know there is a new 2GB unit for the Mondeo:
https://www.carjoying.com/new-andro...lollipop-gps-navigation-fm-am-rds-easy-c.html
I got Xtrons pf75fsfa 5.1 unit for my Mondeo mk4 2008. It works with steering wheel buttons, but not with display (i have small display, not converse).
The unit is working surpringsly well - radio reception is good, gps is fast, sound is much better than the oem cd6000.
I have some wishes for the software, but for now is perfect.
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I got Xtrons pf75fsfa 5.1 unit for my Mondeo mk4 2008. It works with steering wheel buttons, but not with display (i have small display, not converse).
The unit is working surpringsly well - radio reception is good, gps is fast, sound is much better than the oem cd6000.
I have some wishes for the software, but for now is perfect.
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What about phone control buttons?
My phone cotrol stalk not responding. Buttons are death. Only volume buttons, M-button and forward-backward buttons work.
:{ :[
I haven't phone buttons.
Do you have CANBus box?
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I haven't phone buttons.
Do you have CANBus box?
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Yes. I have canbus box attached to the HU wiring. But phone buttons are not recognized.
No idea where is the problem.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Mond...763400?hash=item28204f5b08:g:ZUYAAOSw-0xYehSK this HU I bought
this buttons doesnt work: http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/1LEAAOSwCU1Yq~YI/s-l225.jpg
I think that canbus box doesn't interpret them and they won't work.
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Yes. I have canbus box attached to the HU wiring. But phone buttons are not recognized.
No idea where is the problem.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Mond...763400?hash=item28204f5b08:g:ZUYAAOSw-0xYehSK this HU I bought
this buttons doesnt work: http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/1LEAAOSwCU1Yq~YI/s-l225.jpg
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I have the same problem with my head unit. The phone controls does not work. The volume buttons works. Is it possible with BOSION can bus will have a result? Does anyone have the BOSION can bus diagram for CAN-TX / RX?
Hi,
cant post in the mtcd forum unfortunately,
I can't get my steering wheel buttons to work in a bmw e46 on the following system:
i.imgur.com/s7fRws6.png
I've got a canbus box, Signal for Transmission in reverse is received by the HU.
but thats the only sign of anything canbus related working.
The Wheelkey Study app is empty:
i.imgur.com/rVbVWYj.png
Any advice?
Is it set to BMW in Canbus menu in Factory Settings menu?
Go into Settings.
scroll down
select "Factory Settings"
enter Password 126
Yep,
there are 2 kinds,
BMW
BMW electrical
I tried both, without result unfortunately.
thanks for your input
In my E38 steering wheel keys work when I set "no canbus" in mentioned settings.
Have you tried flashing latest firmware? I think your unit is KD, just like mine.
Only flash anything if you know what you are doing, I take no responsibility for bricked radio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68447984&postcount=346
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68414045&postcount=334
My Canbus setting is set to: 24 BMW (Union)
Hello,
I have this unit: RK-A701 http://www.goodluckbuy.com/images/ebay_rcshop2011_images/sku_122568_3.jpg and i need to know how to connect to the i-bus cable on my bmw e46
I have CAN TXD, CAN RXD, WC+(I think it's Key1) and WC2+(I think it's Key2). How can i connect this?
Thanks in advance
Hi guys i would ask your help. I have an Alfa Romeo Giulietta, Installed in the dash a nexus 7 2013 and I want use the steering wheel buttons. The car use the protocol is 15765-4 29bit and I have on Bluetooth obd reader. Can you please help me out? Thanks in advance.
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Hi All.
Anybody can help me with volume/canbus problem ?
I bought unit like in subject.
If i set can bus driver (Volkswagen -> compatible -> RZC(R_XP)_High ) then can't volume down/up.
Slider works but no sound control.
If i set can bus driver to none volume control backs.
Car is VW Golf V 2007 without multifunction wheel.
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Resolution: For VW Golf V set RZC(R_XP)_Low driver for canbus
And another one question.
what application is responsible for car image on the rear camera view (left side of the screen)? This is gone too
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Resolution: Turn on "Radar display" in settings
Thank you
Some info about device if anyone is thinking of buying it:
Unit is very fast and smooth.
Everything starts immediatelly with no any lag.
Very interesting is start of the unit. Is starting with 2-3 seconds Ofcourse no battery drain. Some kind of sleep ?
PS.
Sorry for my english
Canbus high is wrong.
Got a Touran 2007 and had to take the simple canbus setting in my erisin 3015.
Got no multi wheel too.
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makes2068 said:
Canbus high is wrong.
Got a Touran 2007 and had to take the simple canbus setting in my erisin 3015.
Got no multi wheel too.
Getapped and getalked with 6603
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Hi makes2068
Did you have problem with volume too ?
In my case volume not working bat can informations are presented in the app.
One time I got no sound at all.
Maybe it depends on the mcu. Try a different one that fits your unit and see what happens.
Getapped and getalked with 6603
Only one navigation app can be used simultaneously with music/radio....the one you configured under gps option in settings
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Thanks for the answers.
I play with the unit today.
makes2068 said:
Canbus high is wrong.
Got a Touran 2007 and had to take the simple canbus setting in my erisin 3015.
Got no multi wheel too.
Getapped and getalked with 6603
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makes2068 you have the right.
RZC(R_XP)_Low driver do the job
Thank you.
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Only one navigation app can be used simultaneously with music/radio....the one you configured under gps option in settings
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I tested today and you have right.
If i set navi app then i can listening radio/music with navigation running.
Thank you.
But what if i have two navigations (speed radar detector) and regular navi ?
But this is question for Joying developers...
Hello,I have a SEAT IBIZA 6L(2002 to 2008) and that model don't have canbus.
I need to use Steering Wheel Control Interface and I need your recomendation for my car.
I attach a image for my central dashboard.
Thanks a lot
Adrián
Polloloko said:
Hello,I have a SEAT IBIZA 6L(2002 to 2008) and that model don't have canbus.
I need to use Steering Wheel Control Interface and I need your recomendation for my car.
I attach a image for my central dashboard.
Thanks a lot
Adrián
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You need a universal model (and perhaps a frame adapter if your headunit fit is not a standard double din size) . Check on dasaita (Aliexpress) for the px5 Android 6 version.
Your steering wheel controls will be kept as they are resistive. You have to assign functions to each key into specific headunit app
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ikerg said:
Your steering wheel controls will be kept as they are resistive. You have to assign functions to each key into specific headunit app
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But some cars needs a special harness because I dont have canbus in my car.With my last radio of Alpine I need a harness to work with the steering wheel control.
Thanks
Common brands of headunits (Alpine, pioneer, Sony...) support specific resistance for the steering wheel signals. The can bus you mention converts the resistive ot coded signal (not in your case) into specific signal to be read by that brands.
The Android headunit I mentioned can grab the resistive signal (any).
In the case your car has can-bus coded steering wheel buttons..you can use the same can bus you used for the Alpine and the Android headunit will grab the signals coming from your can-bus box
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ikerg said:
Common brands of headunits (Alpine, pioneer, Sony...) support specific resistance for the steering wheel signals. The can bus you mention converts the resistive ot coded signal (not in your case) into specific signal to be read by that brands.
The Android headunit I mentioned can grab the resistive signal (any).
In the case your car has can-bus coded steering wheel buttons..you can use the same can bus you used for the Alpine and the Android headunit will grab the signals coming from your can-bus box
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Finally I bought a Erisin ES5086V https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Erisin-ES5086V-7-Car-GPS-8-Core-Android6-0-DAB-Radio-for-Passat-Polo-Jetta-Seat/32812973576.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.srxxFJ that is similar of Dasaita and send it to Spain.
I think that model I can change the fw and update like dasaita or similars.
Ahi la tenias:
https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...Golf-Transporter-with/600991_32804802271.html
ikerg said:
Ahi la tenias:
https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...Golf-Transporter-with/600991_32804802271.html
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Si pero por si acaso esa viene de China ( con su riesgo de aduanas ) y la que pedí viene de UK ,al vivir yo en la UE no me cobran tasas.
Gracias y un saludo
ikerg said:
You need a universal model (and perhaps a frame adapter if your headunit fit is not a standard double din size) . Check on dasaita (Aliexpress) for the px5 Android 6 version.
Your steering wheel controls will be kept as they are resistive. You have to assign functions to each key into specific headunit app
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@ikerg some vendors tell me that I need that adapter/harness ( http://www.connects2.com/Product/ProductItem/CTSST002.2 )
and other say that I don't adapter because the radio is also with Iso connector and can bus built in.
Thanks
Dont buy it at the moment.
Try the headunit when you receive it as it is.
If you can't use your steering wheel buttons, use the app to make the headunit learn the signals for steering wheel buttons.
If anything worked....then you have to buy a can-bus box.
But...if you still have your old can bus box you mentioned before (take some photos) you will (more than probably) to use it without buying anything else
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ikerg said:
Dont buy it at the moment.
Try the headunit when you receive it as it is.
If you can't use your steering wheel buttons, use the app to make the headunit learn the signals for steering wheel buttons.
If anything worked....then you have to buy a can-bus box.
But...if you still have your old can bus box you mentioned before (take some photos) you will (more than probably) to use it without buying anything else
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Ok when I receive the unit I try and I tell what happends.
Thanks a lot
ikerg said:
Dont buy it at the moment.
Try the headunit when you receive it as it is.
If you can't use your steering wheel buttons, use the app to make the headunit learn the signals for steering wheel buttons.
If anything worked....then you have to buy a can-bus box.
But...if you still have your old can bus box you mentioned before (take some photos) you will (more than probably) to use it without buying anything else
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I try to configure the butons with the app and try to configure but nothing works,the manual say yo Connect the two swc cables to anode and gnd to catode but not work or work bad.Any idea?
And another problem the unit not enter correctly in the car...I need to cut some plastics for the back of the console
I found that I needed to connect my Mazda 6 to Eincar head unit as follows:
EINCAR - SW1 goes to Mazda SW1
Eincar - SW2 left unconnected
Mazda SW2 connected to car chassis ground
The steering wheel resistor/switch network in my car had no ground connection, but the head unit was monitoring resistance to ground to detect button pushes. With no ground connection it always read infinite resistance and did nothing.
this was similar on my Honda.
From the Honda wiring harness, "REMOTE GND" (brown in my case) to ground; "REMOTE CTL" (green/red) to EinCar Key SW1 wire. EinCar Key SW2 wire left disconnected.
Is ZQ8003 the device I have?
It’s under about device in the menu in settings. Is that the so called “Model”?
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I have it, pin code for factory menu, or reboot to recovery is 0000.
ZQ8003 settings for Qashqai J11
Hello.
I've the same stereo unit for my Qashqai 2014 (J11), but i don't have any user manual for this stereo.
I ask your help please on how can i configure this stereo unit for my car, because it came with a canbus but i don't know what are the correct settings for making the steering wheel controls working.
regards.
P.S.: i've some photos but i can't post them here...
SoniPedro said:
Hello.
I've the same stereo unit for my Qashqai 2014 (J11), but i don't have any user manual for this stereo.
I ask your help please on how can i configure this stereo unit for my car, because it came with a canbus but i don't know what are the correct settings for making the steering wheel controls working.
regards.
P.S.: i've some photos but i can't post them here...
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You may get it working but good luck finding updates. I bought a new android deck.
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But do you have any user manual of this model?
Or, can you help with the correct config settings of the canbus (P/N.: DF-RZ-02) or other settings of this stereo unit?
Thanks
SoniPedro said:
But do you have any user manual of this model?
Or, can you help with the correct config settings of the canbus (P/N.: DF-RZ-02) or other settings of this stereo unit?
Thanks
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No unfortunately not. It was installed in my used VW when I bought it. It runs on Windows Platform that’s all I know.
For 100.00 you can get yourself a new android unit from alibaba. Sorry this is bad advice but that’s why I have up and bought a new one. I looked everywhere and the most I found were some sites in russia selling this unit.
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SoniPedro said:
Hello.
I've the same stereo unit for my Qashqai 2014 (J11), but i don't have any user manual for this stereo.
I ask your help please on how can i configure this stereo unit for my car, because it came with a canbus but i don't know what are the correct settings for making the steering wheel controls working.
regards.
P.S.: i've some photos but i can't post them here...
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Go to car settings > factory settings > 0000 and it's the second line I guess, it's the one the has CAN on the text. Inside that sub menu, choose Nissan