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Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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luiferulz said:
Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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That isn't official. Official is from LG directly.
This is so far away from official like seeing flying pigs.. Could be true or not.
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Just think about it. Do you really think that LG will say officaly: "NO NOUGAT UPDATE FOR OUR 1.5 YEARS OLD PHONE". It would be a really good advertisement for them! Lets be critical. It's the same like if they said: Buy our current flagship - G6 and you will get terrible support, bad build quality, bootloop problem after a year, you will loose all your date when we change phones motherboard, you will wait many days and finally you will probably stuck on 7.1.1 forever. It's almost on 100% that LG G4 won't get Nougat update. All what they need is to sell new models. That is what keeps them alive. Building a new system for almost 2 years old phone is nonsense, it is, it cost money. We need to earn money, not spend money. If you want Nougat, buy LG G5 or get G6. Thats it. But many people will buy from another phone manofacturer next time after this. LG is digging it's own grave for a long time.
We barely started March dude... If you had any Asus you'd see what's slow. Just wait and if they don't deliver too bad. The phone is not that bad as it is since it's a terrible chip
Wow LG seems like they really don't like the G4 considering they are leaving it on the same Android version as it's predecessor G3. I bought this phone as a budget alternative to buying the galaxy A5 2016 .... At least the LG G4 has good custom ROM support so I'll just install lineage os if LG really decides to ditch this phone. But I'm still disappointed to see this phone only get one update in its lifetime.
Edit : *only one major update
Also: even comparing LG to other companies like Sony... Their whole z5 series including z5, premium and compact just got the 7.0 update
luiferulz said:
Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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Until it's not from official LG sources, readable on their homepage or blog, i would say it's not official. It's just guessing...
Official??? you are crazy
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
LG V10 is already confirmed by T-mobile.
About the LG G4, no official info ... do not believe in support that often does not have communication with the development team
braulio_holtz said:
Official??? you are crazy
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
LG V10 is already confirmed by T-mobile.
About the LG G4, no official info ... do not believe in support that often does not have communication with the development team
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So you're going to trust a carrier over the manufacturer?
The official line seems to be that the Nougat update for the G4 and V10 was abandoned as it wasn't stable enough for release. If you choose to believe any other source then I'm afraid you're set to be disappointed.
It's time to move on.
i imagine this on a balance.. one side how much they would spent on 7.0 development vs the other people moving away from LG.
what a re you toughts do they loose more money at developing a g4 that should be able to handle 7.0 asn the nexus 5x has nougat.
or all the people that will get angry and dissapointed. as we still in the 2 year update cycle.??
Let's make dozens of topics with the same posts. It is not over until the fat lady sings. Let's suffocate this topic, LG deserves it. Wait, only users that actually look for useful information will find it difficult with all these topics. Just my 2 (euro) cents.
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Let's make dozens of topics with the same posts. It is not over until the fat lady sings. Let's suffocate this topic, LG deserves it. Wait, only users that actually look for useful information will find it difficult with all these topics. Just my 2 (euro) cents.
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Agree
F u c k i n g b a s t a r d s !
I`m so sick of LG`s ****:
My LG G2 display not responding so I got LG G4 instead of buying a new display for LG G2
My LG G4 problems:
1. the BOOTLOOP
2. display burn in (ghosting)
3. battery after 10% phone dies
4. mobile data on and no signal = phone goes crazy touches all over the screen
5. the plastic back falls
6. and now no update for Nougat? wtf. LG?
The LG G6? I love it but after my history whit LG i`m so so so disappointed
sorry for the unorthodox words....
I must say I don't care much about 7.0/7.1. The g4 is working perfectly for me. What killer features would 7 bring? The upgrade to 6 did not bring many noticable improvements imho.
mulperi said:
I must say I don't care much about 7.0/7.1. The g4 is working perfectly for me. What killer features would 7 bring? The upgrade to 6 did not bring many noticable improvements imho.
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if 7.0 brings :
better battery life time
option to lower the resolution
magic focus
better ui
lower dpi
better cpu management to turn of the cores in idle
etc...
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if 7.0 brings :
better battery life time
option to lower the resolution
magic focus
better ui
lower dpi
better cpu management to turn of the cores in idle
etc...
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The most important thing is improved Doze mode and Vulkan support.
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The most important thing is improved Doze mode and Vulkan support.
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its not our fault they f*** with bootloops. and it still in update cycle. and lame excuse about not beign optimized.. my nuts.
Shall we make a petition??? I dont know will it work or not.
The same thing also happened with my previous phone Xperia SP where they promised kitkat update but later abandoned it. So we (Xperia SP members) filled a petition but unfortunately I didnt change anything.
it looks like a prank to me. Of course you will all bite.
a new xda member just made his 1st post and its about lg never update to nougat ? lmao....
i could do the same anytime just as a prank. pranks exist because people that like pranks exist.
i had too much fun reading it
+1 to the guy that had the idea !
where are the security updates for january and february 2017 for V20 H990DS???!!!
I wouldn't complain the newest build for the T-Mobile variant is December.
yep they're taking way too long with the updates...
I have the US996 unlocked version and we are also stuck on the December patch, hopefully we get something this month!
Hope they are working on a new build... Probably 7.1 not sure... LG won't delay this much without a reason... But as a buyer ... Its irritating and makes me to think different
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I wouldn't complain the newest build for the T-Mobile variant is December.
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H990DS unlocked also still on december security patch! come on LG!
I know if you run one one of the AOSP ROM's you can get one of the new patches. But at that point it kind of defeats the point of getting the V20.
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I know if you run one one of the AOSP ROM's you can get one of the new patches. But at that point it kind of defeats the point of getting the V20.
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Yeah, especially considering the second screen doesn't work with aosp :/
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Call it copying all you want but with the HTC Ultra having a second screen I see a bright future for second screen in AOSP. I'll bet someone else will copy the second screen too. At that point hopefully some developers can cobble up some code that allows the second screen to finally work on the V30 if that ever exists and has that awesome feature. After all developers eventually got the pen to work on the Note series be it a few generations in the series but still. I'm confident we'll someday have a working second screen in AOSP.
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Call it copying all you want but with the HTC Ultra having a second screen I see a bright future for second screen in AOSP. I'll bet someone else will copy the second screen too. At that point hopefully some developers can cobble up some code that allows the second screen to finally work on the V30 if that ever exists and has that awesome feature. After all developers eventually got the pen to work on the Note series be it a few generations in the series but still. I'm confident we'll someday have a working second screen in AOSP.
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This is true and I sure hope so! I mainly use the second screen for a night clock and notifications since we lack a notification led.
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Been almost three months since the last update! I also have a Samsung S7 Edge (mainly for VR), and it has been getting a steady stream of updates.
This is my first LG phone (got swayed by the DAC) and it is disappointing to see the lack of support, that too for a flagship phone.
Maybe the dev team is small and currently everyone is busy with the G6. Hoping some of that stuff gets ported over to the V20. Also hoping I can eventually root the phone...
Btw, how long does LG support its flagship phones? Is it reasonable to expect two years of updates for the V20?
My previous phone, P9 Plus already have the Feb. 1, 201 sec patch. Come on LG, unlock H990DS and update V20 to 7.1 already!!!! Or at least the latest security patch!!!!
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Been almost three months since the last update! I also have a Samsung S7 Edge (mainly for VR), and it has been getting a steady stream of updates.
This is my first LG phone (got swayed by the DAC) and it is disappointing to see the lack of support, that too for a flagship phone.
Maybe the dev team is small and currently everyone is busy with the G6. Hoping some of that stuff gets ported over to the V20. Also hoping I can eventually root the phone...
Btw, how long does LG support its flagship phones? Is it reasonable to expect two years of updates for the V20?
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My Lg G2 had at least 4 years of support before it went capput. That is good of LG at east, just slow.
The LG G6 came pre-loaded with Feb Sec Patch, and still on 7.0
keep that in mind, we wont ever get 7.1 , if anything it will go to 8.0 next
Feb Sec Patch For Ls997 is out there but it seems like it got pulled, either to wait for G6 to launch or a issue with the code.
Either way, id be safe to assume there wont be 7.1 for us, but a jump from 7 to 8.
LG historically has skipped the .1 updates and just gone to the full fledged updates.
No update since 2016 December. Hope they will release some update in april.
yeah we can start adding march and april to the title...
Today I got the update (march).
It is V10e-SEA-xxx.
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Today I got the update (march).
It is V10e-SEA-xxx.
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yep, looks like the SEA version is always ahead with updates...
wondering if switching from TWN to SEA would be a good solution...
LG seems to put the V-series on the slow lane. V10 was very slow to get any kind of update. It is rumored they weren't even going to update the V10 to Nougat, leaving it as it is, but T-Mobile pressured them to update it to Nougat. I'm hoping they'll not let the V20 languish, but they're throwing everything at the G6, now, and letting the V20 become the "discount" phone.
No update yet for me. My phone is at V10d-AUS-xx.
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-g3-lg-g4-no-monthly-security-update/
Man im like wtf
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I know right. I'm tempted to get the LGv20, but I have a feeling that, this is it's last year getting updates
That's only said "No SECURITY Update."
G4 devices will get Nougat.. Waitingg..
Security updates?
Where and when?
LoL like we had security updates before. I only got 2 security updates since I bought it. There were never monthly security updates for the G4. I also starting to doubt for the Nougat update.
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LoL like we had security updates before. I only got 2 security updates since I bought it. There were never monthly security updates for the G4. I also starting to doubt for the Nougat update.
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I had taken 2 major android updates and maybe 5-6 security updates. My device is H815TR. Now I am using v20i Turkey Stock unrooted(it cannot be unlocked).
As far as know if you have flashed right country kdz firmware, you will certainly take security updates
It only says no security updates, but still, if the nought update does not come for a wider variety of the G4 models, i will be very annoyed at LG.
LG really sucks! They provide updates for V10 but not G4. Ridiculous..
I can't even unlock my bootloader ? AndroidOne phones ain't sounding too bad, right about now. (Updates)
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Wtf sent from lg g4 nougat 7.0 f500k xdd
I'm still on stock 10o H810 at&t and waiting for nougat update. I can forfeit root for the nougat update. But till now. I'm unsure if we'll get it. I hope I'll get it. Really hope so.
have anyone asked what happened to the G4 N in Q3 in twitter account.?
Another preexisting thread on the same subject with more posts/information:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/official-nougat-g4-v10-q2-2017-t3567402
There is nougat beta for h815 which i use and full kdz for korean devices, so how technically u can say that there is no nougat? Chill, it will come out soon or later and it will be last update for g4 which is pretty old device in smartphone world. That said nougat beta is the best rom i had on my g4
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There is nougat beta for h815 which i use and full kdz for korean devices, so how technically u can say that there is no nougat? Chill, it will come out soon or later and it will be last update for g4 which is pretty old device in smartphone world. That said nougat beta is the best rom i had on my g4
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Yes, I also think it will come out.
But the G4 is just such an old device beacuse it took so long for LG to develop the Nougat update xD
Are we seriously to believe that LG is spending any time developing Nougat for the LG G4 (other variants) now that Oreo is out, and they are concentrating on their (new) phones which they are actually trying to sell now ?
I think we've been left in the dust - again.
LG-G4 H812 here.
See link in https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74035549&postcount=14
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Are we seriously to believe that LG is spending any time developing Nougat for the LG G4 (other variants) now that Oreo is out, and they are concentrating on their (new) phones which they are actually trying to sell now ?
I think we've been left in the dust - again.
LG-G4 H812 here.
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Monthly Security Update
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Are they serious, what are they talking about?! The last security patch I received was 1 year and 3 months ago... And this is on a carrier-free device which should receive the updates first, nice joke LG they probably don't even have clue that there's nothing going on.
Lol, 2018 is here.
Time to start breathing again - (if you were holding your breath, waiting for Nougat in 2017).
Hello,
Don't know if it is still necessary but.. A petition for an upgrade of android 7 to our G4 H815 International version.
Android 7 came out during the 2 years of maintenance of the G4.. so... LG HAS the obligation to roll out this version to every G4 version.
change.org/p/lg-electronics-android-7-for-lg-g4-h815
Djdjo59 said:
Hello,
Don't know if it is still necessary but.. A petition for an upgrade of android 7 to our G4 H815 International version.
Android 7 came out during the 2 years of maintenance of the G4.. so... LG HAS the obligation to roll out this version to every G4 version.
change.org/p/lg-electronics-android-7-for-lg-g4-h815
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I'm not trying to hate but... I've never experienced that a manufacturer took a petition for a software update/upgrade serious in any way. I've seen more than just a couple of those kind of petitions. It's pointless, it won't change anything even if it get's signed a thousand times.
Just install the "beta" version of Nougat. I've had it for over a month now and haven't noticed any setbacks. Well, other than a little screen burn, but I'm not sure if it's the Nougat or phone that's getting old. No random restarts, no FCs, nothing...Just smooth sailing. LG is not known for its good software support, so I wouldn't hold my breath about official Nougat anymore. I guess that ship has already sailed.
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I'm not trying to hate but... I've never experienced that a manufacturer took a petition for a software update/upgrade serious in any way. I've seen more than just a couple of those kind of petitions. It's pointless, it won't change anything even if it get's signed a thousand times.
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I know... but without a try.. we can't know if it would change something... and personally, I'm not enough good in Android things to install TWRP¨(or something..) to install the v29a (I did unlock my nexus 4 to install ROM, don't know how, I broke it... like.. really: bootloop and can't do anything)
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I know... but without a try.. we can't know if it would change something... and personally, I'm not enough good in Android things to install TWRP¨(or something..) to install the v29a (I did unlock my nexus 4 to install ROM, don't know how, I broke it... like.. really: bootloop and can't do anything)
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I've LG G4 H818P. There is a high risk of root and unlocking the device due to the warranty on the device. Especially when it comes to a device such as the LG G4 that is largely prone to bootloop.
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Just install the "beta" version of Nougat. I've had it for over a month now and haven't noticed any setbacks. Well, other than a little screen burn, but I'm not sure if it's the Nougat or phone that's getting old. No random restarts, no FCs, nothing...Just smooth sailing. LG is not known for its good software support, so I wouldn't hold my breath about official Nougat anymore. I guess that ship has already sailed.
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Well, the bad thing about this beta is that it is vulnerable to the recent exploits in Android as the security patch of this rom is from June 2017. So it is vulnerable to Blueborne bluetooth exploit and KRACK wifi exploit.
ZmisiS said:
I've LG G4 H818P. There is a high risk of root and unlocking the device due to the warranty on the device. Especially when it comes to a device such as the LG G4 that is largely prone to bootloop.
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Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry
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Well, the bad thing about this beta is that it is vulnerable to the recent exploits in Android as the security patch of this rom is from June 2017. So it is vulnerable to Blueborne bluetooth exploit and KRACK wifi exploit.
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I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
Sent from Galaxy Tab A10 with 7300 battery ))
Minto107 said:
Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
Sent from Galaxy Tab A10 with 7300 battery ))
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I do care, that is why I am on AOSCP.
only way to get noticed would be to ask korean LG or at twitter LG ..
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Minto107 said:
Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
Sent from Galaxy Tab A10 with 7300 battery ))
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same screw security LOL
Just vote with your wallet.
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Just vote with your wallet.
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By not buying LG again? Okay, so which manufacturer will give you updates for a long period of time?
Maybe if some company would officially support Lineageos on their device.
cRaZy-bisCuiT said:
By not buying LG again? Okay, so which manufacturer will give you updates for a long period of time?
Maybe if some company would officially support Lineageos on their device.
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I haven't said that. I just meant to say that if the next wave of LG "flagships" have poor sales, maybe they will eventually do something about it.
Maybe they improve on their support, or on their quality control, I don't know.
In the short run, they will probably just ignore os.
But in the long run, if the sales figures go down and the number of support calls and/or device recalls go up maybe, just maybe, they will do something about it.
Who knows, maybe I will buy another LG product/phone if the quality and support of their devices will improve. But as it now stands, they are going down fast.
The latest sales figures already posted here are self explanatory.
LG is a bad smartphone manufacturer - majority of their recent phones have been plagued with issues (some serious some not so much)
no point in petitions cause they will ignore them, and even if they don't and actually release Android 7.0 for G4, thats still a year old OS which LG will leave at version 7.0..
just buy a smartphone that is easy to root (oneplus 5?) and go with lineage OS or something similar that gets updated on a daily basis
LG is **** tier and both their hardware and software suck
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LG is a bad smartphone manufacturer - majority of their recent phones have been plagued with issues (some serious some not so much)
no point in petitions cause they will ignore them, and even if they don't and actually release Android 7.0 for G4, thats still a year old OS which LG will leave at version 7.0..
just buy a smartphone that is easy to root (oneplus 5?) and go with lineage OS or something similar that gets updated on a daily basis
LG is **** tier and both their hardware and software suck
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I agree for the version, but not for root.
I tried with my nexus 4, I scre** it up. totally. And reading articles telling you that you have a lot of manipulations to root etc, no thanks... Except if you have a software that you install normally and boum... rooted.
I will see if the V30 will be released with oreo version. Which i doubt....
I just got this phone, literally came in the mail today after an upgrade. It wants to do an update right away. I know for sure it's on Oreo because I checked. Does anyone know what this update might be or if I should do it. Updates can be so damaging, I'm used to avoiding them. Any thoughts?
This is probably the v20b update which enables some thinQ features and improves the camera app and newest security patch. You should be fine upgrading, at least mine is fine with the update, but it's up to you if course...
In Canada is the 20e update but basically is the ThinQ update, that renames the LG G6 to LG G6 ThinQ, adds Google Lens and Bright mode in the camera and updates the security patch to 1st of June.
I don't want to be a broken record since two people have said what's in the update already...
It's Oreo. Using the update myself, everything is pretty stable as far as normal usage goes. Nothing should be broken since you just got the phone, even after you update.
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I don't want to be a broken record since two people have said what's in the update already...It's Oreo.
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Actually, it's not. It's called "v20e-JUN-01-2018". Oreo is already on the phone. So, you're not a broken record. But it's also not Oreo.
mprovi_15 said:
In Canada is the 20e update but basically is the ThinQ update, that renames the LG G6 to LG G6 ThinQ, adds Google Lens and Bright mode in the camera and updates the security patch to 1st of June.
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You know, I actually read last night that that ThinQ thing was a massive LG marketing mistake and that they're reversing it. My phone says nothing about ThinQ. Maybe that 500MB update was to remove it because my phone doesn't have that branding at all.