Related
LG have announced V20 will be released next month with 7.0 so this means we will definitely get 7.0 as well?
http://www.xda-developers.com/lg-of...to-come-in-september-with-android-7-0-nougat/
No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.
Riardon said:
No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.
F-L-Y-E-R said:
They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.
Riardon said:
Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.
F-L-Y-E-R said:
Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.
Riardon said:
LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
P.S. LG actually did update G3 with 6.0 February security patch and until July it had newer security patch than G4 LOL, even though 18 months passed in December 2015, although for some reason it wasn't available via OTA so I had to install LG update tool in order to get it.
By the way, have you tried LG Bridge to check whether there's an update available?
yes G4 get i think 15 december-16 april betwen the date
i hope so.. i think 5.02 and MM shouldnt exist LP has bugs and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..
raptorddd said:
LP has bugs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Such as ?
and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
4-6% loss over 12 hours ?
I personally think we would get Android Nougat, only because of LG's update pattern.
Each Flagship goes on this pattern:
OTB OS & Second Sort of Big Update (not too many new UX features, but new android version) are within LG's 18 month support, and then there is a 3rd update which is the major update, which usually updates UX, Android Version, and adds a lot of new features.
Because of this pattern, the G4 should have one more major update before we stick to custom roms/security patch updates.
http://www.bing.com/news/apiclick.a...n-2016/165569&c=4819151737868183870&mkt=en-us LG has released several smartphones this year, but it is likely to release Android N first to LG G5. It is also speculated to bring the new firmware upgrade to LG V10 and LG G4 this year.
One Twelve said:
Such as ?
Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
4-6% loss over 12 hours ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%
G2 was released with 4.2, and got upgraded to 4.4 and 5.0
G3 was released with 4.4, and got upgraded to 5.0 and 6.0
G4 was released with 5.1, and got upgraded to 6.0 and probably will get an upgrade to 7.0, I think.
raptorddd said:
such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...
Quickdraw996 said:
Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.
raptorddd said:
yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly! The phone won't have to be still in Nougat for Doze to kick in.
The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.
mingocr83 said:
The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where did you get this information?
kouzelnik3 said:
Where did you get this information?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This. I would like to know this too. No company announced 7.0 update list as of yet. 7.0 is not even out yet.
today there are reports that the android nougat update for the sprint variant of the g5 is out.
https://plus.google.com/communities/109302847348648973506
just look in the community and you will see...
does anybody know anything about the EU update?
I can't believe a US carrier branded variant gets Nougat before the international unlocked H850. What happened to this world...
Me to. But so is... Sprint first with nougat... Incredible... Is confirmed.
Enviado desde mi LG-H850 mediante Tapatalk
According of the news on Internet, yes it confirmed. Looks like spring is imba
LG gives a fu*k about int versions of their phones from LG G4. They'll get it about half of year after sprint version.
Never will buy a LG phone again, I read an article somewhere before that maybe int G5 nougat just coming in February 2017.
Yep, just got Nougat on my Sprint G5 this morning!
t.kijas said:
LG gives a fu*k about int versions of their phones from LG G4. They'll get it about half of year after sprint version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally that's why LG is mostly the one with the quickest updates for their flagships at least. And I'm pretty sure it will be at latest in December but head on of you are so pissed
mkdr said:
Never will buy a LG phone again, I read an article somewhere before that maybe int G5 nougat just coming in February 2017.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wonder where you got your news from.
lolmensch said:
Totally that's why LG is mostly the one with the quickest updates for their flagships at least. And I'm pretty sure it will be at latest in December but head on of you are so pissed
Wonder where you got your news from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im pretty sure that i have seen exactly where he got that info from, and the site is far from trust worthy it will be out before the end of the year.
mkdr said:
Never will buy a LG phone again, I read an article somewhere before that maybe int G5 nougat just coming in February 2017.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then don't. No one forces you to buy LG phones. You are surely easy to be deceived by some man made no proof not official article from a common website.
I used to have worse experience with Motorola when it came to firmware updates
Honestly wasn't even receiving bug fix updates, at least in LG i do.
Nugget already was released in asia and now it's rolling to the sprint devices, I don't understand why everybody dont pay attention to the comments that were made by the people who actually recieved it..
I recieved the update as well
menace211 said:
I recieved the update as well
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it android 7.0 or 7.1?
Its 7.0.
Runs great! The autobrightness issue seems to have been fixed. The display brightens up smoothly now, and does not stay dark. There is a weird bug with the LG keyboard now though. If you click backspace, it does not stop erasing sometimes. I guess it registers too many button presses some how.
Still playing around with it though. Have yet to leave the house to test real world use.
Thought the international would of had it by now!
Any improve or bug in stock camera application?
Thanks.
Hello guys !
I saw few of you have official nougat update for G5. Do you have any news about nougat for everybody ?
Thanks
Snip3rPolska said:
Hello guys !
I saw few of you have official nougat update for G5. Do you have any news about nougat for everybody ?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So far only Korean G5 and Sprint G5 versions got nougat, including beta testers. My guess, by reading the news and taking a look at Lg release cycles for G4 from last year involving marshmallow, would be that the rest of us will be getting nougat somewhere between today and the end of December. And by rest I mean international g5 H850.
onestyle007 said:
So far only Korean G5 and Sprint G5 versions got nougat, including beta testers. My guess, by reading the news and taking a look at Lg release cycles for G4 from last year involving marshmallow, would be that the rest of us will be getting nougat somewhere between today and the end of December. And by rest I mean international g5 H850.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have hope they can give us the update before next year
Snip3rPolska said:
I have hope they can give us the update before next year
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They probably will. Patience is a virtue. And so far we got update after update for mm. So soon I'm guessing we'll get n too.
where are the security updates for january and february 2017 for V20 H990DS???!!!
I wouldn't complain the newest build for the T-Mobile variant is December.
yep they're taking way too long with the updates...
I have the US996 unlocked version and we are also stuck on the December patch, hopefully we get something this month!
Hope they are working on a new build... Probably 7.1 not sure... LG won't delay this much without a reason... But as a buyer ... Its irritating and makes me to think different
jameslapc2 said:
I wouldn't complain the newest build for the T-Mobile variant is December.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
H990DS unlocked also still on december security patch! come on LG!
I know if you run one one of the AOSP ROM's you can get one of the new patches. But at that point it kind of defeats the point of getting the V20.
jameslapc2 said:
I know if you run one one of the AOSP ROM's you can get one of the new patches. But at that point it kind of defeats the point of getting the V20.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, especially considering the second screen doesn't work with aosp :/
Sent from my LG V20 using XDA Labs
Call it copying all you want but with the HTC Ultra having a second screen I see a bright future for second screen in AOSP. I'll bet someone else will copy the second screen too. At that point hopefully some developers can cobble up some code that allows the second screen to finally work on the V30 if that ever exists and has that awesome feature. After all developers eventually got the pen to work on the Note series be it a few generations in the series but still. I'm confident we'll someday have a working second screen in AOSP.
jameslapc2 said:
Call it copying all you want but with the HTC Ultra having a second screen I see a bright future for second screen in AOSP. I'll bet someone else will copy the second screen too. At that point hopefully some developers can cobble up some code that allows the second screen to finally work on the V30 if that ever exists and has that awesome feature. After all developers eventually got the pen to work on the Note series be it a few generations in the series but still. I'm confident we'll someday have a working second screen in AOSP.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is true and I sure hope so! I mainly use the second screen for a night clock and notifications since we lack a notification led.
Sent from my LG V20 using XDA Labs
Been almost three months since the last update! I also have a Samsung S7 Edge (mainly for VR), and it has been getting a steady stream of updates.
This is my first LG phone (got swayed by the DAC) and it is disappointing to see the lack of support, that too for a flagship phone.
Maybe the dev team is small and currently everyone is busy with the G6. Hoping some of that stuff gets ported over to the V20. Also hoping I can eventually root the phone...
Btw, how long does LG support its flagship phones? Is it reasonable to expect two years of updates for the V20?
My previous phone, P9 Plus already have the Feb. 1, 201 sec patch. Come on LG, unlock H990DS and update V20 to 7.1 already!!!! Or at least the latest security patch!!!!
---------- Post added at 12:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:59 AM ----------
krumbs said:
Been almost three months since the last update! I also have a Samsung S7 Edge (mainly for VR), and it has been getting a steady stream of updates.
This is my first LG phone (got swayed by the DAC) and it is disappointing to see the lack of support, that too for a flagship phone.
Maybe the dev team is small and currently everyone is busy with the G6. Hoping some of that stuff gets ported over to the V20. Also hoping I can eventually root the phone...
Btw, how long does LG support its flagship phones? Is it reasonable to expect two years of updates for the V20?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My Lg G2 had at least 4 years of support before it went capput. That is good of LG at east, just slow.
The LG G6 came pre-loaded with Feb Sec Patch, and still on 7.0
keep that in mind, we wont ever get 7.1 , if anything it will go to 8.0 next
Feb Sec Patch For Ls997 is out there but it seems like it got pulled, either to wait for G6 to launch or a issue with the code.
Either way, id be safe to assume there wont be 7.1 for us, but a jump from 7 to 8.
LG historically has skipped the .1 updates and just gone to the full fledged updates.
No update since 2016 December. Hope they will release some update in april.
yeah we can start adding march and april to the title...
Today I got the update (march).
It is V10e-SEA-xxx.
TomHUN said:
Today I got the update (march).
It is V10e-SEA-xxx.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yep, looks like the SEA version is always ahead with updates...
wondering if switching from TWN to SEA would be a good solution...
LG seems to put the V-series on the slow lane. V10 was very slow to get any kind of update. It is rumored they weren't even going to update the V10 to Nougat, leaving it as it is, but T-Mobile pressured them to update it to Nougat. I'm hoping they'll not let the V20 languish, but they're throwing everything at the G6, now, and letting the V20 become the "discount" phone.
No update yet for me. My phone is at V10d-AUS-xx.
When will LG rollout Android 7.1 update for LG G6 ? Will they give 7.1 or directly to Android O ?? Beacuse 7.1 has many improvements including battery optimization.
no we no
LG update only main version. and security patch...
But now big problem. lastest security patch april 1---
Flagship phone-Shame lg shame..
kabirjedi said:
no we no
LG update only main version. and security patch...
But now big problem. lastest security patch april 1---
Flagship phone-Shame lg shame..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So now the LG users are doomed? The biggest security risks are the users themselves that downloads apk files of the Play Store grid and don`t read their rights when installing them And yes i`am sure we`ll get 7.1 and after that Android O.
Got the EU G6 delivered today. I really like the design and screen.
To my amazement it was running the April patch. I was assuming that LG had their updates working by now, like Samsung. Even my old Note 4 from 2014 gets regular updates and has the May patches. The G6 being a flagship phone and anything but cheap, this is unacceptable to me. Needless to say it's going back to Amazon tomorrow.
Sent from my SM-N920F using Tapatalk
Cave_diver said:
Got the EU G6 delivered today. I really like the design and screen.
To my amazement it was running the April patch. I was assuming that LG had their updates working by now, like Samsung. Even my old Note 4 from 2014 gets regular updates and has the May patches. The G6 being a flagship phone and anything but cheap, this is unacceptable to me. Needless to say it's going back to Amazon tomorrow.
Sent from my SM-N920F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So... this bothered you to the extent that you actually returned the phone? It runs good, has an excellent screen, top-notch camera, IP68 and so on, but screw all that - it's not sporting the latest security patch from Google.
MrDeacon said:
So... this bothered you to the extent that you actually returned the phone? It runs good, has an excellent screen, top-notch camera, IP68 and so on, but screw all that - it's not sporting the latest security patch from Google.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, the missing updates are the core reason and it goes to show that LG still doesn't care, just like Samsung once upon a time. Samsung has now understood and are much better at keeping their units up to date. And as you can see at least some customers do care.
Everyone has different priorities and having the manufacturer keep the software up to date is very high on the list for me.
As to the LG G6 itself - I do like it a lot. But the fact that they have cut more corners adds to the software dilemna.
Here in Europe we get no wireless charging and are stuck with a measly 32GB. The Asian model gets 64GB and is even 100 EUR cheaper (go figure) and would work in terms of the LTE frequencies. But as we know that one isn't unlockable which is the next move by LG I don't agree with.
And lest I forget, the Snapdragon 835 is a huge boost compared to the 821, that's another sub par feature of the G6.
LG and others like them are going to go the way of the Dodo if they don't keep up with the Jones's and release their units with tons of features missing and without proper software support.
Your first post only mentioned the security update being a month behind as your reason for returning it.
Now youre complaining about details that you knew (or should have known) before before deciding to purchase it.
What are these "tons of features missing"?
I'm talking about the 821 vs. the 835 the phone deserves. Then no wireless charging, lack of community support due to the bootloader only being open in certain regions.
I would have been fine with all of it but the software just did it for me.,
It's still a nice phone but not for me.,
Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
---------- Post added at 07:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:16 PM ----------
And it's not one month behind. LG gets the April update in March, by now they already have the July update. June is already out since Tuesday.
Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
Calm down now. Korean version supposedly allready got May security patch so we're gonna get it any time now.
Also, LG doesn't do "small" OS upgrades so no, we're probably not gonna get 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 but we will definitely be the first ones to be getting Android O which is right around the corner. That's how LG rolls.
WstrKuNoužč said:
Calm down now. Korean version supposedly allready got May security patch so we're gonna get it any time now.
Also, LG doesn't do "small" OS upgrades so no, we're probably not gonna get 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 but we will definitely be the first ones to be getting Android O which is right around the corner. That's how LG rolls.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's right! :good:
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-g3-lg-g4-no-monthly-security-update/
Man im like wtf
LG-H815 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
I know right. I'm tempted to get the LGv20, but I have a feeling that, this is it's last year getting updates
That's only said "No SECURITY Update."
G4 devices will get Nougat.. Waitingg..
Security updates?
Where and when?
LoL like we had security updates before. I only got 2 security updates since I bought it. There were never monthly security updates for the G4. I also starting to doubt for the Nougat update.
evrk said:
LoL like we had security updates before. I only got 2 security updates since I bought it. There were never monthly security updates for the G4. I also starting to doubt for the Nougat update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had taken 2 major android updates and maybe 5-6 security updates. My device is H815TR. Now I am using v20i Turkey Stock unrooted(it cannot be unlocked).
As far as know if you have flashed right country kdz firmware, you will certainly take security updates
It only says no security updates, but still, if the nought update does not come for a wider variety of the G4 models, i will be very annoyed at LG.
LG really sucks! They provide updates for V10 but not G4. Ridiculous..
I can't even unlock my bootloader ? AndroidOne phones ain't sounding too bad, right about now. (Updates)
CXENTE said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-g3-lg-g4-no-monthly-security-update/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wtf sent from lg g4 nougat 7.0 f500k xdd
I'm still on stock 10o H810 at&t and waiting for nougat update. I can forfeit root for the nougat update. But till now. I'm unsure if we'll get it. I hope I'll get it. Really hope so.
have anyone asked what happened to the G4 N in Q3 in twitter account.?
Another preexisting thread on the same subject with more posts/information:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/official-nougat-g4-v10-q2-2017-t3567402
There is nougat beta for h815 which i use and full kdz for korean devices, so how technically u can say that there is no nougat? Chill, it will come out soon or later and it will be last update for g4 which is pretty old device in smartphone world. That said nougat beta is the best rom i had on my g4
Avantu said:
There is nougat beta for h815 which i use and full kdz for korean devices, so how technically u can say that there is no nougat? Chill, it will come out soon or later and it will be last update for g4 which is pretty old device in smartphone world. That said nougat beta is the best rom i had on my g4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I also think it will come out.
But the G4 is just such an old device beacuse it took so long for LG to develop the Nougat update xD
Are we seriously to believe that LG is spending any time developing Nougat for the LG G4 (other variants) now that Oreo is out, and they are concentrating on their (new) phones which they are actually trying to sell now ?
I think we've been left in the dust - again.
LG-G4 H812 here.
See link in https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74035549&postcount=14
icemankent said:
Are we seriously to believe that LG is spending any time developing Nougat for the LG G4 (other variants) now that Oreo is out, and they are concentrating on their (new) phones which they are actually trying to sell now ?
I think we've been left in the dust - again.
LG-G4 H812 here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Monthly Security Update
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are they serious, what are they talking about?! The last security patch I received was 1 year and 3 months ago... And this is on a carrier-free device which should receive the updates first, nice joke LG they probably don't even have clue that there's nothing going on.
Lol, 2018 is here.
Time to start breathing again - (if you were holding your breath, waiting for Nougat in 2017).