Hi guys.
I just bought this HU and i thinking to upgrade the 5.1.1 Android to 6.0 or higher.Question is where i can dowloding from i digging on the internet and not find any.Other question is its worth to upgrade?
Here is the details of the unit
Xtrons PL82MTVA
MCU VERSION MTCD_HH_V2.05_1
Android version 5.1.1
Many Thanks for any help.
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vurban said:
Hi guys.
I just bought this HU and i thinking to upgrade the 5.1.1 Android to 6.0 or higher.Question is where i can dowloding from i digging on the internet and not find any.Other question is its worth to upgrade?
Here is the details of the unit
Xtrons PL82MTVA
MCU VERSION MTCD_HH_V2.05_1
Android version 5.1.1
Many Thanks for any help.
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That works, but one wonders if it is worth the effort?
Have it synonymous with my MTCD RK3188 tried and have given up dan!
Sure, you'll find an Android 6 update on the web, but it would be easier to just flash a ROM, for example. Malaysk ROM or Hal9k depending on tastes and functions, I recommend you both, whereby Malaysk ROM offers more features and finishes.
Hello everyone
I have since yesterday a Joying JY-UO135N4-OBD, MCU number: TP6735D 0.43 under android 8.1 that I want to upgrade to android 9 because my OnePlus 6 is under 9 and can not connect USB on the Joying.
Is there an update?
Thank you for your answers.
All Techniques said:
Hello everyone
I have since yesterday a Joying JY-UO135N4-OBD, MCU number: TP6735D 0.43 under android 8.1 that I want to upgrade to android 9 because my OnePlus 6 is under 9 and can not connect USB on the Joying.
Is there an update?
Thank you for your answers.
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No there is no update and I'm for 99,5% sure there will not come an update anymore now that the new Intels are coming in and the PX5s are slowly phased out.
Eunavi claims they will have a 9.0 firmware for their PX5 units this month. Maybe others will update as well.
surfer63 said:
No there is no update and I'm for 99,5% sure there will not come an update anymore now that the new Intels are coming in and the PX5s are slowly phased out.
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I'm a little disgusted to learn that, I should have better information before.
Is it possible to make my Joying 8.1 compatible with my OP6 Pie in another way?
In bluetooth everything works very well but in usb (for android auto and mirror function) my OP6 sees the joying but the joying does not connect to the OP6.
Thank you for your skills
OP6 Android 9.0 with Z-Link is working on the new intel joying units....
All Techniques said:
I'm a little disgusted to learn that, I should have better information before.
Is it possible to make my Joying 8.1 compatible with my OP6 Pie in another way?
In bluetooth everything works very well but in usb (for android auto and mirror function) my OP6 sees the joying but the joying does not connect to the OP6.
Thank you for your skills
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I believe you can attempt using the trial version of Headunit Reloaded Android Auto and if this works out. You can try out using the full version.
TRIAL
XDA-Attachment Direct-URL : https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4599136&d=1537265089
G-Play URL: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gb.xxy.trial
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XDA-Labs URL: https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/gb.xxy.hr
G-Play URL: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gb.xxy.hr&hl=en_US
I can confirm this to work with Pixel 2 running Android 9.0 using both wired and wireless.
It's not installing Android 9.0 directly onto the head unit but it will mirror any source android phone as long as it's 4.1+.
chriscolon88 said:
I believe you can attempt using the trial version of Headunit Reloaded Android Auto and if this works out. You can try out using the full version.
I can confirm this to work with Pixel 2 running Android 9.0 using both wired and wireless.
It's not installing Android 9.0 directly onto the head unit but it will mirror any source android phone as long as it's 4.1+.
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The OP asks whether he can upgrade his PX5 to Android 9. Not whether he can use an Android 9 phone/device with his unit.
That's a big difference and mirroring your phone to your head unit might be enough, but it is always a big functionality limitation when comparing it with the full head unit functionality.
For me the only concern with older Android versions it the lack of support when it comes to security patches by those Chinese suppliers. Joying (and all the others) simply stop supplying security updates even though the Android 8.0 version on the PX5 is still fully supported.
Using Android auto or headunit reloaded does not change that. It might even make it worse (and especially with z-link)
surfer63 said:
The OP asks whether he can upgrade his PX5 to Android 9. Not whether he can use an Android 9 phone/device with his unit.
That's a big difference and mirroring your phone to your head unit might be enough, but it is always a big functionality limitation when comparing it with the full head unit functionality.
For me the only concern with older Android versions it the lack of support when it comes to security patches by those Chinese suppliers. Joying (and all the others) simply stop supplying security updates even though the Android 8.0 version on the PX5 is still fully supported.
Using Android auto or headunit reloaded does not change that. It might even make it worse (and especially with z-link)
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I did specifically reply to OP's message, to be more clear:
Is it possible to make my Joying 8.1 compatible with my OP6 Pie in another way?
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But seeing that the OP may be staying with his current PX5 I took the liberty of suggesting an alternative to Z-link. Seeing as I have hit the same snag as him with my PX5 and Pixel 2 running Android 9.0. So as a reiteration to the previously mentioned:
Is it possible to make my Joying 8.1 compatible with my OP6 Pie in another way?
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May I also point out I did mention this specifically at the end of my reply:
It's not installing Android 9.0 directly onto the head unit but it will mirror any source android phone as long as it's 4.1+.
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Do you have any available solution to OP's last question?
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I did specifically reply to OP's message, to be more clear:
Do you have any available solution to OP's last question?
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You are completely right. I had overseen his second question. sorry.
Headunit reloaded should/might work.
Z-link only works with phone versions up to 8.1 with the PX-5.
The new 9853i (8.1) does work with Android 9 phones. It might be worth trying to install that z-link version onto the PX5 to see whether that works.
surfer63 said:
You are completely right. I had overseen his second question. sorry.
Headunit reloaded should/might work.
Z-link only works with phone versions up to 8.1 with the PX-5.
The new 9853i (8.1) does work with Android 9 phones. It might be worth trying to install that z-link version onto the PX5 to see whether that works.
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I thank you all for your answers.
I made a cross on a hypothetical update of the PX5 but if an application can replace Z-link to run my OP6 pie it would be great.
Or a custum ROM ....
All Techniques said:
I thank you all for your answers.
I made a cross on a hypothetical update of the PX5 but if an application can replace Z-link to run my OP6 pie it would be great.
Or a custum ROM ....
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I have an OnePlus 6T and I have the 10.1" octacore 4/64 GB px5 8.1 joying unit and I contacted them about it. They say they are working on an update to fix it. So... We shall see, not holding my breath. I plugged in my backup Moto E4 and the works with z link.
What I'm trying to figure out is what update my unit needs since they have their Intel altimont update on their site and I'm not sure if that's compatible.
Edit: ok so I see that I have a QD unit, I reached out to joying to see if there's any recent updates
Hi, is it possible to update a firmware/ROM from android 8.0 to 8.1 using Joying web updates? My HU is Xtrons MCU KEQ, but is essentially a Joying hardware with px5 4/32g.
Thanks in advance
polgoz said:
Hi, is it possible to update a firmware/ROM from android 8.0 to 8.1 using Joying web updates? My HU is Xtrons MCU KEQ, but is essentially a Joying hardware with px5 4/32g.
Thanks in advance
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No.
The PX5 8.0 firmware is an ARM64 android. The intel airmont 8.1 firmware is an x86_64 android.
They are completely incompatible. And then there is the differences in other hardware requiring other drivers.
surfer63 said:
No.
The PX5 8.0 firmware is an ARM64 android. The intel airmont 8.1 firmware is an x86_64 android.
They are completely incompatible. And then there is the differences in other hardware requiring other drivers.
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Ok, thanks.. I suspect that.. ja
Im lookin to replace my com.syu.amp from my actual 8.0 system. How can I get a new/different one? I saw that Joying is showing a new parametric EQ in the 8.1 set. And the HU dont have a DPS hardware. So.. Is there a way to take some Archives from android 8.1 to use it on 8.0?
Thanks in advance Surfer!
polgoz said:
Ok, thanks.. I suspect that.. ja
Im lookin to replace my com.syu.amp from my actual 8.0 system. How can I get a new/different one? I saw that Joying is showing a new parametric EQ in the 8.1 set. And the HU dont have a DPS hardware. So.. Is there a way to take some Archives from android 8.1 to use it on 8.0?
Thanks in advance Surfer!
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I don't think so.
And the com.syu.eq is the "visual" equalizer. I'm afraid the difference in hardware is too big to make it work. And I also think that other libraries and drivers are required.
surfer63 said:
I don't think so.
And the com.syu.eq is the "visual" equalizer. I'm afraid the difference in hardware is too big to make it work. And I also think that other libraries and drivers are required.
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My problem is that EQ is not doing that would be at all. 7 bands and and every one of this acts as HPF. Its imposible get a good spot.
On system/priv-app/ there are 2 folders related to audio, one is the 180000000_com.syu.amp that inside has an .apk called AMP.
And de second folder is com.syu.eq that has the Eq executable.
Maybe trying with the last Joying web firmware to px5 from november 2018? What do you think?
Thanks again for your help.
polgoz said:
My problem is that EQ is not doing that would be at all. 7 bands and and every one of this acts as HPF. Its imposible get a good spot.
On system/priv-app/ there are 2 folders related to audio, one is the 180000000_com.syu.amp that inside has an .apk called AMP.
And de second folder is com.syu.eq that has the Eq executable.
Maybe trying with the last Joying web firmware to px5 from november 2018? What do you think?
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Sorry. I really don't know. I already mentioned my doubts and have no further experiene with it, and know nobody who has.
Would it be possible to see if the Z-Link apk (from new Intel Joying) can work on the 8.0 (PX5). If someone can extract the apk and share it from the device itself? I've tried downloading the firmware, and extract the system.img but I can't go any further than that for now. I need to figure out how to extract ext4 images on a mac.
Dear all,
i have this Funrover head unit, please your help if it possible yo update firmware, actually i have android 8.0 but its very slow and the mirrorlink or Easyconnect wont work on usb type C...
i attached details of my head unit
thank you all, any help please
just need to know what firmware can install, since the one that came with the HU doesnt work easyconnect (android 8.0.)
dachepo said:
just need to know what firmware can install, since the one that came with the HU doesnt work easyconnect (android 8.0.)
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You have a Sofia unit. That unit is running Android 6.0.1. That does not support phones with Android 8.x. There is no firmware that will help you.
You should better take a look at HUR: Head Unit Reloaded. It is made by an XDA developer.
surfer63 said:
You have a Sofia unit. That unit is running Android 6.0.1. That does not support phones with Android 8.x. There is no firmware that will help you.
You should better take a look at HUR: Head Unit Reloaded. It is made by an XDA developer.
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but in the info says android 8.0
thats not real?
dachepo said:
but in the info says android 8.0
thats not real?
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What info? From the supplier or the website or on your unit?
I don't see that from your images.
Also: A Sofia running on android 8.0? That would be the first that I know of (but I don't know everything , not by far )
Your 2nd image shows a Bluetooth version of 6.0.1.-23. That version is not correct, but is shows Android 6.0.1 with some kernel version.
Anyway: Even if your Sofia is running Android 8, there is no (custom) firmware available that will allow it to pair with an android phone on 8.x or newer.
Thank you for the explanation surfer.
That means i cannot install any of the firmware on this forum?
dachepo said:
Thank you for the explanation surfer.
That means i cannot install any of the firmware on this forum?
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Probably not. Maybe you can install the gtxaspec custom rom, but only if your funrover is 100% identical with a Joying Sofia (which is possible).
Normally there is a fyt.prop where the company is defined. For Joying that id is 43. So even if you use that custom rom, you first need to change the id in the custom ROM to the Funrover id, otherwise your MCU will give problems.
And even in that case: your android phone 8 will still not be supported in Android auto/Easyconnected.
So my advice: Don't even try that route as you will not have any support.
Go for HUR like I advised in my first post.
Hello everyone,
I have been using android head unit in my car for the past two years and I am very happy with it and I can’t imagine that I could live with standard (non android) head units.
However, I always like to use the latest android version and I am hoping that the idea that just came to my mind works. I just knew about the new method of installing android roms using GSI file (generic system image) which is a universal android image that can be installed in any android phone (mostly the new phones). There is an app in play store called Treble Check which simply tells you whether your device support GSI installation or not.
My question: is this method possible with car android head units in general?
Also is it possible in my case with below specifications:
Device: PX5 MTCD
Android version: 8.0
Ram: 4GB
GPS slot is not available, just normal SD card slot.
Magisk root is available
Recovery is available
Checked with Treble Check and says my device support it.
If this is possible then we can celebrate with android 10 right away ???.
I just afraid to brick my device thats why I asked before doing any thing.
Thanks ?
No ideas? ?
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No ideas?
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This will not work. An Android head unit in your car is a combination of a "normal" Android device, where they added hardware like amp and radio chips, and communication to your car. This all controlled by the MCU hardware and binary.
If all (or at least one) manufacturer would use the Android automotive project, there might have been a chance.
However, all of this hardware related programming stuff is closed source and the manufacturers do not seem to want to switch from their old legacy MCU model with closed source drivers, to Android automotive.
Edit: I think your Treble Check simply checks the Android being used and the "normal" Android hardware. I guess it doesn't even see the radio chip, amp chip and CAN bus as it doesn't see the MCU either. I guess it is completely blind to those components.
Hi All
looking through this forum it seems quite interesting and i want to explore this in depth when i get my android to work
i have bought a used Ford with the Xtrons PB78FSFP installed, but it malfunctioning, in the sense that it states Version Unmatched -01 and looking through this forum it seems that an MCU update might be the reason (seller had no clue). So my question is how do i find the right MCU for this model so i can start over and maybe get it to work properly.
Right now its running MTCE_AW_V3.71_1 (DEC 21 2020) but according to what i can google it doesnt fit this model
OS is Android 8.1
/Dennis
DenGylden said:
Hi All
looking through this forum it seems quite interesting and i want to explore this in depth when i get my android to work
i have bought a used Ford with the Xtrons PB78FSFP installed, but it malfunctioning, in the sense that it states Version Unmatched -01 and looking through this forum it seems that an MCU update might be the reason (seller had no clue). So my question is how do i find the right MCU for this model so i can start over and maybe get it to work properly.
Right now its running MTCE_AW_V3.71_1 (DEC 21 2020) but according to what i can google it doesnt fit this model
OS is Android 8.1
/Dennis
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Found this site and after a little try-out i installed the MTCE_GS_V2.85f
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