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5.1.1 Existence has been leaked, what do we want?

So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.

exekias said:
So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.
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probably nothing beneficial for the N6... looks like it's only going to be for the N7 and N9... much like the 5.0.2 release was never "official" for the N6.

If its truly LMY47S, then it is not really 5.1.1.
That has the same build date code as 5.1.

I want faster responding sensors. Auto dimming, proximity sensor for phone calls sped up. Damn thing takes forever! As does auto rotate.

Want a rocketship for blasting off to Mars! Seems my Nexus6 has about everything else!

I'd like my battery to last over 9000 minutes of screen on time.

Three wishes, and none of them for an iPhone, M9, or S6.

Better battery optimization, improved camera and radio, and ability to switch to a dark Material theme.

Performance improvement for Camera, Dialer and occasional dropped frames in animations.

I would like google to unlock the notification led xD
Faster booting up and more options when shutting down.
Screen resolution options.
That's it for now, only had it for 2 days. Still learning about lollipop, I came from an galaxy s3.

Sexy wallpaper

- Notification lights back by default (non-rooted)
- (Better) hardware encryption for faster boot-up

Fix the carkit a2dp crashing when connected to a Bluetooth low energy device. I should not have to put my moto 360 in airplane mode every time I drive my car...
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clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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To you and others in this thread - You're on XDA and many of the feature requests are available in most custom ROMs. "I don't run rooted ROMs" or "I'd like those features to be in stock ROM" will probably be your reply, to which I will say, why are you commenting on a developer / Android customization forum?

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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Why would Google implement something that is unnecessary and could cause problems? There hasn't been any need to close apps for quite a few iterations of android (actually an understatement)

With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.

I just want WiFi calling
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8Fishes said:
With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.
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Well it's using a tegra chip. All other nexus are using Qualcomm chips. Minus the 9 which is also late to the party.

The N6 is already a great device. What would make it stand above the rest is for it to be natively as smooth and lag free as the N5 is and to add some minor battery life improvements.

Android 7.1 Developer Preview Released

Android 7.1 developer preview has been released for our device post your experience below
Update: Android 7.1.1 DP2 has been released

Bought my pixel c last week, trying out the dev preview.. works great so far. Running totally stock at the moment obviously not rooted or unlocked. Installed seemlessly and it absorbed my current setup with no problems. Battery seems to last much better than my previous device - asus tf300.

kjwaugh said:
Bought my pixel c last week, trying out the dev preview.. works great so far. Running totally stock at the moment obviously not rooted or unlocked. Installed seemlessly and it absorbed my current setup with no problems. Battery seems to last much better than my previous device - asus tf300.
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Agreed, I am digging the battery life so far. Also grabbed the pixel launcher APK and the new google wallpapers. Looking good.

frch0603 said:
Agreed, I am digging the battery life so far. Also grabbed the pixel launcher APK and the new google wallpapers. Looking good.
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Yeah same I installed the preview last night and no problems so far
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The only problem I have so far is it seems to loose WiFi.
You have to reboot, then it reconnects no issue.
Not seeing a big difference 7.0 to 7.1.1 and this WiFi thing is very annoying.
The other thing that is annoying Google sells 3 products under the Pixel name.
Pixel/Pixel XL get the Pixel Launcher.
Pixel C (still a current product) no Pixel Launcher. I

AstroDigital said:
The only problem I have so far is it seems to loose WiFi.
You have to reboot, then it reconnects no issue.
Not seeing a big difference 7.0 to 7.1.1 and this WiFi thing is very annoying.
The other thing that is annoying Google sells 3 products under the Pixel name.
Pixel/Pixel XL get the Pixel Launcher.
Pixel C (still a current product) no Pixel Launcher. I
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Yeah I agree
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I'm running the 7.1.1 dev preview, and installed the Pixel launcher and the Pixel (circular) icons pack. Only a few (at best) icons are circular now, though -- Calendar is the only one that comes to mind. This is the pack that became available ~Oct. 19. Anyone have any idea how to get ALL of the icons circular, as they are on my Pixel XL?
Also, the launcher's G search button and weather/date quasi-widget is about 1/4 down from the top of the screen, and is not at the top as it is on my Pixel XL. There's just a bunch of dead blank space above it. I'm wondering if this will eventually be fixed for the Pixel C, or if it's going to be something like the gigantic hunk of dead space that was below the stock digital clock on the home screen of my Nexus 10.
FWIW, no wifi disconnect issues on 7.1.1, but I had none before for that matter. And I've never disabled location or bluetooth scanning.

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Yeah I agree
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Same here..

Android 7.1.2 Rolling out now

Seems 7.1.2 is starting to rollout to some Pixel C owners according to 9to5Goolge, not got it myself yet, anyone grab the OTA if they get it?
https://9to5google.com/2017/04/02/android-7-1-2-pixel-c-update/

Just got it . Over in Houston Texas for region questioning. 11:45pm. How do grab and share it?
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Got the update in the UK yesterday and another bonus is I now also get the cool pixel live wallpapers that I have on my Pixel XL.
One more minor change I've noticed since getting 7.1.2 is that wallpapers now appear slightly darker when you set them than before. That's a good thing I think as previously maybe 60%of all Google's default wallpapers were so light that they didn't contrast well with the app icons and you often couldn't read the app icon labels. This had been the case going back multiple android versions on previous devices. Seems like Google have finally addressed it, well at least on the Pixel C.

Yup, just got it here in UK also. Dunno whether I like it yet? Wasn't offered. Had to check manually.

Full OTA images are up for anyone who doesn't want to wait ...
https://developers.google.com/android/ota

I'm on 7.1.2 beta and I haven't received an update to stable yet. Anyone facing the same problem?

king231 said:
I'm on 7.1.2 beta and I haven't received an update to stable yet. Anyone facing the same problem?
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it will come, just be patient, or you can just side load the ota
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Or flash the factory image (after removing the -w from the bat file first of all) which is what I did, working fine here

king231 said:
I'm on 7.1.2 beta and I haven't received an update to stable yet. Anyone facing the same problem?
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I was having the same issue so I left the beta program, which downgraded the Pixel C. When I was back on 7.1.1 I was then offered the update.

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I was having the same issue so I left the beta program, which downgraded the Pixel C. When I was back on 7.1.1 I was then offered the update.
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I didn't want to reset the device

I'm on 7.1.2 Beta and I received a very small update this morning (11.2MB) to take me to N2G47D with April security patches.
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So did I. This small update is a stable version. So if you want you can leave the beta program after that update without loosing your data.
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Got the updates to patch my beta to mainstream but comes with a unique bug; gboard has no spacebar. I've tried force closing and also restarting the tablet. Very strange issue...other keyboards work fine.
Edit, changed the theme and that's fixed it. So weird!

foxmeister said:
I'm on 7.1.2 Beta and I received a very small update this morning (11.2MB) to take me to N2G47D with April security patches.
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Me too

Has anyone else noticed slow charging since the update to 7.1.2? I've just unplugged mine after an hour on the standard charger and the increase was only about 15%?!
Only got the update yesterday so first charge since...mostly looks good but fast charging is an essential for me, so hopefully if there's a bug affecting fast rapid charging it's fixed soon!

abou27 said:
Has anyone else noticed slow charging since the update to 7.1.2? I've just unplugged mine after an hour on the standard charger and the increase was only about 15%?!
Only got the update yesterday so first charge since...mostly looks good but fast charging is an essential for me, so hopefully if there's a bug affecting fast rapid charging it's fixed soon!
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Nope, then again, I use an Anker charge box & lead, and never used stock charger etc., blisteringly fast as normal, always has been, since 7.0.0.

7.1.2 seems to have slowed my pixel c down to a snails pace. Have just factory reset, but still seems slow. For example swiping left on the home screen to get to Google now used to be smooth, but is now jerky. Anyone else experiencing this?

narse said:
7.1.2 seems to have slowed my pixel c down to a snails pace. Have just factory reset, but still seems slow. For example swiping left on the home screen to get to Google now used to be smooth, but is now jerky. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Not to the extent that you mention. But app loading and Chrome web page loading does feel slower.

Have been playing around and seems worse if the screen size is set to small (which is what i generally use on my pixel c and Nexus 6p). Setting back to default size makes the performance better, but still doesn't feel as smooth as it should on a device like this.

@narse,
FWIW: I just rebooted my router, and my issues are solved.

S8 is much slower than the Google Pixel?

Hi all,
Just switched to the s8 from a google pixel.
Beautiful phone, but if is noticeably slower, in many ways:
1. Poor screen responsiveness of the keyboard. Typing on SwiftKey is slower on the s8 than the pixel. It seems that take a split second longer to recognise the touch.
2. Scrolling stuttering. The pixel's scrolling is buttery smooth. The s8 seems to be seriously slopping frames for something as simple as scrolling a page of text on chrome!
3. App switcher. It's really very jelly compared to the buttery smooth Pixel.
Anyone else experienced these issues, and /or have any thoughts?

I had moments yesterday where my S8 had skipped or stuttered, but it's been perfect today.

No issues here, and I'm no samsung fan boy. I've got iPhone 7 plus, zte axon 7, lg v20, and I've owned nexus devices. But with My track record with samsung I'd know for sure in 2 weeks lol. Happy so far
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Has been butter smooth for me and I have not noticed any lag on the keyboard or in any screen. Not sure why you are experiencing such poor performance.

Pixel is bare bones and Samsung is full of features and customization (some useful and others a waste). Samsung is know for bloatware which slows the phone down, but my S8 is fluid.

I noticed the same thing
I noticed a delay with my s8 compared to the pixel xl when I happened to switch between apps on both. To test it out I opened up the same two apps and double tapped the toggle window button. The s8 is slower and not as smooth. There may be an animation speed setting that makes it faster but still seems like it wouldn't be as smooth.
Typing this in noticing swift key going slower too.
My battery is at 15% so maybe something is optimizing it and slowing it down...

Started having problems again. Ironically, similar to the problems that caused me to switch from the S4 to the S8 and to what the OP mentions.. Freezing of apps and high battery draw. Stuttering and slow to switch apps and unlock. Problems with keyboard not recording keystrokes. Then it goes b as back to being perfect again.
There is an update ready, but I'm having flashbacks to the update that locked the S4 down. I know this phone is already locked down more than the S4 ever was, but still...

No problems here. It's really fast. Faster than my old S6 Edge.

vw65bus said:
No issues here, and I'm no samsung fan boy. I've got iPhone 7 plus, zte axon 7, lg v20, and I've owned nexus devices. But with My track record with samsung I'd know for sure in 2 weeks lol. Happy so far
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Yes to my surprise this sammy built phone hasn't lagged yet but it's too early to tell

I always disable window animation in developer tools. Make it way better for me. I don't like window animation.

mlock420 said:
Yes to my surprise this sammy built phone hasn't lagged yet but it's too early to tell
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Yep another week and a half we'll know, hoping it doesn't. But if it's going to I hope its before my return window. I think samsung finally made a good speedy phone.
To anyone wanting to help speed it up and block updates until there sure it's a good update. I disabled updates in developer settings, and set animations to .5x.
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vw65bus said:
Yep another week and a half we'll know, hoping it doesn't. But if it's going to I hope its before my return window. I think samsung finally made a good speedy phone.
To anyone wanting to help speed it up and block updates until there sure it's a good update. I disabled updates in developer settings, and set animations to .5x.
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Yeah I'm not updating cause remapping Bixby is the best for that button... now if we can remap that fingerprint scanner lol

mlock420 said:
Yeah I'm not updating cause remapping Bixby is the best for that button... now if we can remap that fingerprint scanner lol
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Lol yep that would be awesome and funny. Ya I have my bixby button set to google now. Wish there wasnt a button there though.
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Mine is noticeably slower than my Nexus 6p even. Love the screen but touchwiz is a joke. Starting to regret my purchase.

vw65bus said:
Lol yep that would be awesome and funny. Ya I have my bixby button set to google now. Wish there wasnt a button there though.
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I got a question is there a way to get rid of that ota update symbol on my status bar or do I download the update and just don't install?...i really wanna get rid of that symbol but don't wanna risk the update being accidentally installed

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I got a question is there a way to get rid of that ota update symbol on my status bar or do I download the update and just don't install?...i really wanna get rid of that symbol but don't wanna risk the update being accidentally installed
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Unfortunately, I don't know how to get rid of it. (Yet) I'm pretty sure once you set it up to stop updates it doesn't show up. But same with my case I didn't know the update was going to break bixby button so I stopped it when I found out. Now mine shows, and I've tried to get rid of it by blocking its notifications thru holding down on it and going to its settings. But it still shows up. I'm still working on a work around to get rid of it. Once I do I'll let you know.
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Unfortunately, I don't know how to get rid of it. (Yet) I'm pretty sure once you set it up to stop updates it doesn't show up. But same with my case I didn't know the update was going to break bixby button so I stopped it when I found out. Now mine shows, and I've tried to get rid of it by blocking its notifications thru holding down on it and going to its settings. But it still shows up. I'm still working on a work around to get rid of it. Once I do I'll let you know.
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I can't remember if we can just download it and then once it offers to install maybe we could ignore it but I forgot if that was the case for 7.0 update for s7e

I'm getting stuttery scrolling across various apps. Some are smooth though, and others more like a mid-range phone from a few years ago - not what you'd expect from a flagship device today.

I'm experiencing the stuttering apps. As mentioned in this thread, disabling window animations has helped with this experience.
This is my first android phone since the HTC one X.
Can we expect any custome ROMs? Or updates to improve performance?

Scottland said:
I'm getting stuttery scrolling across various apps. Some are smooth though, and others more like a mid-range phone from a few years ago - not what you'd expect from a flagship device today.
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Not all apps are created equal, some are smoother than others simply because they're written differently.

I went back to Oreo on my Pixel 2 and here is why...

1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media? all they had to do is allow the user to decide what volume to adjust via hardware keys in the sound settings...
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie". I got a clue for you google, Bring back KitKat design in material and include ticker notifications in your next major revision. Hardly anyone complained about UI's in ICS, Jellybean and KitKat. You guys did a great job until you decided it was time to copy Apple in 5.0.
3) Superior notification/quick with sub-menus for Bluetooth and WIFI. Why was this removed? This isn't quite as dumb as scrapping ticker notifications for heads up to copy Crapple but it's definitely pretty damn close.
4) Split screen mode is a completely seamless experience on Oreo, it's complete trash on Pie unless you run an adb command to remove the Pixel launcher which I bet 60% out of the 75% who updated won't even know about.
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up. This does happen but it's a very minor reason why I prefer being on the final release of Oreo.
6) Recent's is far superior on Oreo (Although you can still revert or Oreo recent's by removing Google Launcher but the majority of consumers do not know this)
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices.-We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution. This means way more application support on 8.x
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one. Seriously... Doze is so powerful, why not just add some profiles to the OS so even the most basic of users can tweak it (or hell, add it to developer settings)... AI is not the answer. Simple settings to config when your device goes into doze mode is... it's your most powerful battery saving feature in Android. Use it....
9) Adaptive brightness is reliable on Oreo & Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie, AI can't seem to get it right. Surprise surprise.
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in SystemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. How is this rocket science? or better yet! allow the user to configure it, haven't you guys realized by now that the center clock mod is super popular among your enthusiasts? I personally don't use it but it's been a very popular mod for half a decade here on XDA and you know people will use it so why not just add it? Oh wait, you guys needed to add a feature to show what music is playing in Wal-mart on the lockscreen. Cool, I guess... the feature is so bad its off by default lol.
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!

Danvdh said:
1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media?
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie"
3)Much better notification/quick toggles pull down with sub-menus for bluetooth and wifi. Why did Google remove this?
4) Split screen mode is usable again! videos actually play!
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up, I like the piece of mind that my phone will stay on the final Oreo update until I feel Pie is stable enough (9.1?)
6) Multitasking is faster (Although it can be sorted by removing Google Launcher but the majority of consumers do not know this)
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices Source: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/ - We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution.
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one.
9) Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in systemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. Seriously, do this!!!
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!
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I get it.
I flashed Pie the other day for the first time but I too am tempted to go back. I miss having my Smartbar navigation mods. The circular icons for quick toggles aren't growing on me. A couple of apps don't work that I used to use.
Performance and battery life is grewt, but the upgrade isn't significant enough for me to stay.... I'm tempted to go back!

I want Oreo back too, but the version I got "unlocked" turned out to be a Verizon variant and my attempt to OTA rollback failed.

But really guys, new things and changes are parts of life, why complaining? You don't want new updates? Buy a Samsung non flagship phone and stay with Oreo forever.

well... thought about finally manually updating to pie today.... now, not so much. I do agree with the notch.... wtf

I've tried Pie, and admittedly there are some good elements, however Google gives us no choices. How hard would it be to have a clock placement setting? How hard would it be to have a full dark theme? How hard would it be to offer a choice on dual window layout? Oreo was tried and true and it feels like many things were changed just for the sake of change. Apparently the recent apps menu can even be reverted deleting files via ADB so why not give people choices? I love the speed and fluidity of stock Android, but must say Samsung, LG, and custom ROMs have an advantage on getting things exactly how you want them. Perhaps Android 10 will finally give users choices again.
The fact that Google plays games with what versions of the Pixel 2 XL can be bootloader unlocked is very disappointing as well. There should be a clearly identified way to tell other than some IMEI checker. I'd love to OTA back to Oreo, but can't and am stuck with a UI I can do nothing to tweak. My only option is deal with it or sell this phone.

Xposed and well duh!
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Danvdh said:
1) Volume controls, seriously google? what are you smoking? Why is it way more difficult to change my ringer volume then it needs to be? why do I need to change media volume if I'm not actually listening to media?
2) Much more professional UI, if I wanted an iPhone I would buy and iPhone, Google might as well called this update "Apple Pie"
3)Much better notification/quick toggles pull down with sub-menus for bluetooth and wifi. Why did Google remove this?
4) Split screen mode is usable again! videos actually play!
5) No need to worry about an OTA rolling and screwing things up, I like the piece of mind that my phone will stay on the final Oreo update until I feel Pie is stable enough (9.1?)
6) Multitasking is faster (Although it can be sorted by removing Google Launcher but the majority of consumers do not know this)
7) Pie is not used by many people at all, in fact the number of total android devices running Pie is less then 0.1% of android devices Source: https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/ - We are essentially beta testers even after the developer previews.... Oreo however is up to nearly 20% distribution. This means way more application support on 8.x
8) Battery life using Franco's Naptime app for aggressive doze gives me insane battery life, Adaptive battery is pretty useless when you use such a powerful app like this one.
9) Adaptive brightness is awful on Pie
10) My clock is where it has been for the past 7 years on Android phones, this notch thing just needs to die. Google needs to add a boolean value in systemUI for the left clock and assign it a true value for phones with a notch, and false with a phone with no notch. Seriously, do this!!!
Now before you guys come in here bringing up security bulletin updates, it's a fair point but I would just like to say that no security update will save you from being a noob, don't download shady apps, don't connect to unsecured public wifi networks, don't browse shady websites and don't click on everything you see. Much like a PC, you can get the latest Windows updates and anti-virus definitions but if your foolish and browse around unsafe and shady websites and installing shady .exe's your going to get yourself in to trouble and no security update will save you. The best security for Android is your brain.
I'm back to loving my Pixel 2!
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How did you go back to Oreo? what is a safe way to do it? is side load of Oreo firmware for my Canadian brand will do it?
Thanks - Itzik

I am still on Oreo with my pixel and wont go to Pie anytime soon! I need to root oreo and rock it now!

oneandroidnut said:
I am still on Oreo with my pixel and wont go to Pie anytime soon! I need to root oreo and rock it now!
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You can root Pie as well. However, if you use xposed, then don't :good:

Badger50 said:
You can root Pie as well. However, if you use xposed, then don't :good:
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i would use xposed so no pie for me lol

itzik_man said:
How did you go back to Oreo? what is a safe way to do it? is side load of Oreo firmware for my Canadian brand will do it?
Thanks - Itzik
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I did a full data wipe in TWRP, flashed the latest 8.1 rom with deuces script and then once back to 8.1 flashed Resurrection Remix custom rom etc

Pie looks nothing like iOS to me

I'm also tempted to go back to Oreo. I don't like many of Googles changes with Pie and that they are following apple in many things.

Kimbo82 said:
I'm also tempted to go back to Oreo. I don't like many of Googles changes with Pie and that they are following apple in many things.
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its a well oiled machine. I don't regret it for a second.

just got my pixel2xl come with 8.1
after my OG Pixel got pie, and it's feels not right, and i READ this, i decided to not update my pixel2xl
everything you said is true.

Having the Verizon Pixel 2 XL, I was unable to roll back. My options were to sell it and get a Google version or trade it for an LG V35 ThinQ and end up ahead. I went for the V35 and to be honest, I'm much happier with it. LG really improved the display over the Pixel 2 XL. The Snapdragon 845 is noticeably faster, 6 GB RAM offsets any efficiency difference. The headphone jack and MicroSD card support are a huge plus. Best of all, using LG themes and Substratum, I was able to get a clean dark theme without root.
I had a good run with the Pixel 2 XL on Oreo but it was time to move on. Yes, I realize that the V35 will get Pie eventually, but the framework for themes and customization is already there.

Over 75% of Pixel users are on Android Pie — why not more?
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/15/75-percent-pixel-users-android-pie/
Because of people like you! Just jokes. [emoji4]
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just bought pixel 2 xl and this october security update is really ****ty, even zooming photos and just panning in photos app gives jitters. can i revert back to september or august security update without unlocking the bootloader or rooting?

ashish7adlakha said:
just bought pixel 2 xl and this october security update is really ****ty, even zooming photos and just panning in photos app gives jitters. can i revert back to september or august security update without unlocking the bootloader or rooting?
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Nope. Bootloader needs to be unlocked. You don't need to be rooted.