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Available @ Gearbest for $149.99
So I saw the watch and was intrigued. I'm not expecting greatness, just more so something fun to play with. Has anyone else played with the Kospet Hope? or Optimus Prime? Anyone going to buy the Prime?
Specs:
Processor: MTK6739 1.25GHZ (Quad Core)
Operating System: Android 7.1.1
Display: 1.6" inch IPS LCD 400x400
Memory::32 GB ROM + 3 GB RAM
Battery: 1260 Lithium Polymer Battery
Sensors: Heart Rate Monitor, Pedometer, GPS
Camera(s): 5.0MP (2.0MP software update) Side:8.0MP (5MP software update)
BODY RESISTANCE: IP67 Water Proof
CONNECTIVITY
SIM Slot: Yes Nano SIM GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz WCDMA 900/2100MHz
WIFI: Yes WIFI 802.11b/g/n
NFC: none
Bluetooth: Bluetooth version: V4.0
USB: none
BODY
Size: 28.00 x 5.08 x 1.85 cm
Weight: 0.0830 kg
Casing: Ceramic
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So I've had a couple days to play with it. Here are my thoughts.
1: Mine came with what appears to be a bubble in the glass layers, and some chips in the bezel around the glass.
2: The watch is much lighter than I thought it would be for being so large.
3: Text can be small, but is still quite readable.
4: Things are resized for this watch's screen resolution. (It's Android OS, not Wear OS) When installing an application, some of the options (accept, install, yes, no), barely show up on the screen.
5: Build quality seems on par with the price. It's not "cheap" feeling, but also not "quality."
6: The camera quality is on par with what you'd expect for a camera put into a watch. It records as well as takes still pictures.
7: It's definitely snappier than my TicWatch Pro LTE for menu and most navigation, however there are some times when it doesn't shine as well (like when just trying to log in to my gmail account).
8: Battery life right now with installing apps, usage, screen going on and off, wifi on, bluetooth on, no sim, gps off, I'm at 93% (6 hours of I'd say heavy use with installing apps and setup).
9: The screen is VERY bright, but has the ability to dim it like a phone.
10: There are 11 watch faces built in. Most of the options are quite ugly but also contain some "transformer " looking options (I guess this goes with the "Prime" aspect of it.
11: You can set it to either metric or imperial measurements for your fitness tracking
12: The app that you can download for it is called WiiWatch (No relation to Nintendo I'm sure). It really only just shows your fitness tracking data and has a few settings.
The packaging is interesting, every box has Kospet on it. It comes with a screw driver, as well as additional screw(s), a screen protector, a charger + usb cable. I'd like to add that the usb cable plugging into the charger does not go in all the way, as well as the watch resting on it doesn't always make the best connection.
Current Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NUMauknhWG6d5m8w5
I've just bought it...
When I get it I can leave some insights if you want.
It's a great watch build quality super, the only thing it's font size on notification and the browser, install setting search and change the font size to large, leave the display size as it's. Good looking watch
duanim said:
It's a great watch build quality super, the only thing it's font size on notification and the browser, install setting search and change the font size to large, leave the display size as it's. Good looking watch
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Have you received it already? Mine says it was shipped today, so it will still take a few weeks I guess.
Is it well synchronized with your phone? Do you receive all the notifications from Messenger and Whatsapp without delays?
You have to share you internet connection in order to have those right? You share it from bluetooth?
Also, how's it in terms of battery life?
Thanks in advance!
I have received it. I didn't wear it for the weekend, and when I came back (after ~50h), it still had 50% of battery left. It gets the notifications via Bluetooth, dismissing them dismisses them only from the watch. I don't know if they are actionable. Then it disconnected and I stopped getting them, but oh well, at least it shows the time.
How do I install Wear OS on this thing? The original software is... ugh. On the watch you have just Android 7, but the phone app is typical Chinese sh*t with no settings and almost no functionality (just to disable some apps form sending notifications, view fitness data, battery level and download watchfaces with no search/sort options ). Doesn't let you configure anything on the watch remotely (and I don't like watch touchscreens that much...)
When I won the battle of enabling google assistant on the watch, and asked it to turn on the lights, it... googled the phrase. Even though it's the same account as I use everywhere else.
DrG0nz0 said:
Have you received it already? Mine says it was shipped today, so it will still take a few weeks I guess.
Is it well synchronized with your phone? Do you receive all the notifications from Messenger and Whatsapp without delays?
You have to share you internet connection in order to have those right? You share it from bluetooth?
Also, how's it in terms of battery life?
Thanks in advance!
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i did return mine because it have some dust debris between the display and i don't like Gear..****. So they don't have the watch anymore in stock, that is what they
said and they will give me the money back loosing expending $10 more in the transaction . so i did decide to buy the Lemfo Lem10 3/32Gb for $125 .
The Prime its pretty build quality and good looking,for me the downside was the resolution 400x400 for 1.6" inches display still the font size too small and for outdoors purpose the IPS display wasn't really good like the Zeblaze Thor Pro 3g Android 5.1, year old device.
Don't install or use the Wiiwatch companion app, instead use Watchdroid app its much better, yes you will get all the notification with more features and everything with Bluetooth connection, don't need for internet sharing. Go to Discouse Fullandroid watch.com and you will find all kinds of information.
duanim said:
i did return mine because it have some dust debris between the display and i don't like Gear..****. So they don't have the watch anymore in stock, that is what they
said and they will give me the money back loosing expending $10 more in the transaction . so i did decide to buy the Lemfo Lem10 3/32Gb for $125 .
The Prime its pretty build quality and good looking,for me the downside was the resolution 400x400 for 1.6" inches display still the font size too small and for outdoors purpose the IPS display wasn't really good like the Zeblaze Thor Pro 3g Android 5.1, year old device.
Don't install or use the Wiiwatch companion app, instead use Watchdroid app its much better, yes you will get all the notification with more features and everything with Bluetooth connection, don't need for internet sharing. Go to Discouse Fullandroid watch.com and you will find all kinds of information.
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Thanks so much for the tips man!!
With all syncronized did you get an estimative on the battery before sending it back?
DrG0nz0 said:
Thanks so much for the tips man!!
With all syncronized did you get an estimative on the battery before sending it back?
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no much time to play ,i did return it in 3 days after
I'll be making updates to the original post as I dig in some more.
Just came back from a hol in the states and met this watch on my desk. Nice build quality and as previously mentioned not as light as the size would suggest. Just installing apps on it now. Will get back on how it's going.. I have been using it pretty hevily and i have already drained 60% of power after 5 hours.. Not sure if this is acceptable but i can't keeep my hands off the thing so the display has been on for a fair while each time. Incidently, the battery came 100% charged.
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I'll be making updates to the original post as I dig in some more.
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any new reports from the last days?
A friend of mine already got it in England and he says that if you are using the WatchDroid app also the battery drains a lot!
Also, he says that it keeps disconecting, he needs to open the app on the watch to get all the notifications. Do you relate to any of this?
DrG0nz0 said:
any new reports from the last days?
A friend of mine already got it in England and he says that if you are using the WatchDroid app also the battery drains a lot!
Also, he says that it keeps disconecting, he needs to open the app on the watch to get all the notifications. Do you relate to any of this?
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Not entirely sure this is down to WatchDroid though I have uninstalled it now myself. My battery drain was mainly down to the Wifi adapter being enabled. this has definately been an issue with previous versions of the Kospet watch range and I suspect this may not have changed here. I was down to 50% battery within half a day with Wifi enabled.. Having disasbled it i am easily getting the best part of 2 plus days out of it with moderate use and disabling Wifi when not using it.
kingtendo said:
Not entirely sure this is down to WatchDroid though I have uninstalled it now myself. My battery drain was mainly down to the Wifi adapter being enabled. this has definately been an issue with previous versions of the Kospet watch range and I suspect this may not have changed here. I was down to 50% battery within half a day with Wifi enabled.. Having disasbled it i am easily getting the best part of 2 plus days out of it with moderate use and disabling Wifi when not using it.
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We found a solution in this forum:
https://discourse.fullandroidwatch.com/t/the-kospet-prime-official-post/50234/200
Apparently he doesn't "like" to have the WiiWatch and watchdroid on at the same time....once he deactivated all the WiiWatch services it's all good...
I'm still waiting to receive mine, it's been on Amsterdam wearhouse for a couple of days, smoking one out I guess...
Short review after a few days of use - Kospet PRIME
I am advanced user of the smartwatches since the first generation of Galaxy GEAR watch from SAMSUNG (SM-V700) with custom rom (full android)
It would be great to have similar watch with current up-to-date hardware - main request is to keep the camera placement facing outwards (on the body of the watch, not on the belt) to ensure that watch is water tight to 50 meters (at least to allow swimming/snorkeling with it – see Sunto watches for good water tight specs)
For Kospet Prime – Watch is nice but I have following (software) problems:
1. cradle connection sound would be nice to have – for now it is not sure that it is really well connected and charging
2. charging icon is displayed but too short time – please display it for longer or for whole time when watch is connected to the cradle
3. lack of ability to customize buttons (especially down button for camera operation for example
4. lack of configurable default applications screen – by sweeping right – after the list (or “apple style” apps icons) there should be possible to select 6-9 application shortcuts in the screen
5. lack of quick dial contact list (I need to be able to dial quickly to 6 or 9 contacts – activate call on the main phone when watch is in airplane mode, and activate call on the watch with SIM active
6. switching from round to square screen make the menu list invisible (ok after restart)
7. swipe up shall be customizable – instead of default sport application it should be configurable – for example to launch camera
8. temperature on the default watch screen is updated, however with delay (only when weather check is done)
9. video on the main camera is recorded VERTICALLY ???!!! WHY not horizontally ???
10. COMMUNICATION WITH PHONE when with watch in the “airplane mode” but with BT/wifi on - to see incoming calls notifications – who is calling. When (Connected normal big Android phone) phone is ringing – this shall be improved – please start to work with company Lumatic Software - and integrate/optimize well their application “Watch Droid” - in general please be more aware of the real use of the watch – in most cases watch is used WITH close integration with large phone (like Samsung NOTE10+) and all messages from phone shall be displayed on the watch, it should be possible to start phone calls from watch but ON THE PHONE with BT headset connected, so for example when You are riding the bike, there is no need to take big phone out from the pocket- You start the phone call from the watch, and talk over BT headset. Phone functionality in the watch itself is used only from time to time – for example if somebody goes to run or goes to the beach (that is why 5atm water tightness is needed) – just to be able to make quick phone call from the watch, without taking “big” phone on the run. In general – please copy the behavior (and stability ) of the Samsung watches, just keep the camera ..
11. Please allow to disable animation for time display – If somebody want to have quick look – it takes time the watch “stabilize” and shows real time
12. Screen on rising – works with delay – it is not stable for all the time
13. Default setup is missing calculator application.
14. temperature on the default watch screen is updated, however with delay (only when weather check is done)
15. contacts are displayed by first name instead of last name – I did not find the way to switch this setting for last name first
16. For desktop adaptation and functionality – please try to allow configuration as in NOVA LAUNCHER – to be able to set icons as needed, enable swipe actions, etc.
Hardware upgrade requests for “ideal watch”:
- 5 atm water tight – please make such watch really water tight to allow to swim/dive with it
- Cameras shall be placed at 12 hour Instead of 3 and face outwards (same as on SM-V700 Samsung watch) with second camera front facing.
- Camera shall record video in horizontal mode PLEASE!!!!
- Camera quality – please use 5MP camera sensor with good low light quality – there is no need for too many megapixels, but the camera shall offer good quality
- Two more customizable buttons on the left of the watch to launch custom applications quickly
- Wireless charging
- Reliable pulse/ecg measurement
lukasz said:
I am advanced user of the smartwatches since the first generation of Galaxy GEAR watch from SAMSUNG (SM-V700) with custom rom (full android)
It would be great to have similar watch with current up-to-date hardware - main request is to keep the camera placement facing outwards (on the body of the watch, not on the belt) to ensure that watch is water tight to 50 meters (at least to allow swimming/snorkeling with it – see Sunto watches for good water tight specs)
For Kospet Prime – Watch is nice but I have following (software) problems:
1. cradle connection sound would be nice to have – for now it is not sure that it is really well connected and charging
2. charging icon is displayed but too short time – please display it for longer or for whole time when watch is connected to the cradle
3. lack of ability to customize buttons (especially down button for camera operation for example
4. lack of configurable default applications screen – by sweeping right – after the list (or “apple style” apps icons) there should be possible to select 6-9 application shortcuts in the screen
5. lack of quick dial contact list (I need to be able to dial quickly to 6 or 9 contacts – activate call on the main phone when watch is in airplane mode, and activate call on the watch with SIM active
6. switching from round to square screen make the menu list invisible (ok after restart)
7. swipe up shall be customizable – instead of default sport application it should be configurable – for example to launch camera
8. temperature on the default watch screen is updated, however with delay (only when weather check is done)
9. video on the main camera is recorded VERTICALLY ???!!! WHY not horizontally ???
10. COMMUNICATION WITH PHONE when with watch in the “airplane mode” but with BT/wifi on - to see incoming calls notifications – who is calling. When (Connected normal big Android phone) phone is ringing – this shall be improved – please start to work with company Lumatic Software - and integrate/optimize well their application “Watch Droid” - in general please be more aware of the real use of the watch – in most cases watch is used WITH close integration with large phone (like Samsung NOTE10+) and all messages from phone shall be displayed on the watch, it should be possible to start phone calls from watch but ON THE PHONE with BT headset connected, so for example when You are riding the bike, there is no need to take big phone out from the pocket- You start the phone call from the watch, and talk over BT headset. Phone functionality in the watch itself is used only from time to time – for example if somebody goes to run or goes to the beach (that is why 5atm water tightness is needed) – just to be able to make quick phone call from the watch, without taking “big” phone on the run. In general – please copy the behavior (and stability ) of the Samsung watches, just keep the camera ..
11. Please allow to disable animation for time display – If somebody want to have quick look – it takes time the watch “stabilize” and shows real time
12. Screen on rising – works with delay – it is not stable for all the time
13. Default setup is missing calculator application.
14. temperature on the default watch screen is updated, however with delay (only when weather check is done)
15. contacts are displayed by first name instead of last name – I did not find the way to switch this setting for last name first
16. For desktop adaptation and functionality – please try to allow configuration as in NOVA LAUNCHER – to be able to set icons as needed, enable swipe actions, etc.
Hardware upgrade requests for “ideal watch”:
- 5 atm water tight – please make such watch really water tight to allow to swim/dive with it
- Cameras shall be placed at 12 hour Instead of 3 and face outwards (same as on SM-V700 Samsung watch) with second camera front facing.
- Camera shall record video in horizontal mode PLEASE!!!!
- Camera quality – please use 5MP camera sensor with good low light quality – there is no need for too many megapixels, but the camera shall offer good quality
- Two more customizable buttons on the left of the watch to launch custom applications quickly
- Wireless charging
- Reliable pulse/ecg measurement
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Thanks for the updates!!
From what I could gather, most of your problems can be solved if you install WatchDroid instead of WiiWatch and also put on a launcher (can't remember the name now). Don't forget that this is a fully-fledged android so we can tweak around all we want...
DrG0nz0 said:
Thanks for the updates!!
From what I could gather, most of your problems can be solved if you install WatchDroid instead of WiiWatch and also put on a launcher (can't remember the name now). Don't forget that this is a fully-fledged android so we can tweak around all we want...
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its going to be two years until we get something like that, i wish and we hope
:good:
duanim said:
its going to be two years until we get something like that, i wish and we hope
:good:
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I am already waiting 5 years since SM-V700 Galaxy gear watch... but I do not think that it will take that long right now - in fact it is jut the redesign of the watch case to move the camera to the top of the watch, and I hope that this new chassis will also be redesigned to feature 5atm water tightness. The rest of the watch is quite good - battery capacity in PRIME is 4 times!!! the capacity of SM-V700 (1260 vs 315 mAh) I have made custom setup for the watch and thanks to Watch Droid application in the v9.1.19.9 version (previous than the version available now in Playstore) it is possible to integrate watch with the android phone quite well.
I will try to publish YT video about it.
Are there any other forums I can check out for help with this watch? Anyone got a recommendation of companion app other than Wii Watch (utter toilet) or Watch Droid (flaky at best)
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Are there any other forums I can check out for help with this watch? Anyone got a recommendation of companion app other than Wii Watch (utter toilet) or Watch Droid (flaky at best)
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full android smartwatch
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full android smartwatch
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Please have a look what options KOSPET PRIME brings us after advanced setup - see my video at https://youtu.be/fdvKLo_uAhs
Related
Hey, does anyone tried already the new smartwatch from RWatch? There was a project on Pozible - http://www.pozible.com/project/194853
Now it is available on GearBest for ~45$. It is a nice price of a round smartwatch with heart rate monitor, IrDA, IP67 and nice look
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Look nice! I take a sit!
Enviado desde mi MX4 mediante Tapatalk
I have found only one video about it, and yes, it is from GearBest as well. Tbh the guy recording it could have done it better, but whatever.
The final look is a little different than rendered, but still looks nice
Currently I am waiting for one piece to be shipped, finger crossed.
https://youtu.be/d5TmX6bipk0
Hello, has anyone received/tried this watch??? I recently get it, and having problems with thw touchscreen response.
I should get it by the end of the week. What problem do You have exactly?
My biggest interest is the heart rate monitor; can it be left in the background with the pedometer to keep track of your heart rate during the day.
Or is it an app you have to specifically open to check.
Also, how is the android app selection, does this only work with the RWatch app, or do we have some other choices as well ?
@John_Edward as far as I searched for it, the app on the watch need to be opened. About the apps - will tell You in couple of hours, because today is the delivery day!
@MarianoRosario I will get it today's evening, You can ask me what You want to know
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@John_Edward as far as I searched for it, the app on the watch need to be opened. About the apps - will tell You in couple of hours, because today is the delivery day!
@MarianoRosario I will get it today's evening, You can ask me what You want to know
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Ok, let´s see what do you think of it. I´m steel having serious troubles with my touchscreen. From time to time it won´t respond to anything, and all of the suden, it start again. (sorry for the bad english...)
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@John_Edward as far as I searched for it, the app on the watch need to be opened. About the apps - will tell You in couple of hours, because today is the delivery day!
@MarianoRosario I will get it today's evening, You can ask me what You want to know
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What do you think for this R11? Touch, app, and sensor, work fine?
First impressions
@MarianoRosario You should respond to seller about it, everything works fine for me with the touch - to be honest that is the only part I am 100% sure that will work when I want it to work
So I guess it is something with Your device. And if You bought it on GearBest they should respond.
@ilrisolutore I must say that touch is really good. I am even capable of choosing the correct number from dialpad at the first try (but ofc I tested it like 15 or 20 times, not something for everyday use for me).
Apps... You have 3 screens with them.
On the first there is message, contacts, recent calls, dialpad, bt settings, media control, remote camera, notifications and stopwatch.
On the second antytheft, power save, sound options, pedometer, compass, face changer (analog or digital), sleep tracker, main settings and date configuration.
On the last one there is alarms, reminder (like if You sit x minutes, You should move), heart sensor, IR remote and language changer.
So. The heart monitor works fine, but is not perfect. It does check Your pulse from almost every part of Your body - it can be on the wrist, it can be finger or leg. The score can be a little different then normal (I found like +- 5 bpm difference). But it does work properly - when You start to work out or run it does show You upper score, when You point it at something that does not live, it shows nothing. But You have to have the app opened to check it, it does not work in the background nor saving the results.
IR remote is great, You need to use Your normal remote to programm it, but after it - really good.
Pedometer is kinda ok. It does have steps + meters score, but it is not that accurate.
Turning on the watch automatically when the hand is rised works like 50/50. But even if, there is a 3-4 sec lag, so You will press the button for sure if You are interested about the time.
Compass works good after calibration.
Alarm is ok, it can vibrate or play some of predefined sounds.
But I have couple of problems with connection. Maybe it is because of MiBand, which I didn't unpair for the time using R11. Will see. But when connected - it works fine, showing up to 5 new notifications. If it is Twitter/Messenger or SMS You can for sure read whole message. And that is cool.
About the battery - when I tested it, using heart monitor, IR, vibration and dis/connecting all the time it handled 5 hours of sleep + 10.5 hours of work. Today after ~9h of work I have 3/5 of battery (but I turned off vibration, since the MiBand vibrates). So I guess it won't stand more then one day.
During the weekend I will try to upload the unboxing, both in Polish and English
After it, I guess at the end of the month, I will upload whole review (probably polish language + english subtitles).
If You have any questions - tell me
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@MarianoRosario You should respond to seller about it, everything works fine for me with the touch - to be honest that is the only part I am 100% sure that will work when I want it to work
So I guess it is something with Your device. And if You bought it on GearBest they should respond.
@ilrisolutore I must say that touch is really good. I am even capable of choosing the correct number from dialpad at the first try (but ofc I tested it like 15 or 20 times, not something for everyday use for me).
Apps... You have 3 screens with them.
On the first there is message, contacts, recent calls, dialpad, bt settings, media control, remote camera, notifications and stopwatch.
On the second antytheft, power save, sound options, pedometer, compass, face changer (analog or digital), sleep tracker, main settings and date configuration.
On the last one there is alarms, reminder (like if You sit x minutes, You should move), heart sensor, IR remote and language changer.
So. The heart monitor works fine, but is not perfect. It does check Your pulse from almost every part of Your body - it can be on the wrist, it can be finger or leg. The score can be a little different then normal (I found like +- 5 bpm difference). But it does work properly - when You start to work out or run it does show You upper score, when You point it at something that does not live, it shows nothing. But You have to have the app opened to check it, it does not work in the background nor saving the results.
IR remote is great, You need to use Your normal remote to programm it, but after it - really good.
Pedometer is kinda ok. It does have steps + meters score, but it is not that accurate.
Turning on the watch automatically when the hand is rised works like 50/50. But even if, there is a 3-4 sec lag, so You will press the button for sure if You are interested about the time.
Compass works good after calibration.
Alarm is ok, it can vibrate or play some of predefined sounds.
But I have couple of problems with connection. Maybe it is because of MiBand, which I didn't unpair for the time using R11. Will see. But when connected - it works fine, showing up to 5 new notifications. If it is Twitter/Messenger or SMS You can for sure read whole message. And that is cool.
About the battery - when I tested it, using heart monitor, IR, vibration and dis/connecting all the time it handled 5 hours of sleep + 10.5 hours of work. Today after ~9h of work I have 3/5 of battery (but I turned off vibration, since the MiBand vibrates). So I guess it won't stand more then one day.
During the weekend I will try to upload the unboxing, both in Polish and English
After it, I guess at the end of the month, I will upload whole review (probably polish language + english subtitles).
If You have any questions - tell me
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Thanks, good response
No.1 Sun S2 Smart Watch it's better then this?
For sure bigger and much more shiny. I think that is a basic question - what is Your taste?
R11 is much more elegant and is a little bit more like a classic normal watch.
If you wanna have a go with some different apps, I've listed a few that could work here.
Even if they don't work would be good to know.
And for battery life, there is a giant difference between true standby and daily use.
The R11 was advertised as having over 100 hours standby (4 days), but no info on screen-on time.
But I'll use my Nexus 7 tablet: Stand by time is roughly 8 days, or 216 hours (18mAh or 0.46%/hour). Screen on, you get 6 hours at 17%/hour.
So for each hour you have the screen on, you lose roughly 37 hours of standby time.
Something similar will happen for the R11.
But hey, as long as it lasts from when you wake up till you go back to bed, does it really matter ?
ilrisolutore said:
Thanks, good response
No.1 Sun S2 Smart Watch it's better then this?
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A really hard question.
The camera on the S2 is useless, the charging dock is really nice, and the body is completely subjective.
The big difference would be the software, but you can't really compare them without actually having both.
If you are deciding between the S2 and R11 and really can't decide, look at your wrist; if it's big, get the S2, if it's small, the R11. And by big I mean gigantic, the S2 is huge.
Hello! Which notifications work on this watch? I use Viber and Facebook Messenger alot. Will Viber work? What about mail syncronisation? I use gmail and my work mail... Thank you for your answer! Greetings from Croatia
@John_Edward I cannot install "MediaTek SmartDevice" - Error 505. And from the other apps only SmartWatch is working correctly (and is recommended by the company itself).
About the time - it is a problem if it not last all day And if somebody want to use it for the alarm or sleep tracker, then it will be also a problem.
@kkranjc7 All notifications. You can choose it in the app and then if the message comes (it can be an e-mail, TT, facebook etc.) it will be displayed on the watch (see example below). Also greetings from Poland I have visited Croatia 2 years ago, great country!
505 basically means you already have an app that steals a certain permission for itself, so no other similar apps can be installed at the same time.
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Oh, good to know, thanks. It is probably because of the app for MiBand, will see.
Also I tried to use the R11 with my BlackBerry Z10, but it is a no go - the watch is seen by BT as an external keyboard. And since there is no option to change the default input method, when the device is connected You cannot input any letters. So the R11 is not for BlackBerry OS.
I need help setting up the TV remote control, I do not have the instruction for setting it up. Can you sent me a link or a copy of the instruction it would be greatly appreciated.
@krambrown You need to have the original remote control. Then enter the 'television' or 'other' section, aim the IrDA from remote control at the IrDA in R11 and press the key You want to program. Repeat for all the buttons.
So e.g. You want to program the on/off button for Your Samsung TV, enter 'television' in R11, take the Samsung remote control and aim at the R11 IrDA. Then press the on/off button on Samsung remote control while pointing at smartwatch. If successful, the R11 will vibrate and highlight next button to program.
Can you write a response for an SMS straight from the watch ?
How about email, whatsapp, hangouts etc ?
Also, one issue that came up for another watch; if you have an sms with an emoji, how does the R11 behave ?
Some watches completely refuse to show any messages with emojis in them.
Hello
I've received this watch two weeks ago from Hong Kong
I open this thread to share my impressions with other users of this smartwatch.
1st impressions:
- contruction: material are very good. it's not easy to insert sim card
- update: i've installed one OTA update on 24/07, no changelog provided
- wifi: ok
- battery: not good, 1/2 day with normal use (bluetooth, gps on, sync off, automatic screen on shake off)
- apps: the apps like play store are not fitted to the round screen so it's really hard to use it
- runtastic: not compatible
- apps from play store : can't use some installed apps (after install are not listed in launcher)
- health functions: heart rate seems to be inaccurate. it's impossible to have a continuos monitoring with preinstalled app.
- calls: no problem, voice is clear with speakerphone. mic is ok.
- OK Google functions: really hard to set-up because of round screen. OK Google detection works (only with open app? maybe for some lost set-up)
- root: from settings menu you can unlock bootloader
phone app: sometimes my phone (oneplus one) can't connect to the paired watch. the app Sinwear is not the best...
TWRP port: here thanks to @cyrux75
TWRP installation instruction
and FINALLY... ROOT ACCESS thanks to @split52
1st custom ROM with TWRP and flash tooldowload here thanks to @split52
useful PIE app (better than system swype IMO) handy soft keys
stock rom with flash software
OTA from Zeblaze update 08/10/2016 TWRP flashable
new watchfaces for rooted watches
new modded rom 13-10-2016 thanks to @split52
I will constantly update this thread.
update: reply from Zeblaze support center
artyfarty said:
Hello
I've received this watch two weeks ago from Hong Kong
I open this thread to share my impressions with other users of this smartwatch.
1st impressions:
- contruction: material are very good. it's not easy to insert sim card
- update: i've installed one OTA update on 24/07, no changelog provided
- wifi: ok
- battery: not good, 1/2 day with normal use (bluetooth, gps on, sync off, automatic screen on shake off)
- apps: the apps like play store are not fitted to the round screen so it's really hard to use it
- runtastic: not compatible
- apps from play store : can't use some installed apps (after install are not listed in launcher)
- health functions: heart rate seems to be inaccurate. it's impossible to have a continuos monitoring with preinstalled app.
- calls: no problem, voice is clear with speakerphone. mic is ok.
- OK Google functions: really hard to set-up because of round screen. OK Google detection works (only with open app? maybe for some lost set-up)
- root: from settings menu you can unlock bootloader
phone app: sometimes my phone (oneplus one) can't connect to the paired watch. the app Sinwear is not the best...
So, other users are welcome to share his impression, apps, tips, etc. :good:
I will constantly update this thread.
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Hi,
i also have the bluetooth problem, it´s instable, and i try to work with smartwach app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ble.SmartWatch) but it won´t let me do bluetooth tethering, i´m not using SIM.
try to install S Health, but does not allows me, it asks for sim card, wich i not use.
Oscar
I bought the Lemfo Lem3 which seems to be exactly the same as the Blitz.
The biggest issue for me is the battery life.
Even with GPS, Bluetooth and WiFi turned off the battery last only about 7hrs. The specs stated 3hrs talk time, but the battery runs out after about 30min when making a phone call.
The battery life is a show stopper for me as I don't want to have to charge it several times throughout the day.
Yes, I confirm, bluetooth is not working good, can't receive notifications from phone and sinwear can't sinchronize watch data.
artyfarty said:
Yes, I confirm, bluetooth is not working good, can't receive notifications from phone and sinwear can't sinchronize watch data.
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Hi,
I also confirm, bluetooth disconnects every time.
I have an iphone 6, I have tried sinwear app for IOS and the first time when you pair the "blitz" with the app, I receive all notifications from notification center and I can receive call notifications, SMS, mail, ... but after, 1 hour, 2 hours the smartwatch loses the bluetooth connection.
Sometimes it loses also the language configuration and date/time.
I have tried also install other BT apps like LE or BLE and I have the same result.
"Bluetooth disconnects!!!"
In the specifications from smartwatch says that the ios is in development, maybe is the reason for notifications, but I think that the problem for the bluetooth is for all platforms.
I seems that they have a big problem with this.
The battery life if you put hand bright screen to off is better, for me all day.
Hi,
Hi,
I hesitate between several watches, Zeblaze Blitz, No1 D5+ and K9. The only one certified IP67 is the Zeblaze so I think this is my preference.
Can you tell me if it's Micro (as most of phones) or Nano Sim (as iPhone 5, 6,...) ?
Do you think it's possible (using GSM with the watch) to hangup and answer textos with the phone connected by bluetooth ? It's easier to use phone keyboard instead of the watch one.
Is it possible to spell the texto instead of using keyboard ?
Is it possible to download and install new watch faces ?
Many thanks
Sorry for my english...
nano sim
for bluetooth features, read previous posts, all users (me too) have problems with bluetooth.
watch faces: you can use only the installed ones (approx 20 watch faces)
spell the text: you can use "ok google features" to make calls, send sms and whatsapp without keyboard
ciao!
ancor said:
Hi,
Hi,
I hesitate between several watches, Zeblaze Blitz, No1 D5+ and K9. The only one certified IP67 is the Zeblaze so I think this is my preference.
Can you tell me if it's Micro (as most of phones) or Nano Sim (as iPhone 5, 6,...) ?
Do you think it's possible (using GSM with the watch) to hangup and answer textos with the phone connected by bluetooth ? It's easier to use phone keyboard instead of the watch one.
Is it possible to spell the texto instead of using keyboard ?
Is it possible to download and install new watch faces ?
Many thanks
Sorry for my english...
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Bluetooth is a problem on all these sinsoft launcher based watches I2, S99, Blitz, KW88 etc etc
Battery is also terrible on all except the I2 - if on the newer firmware - but this has phone-call related bugs.
Watch Faces are a no go until we get more info from the Manufacturer - it's coming in August most likely.....
They all use a nano sim.
PS: DO NOT TRY TO CROSS FLASH FIRMWARE ON THESE WATCHES - you will end up with a bricked watch.
They all have security checks built in to prevent this.
update: watch is on, battery at 64% --> watch shut down itself. plug in charger --> battery at 0%.
I am very happy about this watch.......................
i am so far ok with this.
yes battery wont last long. But usually i just use it for strava without 3G. battery seems to last long with that.
I think after root it should get better. Not sure how to do though
Any idea how to do backup?
artyfarty said:
update: watch is on, battery at 64% --> watch shut down itself. plug in charger --> battery at 0%.
I am very happy about this watch.......................
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Same problem here. It dies when it's supposed to have around 50-60% left. I'm going to RMA my watch and hopefully get refund. Trying to record when it happens at the moment. We'll see what happens I guess :crying:
After update my gesture clock is bugged (i think). No mater which face i put it will on gesture move show same one... Is this the case on your Blitz ? after ota update ?
donmarkon said:
After update my gesture clock is bugged (i think). No mater which face i put it will on gesture move show same one... Is this the case on your Blitz ? after ota update ?
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same here
apn settings is missing
Hi guys,
I am quite surprised with your bad experiences with this smartwatch because I am very pleased with my Zeblaze Blitz for now.
I have it since 2 weeks and am very satisfied with it. So I upvoted it
I use it as a companion with my phone and only use bluetooth with tethering to have internet on the watch. The bad part with tethering is that I have to activate my bluetooth as a modem on my phone each time I activate it and then go to bluetooth settings on the watch, find my phone and check "Internet access" to enable it. Doing this each time is quite frustrating...
Synchronization is done with the sinwear official app and I receive all notifications from my phone (mails, hangouts, sms/mms, phone call) without a problem.
I tested SWApp Link which works pretty well (new possibility to respond sms and hangouts directly from the watch AND to reject phone call with or without a message, respond did not work for me) and add new watchfaces but it drains the battery too fast for a full day use.
The only bluetooth deconnections I noticed are when I go too far from my phone and I need to resync the watch via sinwear on the phone when I am back but it took only a few secs.
My build is Z9-KY-V06, I made an update directly through the watch right after getting it from Z9-KY-V04 (I think it was a 4 at the end but I am not sure at 100%).
The battery lasts a little more than 2 working days, I power it up when I go to work and power it off shortly after coming back home so I will say it lasts around 25-28hours in my usage. I am actually at 15% on my third morning and will need to charge it not long after lunch.
I did'nt try yet its waterproof functionality but I will tell you if it's still working when drenched while running
Podometer is not that accurate (according to it I make some steps while just gesturing or typing on my keyboard while seated) but give a good idea of what you travelled.
I hope it will help you, do not hesitate if you have any question
PS : My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo.
PS2 : I tested Pokemon GO for my wife with GPS and wifi activated and it is working ! I cannot say more because I won't give her my new watch nor am I interested in that game, but if some of you guys are...
I'm have this smartwatch but brand Lemfo Lem3. i can't connect with Android Wear, can paired but can't connect stuck in updating screen, Any solve problems ? when i install Sinwear, i understan't but language in chinnese (mandarin), How i install Sinwear in english ? what this smartwatch add watch faces ? how ?
thanks and sorry with my english.
We cannot add new watchfaces for now but you can follow the community "Round Android Smartwatches- ROMs, Faces and FAQs" on Google+ (can't add links), if something new emerges it will be indicated there !
Did you flash the sinwear code directly from the watch ? I downloaded it that way on my phone and it was in english.
Maybe it's different with Lem3 than with Blitz.
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I tested gesture clock and it always shows for a short second a minimalistic but nice 4 digits bi-colour hour minute. I think it shows my watchface before I updated but I can't say for sure because I didn't use that a lot.
I don't find it problematic not to have the full clock face when just wanting to check the hour, I think it's better for the battery life. But this behavior requires to push a button each time we want to really use the watch and not only check the time.
Talking of battery life I didn't precise that I use a custom level of brightness somewhere between mid and low and that I deactivated all sounds. I am sure those two steps greatly helps my watch longevity
i cant conecct with usb and my pc, this is possible with this watch?
Yes it is, but you need to plug your watch to its charging dock first.
If it is not working try activating usb debugging in the developer menu on the watch.
Some other people have a problem with their battery, unplug and plug it again a minute later seems to solve some problems.
If yours persists you should contact the vendor.
Hi,
How to upgrade build number? My Blitz is having Z9-KY-V03. I am using Wireless Upgrade and see a message saying "This version is not configured in FOTA server"
Hi,
I was searching for a Smartwatch and ended in ordering a (Chinese) Lemfo LF16 with full Android 5.1, ...
Interesting for me was that it seems to be a nice watch, smartphone functions, all connectivities possible and also some health function like pedometer, etc.
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-Watch LF16
Someone else having this one and already experience?
What are you thinking of this watch?
When I receive my, I will post feedback...
Thanks
giovanne
I'm anxious to hear more from people on this, and if there are any hacks and such for it. I dreadfully searched for days for the standalone smartwatch that was best for me, in the price range of this thing, and settled on this one for it's quick access sim slot (I will be alternating between this and the Nexus 5X), loud speaker (which is on the side, not on the wrist/bottom) because I need to hear my notifications), big screen, and not overly geeky looks. Hopefully it's as good as it seams and I don't regret my choice!
Well,
Here is a quick list of what I have discovered so far. Depending on what you will be using it for, you will either really love it or really hate it!
I'm using it mostly for the Bluetooth MP3 player features in addition to the basic watch.
Pros
• Nice design ala "Gear S3
• I can finally walk down the street with my Bluetooth music playing and swinging my arms without intermittent cutting out!
• The Bluetooth sound reproduction is really good even with stock player.
• Speaker nice and load.
• The weather update now works using your phone data and no longer request that you turn on your GPS.
• Access Sim with requiring the removal of back cover.
• Got rid of the ugly backgrounds within Notification screen, just a sweet black (well almost black)
Cons
• Operating system seems very beta as it has the most ugly watch faces ever released for a Lemfo Android watch, and leaves us with only 2 tolerable faces (hence incomplete OS)
• Unable to load up custom watch faces via "Clockskin any more.
• Watchstrap LUGS have been removed so not custom watch strap mods
• Silver bezel only comes with white band.
• Watch strap is very flimsy compared to the silicone strap available with the X3 Plus
• Watch is toted as, "Ultra thin" but it is not. The bezel is low profile, but there is more to the body although beveled in, so the watch has an unattractive umbrella look to it.
• Bezel is not stainless steel but some other lighter metal, maybe Aluminum or Titanium Alloy, so the quality feels almost Toy like. (so don't bump it!) My X5 still rules!
• Lemfo cut cost by providing a less than adequate charging cable that has poor magnet strength.
• I bought two of these watches and only one of the chargers worked. (Murphy's Law)
• When booting to recovery, there is no way to navigate the menu as it only has one button
• When navigating some of the app functions user is unable to adjust a function that requires swiping as this brings you back to a previous screen (Try to increase the volume by swiping without backing out of the function!
• Still unable to add App widgets to existing basic three (weather, fitness, music etc)
• Some screens don't allow you to go one step back by swiping right, but instead you have to press the power button and start again.
• At times "Data" connection seems to keep turning it self off. I think it happens after phone goes to sleep for a period of time, but the function to disable "turning off the data" is no longer within the "Display" section.
• Screen is promoted as, "Amoled" but the blacks still appear back-lit!
Enable Data
Update,
Enabling data now has its own icon within the quick access screen. I think that I was disabling this, not knowing what it was and therefore concluded that the data was turning itself off.
Thanks for the really good and detailled feedback.
I got mine LF16 also in the meantime.
Overall I can agree with you "Star_Inc".
For my first tests and usage I only want to use it as "normal" clock/watch and to try the pedometer.
For the first tests and to have max. bat-life I use the watch in Flightmode without (GPS, GSM, WLAN,...)
For the normal clock I tested with custom ClockFace handling.
- apk - Clockfaces available for the KW88 clock will work on the LF16 too
- "ClockSkin" folder method works with e.g. the (standalone) launcher/app from Eric: http://roundandroidwatches.proboards.com/thread/267/standalone-clockskin-engine-apk-version
First pedometer tests where ok - will go on testing
Bluetooth with my Oneplus 3 Smartphone is working (but I don't like all the notifications on the watch)
Bluetooth filetransfer from Smartphone to LF16 is working (e.g. useful when transfering a new apk to the watch)
The suggested APP WiWear(SinWear) for the phone to connect is "horrible"!
I will go on testing...
does anyone know how i enabled syncing?
What about GPS accuracy? And battery life?.
Hey Guys
I have already received my watch i agree with stark_inc, but i see the quality of the bezel is good
the overall feedback after 2 days is good, except 2 things
1. the terrific support program WiiWear (SinWear), this is the only way to connect the watch to my phone, unfortunately failed to connect it to Android Wear, MediaTEK Smart Device or Fundo, i hope some body helps with this
2. i cant add more watch faces also
for battery life it is ok to keep in your hand 1 day (provided you don't go through it many), thickness is ok, i think it was to be better if it is 1.3" instead of 1.39"
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Daisuke1988 said:
does anyone know how i enabled syncing?
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Only i can sync the watch to the phone through the rubbish program WiiWear
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Hav4k said:
What about GPS accuracy? And battery life?.
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if you are going to use it much, it won't go with you for 1 day
turning off wifi will support battery significantly
GPS is ok i get my location exactly
Hey Guys
I tried ClockSkin Launcher and it is working fine
the major issue for me now that i cannot connect the watch to the phone except via this very poor WiiConnect (SinaWear) app, even it doesn't sync the steps and it really fool app, i hope someone can help how we connect the watch to Apps like Android Wear or any other useful app!
I'm Working On Something Wonderful!
Hey ladies and gentlemen,
If you are an owner of a LF16 or KW88 or LEM3 or BLITZ you are aware of the annoying inconsistent configuration of their custom watchface implication, and as a result some have been pulling their hair out trying to devise of ways to accomplish this the caliber of ClockSkin.
My solution is to do away with the entire operating system and install a ROM that supports native ClockSkin.
This work is in progress, but if successful we can then do away with this line of watches headaches, and focus our creativity to produce ClockSkin compatible faces.
I'll keep you updated!
And yes, this is a custom LF16 hardware!
@Stark_Inc, hey man, if you can do that, kudos, I'll try it out. Can you elaborate on what you're doing, other than making a ROM for these phones? What is it based on? Stock? Or using LF16 rom and just editing the watchface handling?
I think a new ROM is certainly not a bad idea if it can be done - it may allow us to more easily fix the rest of the problems, which I agree are many.
I'm soooo disappointed with this thing (LF16). I chose it because of the easy access of the SIM card because I thought I'd like to swap between phone and this, but the battery life, if the watch is used, SUCKS, and charging "in the field" is pointless given how lousy the connection is (bad format anyway). Starting to think what I would have preferred isn't a full android watch in the first place - but more like Android Wear. I'm really hoping people who are smarter than me save the day with new ROMs and other fixes to make it worth owning.
I didn't spend 100 bucks for a watch. I honestly don't care a whole lot for watches (jewelry in general), I paid for a smart device. What is the point if you can't use it all day - which you can't. You can use it as a watch all day. I haven't had the guts to try it with my sim card yet. I doubt it would be much better. But turning off BT and WiFi certainly improved battery life by a TON. But what's the point?
I thought it would be easy to find a replacement companion app for this thing (for smartphone) but nothing works with it. Even the one they want you to use is not only **** even it if it worked, but for me crashes (Nexus 5X with 7.1.1) ever time it connects. I can't track fitness for ****. Even Google Fit - um, where's the heart-rate data collection? I tried apps both directly on the watch and the Nexus - nothing seems to collect historic data.
I think some of my problems are more with "stand-alone Android" watches more then the LF16, but since this is my first, I could be wrong.
KW88/LF16 Lite and Clean
So i'm moving away from my original idea of porting a "ClockSkin" friendly rom, and instead I am working to make the KW88/LF16 Rom more cleaner, lite'r and battery friendly. In fact, I have sought of started to make the UI more like the GEAR S3. I'll keep you posted.
Oh. I've also installed my own clock face of preference within the existing WatchApp engine, and I am sure I should be able to activate other dormant faces in the future.
someone try to add this keyboard ? https://www.kickstarter.com/project...oard-the-first-dedicated-smartwatch-k?lang=fr
i'm looking to a faces like this too, i love one hand watch
Stark_Inc said:
Hey ladies and gentlemen,
If you are an owner of a LF16 or KW88 or LEM3 or BLITZ you are aware of the annoying inconsistent configuration of their custom watchface implication, and as a result some have been pulling their hair out trying to devise of ways to accomplish this the caliber of ClockSkin.
My solution is to do away with the entire operating system and install a ROM that supports native ClockSkin.
This work is in progress, but if successful we can then do away with this line of watches headaches, and focus our creativity to produce ClockSkin compatible faces.
I'll keep you updated!
And yes, this is a custom LF16 hardware!
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This should be great!
One question, KW88 watch is almost (except camera) the same HW than LF16, Do you Know if it's possible to flash KW88 ROMs in LF16?. Support for KW88 seems to be much better than LF16.
Small back from this watch I have for less than a week, the battery holds about 8 hours, without playing too much, black screen, not the needles in permanent lighting, I hope the arrival of a rom by Stark_Inc It would be really good, optimize the duration of the battery, make that one can further decrease the brightness, I have a sim card in and the data connections active. If not, I find it beautiful. I would like the screen to display the hours all the time, with a duration of 10 hours would really bein, is it a dream? I am on the orange network france.
Hi, I'm waiting form my LF16 to arrive (I guess I would go with the LEM5 for the 1GB of RAM, but I've noticed it after my watch was shipped ),
I'm spending my time planning my actions with itm so...
- Is kingoroot working on this watch to gain root access?
- is it possible (and needed) to activate swap on this watch?
- any list of mods/customization existing - maybe a new thread, or a sticky?
I hope people can make this watch worth the money, as I read it is not really that good....
Hi. I got this smartwatch for my son for xmas and I have not being able to get a pre-pay service provider to get a sim card for it. my son does not have a cell phone that is why we got him the watch but where ever i take it they say that wont work with their network. Can somebody please help me to finish with my son xmas present.
Thank you
Hi ,
The watch work with : 3G WCDMA 850/2100 ; 2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900 quad-bandes Network .
You have to find the telephone company that uses its frequencies .
Has anyone though about installing a bigger battery on this watch? I have seen some on eBay up to 1200ma. This would definitely sort out the battery problems but I have no idea whether or not they are safe to install or even what type of battery this watch uses as I haven't opened it up.
Something I was thinking about doing but not sure if it can be done
Hi Karl, can you send me the links to the ebay store please ? tnx , now the automnomy of my watch the 3 / 4 days are 5 hours max !
I bought this watch about month ago. This was also my first Android phone. I would like to share my experience as I noticed many unanswered questions in D5+ threads here.
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First, why my review is suppose to be biased? It's biased simply because I'm not very typical user. I'm minimalist sort of. Yep, sounds funny when put in context with device that can do almost anything. So let me explain. I need no social media, no funny movies on Youtube, no camera. But I need badly phone on standby, gps with topo maps, and occasionally email or weather check.
Now some background of mine. I'm the happy owner of Nokia E52 - incredible device that offers phone, navigation, and (sluggish) internet. What is so special about this Nokia? Battery life. This phone runs Symbian and offers full day of gps navigation (Garmin!), gpx tracking (Endomondo) and phone availability. And weighs only 98 grams! Find me something like this with Android and I'm in.
I promised myself I will never buy phone that has everything worse than my Nokia. So why I was tempted to buy D5+? Well, I was tempted to have something even smaller and more convenient - also safer when resting on my wrist. I was always too much afraid to attach my precious Nokia to bicycle handle bar. Watch phone looks like a prefect idea for cycling. You can hear navigation audio and cycle through the great unknown. At least that was my dream. In the same time I was painfully aware that buying Chinese watch for 100 bucks is naive - to say the least. Was it really a mistake? After a month of playing with the thing I'm almost ready to say no. Why I'm not sure yet? Just because I still don't know one thing - how durable is this watch. But if it appears to last - I can say - IT'S GREAT WATCH!
What are the main achievements of this watch?
1. Android. works really smooth. No delays. Apps open immediately - much faster than on my Nexus 7 (2012 - Marshmallow CM 13.1). Not even once crashed. Booting time is less than a minute. Nice and easy.
2. Phone service. After careful setup, I estimate phone can make 40 hours on standby (only 2G, no wifi, no bluetooth, no mobile data) I never really tested it that long. It's hard to leave new toy unattended. But when I left it for 8 hours sleep battery could go only 12% down. GSM module feels very reliable. Watch connects to the network immediately - no troubles at all.
Being a minimalist - crucial thing for me was to have standalone phone watch. I don't dig this idea to have one big phone on the butt and one smaller baby speaker on my wrist. I would rather hang an earing on my tit than carry two phones.
I wanted to have it all in one small piece. But what about talking to your wrist? Well, It's not that bad as it seems. You can rise your hand to your ear and pretend that you have a phone. Or hide behind the corner. Quality of the tiny speaker is not bad at all. But it used to be - at least in my piece. After taking off the cover I noticed that tiny piece of rubber seal (under the speaker frame - not the big round seal) is touching the membrane. After pushing it aside the voice became very clear. The 2G communication sometime lacks clarity but It's not the watch but transmission itself. My Nokia is not much better in 2G mode. Mike works good, I'm very well understood by the caller. I tested conversation while riding my bicycle - works fine.
3. Wifi works great. Range is not in any way inferior to my Nexus 7 or Onyx reader. Browsing internet is fast, downloading as well. I was able to walk around my home and listen to BBC radio with no breaks. Google Play store also works like it should.
Bluetooth pairs easy with my Plantronics stereo headset though max music volume seems to be rather low - contrary to the phone conversation.
4. Mobile data gave me some hard time before I discovered that I had to manually chose the right provider (roaming enabled). Automatic mode doesn't connect to the right network when it comes to data - sometimes I get it sometimes not. There is also other obstacle. Watch seems to take a lot of power to use mobile data. It heats up tremendously. 5 minutes of mobile browsing can take 10 % of battery! I think something is not quite right here.
5. Apps. This is a full Android so you can install anything. Round screen is the only limitation that comes to mind. The latest firmware does have optional square mode but it makes app UI even smaller so I don't use it/
Google voice search works really great. Phone understands me better than my people - unless I speak Polish. You can also download language pack for offline speech to text. Keyboard input is possible if you have good eyesight and steady hands. I tried also google handwriting - it works but I always have trouble with "l" vs "i".
6. Last but not least - GPS. My watch had to have working GPS. So before I bought it I watched this helpful video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJBM5Y2ULDc
And that's exactly like it is. You can get gps fix even in the building (by the window - no wifi, no data) but only when you don't wear your watch on the wrist. Hand introduces serious interference to the signal - also by changing impedance of the antenna - basically changing parameters of the whole hardware setup. I red some scientific papers showing that worst disturbance (lowest antenna gain) happened when gps patch antenna was 5 centimeters from the body. But... I found that outside it is good enough - even with my winter cloths on - to provide gpx tracking and basic navigation. I mean, when riding bicycle, it can lose fix for a while so it can skip the turn command but in general it works. You can see where you are
Now example: I made 4 hour trip (17 km.) through snowy mountains covered with dense forests. Watch was on my wrist under the thick winter clothing. Osmand navigation was all the time on with continues use of GPS setting. Half of the way I made in airplane mode and half in 2G with one short conversation. In the forest gps fix occasionally got lost but it recovered by itself showing my position nicely.
For some half an hour I used voice navigation to know where to make a turn. I was than in the open space, in the village and it worked like charm. I checked the map maybe 20-30 times total (rather shortly) and the watch lasted all 4 hours. I see ir as a successes. 450 mAh battery should be able to get charged 5 times by my powerbank so it's not that bad when comparing to big Android phones.
Below you can see actual gpx track of that trip - exported to Endomondo when I got back. As you see, altitude reporting is not reliable at all but otherwise gpx trail is not that bad. Osmand navigation has great topo capabilities so watch was really able to help me not to get lost (I had my Nokia in the backpack but I didn't use it).
Update: Osmand working in the background can sometimes make phone call hard to understand by the other person. So you can consider turning on "battery saving" before answering the call. This will disconnect the GPS.
I also encourage any hikers, cyclists to install Gpx Plugin. It let's you to automatically record the track but there is more to it - after right configuration it also shows actual live track in real time which greatly improves orientation on the small screen. You just know which way you got to the point you are in so you know which direction to head.
I'm thinking of buying some bluetooth GPS logger for longer trips - in hope of saving battery and improving accuracy. But it will be a compromise. After all I didn't want to have two devices on me...
No.1 D5+ Problems and solutions:
1. Settings. Watch lacks many of the settings available on average Android device. Solution: Setting Search app from PlayStore helps in finding hidden settings.
2. Quick access to your favorite apps is not that easy when you have to scroll down through all apps list (scrolling itself works great). Best solution for me: app called Swipe Padd. With correct setting and a little practice you can turn on your fav apps without even looking at the screen.
4. Small font for poor eyesight (like mine). Solution: Install Engineering Mode app and very carefully tweak font settings. Doesn't work in every app but now I can read sms with font bigger than on my Nokia E52.
5. App buttons and other stuff hidden in the corners. Solution: You can configure three tap zoom (hidden setting) and use it close to the edge. It will reveal hidden content. Other option is to configure watch to use square mode (newest firmware only)
6. GPS fix. Solution: reboot the watch - for me it works without using other popular methods like editing cfg file or downloading agps data. Watch is not rooted and it gets a fix while sitting on my window seal - with mobile data, wifi and bluettoh off, 2G and high accuracy on. If you still have troubles try to enable wifi to download agps data and install gps test to observe the satellite signals.(remember to turn off wifi when you go outside).
7. Osmand navigation UI troubles. Solution: You can use three tap zoom to operate hidden buttons or menu. It works. I edited original apk to show missing zoom-out, menu buttons etc. also made arrow larger (see the first photo above)
It's good to download Gpx Recording Plugin (from Osmand Plugin menu - it's free). With the right configuration it stops Osmand services when you close the app (by sweeping). Without it Osmand will still try to navigate you - even if you closed it by sweeping. To shut it up you have to reboot the watch or it will kill your battery. It's well known problem of Osmand where developers don't wish to listen to the users - they know better.
8. Battery life. Solution: turn off all possible syncs, disable whattsap, google location services, use 2G, mobile data off, wifi off, bluetooth off. If you are not navigating use watch with the battery saving mode (available from the home screen). Sim module still works.
9. Firmware update. I works via OTA quite fine. But I advice you before any upgrade to visit manufacturers site and read possible complaints from users. It saved me from troubles when I was about to update my firmware. I found it was buggy so I skipped install and waited for another firmware update. It came but on my watch the older bad update option persisted so I had to flash the new one from PC. I used this method: https://forum.hovatek.com/thread-439.html
To summarize, it looks that this is really good watch if it only stays this way. The biggest concern is a strap. I disconnected it from the watch on one side and it had two holes for antennas. There was a black antenna cable in one hole connecting strap to the watch. I guess that on the other side there are two antennas. It makes together three so one antenna has to have two functions. Anyway, for now strap seems to be sturdy but what will come with the summer sweat?
Certainly this isn't a watch for people who are afraid of tweaking this and that, reading and experimenting. They will always complain about battery life, small screen and hidden buttons. In general I find Android a geeky system. Level of knowledge to use it efficiently is quite high so if you don't enjoy problem solving better buy iPhone.
I've shared my experience in hope to help you decide if this watch can answer your needs. For those few that managed to read it all, please correct me if I've made any errors. Hopefully some development follows another happy users.
Update: Now, after using watch for the last half a year I can tell this: Watch definitely is not water proof. Water can get behind the screen and make screen go nuts. It persist for long until the thing dries form inside. There is a solution: I took my watch apart and applied sealant to the frame where screen glass comes. Then I pushed glass inside and used some pressure to make it tight. After that, watch is not afraid to be splashed with water - I use it also when kayaking.
When cycling, for the good GPS reception you can fasten watch around the brake cables of the bike. With this setup gps is almost as precise as of regular big phone. During longer rides It can be also safely charged in this position from power bank. Small 3000 mAh power bank will give you at least two full days of navigation and trip recording. All accompanied by active GSM module to tell your family you are fine.
Wow, what a long post.
Well, its ok to use it on wifi
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite, https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-hope-lite-4g-smartwatch-phone/
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite, https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-hope-lite-4g-smartwatch-phone/
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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I like it a lot, but the problem with it is the same as with other smaller Chinese brands: they don't provide any source code to the public, so everything has to be reverse engineered - the Kospet Hope already has TWRP and root, but a custom FW with all the goodies without the useless "Fitness" app (it would be nice, but the one on the watch is pure crap) and other bloatware would be AMAZING!
My advice is: the Kospet Hope 4G 3/32 is a great watch, but don't buy the Lite version if you haven't already ordered it. If you have, then you will enjoy that too! )
senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite,
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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Have had the Lite for 3 days and am quite disappointed. Great hardware, but useless firmware/OS, and there is no getting around it, that I have found...
The GPS is not working with the fitness app, so forget about tracing a map or route or whatever. Google Maps is useless, under this resolution.
You can check your pulse with the built in app, which is useless, no history or syncing to the phone. Even if it did, the accuracy is terrible. I had HIGHER pulse sitting in my car than during running.
Yes, you can download any app from the store, but remember the screen is 320x320... Do you have any idea how Facebook looks on 320x320?? It's half VGA!! Imagine that your phone screen is a quarter the size of you KEYBOARD. Now try to run the phone on that small size, that how an Android phone works and looks like...
Even the watch faces are terrible, and I still haven't found a way to add any.
It is a beautiful watch, quite bulky (too much), but it is mostly useless. If someone does a Wear Os ROM for it, it might be a killer watch, but definitely not with this firmware/OS.
Thinking of selling it and getting an Amazfit.
This seems like the same story for all these Chinese no brand watches: good hardware, garbage software !
Why don't they just open the whole thing up as open source and within a year you'd probably have a better platform than Android Wear. I guess they don't do this because then they wouldn't be able to hide all of the government mandated spyware to pillage your personal info.
Hope is the real deal.. Just wish the software was more customizable.
senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite,
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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Hi all,
I just got mine last week.
The good:
Great battery life
Full android means u can install anything .. if you choose to add anything.
Great specs and everything works like advertised.
All features work with no issues whatsoever.
Can put a sim card in it and make it work like a full phone.
Can import contacts from google and whatapp and so on.
Camera is great in lighted areas .. better than I expected but it is limited by watch size.
Screen is gorgeous and you get access to unlimited watch faces from google.
Bluetooth integration with phone and wireless and 4G work perfectly.
Waking screen on hand raise works great.
Ambient watch is perfect.
Screen and quality of the watch is top notch.
Charges back to full in an hour.
The wish list:
Better software that would allow you to customize your menus and move things around.
Ability to map the button presses so I can add google assistant to a button
Not so good:
Very hard to read the tiny letters of any messages you get in the menus
In bright sunlight it is hard to see the screen and the ambient clock
The charging cable connection can be weak and disconnect if in a shaking backpack.
Honestly, for the low price you pay and the battery life and quality you get, it is great and as it gets with smart watches.
Cheers.
Tony
"OK Google"
marley666 said:
Hi all,
I just got mine last week.
The good:
Great battery life
Full android means u can install anything .. if you choose to add anything.
Great specs and everything works like advertised.
All features work with no issues whatsoever.
Can put a sim card in it and make it work like a full phone.
Can import contacts from google and whatapp and so on.
Camera is great in lighted areas .. better than I expected but it is limited by watch size.
Screen is gorgeous and you get access to unlimited watch faces from google.
Bluetooth integration with phone and wireless and 4G work perfectly.
Waking screen on hand raise works great.
Ambient watch is perfect.
Screen and quality of the watch is top notch.
Charges back to full in an hour.
The wish list:
Better software that would allow you to customize your menus and move things around.
Ability to map the button presses so I can add google assistant to a button
Not so good:
Very hard to read the tiny letters of any messages you get in the menus
In bright sunlight it is hard to see the screen and the ambient clock
The charging cable connection can be weak and disconnect if in a shaking backpack.
Honestly, for the low price you pay and the battery life and quality you get, it is great and as it gets with smart watches.
Cheers.
Tony
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there is no need to map a button to get google assistant, you just go to settings, languages & input, virtual keyboard, select google voice typing, and then voice match, enable "ok google" any time and unlock with voice match and you'll be able to activate google assistant on any screen, that do not awake the watch unless you hit one button, but once you do just say "ok/hey google" working on my kopet Optimus pro
Firmware updates: http://bbs.kospet.com/forum.php?gid=44
For those who are interested: I got one
All firmware, hacking, tweaking and changing here on my page: https://sites.google.com/site/tweakradje/android/kospet-hope-lite
I bought the Kospet Optimus Pro and had problems with it after a day of use. The touch screen would go crazy sometime. Couldn't do anything with it. Did a few full reset, but eventually the problem came back. Think it was my last time buying a Chinese watch. In principle, the hardware specs is good. But, the software is garbage. And with me, the touch screen too. Upon searching in YouTube, I saw a person with the same problem. So, I would stay away from it. But of course, my was probably defective. Even so, I'll stick with a name brand that provide warranty within my country.
My findings after a month. No big issues.
firmware 03052019
Problems:
- wrist raise gesture doesn't always work
- some notifications disappear (like with OsmAnd/maps/vending and existing route)
- sort apps (by name) in launcher
- google voice search long press back-button?
- more accurate heart rate monitor
- glass in not gorilla glass, scratches
- screen consumes too much power
Whish:
- tap watch face actions like weather (on weather area on watchface) etc...
- round to square user zoom factor
- screen refresh rate to 30 Hz or less?
- set screen color intensity
- long press app in launcher > properties and uninstall
- extra launcher app overview like 3x3
- always on time digital/analog user selectable
Cheers
Issues on Kospet Hope
Hello
Cons:
1. the 400x400 resolution of display give us an impredictable screen which is hard to tap at the corner (the third-party applications like any browser give a very little interface who it is inoperable without apk who could changing the resolution of the screen).
2. the autonomy of battery is a big fault : with 2 hour of browsing in 4G connection, 7 hours of bluetooth connection with my Note 4 without screen on, half of the intensity of the screen all the time and 2 hours of working in settings tab,without 4G connection of mobile data it means 11 hours of a real life of battery! A big caca!
3. the keyboard is have many problems to tap at the edge so it very hard to write something in this tiny layout so facebook and Messenger are not suitable for these reasons;
4.Sometime the gesture"raise hand to turn on the screen" not works!
5. the wiiwatch2 it is big caca!
6. the Wach Droid Phone and assistant lose, ramdomly, the link with smartwatch (bluetooth connection)
7.My old smartwatch ZGPax S8 could make a decent browsing at only 240x240 pixels resolution, with translucent keyboard apllication "Flit Keyboard". The Kospet Hope it is in backyard, 10 years ago!
8. In charging mode with bluetooth on or wi-fi turning on, it is very hot
9. very thick! not for women!
10. a very unusefull interface of android 7.1.1
11. Iwill not buy another one !
Pro:
1.Speed.
2. Display Amoled
3. Sound
4.Good construction
5.Faces of watch
6.good camera pictures (5 MPx real, not interpolatwd by software) but worst video recording
senseijuan said:
Anyone with the Kospet Hope smartwatch? Seems like it has good specs and features, higher than Zeblaze, what is your verdict? But I think I will go with the Kospet Hope Lite, https://www.smartwatchspecifications.com/Device/kospet-hope-lite-4g-smartwatch-phone/
The Kospet Hope 4G has 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage space
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Hi there! Ive got the update but cant really instal ... the screen doesnt show the OK button , .... i switch on rectangularish mode but no luck eaven wost
tweakradje said:
My findings after a month. No big issues.
firmware 03052019
Problems:
- wrist raise gesture doesn't always work
- some notifications disappear (like with OsmAnd/maps/vending and existing route)
- sort apps (by name) in launcher
- google voice search long press back-button?
- more accurate heart rate monitor
- glass in not gorilla glass, scratches
- screen consumes too much power
Whish:
- tap watch face actions like weather (on weather area on watchface) etc...
- round to square user zoom factor
- screen refresh rate to 30 Hz or less?
- set screen color intensity
- long press app in launcher > properties and uninstall
- extra launcher app overview like 3x3
- always on time digital/analog user selectable
Cheers
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hello do you now how to unlock bootloader thnx?
@terminator152 ??? Never heard of bootlock on Koset Hope.
tweakradje said:
@terminator152 ??? Never heard of bootlock on Koset Hope.
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sorry im using BRAVE not Hope 6.0 android and bootloader is locked uff i cant find anywhere how to unlock it!!!!