Make T-Mobile think my 6T is a tablet? - OnePlus 6T Questions & Answers

I used an OP3T as a data only phone for years. I got a 6T at a good price, so I sold the 3T and went to the 6T.
It is now capping my speed at .5 mbps. I've done some digging and found out that they are capping it because it's a phone. I don't know if it's IMEI or Device ID, though.
Anyone have any suggestions?

Try changing your device fingerprint using MagiskHide Props Config. Just select a tablet and see what happens.
You will need Busybox as well for it to work.

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T-Mobile hotspot throttling

Hello guys. I'm trying to get my hotspot working correctly on my Nexus 6p. I'm on T-Mobile's unlimited plan. They charge an extra 25 a month for the 4g hotspot. So I'm trying to get around that by rooting my phone. Going to try and keep this long story short as possible.
I have two Nexus 6p's on T-Mobile, one is not rooted and I paid the extra 25 for there one plus 4g unlimited hotspot to make sure service was good enough to work at my house for my main ISP. It's working great, super happy with it. So I rooted the second Nexus to try and get the hotspot unlocked. It's working for the most part. I have 4g speed for most things but, it seams to throttle some things. Like Netflix, YouTube, and downloading games from Xbox live. Now I know T-Mobile throttles video to 480 p and I can live with that. What is really odd is when I try to download games on my Xbox it goes at like 50 kbps crazy slow. But I can play fps games just fine. And with the Nexus phone that I paid the extra 25 for a month to test it, it downloads games at like 60 mbps. So what I'm wondering if anyone knows how to get passed there throttling.
Gues I failed to keep it short lol. Sorry.
What I have tried so far is a Vpn, a few tethering apps, Inserting "net.tethering.noprovisioning=true" into my build.prop, and I did something in Command Prompt on my PC for the dun tethert value or something.
If anyone can give me some tips or help I would be very grateful for it!
PS first time poster sorry if too much or not enough Info or wrong info.
Ezeus07 said:
Hello guys. I'm trying to get my hotspot working correctly on my Nexus 6p. I'm on T-Mobile's unlimited plan. They charge an extra 25 a month for the 4g hotspot. So I'm trying to get around that by rooting my phone. Going to try and keep this long story short as possible.
I have two Nexus 6p's on T-Mobile, one is not rooted and I paid the extra 25 for there one plus 4g unlimited hotspot to make sure service was good enough to work at my house for my main ISP. It's working great, super happy with it. So I rooted the second Nexus to try and get the hotspot unlocked. It's working for the most part. I have 4g speed for most things but, it seams to throttle some things. Like Netflix, YouTube, and downloading games from Xbox live. Now I know T-Mobile throttles video to 480 p and I can live with that. What is really odd is when I try to download games on my Xbox it goes at like 50 kbps crazy slow. But I can play fps games just fine. And with the Nexus phone that I paid the extra 25 for a month to test it, it downloads games at like 60 mbps. So what I'm wondering if anyone knows how to get passed there throttling.
Gues I failed to keep it short lol. Sorry.
What I have tried so far is a Vpn, a few tethering apps, Inserting "net.tethering.noprovisioning=true" into my build.prop, and I did something in Command Prompt on my PC for the dun tethert value or something.
If anyone can give me some tips or help I would be very grateful for it!
PS first time poster sorry if too much or not enough Info or wrong info.
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Did you have any luck figuring this out? This is the same thing keeping me from getting a Nexus 6P on Sprint. My current phone (Note 4) has unlocked hotspot and is the primary WiFi for the house. Only things I've found are the build.prop line and adb thing you mentioned.
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WiFi Calling on AT&T

I have looked thru thread after thread for days and cannot seem to enable WiFi calling on my OnePlus 5 on the AT&T network, Does anyone have a clue?
I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile when I got my OnePlus, so I can't say for sure, but I believe AT&T limits WiFi-Calling to certain devices, and even then, only the AT&T variants of those. (Mostly newer and from big name brands e.g. Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG). Since to my knowledge even an unlocked Galaxy s8 won't have WiFi calling on AT&T, it is unlikely that any OnePlus device will ever have that ability.
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I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile when I got my OnePlus, so I can't say for sure, but I believe AT&T limits WiFi-Calling to certain devices, and even then, only the AT&T variants of those. (Mostly newer and from big name brands e.g. Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG). Since to my knowledge even an unlocked Galaxy s8 won't have WiFi calling on AT&T, it is unlikely that any OnePlus device will ever have that ability.
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Yes, I remember reading you can NOT do Wi-Fi calling on att with bring your own device.
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MrWilsonxD said:
Yes, I remember reading you can NOT do Wi-Fi calling on att with bring your own device.
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Le Pro3 is the only device that is BYOD and works on AT&T I believe.
Just another reason TMobile is the real deal
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Just another reason TMobile is the real deal
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Yeah, or any of their mvno's!
I was with family today in Anaheim, a highly populated, very modern city I mean Disneyland is there.
My dad has AT&T, I have mint sim (a t mobile mvno) I had near 70-80db signal, he was bouncing between 120 and up.. Had no signal whatsoever for extended periods of time. And with their low band frequency purchase, it's only getting better. It's anecdotal evidence, but still..
While I don't think t mobile offers the best network, I strongly feel they are going to get there in a couple years should they keep this up..
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I'm wondering about WiFi texting can the oneplus 5 do it? Also I noticed when in connected to WiFi I can't send any texts.
Att does not allow the 1+5, albeight the technology is there, to do VoWifi or VoLte. They reserve those features for devices solely purchased from Att, ie Only branded devices. If the Le eco does work it out of the box, that's awesome. Don't tell Att that, lol. I got into a huge argument with Att NatCs and filed troubleshooting tickets only to be told, sorry, since it wasn't purchased directly, no work. I have since made the move to TMobile. Im in NJ as a reference. And to be honest, I find the voice quality vastly better to what I had with Att, with hd voice too. I've hit some spots with little to no coverage, usually at a friend's house but my VoWifi kicks in and I have service once again with no issues.
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Many retail/unlock mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widget7.wifi.calling
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Many retail/unlock mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wikimediacom.wifi.calling
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Interesting app. But I'm not sure it works.
I install it, on my un-rooted OnePlus 5, then run it - hey! there's a convincing looking setting, for wifi - and so I activate it. But everytime I return to the app, the setting is 'off' again. Does that mean the setting doesn't 'stick' and my phone (running on AT&T) cannot actually use wifi?
Plus, it looks to me as though the app has to remain running (although there's a setting to not display the notification icon, it doesn't seem to 'stick' either).
Ultimately, I cannot seem to get my phone to actually make a wifi call. For this reason, I'm skeptical this app is able to enable wifi calling, on the AT&T network.
I just called ATT.
I want to upgrade to the 5 and i need it to call over wifi as most of the time i'm in a rural situation with no coverage.
The ATT tech support said there would be no problem.
I hate to say it, but they lied (unless there's been a drastic change as-of-late).
Even if you can get them to provision your 5T, it'll only "stick" for a minute or so, and then revert.
AT&T is somewhat "famous" for their lack of BYOD (non-branded) WiFi call/text support. The exception is iOS devices, and a couple of "certified" Android phones; I think the HTC 10 (or maybe it was the 9) was an example, you can probably count these on one hand.
I call At&T today. No changes so far.
AT&T has an issue like this forever, as they do not wish to give that option to all. That is like a drop in profits, and drop in latency and lags. Anyways, too long to explain, but the gist is, they will have loss if they allow full coverage (at least loss on journal entries)..
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at&t has an issue like this forever, as they do not wish to give that option to all. That is like a drop in profits, and drop in latency and lags. Anyways, too long to explain, but the gist is, they will have loss if they allow full coverage (at least loss on journal entries)..
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BOO... At&t... BOO!

Inconsistent 3G & LTE performance, defective unit?

Don't get me wrong, I love this phone despite the bugs. Software bugs.
However I've a serious issue regarding the 3G/LTE module. 3G/LTE performances are not consistent at all.
Sometimes it goes well (chatting, sending pictures, even testing the speed with a speed test) but other times the connection "hangs" and I'm not able to do anything for seconds or minutes (download pictures from whatsapp, sending text with telegram or open web pages). After that time, the connection seems to work again. When this Is happening, phone is at full signal.
Please note that I never had these issues with all my previous phones (Nexux 5, Nexus 5X, OnePlus 3T) with the same SIM card and under the same conditions (places, time of the day). I've performed all the updates available (software version 4.5.4) and cleaned the cache many times using the recovery.
I'm asking your help: is there some debug feature I can activate in order to see what is happening and understand the problem? Many thanks.
What carrier do you have?
ATT had to load my phone into there system. I'm in Seattle, WA USA
After they did that LTE has been perfect!
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Nick James said:
What carrier do you have?
ATT had to load my phone into there system. I'm in Seattle, WA USA
After they did that LTE has been perfect!
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Since I'm on ATT and I might get a OP5 I gotta ask how you went about this. Because I can see me telling customer service this and them not having the slightest clue what I'm talking about.
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Since I'm on ATT and I might get a OP5 I gotta ask how you went about this. Because I can see me telling customer service this and them not having the slightest clue what I'm talking about.
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Basically you'd call in and ask to register your phone. It's not actually necessary but they do this anyway when you ask for a replacement sim. All they do is get your IMEI off your phone and add it to your account. Though with the 3 it already showed up during use. I don't think it matters much at all. Haven't had an issue with the 5 in Wisconsin, Minnesota or Nevada. I've simply plugged in the sim to this phone and went on my way since day 1.
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Since I'm on ATT and I might get a OP5 I gotta ask how you went about this. Because I can see me telling customer service this and them not having the slightest clue what I'm talking about.
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Just to give you the big picture, I'll include everything that happened when I got my OP5 in terms of registering the phone on AT&T's network...
I got the OP5 and I came from a OPO, so I needed a new nano SIM card. I went to AT&T and they gave me a new sim but they were not able to get LTE signal at all. I was impatient and really didn't want to wait around so the rep and myself came up with excuses on why it wasn't working so I could get out of there. HSPA+ was the best I could get and it was about ~5Mbps up/down and I was happy with that for now.
I got home and decided to call in. Usual phone tree hell with AT&T began but I eventually got a level 2 Android technician. I will note the default values within the phone tree took me to iPhone support. Anyhow, the level two technician verified that my phone was not getting LTE. Furthermore, the device was not registered in the system at all. He gave me two options (which from the sounds of things, he wasn't supposed to do) 1.) I could just deal with the HSPA+ connection and it could take up to 5 days to fully load the phone but my phone would work perfect in terms of service/coverage/data rates (HSPA+) or 2.) He could load a Samsung S7 mock profile to my phone and it would more than likely work fine but don't hold him accountable for it. He said if it were him, he'd go for the S7 mock profile so I went with it.
Immediately I got an LTE signal and he had me reboot my phone. I've zero issues as he figured would happen and everything has been perfect. I got a confirmation text message from AT&T saying my phone will be loaded by July 6th and originally the technician told me around July 14th.
Anyhow, that was just my experience and a good experience at that. Of course, popping a sim out and back into a new phone would be ideal but a non-contracted AT&T device has to get loaded at some point and time I guess, right?
Cheers!
Nick James said:
Just to give you the big picture, I'll include everything that happened when I got my OP5 in terms of registering the phone on AT&T's network...
I got the OP5 and I came from a OPO, so I needed a new nano SIM card. I went to AT&T and they gave me a new sim but they were not able to get LTE signal at all. I was impatient and really didn't want to wait around so the rep and myself came up with excuses on why it wasn't working so I could get out of there. HSPA+ was the best I could get and it was about ~5Mbps up/down and I was happy with that for now.
I got home and decided to call in. Usual phone tree hell with AT&T began but I eventually got a level 2 Android technician. I will note the default values within the phone tree took me to iPhone support. Anyhow, the level two technician verified that my phone was not getting LTE. Furthermore, the device was not registered in the system at all. He gave me two options (which from the sounds of things, he wasn't supposed to do) 1.) I could just deal with the HSPA+ connection and it could take up to 5 days to fully load the phone but my phone would work perfect in terms of service/coverage/data rates (HSPA+) or 2.) He could load a Samsung S7 mock profile to my phone and it would more than likely work fine but don't hold him accountable for it. He said if it were him, he'd go for the S7 mock profile so I went with it.
Immediately I got an LTE signal and he had me reboot my phone. I've zero issues as he figured would happen and everything has been perfect. I got a confirmation text message from AT&T saying my phone will be loaded by July 6th and originally the technician told me around July 14th.
Anyhow, that was just my experience and a good experience at that. Of course, popping a sim out and back into a new phone would be ideal but a non-contracted AT&T device has to get loaded at some point and time I guess, right?
Cheers!
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Did you try rebooting the phone before calling? That is what happened with my Moto X Pure and no one knew what to do at the store. The manager came out and rebooted it and it got LTE and worked fine after that.
atistang said:
Did you try rebooting the phone before calling? That is what happened with my Moto X Pure and no one knew what to do at the store. The manager came out and rebooted it and it got LTE and worked fine after that.
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You mean, did I remember to turn it off and back on again? Yes, we tried that. Haha
It wasn't until the AT&T tech adding the profile to the network that it works. It was instant too.
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Feeling about the 6t on Verizon?

Can someone clarify is there is 3G coverage on Verizon? Also, what do people think about the much slower 19Mb vs normal 55Mb speeds the pixel gets? Do you think whatever may be causing the slower speed could also impact coverage area? I went from pretty hyped to pretty skeptical after reading the xda article covering Verizon use. If this worked flawlessy on Verizon it'd be a no brainier purchase but it seems like it won't.
The version Oneplus is offering directly has every band capable of covering each carrier.
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Can someone clarify is there is 3G coverage on Verizon? Also, what do people think about the much slower 19Mb vs normal 55Mb speeds the pixel gets? Do you think whatever may be causing the slower speed could also impact coverage area? I went from pretty hyped to pretty skeptical after reading the xda article covering Verizon use. If this worked flawlessy on Verizon it'd be a no brainier purchase but it seems like it won't.
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The 6T will cover all LTE bands needed to work on Verizon and it has been certified by Verizon to work as a bring your own device.. It does not have the CDMA bands for Verizon 3g service. A few reviews mention no issues with Verizon service.
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The 6T will cover all LTE bands needed to work on Verizon and it has been certified by Verizon to work as a bring your own device.. It does not have the CDMA bands for Verizon 3g service. A few reviews mention no issues with Verizon service.
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According to the Oneplus 6T spec page on the Oneplus website it does indeed have CDMA bands 0 and 1. It should work with legacy 3G Verizon coverage. This doesn't mean it does, but it should be able to...
https://www.oneplus.com/6t/specs
Thanks for all of the replies but nobody has touched on xda's report of it getting 19Mb down on Verizon when the pixel got 55Mb down and the same op6t got 78down on T-Mobile. Is that not a cause for concern? Maybe I should wait for more in depth reviews?
I guess I'll find out next week when mine arrives! Been waiting for these phones to be compatible with Verizon so jumped right on ordering one.
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According to the Oneplus 6T spec page on the Oneplus website it does indeed have CDMA bands 0 and 1. It should work with legacy 3G Verizon coverage. This doesn't mean it does, but it should be able to...
https://www.oneplus.com/6t/specs
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Also from their website.
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Also from their website.
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I believe that list only shows the LTE bands supported. Maybe I'm wrong but wouldn't it also list out the regular GSM bands supported for AT&T/T-Mobile if it included legacy connections (3G, etc)? I guess once more Verizon people have the phone and test we'll find out.
I ordered one this morning at 9 am to try. They have a 15 day return policy so if it only gets one band or signal sucks or something I will just return and call it a wash!
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I ordered one this morning at 9 am to try. They have a 15 day return policy so if it only gets one band or signal sucks or something I will just return and call it a wash!
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I think there is 15% restocking fee on returns...
I am in to see reviews for this phone through Verizon as well.. I am either going to get the OnePlus 6T or the Google Pixel 3. I was really excited that the OnePlus 6T would work on Verizon. But, as the OP mentioned. My excitement got dampened by the confusion if 3G will work on the OnePlus (as also mentioned OnePlus website shows bands 0 and 1 are on the phone but people are mentioning that 3G will not work) and the XDA article about much slower download speeds on Verizon with the OnePlus.
Very interested to hear hand on reviews with this phone through the Verizon network.
Ordered for Verizon so we'll see. No need for CDMA here.
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Same as many others. Currently, waiting to see reviews on how the OP6T works on VZW.
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I am either going to get the OnePlus 6T or the Google Pixel 3. .
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I was extremely excited about the pixel 3 non-xl even though the bezels are larger than almost every $800+ phone released in 2018. I forgave that as stereo speakers can be nice. Then they put the nail in the coffin by only having 4GB of RAM. I have had app refresh issues on every 4GB phone I've owned (every Android phone actually and have been using them since the OG Droid). This year was looking promising with phones having 6 and 8GB. When I heard the pixel was only going to be 4 I seriously considered buying an iPhone. I'm honestly very upset. It should be pixel 3 non-xl: 128GB with 6GB for $800 and 256 with 8GB for $900. They could even have gone $900 & $1000 or $1000 & 1100 and I would've bought one. 4GB is a deal breaker unless it was more like $500 or 600. Then I could justify buying one and just upgrading the second something better comes out.
The size of the 6t is my only downside. Love the small bezels but wish is were a 5.8-6" screen with the same resolution and bezels. Have to shrink the battery a bit too obviously.
The 6T does have CDMA. Wheter or not it works with VZW is another question.
I will know how it works with Verizon on Monday. It Shipped today with delivery of 11/5.
Ordered for Verizon today.
We'll see how it works.
I'm not that worried it should work as good as the Essential that I'm going to replace.
Ordered mine on 11/1. Should be here Tuesday but I’m hoping Monday. I think I’m more concerned about the few things I’ve read about no VoWiFi which I use a good bit during holidays with my wife’s family in the sticks.
Real world users of the 6T on Verizon are getting network speeds in the 30s and 40s, which is fine for me.
I've never done better than that on Samsung nor LG phones.

Does 7T Pro McLaren support standalone 5g mode (no LTE)?

Summary: The SIM card that came in the box for McLaren 5g says TM with 4 numbers. Can I use 5G standalone mode? Read on for why this matters.
I'm using an old SIM, and I recently get a text message from TMO that I should upgrade my sim, pointing to http://t-mo.co/5GSIM
But on that page is says the following:
R15: If you see R15 in pink on the SIM card, you're all set!
TMXXXX: If you see TM followed by 4 numbers, you need to switch to the new SIM that came with your device.
It's fully capable of it with the x55 modem. However, T-Mobile owns the permission for this phone to get on SA 5G. Will need an update.
C-NET Article: "T-mobiles-5g-network-upgrade-means-better-indoor-and-rural-coverage" states:
(sorry no link, jr member)
Regarding SA 5G "T-Mobile will also add support for the new network to the Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G and OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren that were released in 2019 via a software update, however no timeline has yet been given for when that update will arrive. "
That being said, T-Mobile is explicit. You must have the R15 SIM, a capable SA 5G device and be in a SA coverage area.
Get your R15 SIM. Be ready.
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That being said, T-Mobile is explicit. You must have the R15 SIM, a capable SA 5G device and be in a SA coverage area.
Get your R15 SIM. Be ready.
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Fair enough. I stopped by a T-Mobile store and got a new R15 SIM. So now to wait for the upgrade. Or maybe just buy a new device lol.
https://prepaid.t-mobile.com/browse-phones
i ordered and got r15 sim last week. far right on prepaid phones page "2020 sim"
since i didn't order a plan it cost $10 w/ free 2 day shipping. anxiously awaiting update.
The McLaren doesn't have SA yet, but there's some FCC docs showing that it's coming soon. I'll probably have to get one of these R15 sims as well.
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https://prepaid.t-mobile.com/browse-phones
i ordered and got r15 sim last week. far right on prepaid phones page "2020 sim"
since i didn't order a plan it cost $10 w/ free 2 day shipping. anxiously awaiting update.
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Thanks for the info. I know we'll get the update eventually. Hadn't heard of the new SIM card requirements. Just ordered mine for $10. Hope they send the new kind. Ordered the 2020 one.
For what it's worth. I went and got the new sim, for free, after work when that text message was sent by t-mobile. My biggest complaint about this phone is that my texting, whether I use the stock app, or install google messages and try to go RCS, has always had issues, especially over WiFi. But after the sim swap, I have ZERO texting issues, it all works exactly as advertised, RCS through Google messages as well. I believe my previous sim card had been around since I bought my Note 4. So for anyone have texting issues especially, get the new sim card, especially with 5G SA on the horizon for this phone. I just took my wife's S20+ over to get the sim upgrade last night, and now it natively connects to 5G NR. Impressive.
That being said, I'm probably going to jump ship to either the pixel 4a 5G of pixel 5, but purchasing one from google for that precious unlockable bootloader. It's been a year since I upgraded from my 6T, and I really miss having viper4audio in the car for streaming.
mmarcz
I called T-Mobile customer service, requested the R15 SIM.
First call the rep asked..."do you get 5G on your phone right now?" "yeah then you don't need one of these, you got what you needed in an update that was pushed out to your phone"
Second call...took 15 minutes explaining to the rep what I wanted, supervisor involved, had to read them my IMEI, etc. Said they mailed it. Nothing arrived.
Third attempt, walked right into a T-Mobile store. They knew exactly. In and out 10 mins, no charge.
I brought my 8 5G in with me to avoid any guff. Of course that worked.
I popped it into my 7TP McLaren, it hasn't left it since.
It's so clean. No more slow texts, no weird service pauses as it figured out how to get from LTE to 5G to Wi-Fi and back.
Happy, but I want to know WHY on that part there.
""this is an initial update for new 5G stand alone technology" new update today
Upgrading to the new r15 sim also fixed my wifi calling and texting since I switched to the mclaren. Holy crap, I only upgraded for the 5g
The 39 update was released yesterday and enabled SA. I confirmed it works by using the debug menu to force my phone into NR mode, unfortunately the result of a speed test were pretty disappointing.
On a more positive note, the LTE speeds at my house are faster than ever. ?
I've got no sim after this update....guess I'm stopping by the T-Mobile OTW home.
"5G" lol. I had a "Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G Plus" for a few months and more than once I found my phone with no internet. I had perfect 5G signal, and no internet. I rebooted, nothing. I then disabled 5G, forcing it to 4G-LTE, and suddenly I had internet. 5G uses different towers, and apparently they can lose internet and the phone doesn't realize it. The only reason T-Mobile, and every other carrier, is pushing 5G is to get the congestion off their 4G-LTE towers. But I digress. At this point, due to my 5G issues in the area, I don't care for 5G one way or another. I eventually couldn't stand the Galaxy S20 any longer so I sold it and bought this OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G used on ebay. I could care less about its 5G capabilities. Nice to have but not a deal-breaker for me. I was going to hold onto this 7T Pro 5G for a few months and then try and pickup a used 8T Pro, but apparently that's not happening. I don't know if I should get an 8T or not, I may just see if there's a 9 Pro. I don't mind waiting, this 7T Pro 5G smokes the Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G in terms of everyday usability.
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"5G" lol. I had a "Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G Plus" for a few months and more than once I found my phone with no internet. I had perfect 5G signal, and no internet. I rebooted, nothing. I then disabled 5G, forcing it to 4G-LTE, and suddenly I had internet. 5G uses different towers, and apparently they can lose internet and the phone doesn't realize it. The only reason T-Mobile, and every other carrier, is pushing 5G is to get the congestion off their 4G-LTE towers. But I digress. At this point, due to my 5G issues in the area, I don't care for 5G one way or another. I eventually couldn't stand the Galaxy S20 any longer so I sold it and bought this OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G used on ebay. I could care less about its 5G capabilities. Nice to have but not a deal-breaker for me. I was going to hold onto this 7T Pro 5G for a few months and then try and pickup a used 8T Pro, but apparently that's not happening. I don't know if I should get an 8T or not, I may just see if there's a 9 Pro. I don't mind waiting, this 7T Pro 5G smokes the Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G in terms of everyday usability.
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That's the way Verizon's mmWave 5G works (which is insanely fast but also completely useless because it only works outdoors while walking and needs towers every 500 to 1000 feet which will only be installed in the most crowded sections of the most crowded metro areas). T-Mobile uses same towers for 3G/4G LTE/5G NR as they all use the same frequencies (600 to 2500 MHz). Not 60 Ghz garbage that can't travel more than quarter mile or even pass through glass or your hand. That's also why T-Mobile was able to roll out low-band 600MHz 5G to virtually the entire country in such a short time. Because it can travel over 10 miles from tower to indoor phone. Now T-Mobile is working on adding more bandwidth to low-band 5G along with rolling out the mid-band 2500Mhz 5G which will be where the real speed is. It's already out in 300+ cities and will be 1000+ by end of year. That's where the speed will be. 300mbps+ to start. And it'll work indoors and while driving too lol. And my phone is all ready, willing, and able
Anyone know how do you check if you have a newer sim for the 5g SA support?
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Anyone know how do you check if you have a newer sim for the 5g SA support?
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https://www.tmonews.com/2020/09/t-mobile-standalone-5g-r15-sim-card-customers/
What about mvno users on mint or metro?
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What about mvno users on mint or metro?
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No new sim, no SA 5G support. You can test it out yourself by dialing *#*#4636#*#* (has to be from the default OnePlus dialer/phone app while set as default dialer app in settings, apps, default apps -- Won't work with Google Dialer/phone app.), click phone information, and set preferred network type to NR only.
If you get data (with WiFi off), then SA 5G is working. If you get no signal, SA 5G isn't working. However, calls will not work in SA 5G (NR only mode) with WiFi calling off because the X55 modem doesn't support VoNR. So once you test, set it back to how it was so VoLTE calls start working again. To my knowledge, no phones have the X60 modem yet, so no device can access VoNR/make calls when set to NR Only (wifi calling solves this but that requires wifi)
This was a life saver a few days ago in the aftermath of Hurricane Zeta. 95%+ of the entire NOLA metro area and major surrounding suburbs were without power. And the 4G LTE network was so slow it might have been off from hundreds of thousands of people all trying to use it at the same time (and so was NSA 5G because it depends on 4G LTE to set up a connection and also some signalling to make it actually work -- I had full bars on both). I forced it to "NR Only"/SA 5G and my data speeds went from too slow to browse the internet, much less stream video, to well over 110 mbps. Didn't care phone calls weren't working at that point haha.
SA 5G for the win!! :good:

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