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Currently, I have 2 iphones, and the 2 separate data plans that I have to get from AT&T for those. In addition, I also have a Verizon MIFI that I plug into my Cradlepoint router, to use as my home network for internet. Since I am capped at 5gb per month on my mifi, I really have to watch what I do each month on the internet (no streaming, etc).
I am seriously considering getting 2 EVOs instead, and ditching the iphones, and the mifi, but I would only do this, if I could truly use one of the EVOs as the main internet connection for my home. It makes sense to just have one of them with the $30 unlimited data plan, so I would only do the high volume of internet stuff when that phone was physically located in my house.
Is anyone using their EVO as their primary internet for their home?
i don't as i like my 12mpbs + comcast internet connection at home as the best i can get from my evo is 2-3mbps. you would not be in a good position if you have to rely on your evo to have internet connection. mainly, either phone has to be setup the same either either one of you leaves while the other needs internet access (and what would happen when you need leave and the other is using the internet?). secondly, what will you do for internet access while on the phone as sprint does not allow/voice & data at the same time. that is where you would benefit from the mifi as your internet is not dependent on your phone.
you would more than likely be saving money over the longterm by switching to sprint but you would not save money upfront. 2 x evo's @ $200 each = $400 + activation fee $36 = $436, cheapeast data and voice plan = $69 + $10 premium data usage = $79 + insurance/tax = $90 X 2 = $180/m for both phones
or family share plan
cheapest family plan $109 + (2x$10 premium data) = $129/m
you will save money overall in the end, but definately not upfront by switching to sprint. Does the $436 cost of paying for 2 evo's out weigh the cost of mifi for verizon? you could also look into getting a sprint mifi/hotspot instead....
Yes!!! I cancelled my stupid Comcast internet. I was paying $60 / month for a garbage connection that went down all the time. Sprint internet at least doesn't disconnect for periods of days at a time. Maybe it's not 6 mb/s YET but at least it's stable.
Basically it looks like this for me:
Before: Sprint SERO $30 + Comcast $60 = $90
Now: Sprint EPRP Family plan $45 + $30 Hotspot = $75
Cancelling Comcast: PRICELESS I despise this company so badly, that I think I would have paid more than double the price just so that I wouldn't be forced to use them. (My apt is covered by the Comcast monopoly unfortunately)
Seriously, try it out. Worst case you change your mind. I have nothing but good things to say, and I'm running only over 3G. I can't wait til 4G, it will be amazing. The only problem is, as you know, the phone must be there and not on a call. Also streaming netflix you get lower quality (not HD) video so that stinks but I am guessing on 4G it will be better.
This probably doesn't matter to you, but just so you know the pings are very decent for me at least: I range from as low as 70 ms to 150 ms if signal is bad. I've been playing games like Halo 3 and Warcraft 3 with no issues whatsoever ( and winning )
A disclaimer: I am single, living alone, so my flexibility is better. Still, if you are not in the best financial position, you have to ask yourself where the value lies in internet for $60 / month. Obviously a dedicated cable / dsl / T1 line is preferable, but is it really worth it?
Any questions feel free to ask.
After just my first post, i get 2 great contrasting posts, with useful information in both. That's awesome.
The biggest issue I see now, is the fact that you can't hotspot & send/rcv calls at the same time. That almost defeats the purpose, if I have to use my connection to work, and am either on the net, or on the cal
Is that true for tethering and the hotspot? Perhaps that is the same interface on the phone?
The cost savings would be about $50 per month, based on the config. Based on the months left in my contract, that would mean the sooner I want to switch, the better off I would be, from a monthly expense. The costs of early termination for both iphones, and my mifi, are not really that bad, and it actualloy appears that the sooner I do it, the better it gets.
Im surprised no1 has said this yet but are u aware that you can root ur phone and have free unlimited wifi tendering.
I use my evo as my main connection in my dorm. My college uses a wack internet connection in the dorms, that doesnt go above 1mb/s on wifi and 1.5 mb/s when using a landline. N on top of that they moniter ur connection, make sure u dont do illegal stuff.
So for me a evo is a gift from god
If you are not in a 4g area you could pick up an old sero plan for 30/mo and a cheapo winmo phone and tether exclusively from that, and use the evo for your main phone. When/if you get 4g, cancel or sell the sero line and use the 4g off the evo (4g is data and voice at the same time).
Was reading thru the threads and decided to try something out.Am running a rooted Evo with wireless tethering on 3g and just made a call to see if both will work at the same time and they doWe have Road Runner from Time Warner and it doesn't seem to run all that much quicker thru a wirless router than Sprint's 3g,If my wife and I tether both laptops to the Evo at the same time,it slows down a little but not too bad considering its free.
To the people talking about that Sprint does not allow Call and Data at the same time never considered 4G. You CAN do Call and 4G Data at the same time.
I ditched my Road Runner bill of about $40. Almost completed a month as my phone as my sole internet provider. I play on Xbox Live, stream from Netflix, and internet on my desktop and laptop. So far so good.. I live by my self so I don't need the internet at home all day. What I am running below:
Evo 4G (1.47.651.1 and 25% discount/month) + Root + Wireless Tether 2.0.2
I wanted to know if I can hard wire my phone to a router. One because my download speeds when I wire tether to my PC are about 1.5 to 2.0 mbs faster than when I wireless tether. And second I want to amplify my wireless signal.. make sense? lol
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To the people talking about that Sprint does not allow Call and Data at the same time never considered 4G. You CAN do Call and 4G Data at the same time.
I ditched my Road Runner bill of about $40. Almost completed a month as my phone as my sole internet provider. I play on Xbox Live, stream from Netflix, and internet on my desktop and laptop. So far so good.. I live by my self so I don't need the internet at home all day. What I am running below:
Evo 4G (1.47.651.1 and 25% discount/month) + Root + Wireless Tether 2.0.2
I wanted to know if I can hard wire my phone to a router. One because my download speeds when I wire tether to my PC are about 1.5 to 2.0 mbs faster than when I wireless tether. And second I want to amplify my wireless signal.. make sense? lol
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How is netflix over 4G? what quality do you get? HD? On 3g the picture is very standard def.
What if you try a kernel with wireless N? Not sure if it would be reflected in speeds, but in theory it should help.
having wifi N wont make anything faster except inter-network transfer, the bottleneck is the 4g, its slower than N, so anything between the phone and your laptop should be fast, but not to the outside world.
berardi said:
How is netflix over 4G? what quality do you get? HD? On 3g the picture is very standard def.
What if you try a kernel with wireless N? Not sure if it would be reflected in speeds, but in theory it should help.
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Netflix (wire tether) on PC looks the same, HD content does not look that great, maybe a hair better, but not by much. Netflix over Xbox Live is almost the same. HD content doesn't look like HD lol... but it is viewable
On a second note, trying Windows Internet Connect Sharing now. Not no expert in network by all means and first time I tried this..
But this is what I am trying to do. Wire tether to PC, ICS to Xbox 360 via eathernet cable.
Only reason I am looking for a wired solution is because it is faster. Wireless Tether 2.0.5-2 is slower than 2.0.2. On Xbox Live trying to play Modern Warfare 2 with Wireless Tether 2.0.5-2 is sloooooooow. Searching seems to take forever. Went to 2.0.2 and noticed connection speeds a lot faster. Can't play Red Dead Redemption multiplayer with any of the two. Hoping that wire tether + ICS will work.
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To the people talking about that Sprint does not allow Call and Data at the same time never considered 4G. You CAN do Call and 4G Data at the same time.
I ditched my Road Runner bill of about $40. Almost completed a month as my phone as my sole internet provider. I play on Xbox Live, stream from Netflix, and internet on my desktop and laptop. So far so good.. I live by my self so I don't need the internet at home all day. What I am running below:
Evo 4G (1.47.651.1 and 25% discount/month) + Root + Wireless Tether 2.0.2
I wanted to know if I can hard wire my phone to a router. One because my download speeds when I wire tether to my PC are about 1.5 to 2.0 mbs faster than when I wireless tether. And second I want to amplify my wireless signal.. make sense? lol
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You are correct but you need 2 things to make that work. First is 4g in your area and secondly a good/reliable 4g signal. I can't wait until sprint does evora so we dont have to have 4g
Got PdaNet to work fine with a couple rooted Arias on ATT.
Question, does this method work, anyone tried ?
--> http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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since it's fast and easy to 'chew through' 100mb/day by watching videos, what is the consensus on using tethering without a 'tethering plan' from ATT? what is different about it for reading/sending text email vs using phone for youtube?
see this post ... didn't want to end up a 'cheap cigar'
At&t has changed since the days of unlocked ebay specials. They know when you are using more data now. I got the damn email from them saying I went over my limit. I'm on unlimited data!
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my question was not about volume of data, have no worries about going over limit, question was about use of tethering overall, best practise, the google solution vs pdanet (which works fine on a rooted aria)
if the answer is "...don't do it..." would like to hear about it.
if the answer is "...any amount of data transferred via tethering ... triggers cheap cigar treatment..." would like to hear about it.
From what I've heard, as long as you don't go over your data limit you should be fine. They have no way to tell whether you're tethering. The "unlimited" plan is actually limited to 5 GB.
yes, I am aware the unlimited has a limit also, plus it is simple to check on daily status by logging on to my account online and verifying data/minutes/etc or using the automatic sms method
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From what I've heard, as long as you don't go over your data limit you should be fine. They have no way to tell whether you're tethering. The "unlimited" plan is actually limited to 5 GB.
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That is not true
@dsjr2006 are you sure about that? I've been tethering on att for a couple years, first with jailbroken iphones and then a backflip and aria. I'm careful to never go over 5 gb and have never had a problem.
I can't think of anyway att would be able to tell whether you're using data on the phone or through tethering. That said, tethering without a data plan that supports it is a violation of your contract and att would certainly be free to cancel your contract if they found out.
Not sure why this thread died, but I am wondering about this too. I am tethering after rooting my Aria, without a tethering plan. When I do a speed test I get a download speed result of over 3 Mbps, but if I try to actually download anything it starts but the speed decreases to the point of utter uselessness and continues to decrease until I cancel the download. Is this AT&T somehow detecting that I am tethering and throttling my speed?
Last night I picked up a wireless ethernet bridge and hooked it up to my bluray player and xbox. Performance wise I'm actually pretty impressed. On 3g it streamed movies to my bluray flawlessly, and xbox live runs pretty well too. (Other than being disconnected every time I get a text or a phone call). On 4g xbox live runs damn near perfect, constant 3 bars with no lag on COD Black Ops.
Streaming movies to my bluray ate up a LOT of data. I burned through 750 megs in a few short hours. But xbox live barely uses any. A full game of Black Ops used maybe 1.5 megs at most, peaking at like 30-40 kbps.
I wouldn't mind using this fairly consistently, but there are some people out there claiming that Sprint will surely catch you and cancel your plan. Some people even claim that it could end up costing you thousands of dollars! I understand that this is against Sprints contract agreement, but this seems pretty ridiculous to me..
All I've read is speculation, but has anyone actually been caught? If so, what happened? Ive read that they can charge you for all the extra data you use, add the $30 hotspot to your plan without telling you, and even cancel you. I'm also curious about the unlimited data caps. Does Sprint do this? I read in a forum somewhere that some dude uses 30 gb a month playing on xbox live and has never been caught or charged anything extra!
Also, does it make any difference whether I'm on 3g or 4g? I know 4g uses Clear's network. How much control/access does Sprint have over your usage with them? If there is a real risk of getting caught, would it be safer to stick with 4g?
peeps got caught using too much roaming, canceled their acct, no etf. if your on sprint network or 4g your in the clear
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Last night I picked up a wireless ethernet bridge and hooked it up to my bluray player and xbox. Performance wise I'm actually pretty impressed. On 3g it streamed movies to my bluray flawlessly, and xbox live runs pretty well too. (Other than being disconnected every time I get a text or a phone call). On 4g xbox live runs damn near perfect, constant 3 bars with no lag on COD Black Ops.
Streaming movies to my bluray ate up a LOT of data. I burned through 750 megs in a few short hours. But xbox live barely uses any. A full game of Black Ops used maybe 1.5 megs at most, peaking at like 30-40 kbps.
I wouldn't mind using this fairly consistently, but there are some people out there claiming that Sprint will surely catch you and cancel your plan. Some people even claim that it could end up costing you thousands of dollars! I understand that this is against Sprints contract agreement, but this seems pretty ridiculous to me..
All I've read is speculation, but has anyone actually been caught? If so, what happened? Ive read that they can charge you for all the extra data you use, add the $30 hotspot to your plan without telling you, and even cancel you. I'm also curious about the unlimited data caps. Does Sprint do this? I read in a forum somewhere that some dude uses 30 gb a month playing on xbox live and has never been caught or charged anything extra!
Also, does it make any difference whether I'm on 3g or 4g? I know 4g uses Clear's network. How much control/access does Sprint have over your usage with them? If there is a real risk of getting caught, would it be safer to stick with 4g?
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I don't know personally anyone that has gotten caught. I am sure it has happened if you go over the 5gb mark monthly. As for the fellow saying that he does 30gb a month playing xbox I would say he is full of BS. Sprint gets wise once you start blowing through your internet use and if they didn't say you were teathering they would contact you letting you know to either cut down your use or get booted off their network.
5GIG CAP ON 3G
NO CAP ON 4G
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no cap on 3g but thanks for trying
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no cap on 3g but thanks for trying
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Correct, there WAS, but no longer.
novanosis85 said:
5GIG CAP ON 3G
NO CAP ON 4G
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5GIG CAP ON 3G = False
Geeeawwwd I wish I got 4g worth a crap at my house!
I would love to cancel my cable internet and just lash this beast to the 'puter for internet
think it's coincidence that 4g doesn't work well indoors?, sprint knew
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5GIG CAP ON 3G
NO CAP ON 4G
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As others have said it has been removed now. If you listen to the latest commercial it even says, "unlimited is truly unlimited we don't have a cap like other networks"
Yea. Unlimited is unlimited. I stream movies and download ROMs on my phone. I use a ton of data on just my phone. Not tethering. I use well over 5 gigs. And have for 2 years. Sprint won't do anything. Unlimited is unlimited. And we pay 10 bucks more for our already unlimited data. So, yea, I am using what I pay for. Twice.
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I use 30+ GB of 3G a month through tethering to my laptop and watching Netflix on Xbox Live. Haven't heard a peep from Sprint. I'm sure they know I'm tethering, but unlimited means unlimited. If they don't like it, they can terminate my contract.
Quick question... Anyone know the thread that shows us how to force roaming data on our EVOs?
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Quick question... Anyone know the thread that shows us how to force roaming data on our EVOs?
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This one (PRL hack)?
Damn I wish my 3g worked as good as that so I could rock my Xbox and what nots
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mhoffman54 said:
Last night I picked up a wireless ethernet bridge and hooked it up to my bluray player and xbox. Performance wise I'm actually pretty impressed. On 3g it streamed movies to my bluray flawlessly, and xbox live runs pretty well too. (Other than being disconnected every time I get a text or a phone call). On 4g xbox live runs damn near perfect, constant 3 bars with no lag on COD Black Ops.
Streaming movies to my bluray ate up a LOT of data. I burned through 750 megs in a few short hours. But xbox live barely uses any. A full game of Black Ops used maybe 1.5 megs at most, peaking at like 30-40 kbps.
I wouldn't mind using this fairly consistently, but there are some people out there claiming that Sprint will surely catch you and cancel your plan. Some people even claim that it could end up costing you thousands of dollars! I understand that this is against Sprints contract agreement, but this seems pretty ridiculous to me..
All I've read is speculation, but has anyone actually been caught? If so, what happened? Ive read that they can charge you for all the extra data you use, add the $30 hotspot to your plan without telling you, and even cancel you. I'm also curious about the unlimited data caps. Does Sprint do this? I read in a forum somewhere that some dude uses 30 gb a month playing on xbox live and has never been caught or charged anything extra!
Also, does it make any difference whether I'm on 3g or 4g? I know 4g uses Clear's network. How much control/access does Sprint have over your usage with them? If there is a real risk of getting caught, would it be safer to stick with 4g?
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Maybe I'm missing something.... how did you stream blu ray movies from your Evo to your blu ray player?
matt2053 said:
Maybe I'm missing something.... how did you stream blu ray movies from your Evo to your blu ray player?
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At the beginning of the post, he said he picked up an Ethernet bridge. This basically is a device that you attach Ethernet devices to and it then connects those devices to a wireless signal (i.e. from a wireless access point or router, or in this case the EVO in HotSpot mode). There are also some Blu-ray players that have wireless built in and there are, of course, wifi adapters for XBox as well.
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Maybe I'm missing something.... how did you stream blu ray movies from your Evo to your blu ray player?
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To be specific, I bought a Tenda W150M Portable Wireless AP/Router.
$30 at MicroCenter. I didn't mind buying it because its a 5-in-1 device (AP, Client/AP, Wireless Router, WDS+AP, WISP), so when and if I decide to reactivate my Qwest DSL, I can use it as a range extender so I can pick up my WiFi out in the garage. It's usb powered and even has a mode button on the side so I can quickly switch between modes without having to adjust it via ethernet. $30 investment that does the job of both the $80 Sony BluRay wireless adapter and $100 xbox wireless adapter.
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To be specific, I bought a Tenda W150M Portable Wireless AP/Router.
$30 at MicroCenter. I didn't mind buying it because its a 5-in-1 device (AP, Client/AP, Wireless Router, WDS+AP, WISP), so when and if I decide to reactivate my Qwest DSL, I can use it as a range extender so I can pick up my WiFi out in the garage. It's usb powered and even has a mode button on the side so I can quickly switch between modes without having to adjust it via ethernet. $30 investment that does the job of both the $80 Sony BluRay wireless adapter and $100 xbox wireless adapter.
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Awesome! I'm going to microcenter tomorrow.
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My friend uses his 3G as his primary source of internet and has been for about 8-9 months now, as posted earlier, unlimited is unlimited. You get what you pay for. Although roaming will surely get you kicked off if not worse.
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Has anyone figured out the best way to enable the wifi tethering capability?
I know on the s4, all the roms came out with this feature, it seems the s5 is still not rooted yet, what is everyone using, exploit or app?
this has been posted, but the best way to accomplish this right now without root is with FoxFi ( paid as far as i know and use now ) .. then USB or Bluetooth tether. you can then while tethered activate "wifi share" for your wifi devices. ..... if there is another method please someone post it!
verizon s5 are not allowed to do it..
Wow, what in the world is going on here...
Verizon may have made their last move. I just bought my phone with new 2 year contract, can i return and cancel my contract within a certain time period or am I inevitably effed?
I can not and will not put up with anymore of big Red's nazi ways, I am paying for a service and at the price im paying more than justifies my using of said service in any and every way that i want. If this does not get resolved soon, its a deal breaker for me and verizon. Not that it will make any difference...
and I hate that it would essentially make me move to a lesser carrier with less coverage and internet speed, but big red is starting to do that guv'mint thinking and i dont like where this is headed.
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this has been posted, but the best way to accomplish this right now without root is with FoxFi ( paid as far as i know and use now ) .. then USB or Bluetooth tether. you can then while tethered activate "wifi share" for your wifi devices. ..... if there is another method please someone post it!
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donkey poo!!!
I require a real wifi tether, usb and bluetooth are too restrictive and time consuming.
I hope a few of the more experienced devs can chime in on whether this is something to wait for or just return/sell the device immediately?
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Wow, what in the world is going on here...
Verizon may have made their last move. I just bought my phone with new 2 year contract, can i return and cancel my contract within a certain time period or am I inevitably effed?
I can not and will not put up with anymore of big Red's nazi ways, I am paying for a service and at the price im paying more than justifies my using of said service in any and every way that i want. If this does not get resolved soon, its a deal breaker for me and verizon. Not that it will make any difference...
and I hate that it would essentially make me move to a lesser carrier with less coverage and internet speed, but big red is starting to do that guv'mint thinking and i dont like where this is headed.
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If you have one of their new plans which I'm assuming you do since you upgraded, you absolutely can use native hotspot. I ran it yesterday. You have to turn it on via settings instead of the traditional way of tapping the Wi-Fi app.
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tpike said:
If you have one of their new plans which I'm assuming you do since you upgraded, you absolutely can use native hotspot. I ran it yesterday. You have to turn it on via settings instead of the traditional way of tapping the Wi-Fi app.
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I upgraded, and paid full price for it....
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I upgraded, and paid full price for it....
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Did you try the method 2 posts up?
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No. For the reason of having unlimited data.
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I gave up the unlimited data plan and went with the Share Everything with 6gb of data. I did an analysis of my data usage for the past year and found that I never used more than 2gb a month. The unlimited talk and text is more important to me than unlimited data. Although I use the web quite a bit on the phone, I use wifi at home and at work, so it limits my 4G data usage substantially.
Verizon will eventually find a way to eliminate unlimited data altogether, or with some of the new Internet legislation being pushed throttle the bandwidth to the point that it's useless.
I don't understand what people are doing to use 30gb a month or higher unless you are using the plan as your home ISP service connecting multiple devices, or streaming movies all day long.
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I gave up the unlimited data plan and went with the Share Everything with 6gb of data. I did an analysis of my data usage for the past year and found that I never used more than 2gb a month. The unlimited talk and text is more important to me than unlimited data. Although I use the web quite a bit on the phone, I use wifi at home and at work, so it limits my 4G data usage substantially.
Verizon will eventually find a way to eliminate unlimited data altogether, or with some of the new Internet legislation being pushed throttle the bandwidth to the point that it's useless.
I don't understand what people are doing to use 30gb a month or higher unless you are using the plan as your home ISP service connecting multiple devices, or streaming movies all day long.
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I have Verizon Home Fusion for home internet and I do not have wifi at work. Largest amount of data I can subscribe to per month is 30GB/month, for my home. I'm too far off the road for cable, DSL, and I didn't want Satellite (which still has limits).
I'm grandfathered into unlimited. I use about 30 GB a month tethering, mostly updates for the XBOX One, downloading stuff from the usenet, streaming Netflix or HBO Go to my iPad when I'm at my camper, which is in the woods.
I hope you have an understanding now of how someone can use 30 GB per month.
On an average month, prior to acquiring my GS5, I was using about 45gb of data. That's web surfing, PC and Xbox 360 gaming, and streaming videos. On HEAVY months, I was up around 75gb of data used. My lightest month to date of data usage was 29gb of data. No way in heck I am giving up my unlimited when I have no home landline internet.. This IS my salvation.
Well in response to the OP and to others who may be confused, WIFI tether (as well as bluetooth and usb) is built in and available as long as you have the share everything plan. Until we get root there will be no native wifi hack. I've been told a talented dev has an s5 in hand, i bet it wont be too long until root is achieved, after which native hacks will be forthcoming
It takes time, has anyone here had the s4 before the s5? Do you recommend me to get the s4 or s5? I'm looking to upgrade but I have to pay full price for the phone because I use about 100 gb every month, the only two things that make me doubt is that wifi tether is not posible yet and since I eat my fingernails I can't open the usb with my fingers on the S5 lmao
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It takes time, has anyone here had the s4 before the s5? Do you recommend me to get the s4 or s5? I'm looking to upgrade but I have to pay full price for the phone because I use about 100 gb every month, the only two things that make me doubt is that wifi tether is not posible yet and since I eat my fingernails I can't open the usb with my fingers on the S5 lmao
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On that note, (heh) if you wanted to, and I wanted to, but was talked out of by a dumb BBY mobile rep, was getting the Note 3 which is rootable.
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Well in response to the OP and to others who may be confused, WIFI tether (as well as bluetooth and usb) is built in and available as long as you have the share everything plan. Until we get root there will be no native wifi hack. I've been told a talented dev has an s5 in hand, i bet it wont be too long until root is achieved, after which native hacks will be forthcoming
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Thanks for your reply but I need to activate on the unlimited plan and although when I'm home I don't use that much but when traveling it sure is much cheaper than paying 7-20 bucks a day for WiFi access in some places.... not having root is no good in this particular case especially because I rely on it for work and has never been an issue until now. And giving more money to Verizon is not an options unlimited is already 125 per month
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On that note, (heh) if you wanted to, and I wanted to, but was talked out of by a dumb BBY mobile rep, was getting the Note 3 which is rootable.
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I'm currently still using my n3 cause it's rooted and running my rom. It's got Wi-Fi tether hacked as do most roms.
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What I would do if I were you. Put your 4G SIM card back in your old device until root becomes available. That way you have the Wifi Tether and can use your Unlimited data. And at the same time you can use your S5 for all your apps and such. But use the old device for calling and texting. Just my suggestion. You are lucky, I would never give up that unlimited plan. And these devs are extremely clever you'll have Wifi Tethering on your S5 in no time.
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What I would do if I were you. Put your 4G SIM card back in your old device until root becomes available. That way you have the Wifi Tether and can use your Unlimited data. And at the same time you can use your S5 for all your apps and such. But use the old device for calling and texting. Just my suggestion. You are lucky, I would never give up that unlimited plan. And these devs are extremely clever you'll have Wifi Tethering on your S5 in no time.
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Not an option. Took BestBuy up on their trade in offer. Didn't consider this at the time. But for the future, now I will know better...
People who have the grandfathered unlimited data plan and have an unlocked Nexus 6p can bypass Verizon's tethering restriction (ie tether without paying extra).
My question is for anyone who has an unlocked phone like the 6p and has the new Verizon Unlimited plan: can Verizon detect the 10GB of tethering then throw you to 3G? Or is it not detectable because there's no Verizon software on your phone?
In other words: is the 10GB tether limit detected locally on your phone or on Verizon's end?
I was actually wondering this exact same thing, if anyone happens to know.
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I just switched from grandfathered to the new unlimited. They cannot detect tethering at all as they do not have their software on the phone.
Enjoy
How are you bypassing the hotspot detection? Are you using a simple Entitlement bypass the using the standard hotspot that is part of Android, or something different?
Are you sure Verizon is not detecting it? Because there are ways--other than using Verizon apps for the hotspot--for Verizon to detect that your phone is being used as a hotspot.
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How are you bypassing the hotspot detection? Are you using a simple Entitlement bypass the using the standard hotspot that is part of Android, or something different?
Are you sure Verizon is not detecting it? Because there are ways--other than using Verizon apps for the hotspot--for Verizon to detect that your phone is being used as a hotspot.
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By simply turning on the tethering option in settings.
And you're sure this prevents Verizon from seeing it?
I almost created a new thread asking this question, but then I saw my questions was already asked.
Can we confirm that the new 10gb tethering cap is undetectable on VZW Unlimited plan?
wow i was thinking about switching from tmobile unlimited cuz they be detecting me to bypass i use pdanet with cable to hide tether and it works 100%. But I wanted to make the switch to verizon unlimited it's just that I'm paying 50$ a month for unlimited tmobile
I was also just browsing the Pixel Q&A and it seems some of them are having trouble getting tethering on VZW with the Pixel. I'm on a "grandfathered" unlimited VZW plan and tethering works no problem for me, no hack or tricks need, just use the built in hotspot.
I wonder if some of the Pixel users having problems got their phones from Verizon, thinking maybe the phones that came direct from Google don't have the VZW software that tracks tethering.
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I was also just browsing the Pixel Q&A and it seems some of them are having trouble getting tethering on VZW with the Pixel. I'm on a "grandfathered" unlimited VZW plan and tethering works no problem for me, no hack or tricks need, just use the built in hotspot.
I wonder if some of the Pixel users having problems got their phones from Verizon, thinking maybe the phones that came direct from Google don't have the VZW software that tracks tethering.
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It's probably phones from Verizon.
I tether with my 6P on 7.1.2 and have since I got it new with 6.x.
Verizon doesn't do what AT&T and other to do to detect tethering.
I have tethered all my phones for years without Verizon noticing..
Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
I can tell you Verizon can and does detect tethering no matter the phone or plan.... But can't really stop it on the grandfathered unlimited plans. It's usually small fish to fry for them at this point. With their stance on 100gb a month or they cancel you has pretty much eliminated the big abusers (I pass No judgment as I just last week finally ditched my grandfathered udp). In the pixel they provided block after block if you were not an early purchaser and used depixel8 to unlock the bootloader from firewaterdevs. @ Jan 17 a Google update finally put a stop to depixel8 (it was after all a bootloader security flaw) and if you purchased a pixel from VZW that had been updated to 7.1.1 you were SOL. There have been some tricks to pop the sim card in and out to enable tethering but many were difficult and the timing had to be precise. I am/was a pixel owner..... Back to my N6p. Daughter got my wife's S7, she took my pixel since the 6p is too big for her liking.
While the pixel requires a bootloader unlock to root and enable tethering or install a custom ROM done for you already.... The 6p is VERY different from the pixel as far as it never being a Verizon issued phone as well as not having the split A/B partition (you'll all find out about that on your next upgrade) VZW is well aware of your tethering usage. Just a matter of making an issue out of it....which unless you are using it as your home wifi.......there are fewer and fewer grandfathered plans left to bother with.
I tethered while traveling with the kids and the largest data amount I ever tethered was 25gb. Usually more in the 10-12 range. I finally gave up the UDP because to add a phone for my kid (middle school now) it would have cost 30 more for data and I would have only gotten 2gb for her. With 3 lines on new "unlimited" I pay $15 less than I was paying. I'm not upgrading to the higher unlimited plan until I need to travel again. Right now I've seen zero difference in my service but I'm definitely keeping an eye on it. Honestly on a 5inch screen it's not a big deal to have dvd quality vs HD. Once my wife's contract ends in March from the S7 subsidized purchase 18 months ago we'll upgrade to the higher UDP with the 15gb tethering cap.
My only question is that 15gb per line tethering or per plan?
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Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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I also received the text alert and email. throttling appears to be set at 600kbs as per the email. using pdanet to limp along till theres a better solution.
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I also received the text alert and email. throttling appears to be set at 600kbs as per the email. using pdanet to limp along till theres a better solution.
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Me as well (using pdanet), I have satellite internet as I am outside of City limits. Frustrating Verizon is regressing rather than progressing. Mainly due to greed.
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Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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I ditched my GUDP last month based on the info from this thread. I used over 30GB of tethering last month, and Verizon shows I used 0GB for tethering. I was excited until this month, as I just got a text that I hit 15GB of tethering and I'm throttled at 600kbs now. Something else I noticed is that when I log into my Verizon account, it shows I'm currently using a Huawei - H1511. If I remember correctly, Verizon couldn't recognize it was a Huawei phone on my account up until now.
Can anyone confirm if using PDA Net or ClockworkMod Tether works around this limitation? The free trials are too limited to fully test them out, and I don't want to purchase the paid version of the apps if I'll be stuck with the same tethering limitations of the stock hotspot.
Thanks!
Pda-Net works Via USB to PC, as for CWM I don't know.
imitebewrong said:
Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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Ditto on this. I'm now really regretting having moved away from the grandfather plan.
Thank you all for posting, you’ve convinced me to keep gUDP. I am tethering in excess of 1TB per billing cycle. On contract of course. Now to extend the contract...
Found a fix!
I feel silly for not having found this sooner.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/enable-free-wifi-tethering-android-marshmallow-0167832/
tldr;
add
Code:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
to your /system/build.prop file and reboot
Just tested with my new unlimited plan and can confirm I'm now back above the 600kbps mark!!
Lineage OS 14.1 on Axon 7
Edit: Nevermind. I'm not sure what I did the other day but I can't recreate this.
So I hit my 15gb hotspot tether limit on the new verizon " unlimited" plan , I then was limited to ~600kbps as described in the fine print , I however can confirm that if I connect pc via usb or wifi hotspot and place pc or other tethered device on a vpn such as Private internet access I am able to then able to get normal speed ~15mbs I also streamed youtube in 1440p for testing for ~10mins . I will test tonight with my 4k tv watching netflix and see if I can continue past the 22gb limit and still get UHD streaming . FYI im on ipad and iphone , host device does not seem to matter the trick is the device connected to the hotspot must be on a vpn that does not use split tunneling .