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Tmobile to charge for Tethering?

Over at AndroidCentral they said you can no longer tether for free if u do it will cause u 14.99 a month? Is this legit? PDA Net is now rendered useless? Anyone shed some light on this?
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Although we already knew that a new plan for customers that want to Tether was coming soon and then yesteday, confirmed for November 3rd, the folks over at BGR have recieved details on the new tethering plan. T-Mobile will officially offer the $14.99 /MonthTethering and WiFi-Sharing Add-On beginning November 3rd. The plan will allow subscribers to use their smartphones as a tethered modem or Wi-Fi hotspot. To qualify for the $14.99 Tethering add-on, you will need to have a 3G/HSPA+ capable handset in addition to an unlimited web plan of $19.95 or higher. The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled. The plan will be available for Postpaid and Flex Pay Customers.
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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
What I'm wondering is what's going to happen to everyone that was grandfathered in with the 10gig data softcap. Do they stay with 10gig data plans or are they knocked down to 5gig softcaps. Yes, I understand it still unlimited but I'm not interested on tethering with an Edge connection.

Excuse my language but Wtf type of sh*t is that? First they don't want you to tether, then they are gonna let u tether for another 5gb and that's it???? They can suck a fat one. Btw I've already been throttled and it aint that bad so I'm pretty sure this new idea of theirs is gonna blow back in their face. If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Does this mean we will be getting some kind of OTA to enable tethering?
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bigstunta101 said:
If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Well, they will have their version of the G2, but then what? You'll leave T-Mobile for the Red Devil? They charge for tethering too you know?
Geez, what's the big fuss about them charging for tethering. You'll still be able to tether your connection without paying for the plan, granted it will STILL be against the terms and conditions but there's nothing stopping you from doing so.
My brother tethers his Verizon BlackBerry and he doesn't have any sort of tethering plan. I'm on T-Mobile and I tethered my BBs (when I had them) and my G1 without any issues, now I didn't go out there and stream and download this and that and make it obvious that I was using a lot of data.
If you recall T-Mobile did say that CURRENTLY tethering was not available but they were LOOKING into it because customers are interested. "Looking into it" is just their way of saying "Yeah, we're gonna support tethering but we're figuring out what to charge for it".
Bottom line, you don't like it, leave T-Mobile if you think they're screwing you. Why stress yourself out by *****ing about it?

I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.

ddgarcia05 said:
Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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That may be how it operates (I do not know) but that is not what the quoted article says. It says that tethering counts towards your 5GB cap.
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The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled.
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i.e. if you have a 5GB cap now, you will have a 5GB cap when you add tethering. I assume if you have a 10GB cap now you would have a 10GB cap when tethering.

Chuckmoney said:
I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.
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I don't think they care if you use tether or not. They probably hope you do. It's people who already tether that are mostly likely going to feel the hit. Every smartphone user pays for a data plan which is for 5gigs. What you do with those 5gigs is up to you ex. tether, torrents, xbox live, mp3 downloads, stream porn, its doesn't mater. After your 5gigs are up. Then what? Can hardcore tether users live off an Edge connection? No. Now people who have never tethered before and know nothing about root will think it's awesome. When in fact they could have been tethering long before. When you stop and see it from that angle, how many of these tmo customers who are going to get the tether package will ever hit the 5gig limit? I doubt may of them will. They probably wont even tap into their tethering plan and fall below the 5gig data plan softcap. Which means they've paid $14.99, for data they never even used.
This is assuming that tmo will see any form of data movement weather it be through tethering or receiving a MMS as data. This would tie into the whole tmo can suspect you of tethering because of a 6/8/20/100mb usage her and there. When normally I've never gone pass 500mb a month even with very lite tethering.
Or I could just be flat out wrong.

This is complete bs. Does this apply to older phones too? I'm a hardcore USB tether user on my G1. How will they even be able to tell if I'm tethering or not?

ddgarcia05 said:
Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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Many other sources are reporting that there's no increase in your limit. So 5gb may still apply.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/
via... http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/10/26/t-mobile-to-debut-tethering-plan-on-november-3rd-14-99/
Either way, screw that - I'll never pay for tethering.

I think this was their plan the whole time? Which is most likely why the G2 is locked down the the it is. They want to charge for something that can be done for free if the phone was rooted. I wouldn't be shocked if all phones from this point on is locked up as well.

So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.

Good god, why are you people so upset? Tethering isn't technically allowed right now, although tons of people do it. What, are you guys going to stop tethering because T-Mobile is going to charge for an official service? Of course not. You'll use PdaNet or mobile AP and T-Mobile won't give a crap, just like always.

xKERNALx said:
So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.
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No, it's still unlimited data, it's just that there's a soft cap where they'll throttle you down to Edge if you go over 5GB. But the soft cap applies to all data, whether tethered or not, and always has (it used to be 10GB).

Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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hawaiian.monzta said:
Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds

Well since there is no 3G service where I live being bumped down to edge speeds is kind of an idle threat for me lol.
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In my own situations, whenever I want to stream or do anything data intensive, I always have wifi around anyways ie. work, school, home etc

Shambala001 said:
No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds
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But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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hawaiian.monzta said:
But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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Damn. Have you read past the 2 first post? I answered both these questions on the first page. I'm not pissed I'm just wondering my post made sense.

GingerBlur hotspot

Any way to create hotspot in Gignerblur (without paying extra to ATT) ?

Wow, this is exactly what people were talking about in that long thread about how most people dont steal tethering, lol. Way more of the casual users do than you think and thus its justified for At&T to lock down any device they feel they need to.
Force

Data plans are already limited. Screw them.
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forcelite said:
Wow, this is exactly what people were talking about in that long thread about how most people dont steal tethering, lol. Way more of the casual users do than you think and thus its justified for At&T to lock down any device they feel they need to.
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F that -- I pay for unlimited internet access from them AND for unlimited text (even though texting is JUST data). I should be able to use my unlimited internet the way I want to use it without having to incur more charges.

1) texting is NOT DATA, it uses un-use protions of the VOICE network.
2) you pay for unlimited data on YOUR DEVICE not on every wi-fi enabled device you own.

Did you enable tether+sideload when you rooted? If so, just choose the custom tether APN and then enable hotspot. Tether+sideload is something separate from Gingerblur.

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1) texting is NOT DATA, it uses un-use protions of the VOICE network.
2) you pay for unlimited data on YOUR DEVICE not on every wi-fi enabled device you own.
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ATT gives us 2gb of data for 25 dollars a month, why do they get to control the way that we use those 2gb? If you were on an unlimited plan and used tens of gigs per month then I would understand how that would be abusing the system but if you are on a data capped plan then tether away in my opinion.

I would agree except you signed a contract.

Yes. , we all signed contracts. It's not like we were given much choice. In the usa all cell carriers practice the same policy. They all make money from costumers that need their services. But they force our hand into paying for services that are overpriced and convenientley designed to bring them even more profit to our losses. I would love to be able to buy a smartphone and use the limited data plan it comes with any way I want to. If I get 2 gigs and want to use them through my pc, well, than I should've allowed to do so. Data is data and is sold to us in a certain quantity, at not allways good quality, because or speed limitations and reception. We pay for it anyway, but why should we settle for tethering charges? Well because we have no choice. All carriers do the same so there are no options. They do it because they want more monkey and apparently nobody can stop them. Its like gas prices. They find the lamest reasons to increase prices and they get away with it because we need gas and are so damn dependent on it. We now need data and we will pay for it no matter the unfairness of the conditions. Maybe they should start charging extra if we buy gas for anything else other than our personal cars. Like if u want to use your boat, well, than u have to have a different price for that. Im tyerd and rambling but its not right.
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dcarpenter85 said:
Did you enable tether+sideload when you rooted? If so, just choose the custom tether APN and then enable hotspot. Tether+sideload is something separate from Gingerblur.
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How do I do that? I did exactly this directions ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12631216&postcount=2911
Thanks a lot
To Forcelite. I pay for 2GB data, I would like to use it whatever way I'd like.

It should have asked you if you wanted to enable sideloading and/or tethering at somepoint after you ran beforeupdate.bat

Got it, thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZi-5MOs7pc

this reminds me of back in the day when isp tried to charge extra for people with more than one computer in the house, then wifi routers came along... kinda ridiculous that people pay for their data and cant use it how they want, what difference does it make as long as users dont go over their data plan. this just seems like a method for att to get people to sign up for more data that they can use by restricting tether.

[Q] Wifi tether uses what kind of sprint data?

I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.

ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,

sapperpipo said:
your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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Okay good, that is my setup.
Short of torrenting pirated movies or other bandwidth-heavy activities, I don't have to worry about getting a nasty letter from them about using too much traffic then?
I normally just stream Netflix all day, check for updates on SRF1.3, and check G+ 3 or 4 times daily.

They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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styles420 said:
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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But I thought Sprint was the only provider that doesn't have a fair-usage policy limiting users to 5GB a month. They are truly unlimited... (insert question mark here?)

styles420 said:
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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hmmm interesting,,
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sapperpipo said:
I use on average of 11 million Kbs of service each month for the past almost 2 years and I have yet to recieve any such letter,,,
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...that f**king shut me up...

As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over

davidrules7778 said:
As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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Hopefully it stays that way - they *just* changed the terms of service within the past month, so only time will tell.
If you pay for their tethering package, then the app checks in with their network when you start it (this was the part that needed to be hacked to get the native hotspot working for free, essentially) - that would be the only way Sprint would know which data is used for tethering, and it could end up being inflated by any data use on your phone while the tether app is running (unless the app actually reports when data is being pulled for a connected device instead of the phone - but that's more bandwidth wasted...)
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I really don't think Sprint cares. I had no home internet for about 2 weeks recently, so I used the tethering hack. During tha time I torrented over 30 GB of tv over 4g and never got a warning or throttling.
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I had been reading from the sprint website about their unlimited plans and sprint's customer support responses to people. The results are promising, for now.
They basically said as long as network usage remains balanced between light and heavy users, everything will remain unlimited forever. (We obviously know forever means 1 or 2 years at the rate people are jumping over to the unlimited bandwagon).
Even with the iPhone users coming over, they say it's going to remain unlimited as long as not EVERYONE is being a heavy user. If everyone becomes heavy, the CEO said they will think about tackling a different approach to tiered-usage once that boat comes along, but I guess we're all okay for now.

ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/

jemajun000 said:
I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
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False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.

dtugg said:
False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
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Seriously, thanks for being the voice of reason here - that guy must have forgotten to toggle basic logic back on before engaging the typing mechanism
"We hacked the native hotspot app - now, it functions EXACTLY the same way as it did before we hacked it... don't forget to hit that THANKS button!"
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I'm glad you guys answered before I did. My answer would have been petty hurtful because that reply was not helpful whatsoever.
If you don't know, guessing doesn't contribute unless the post has to do with theory!
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didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?

murso74 said:
didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
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In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.

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In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
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unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack

murso74 said:
unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
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Hmmm, sorry that didn't work. Please let me know your findings then so I have another solution to add for future peeps with such an issue.

Anyone tethering with Note on ATT? Are they detecting it?

As many of you know att was busting users tethering. I dont really use it all that often and since all the talk about att catching people tethering, i thought i would never be able to use it ever again, IF i needed too. Some times share with the klids phones if we are mobile. They dont have data.
Ive turned it on a couple times testing. I connected the laptop to it and loaded "a" page. I havent gotton any emails yet, or ever.
I was just wondering, since this is not an att phone, and there is no tether manager, should we be able to tether without getting detected?
I thought for sure there was going to be a topic already here, but theres not???? my search didnt turn up andything!!

carhigh said:
As many of you know att was busting users tethering. I dont really use it all that often and since all the talk about att catching people tethering, i thought i would never be able to use it ever again, IF i needed too. Some times share with the klids phones if we are mobile. They dont have data.
Ive turned it on a couple times testing. I connected the laptop to it and loaded "a" page. I havent gotton any emails yet, or ever.
I was just wondering, since this is not an att phone, and there is no tether manager, should we be able to tether without getting detected?
I thought for sure there was going to be a topic already here, but theres not???? my search didnt turn up andything!!
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I made mine a wireless hotspot for my friends for about an hour and a half like two weeks ago and they didn't say anything to me or kick me off my data plan.

Thank for posting this! I was wondering as well!

They probably won't say anything so long as you keep within your data cap. Going over it and they will likely scold you...
Brian

No issues here...tethering away and remembering not to be a hog. Don't abuse it.

inurb said:
No issues here...tethering away and remembering not to be a hog. Don't abuse it.
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Thank you!
When I had the HTC Evo I also had the tethering option ($30/month) but, fortunately, my company was picking up 90% of the tab. Now that my Evo is gone and I have a company provided iP4 I can't tether.
I have mixed feeling about tethering as it is a useful tool to have but also very easy to abuse. The problem with the abuse is that it eats into the bandwidth that I need for more casual usage and therefore negatively impacts my usage. I have heard of folks using of 50GB/month and if even a very small fraction of people did that there would be no cellular network that would survive.
When I get the Note I will probably go with the 4GB plan and have tethering. During my time with the Evo I averaged about 600MB/month including tethering, but with the Note I think the data use will go up because it will be far more useful and practical to surf the net and I think I'll probably go over 2GB/month. I will have to see what my data use actually is and if 2GB/month is enough and I can still tether than maybe that will be the way to go.
I don't see the need to try to game the system all that much and am willing to pay for what I use...
Brian

I've tethered with my Dell streak for over a year, never had an issue.
You just have to stay under the radar. Start downloading ISO size files, and you can bet you will get dinged.

I have been tethering illicitly for almost a year, first on my rooted SGS and now my Note, because that's been my only available "broadband" connection where I live (and I only get about 300kbps down even on HSPA 3g... very oversubscribed towers around here).
I got the dreaded warning letter from AT&T a couple months ago, where they politely suggested that I need to upgrade my plan to include tethering...and if I continue tethering, they will eventually do it for me.
That was a few months ago and they haven't done it yet, though I did back off on my data consumption after I got that letter (I stand to lose my unlimited data plan as well as seeing my monthly bill go up by $30).
I suspect that they infer that you're tethering based on your traffic, and that they can't actually tell whether you have tethering enabled on your rooted phone. E.g. if you're doing a lot of bittorrenting and connecting to sites like Windowsupdate.com, those would be pretty big clue that you're running a PC over your connection.
I rarely use my PC any more, and no more bt :-( so I am hoping they will continue to let my occasional small amount of tethering slide. And if they don't, I may just upgrade to a Verizon 4g LTE mifi instead, since that is now available in my area
HTH

I'm on att and with android phones I've been tethering for almost two years with no problem. It included the Nexus one, the galaxy tab, the inspire 4g, the unlocked sgs2 and now the Note. I frequently used the tethering option to connect my galaxy tab 10.1. I average 5GB a month and have never gotten any warning.
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I'm based in the UK so i don't have any useful input, I just find this article interesting. Your guys network operators over in the US sound like nazis. and I thought ours were bad?
I've seen a few networks over here include tethering as a "bolt-on" style upgrade to a price plan, but my question is, how the hell do they know? like with my SGS, tethering is part of the phone, so it was my understanding that they couldn't tell (unless you had anormal traffic - but with phones getting better processors surely that kind of traffic will very soon, if not already, be possible without tethering?)

calin75 said:
I'm on att and with android phones I've been tethering for almost two years with no problem. It included the Nexus one, the galaxy tab, the inspire 4g, the unlocked sgs2 and now the Note. I frequently used the tethering option to connect my galaxy tab 10.1. I average 5GB a month and have never gotten any warning.
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yeah, like I said: I don't think they can actually tell you have tethering enabled, so if the only devices you're connecting to your AP are other phones, they likely will never figure it out. But if you connect a Mac or PC much, watch out.
UPDATE: AT&T finally forced me into their tethering plan. I put my SIM into an old dumb phone, went online and changed the phone model on my acct, and they automatically dropped me back into my old unlimited data plan. Swapped the SIM back into the Note, all better again
We'll see how long it lasts, but since I'm not tethering anymore (just got a Verizon LTE Mifi) I will probably drop my data pan down to the minimum 200mb and save another $15/mo.
I'm seriously looking into switching all four of my lines over to Verizon now!

Pissed new Sprint costumer. Now I'm looking for help with tethering and roaming

I'm reading as much as I can, but I'm pretty much green! I have never owned an unlocked phone, rooted anything, or know where to start or if that's even what I need to do.
Here is my situation. My wife and I started a small business and talked with sprint. I was told unlimited data. I asked specifically if that was including hotspot. The answer was yes. I also gave to 2 locations that we worked in and wanted to know about coverage. I was told coverage in both. NOT! I'm Roaming at one location. I have not roamed in years!! Seriously??? WOW!
My questions:
1- After talking to them, I indeed have unlimited data... but only 5 gigs is included in my hotspot mode. I called because I got the notification today that I was capped until the 29th of FEB. My phone runs fine. Youtube.. surf.. perfect. Hotspot.. nope.
What can I do to use the unlimited data I was assured I would get? What's an easy work around?
2- I'm roaming.... seriously.... What the frick? Is there a solution for that?
Thanks for your help in advance.

Astro2012 said:
I'm reading as much as I can, but I'm pretty much green! I have never owned an unlocked phone, rooted anything, or know where to start or if that's even what I need to do.
Here is my situation. My wife and I started a small business and talked with sprint. I was told unlimited data. I asked specifically if that was including hotspot. The answer was yes. I also gave to 2 locations that we worked in and wanted to know about coverage. I was told coverage in both. NOT! I'm Roaming at one location. I have not roamed in years!! Seriously??? WOW!
My questions:
1- After talking to them, I indeed have unlimited data... but only 5 gigs is included in my hotspot mode. I called because I got the notification today that I was capped until the 29th of FEB. My phone runs fine. Youtube.. surf.. perfect. Hotspot.. nope.
What can I do to use the unlimited data I was assured I would get? What's an easy work around?
2- I'm roaming.... seriously.... What the frick? Is there a solution for that?
Thanks for your help in advance.
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Yeah, they cap hotspot at 5GB. I was told this when they tried to upsell me a tablet. Try FoxFi with PDANet+, or root the device.

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Yeah, they cap hotspot at 5GB. I was told this when they tried to upsell me a tablet. Try FoxFi with PDANet+, or root the device.
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I installed PDANet+ and purchased foxfi. No luck so far. It never asked about vpn etc.. Is there a guide on that? maybe the one I followed was wrong

If you are new, they have a return window. Take it back and switch carriers.
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I'm so sorry, bro. So, so, sorry. I currently am using this phone under an unlimited data plan. For the phone, the lte is in fact unlimited, and sufficient, for all 8-10 phones on the account.
Hotspot.... Well, everything about sprints Hotspot "plan" is an absolute ****ing joke. Want 5 gb Hotspot data per device per month? 60 bucks. Run out and want to extend it?
1GB ADDED AT A TIME, FOR FIFTEEN (15$) DOLLARS PER 1 GB.
WANT TO ADD MORE? **** YOU. COME BACK AND ADD ANOTHER 1GB AFTER FULLY DEPLETING THIS ONE AND LOSING CONNECTION, ASSHOLE. ENJOY YOUR SPRINT BUSINSSS UNLIMITED DATA PLAN DIP****. - is basically the vibe I get every time I would go to add data.
Makes total sense for an "unlimited data" account.
And don't think you'll get by on the "limited 2g speed." I don't remember 2g all that much, but this is not it. It is no speed. 100% unusable.
What I did: Got an inexpensive phone that isn't locked down, currently I'm using a nextbit robin and an iPhone 5S, switching back and forth. I buy a 65$/month straight talk prepaid plan - full high speed unlimited data. I use over 100gb a month just in Hotspot data. No issues so far. **** sprint. You use up your measly 5gb of data, and you havd to buy a gig at a time, untill your service month resets. No other options whatsoever. You can even transfer data from other devices.
I really regret this phone. I'm on nougat beta, and my battery life is HORRIBLE. My phone shuts off and dies at 7%, after going from 30% down in 5 minutes of web browsing. Need to revert back to regular build and root. I was able to get unlimited Hotspot on certain buulds if rooted, but the root method for this device is inherently unstable, so... There's no real ideal situation with this device.

Astro2012 said:
I'm reading as much as I can, but I'm pretty much green! I have never owned an unlocked phone, rooted anything, or know where to start or if that's even what I need to do.
Here is my situation. My wife and I started a small business and talked with sprint. I was told unlimited data. I asked specifically if that was including hotspot. The answer was yes. I also gave to 2 locations that we worked in and wanted to know about coverage. I was told coverage in both. NOT! I'm Roaming at one location. I have not roamed in years!! Seriously??? WOW!
My questions:
1- After talking to them, I indeed have unlimited data... but only 5 gigs is included in my hotspot mode. I called because I got the notification today that I was capped until the 29th of FEB. My phone runs fine. Youtube.. surf.. perfect. Hotspot.. nope.
What can I do to use the unlimited data I was assured I would get? What's an easy work around?
2- I'm roaming.... seriously.... What the frick? Is there a solution for that?
Thanks for your help in advance.
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You have 30 days to take the phone back.
As far as rooting and tethering goes, if you use too much data or roam constantly they will send you a warning letter and eventually void your contract. I know because it happened to me on a two year contract with my Galaxy S2. I rooted it and was using the hacked hotspot as my home internet (I was in school living in a tiny studio apartment). One month I used like 60GB of data. I received a letter telling me to stop which I did (for a while). A few months later I again used upwards of 50GB of data tethering without a hotspot plan. They sent me another letter but this time it was informing me that I had 30 days to find another carrier and that they were terminating my contract. The surprising thing was that in the letter it stated there was ZERO early termination fees and I was able to keep my phone with a clean IMEI.
After reading the contract it states that Sprint offers unlimited data, calls and roaming with a fair use clause. Excessive roaming or data usage out of the scope of what Sprint considers fair use will force them to essentially cut their losses with a customer who they feel is abusing that fair use by roaming a lot or using large amounts of data. It's basically an amicable parting.
18 months later I was able to walk into a Sprint store and open another line without any issues