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Just to stop the confusion and back and forth about this topic.
LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it. The bad news is that the G4’s in-box wall charger doesn’t support Quick Charge 2.0, so you’re going to need a new wall wart — such as the Motorola Turbo Charger — if you want to juice up your G4 in a hurry.
Here's the Link:
http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-does-support-qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-technology/
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Ok thanks for the confirmation.....
Are there many manufacturers which provides the 2.0 charger with the device?
Yeah the issue was it out of the box it has neither.
To wireless charge you need a case or a sticker. To fast charge you need to buy your own charger. So when a reviewer gets the phone out of the box neither of these are available and that's where the confusion came from. Good conformation nevertheless.
I'm glad there's a thread about it, hopefully it doesn't drive the price higher on the device once officially released They are competing to get Samsung and Apple users for the most part. All these favorable reviews and positive feedback Internet Wide should do the trick.
Honestly I was aiming towards the Galaxy S6 myself but am glad I held off until the G4 was officially out. Unless there's a serious problem with the the device I am 99.9% sure that this will be my next smartphone.
Even current Galaxy S6 users are looking at the G4 and that is saying a lot.
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Just to stop the confusion and back and forth about this topic.
LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it. The bad news is that the G4’s in-box wall charger doesn’t support Quick Charge 2.0, so you’re going to need a new wall wart — such as the Motorola Turbo Charger — if you want to juice up your G4 in a hurry.
Here's the Link:
http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-does-support-qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-technology/
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Yeah but the weird thing is I have the nexus 2.0 charger and even with that it doesn't quick charge like my nexus.
I am thinking it will be a software update with changes to the kernel.
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Yeah but the weird thing is I have the nexus 2.0 charger and even with that it doesn't quick charge like my nexus.
I am thinking it will be a software update with changes to the kernel.
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Its possible, that reviewer on the video Ive posted could have already updated the software. Do you have another quick charge cable you can try it on, maybe a Samsung one?
LG was surprised themselves its working on their units.
"LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it."
I read that LG said that Quick Charge will be enabled in the software the G4 is officially released with. Since the reviewers have pre-release software they don't have it.
The Android Central podcast said they tried the Motorola Turbo Charger with the G4, but the phone said an unknown charger was connected and to charge at full speed use the LG charger.
So can someone provide a link to turbo chargers or manufacturer and model of charges that support this?
The reason why i assume is that the Kernel doesn't have the feature integrated yet or it isn't enabled
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.method private setQuickCharging(I)V
is in com.lge.services.jar.out\smali\com\android\server\power\PowerManagerServiceEx.smali which i found when comparing the G4 with the G3 frameworks, it is located on line 3100 if you wan't to check it out, however i ain't sure if this is somehow "disabeld" or if it just lies there and waiting for it to be enabled.
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So can someone provide a link to turbo chargers or manufacturer and model of charges that support this?
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Here ya go. Several including car chargers on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Charge-Certified-Watt-Charger/dp/B00QFVRV1O
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00P9UILUM/ref=pd_aw_sim_107_1?refRID=13PDYX9KCCQVK1NCH6ZB
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The reason why i assume is that the Kernel doesn't have the feature integrated yet or it isn't enabled
Code:
.method private setQuickCharging(I)V
is in com.lge.services.jar.out\smali\com\android\server\power\PowerManagerServiceEx.smali which i found when comparing the G4 with the G3 frameworks, it is located on line 3100 if you wan't to check it out, however i ain't sure if this is somehow "disabeld" or if it just lies there and waiting for it to be enabled.
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So can we all agree - at least in USA - that QC is not actually turned on yet. I kind of thought it would be on, since the acknowledged the chip/phone was capable, but we need to buy our own adaptors. Well, I bought a few QC 2.0 plugs, but I'd say they are doing nothing (I have never had QC 2.0 so not entirely sure what to look for other than "faster" charging - which does not seem to happen). Apparently they acknowledged too late in the shipping cycle to actually update the device to accept QC 2.0. BTW, I have seen companies, even in the ship cycle, send an update to devices so when you got them, they updated when started up.
I've been using my 2.0 charger that I bought from amazon for my Z3 and it is indeed working. phone charges at slightly faster than a percentage point a minute.
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So can we all agree - at least in USA - that QC is not actually turned on yet. I kind of thought it would be on, since the acknowledged the chip/phone was capable, but we need to buy our own adaptors. Well, I bought a few QC 2.0 plugs, but I'd say they are doing nothing (I have never had QC 2.0 so not entirely sure what to look for other than "faster" charging - which does not seem to happen). Apparently they acknowledged too late in the shipping cycle to actually update the device to accept QC 2.0. BTW, I have seen companies, even in the ship cycle, send an update to devices so when you got them, they updated when started up.
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Yup its just not active. And the new M feature doze. is a joke its in the framework of Android 5.0 of both G3 and G4 not sure if active though
So.. I'm confused. I got the phone last night and it took like 9 hours to fully charge to 100%.
I don't get my QC 2.0 charger until next week, but ... is it confirmed that it isn't activated?
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So.. I'm confused. I got the phone last night and it took like 9 hours to fully charge to 100%.
I don't get my QC 2.0 charger until next week, but ... is it confirmed that it isn't activated?
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No simply that the phone's chip supports it but you need the proper charger for it.
It shouldn't take 9 hours even with the out of the box charger, more like 2 hours maximum.
The European H815 will charge at 9V, but the LG G4 draws nothing like the current which other Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 devices do.
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No simply that the phone's chip supports it but you need the proper charger for it.
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Phew. Okay, I ordered the AUKEY 2.0 QC charger from Amazon.
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It shouldn't take 9 hours even with the out of the box charger, more like 2 hours maximum.
The European H815 will charge at 9V, but the LG G4 draws nothing like the current which other Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 devices do.
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I'm reading from other threads that it's normal to have slow charges the first few times..
Is this not accurate? That was literally my first charge.
No phone I have ever owned has charged slowly the first few times.
If you are using the stock cable/charger something is either faulty or they just didn't handshake together properly. I have had that happen a few times, not regularly though.
Like I say using the standard charger it should take around 120mins, you will only save 20mins or so at the moment by using an Aukey charger.
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Like I say using the standard charger it should take around 120mins, you will only save 20mins or so at the moment by using an Aukey charger.
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Thanks for the information. Is it safe to assume that this is just a guess or an estimate, since you haven't actually used a QC 2.0 charger on the G4? Or is this proven by your device?
The only reason why I question is because there are a lot of G4 users on QC 2.0 chargers who are stating that they are having great experience with their charge times in comparison to the stock charger.
By stating that it's a 100 min with a QC 2.0 vs 120 min with a 1.8V charger, you're not talking about much of a difference.
Hello,,
Some users posted information that the new galaxy phones will not support the Quick Charge 3.0 but only 2.0 :crying:
I contacted Qualcomm and Samsung and they both weren't able to provide me whether a conformation or denial about it.
So what do you think for those who like this feature? Will the new phones support it or not? because to me a phone with 3600mah should really have the Quick Charge 3.0.
the manual on page 12 says 2.0
Qualcomm s820 soc supports quick charge 3.0. Is it possible they have not activated that feature? Sure I geuss. Also they are offering more than one soc depending on your location. So the s820 won't be the chip for everyone.
I am only going by what the manual says. If Samsung put that in the manual then that's what it is unless they made a mistake with it, and then they should be able to clarify
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I am only going by what the manual says. If Samsung put that in the manual then that's what it is unless they made a mistake with it, and then they should be able to clarify
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It could be something that they will update or something in the kernel that can be modified by developers. I'm saying that the processor supports it. So it if they truly are only using version 2.0 it will most likely be enabled to 3.0 in the future.
If it does great. If it doesn't oh well.
There is a big chance that the new upcoming phones will support the QC 3.0 through an update.. the HTC A9 has a micro usb port and didn't support QC 3.0 until they release an update for it so I really hope Sammy will do that too for both of new phones!
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Hello,,
Some users posted information that the new galaxy phones will not support the Quick Charge 3.0 but only 2.0 :crying:
I contacted Qualcomm and Samsung and they both weren't able to provide me whether a conformation or denial about it.
So what do you think for those who like this feature? Will the new phones support it or not? because to me a phone with 3600mah should really have the Quick Charge 3.0.
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agree with you! Quick charge 3.0 will be much better.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapd...-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-powered-snapdragon-820
To ensure that you’re spending less time plugged into a socket and more time enjoying your mobile experience, the Samsung Galaxy S7 is outfitted with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0: It fuels your device up to 75 percent faster than conventional charging.
I saw this on gsm arena. Another website mentioned the 83 percent charging in 30 minutes. So not sure what to believe.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7-7821.php
It's Quick Charge 2.0 only in S7:
"[Samsung] told PC Advisor at MWC2016 that it thinks Quick Charge 2.0 is fast enough"
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/review/a...msung-galaxy-s6-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-3635467/
So it doesn't have QC3.0 and it doesn't sound like Samsung is committed to enabling it. Is it on the table for custom Roms? I know the processor supports it but does the rest of the hardware? I just got my aukey QC3.0 wall charger in the mail and even though it's QC2.0 backwards compatible, it'd be nice to put it to use.
Here is a listing on the Qualcomm site which lists devices supporting their technologies. The S7 showed up under a search list for QC2.0 and had a page outlining its (mostly Snapdragon-based) technologies:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge
At the bottom there is a bullet item claiming QC2.0 for 75% faster charging than non-QC devices...
It's odd, most of the documentation of QC3.0 focuses on more efficiency, but they don't make any direct comparisons of speed. In fact, one article even clarified that QC3.0 has the same max power as QC2.0 and the same target power flow and what it added was fine grained control over voltage and that it may help the speed of charging on lower voltage devices. So, it's a mixed message as to how much benefit it might provide a cell phone, the 0-83% figure I've seen quoted is often "a device went from ..." meaning they could have chosen the device that was least suited to QC2 for their benchmark and that device would be the one that would benefit most from QC3.0. But, in the end, maybe QC3 really didn't offer much real-world charging performance for the S7? Still, the greater efficiency due to having better control over voltage might have been a nice change even if the total speed wasn't that much better.
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Here is a listing on the Qualcomm site which lists devices supporting their technologies. The S7 showed up under a search list for QC2.0 and had a page outlining its (mostly Snapdragon-based) technologies:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge
At the bottom there is a bullet item claiming QC2.0 for 75% faster charging than non-QC devices...
It's odd, most of the documentation of QC3.0 focuses on more efficiency, but they don't make any direct comparisons of speed. In fact, one article even clarified that QC3.0 has the same max power as QC2.0 and the same target power flow and what it added was fine grained control over voltage and that it may help the speed of charging on lower voltage devices. So, it's a mixed message as to how much benefit it might provide a cell phone, the 0-83% figure I've seen quoted is often "a device went from ..." meaning they could have chosen the device that was least suited to QC2 for their benchmark and that device would be the one that would benefit most from QC3.0. But, in the end, maybe QC3 really didn't offer much real-world charging performance for the S7? Still, the greater efficiency due to having better control over voltage might have been a nice change even if the total speed wasn't that much better.
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That is because QC3 doesn't improve the speed of charging at all. The only thing it does is make it more efficient.
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That is because QC3 doesn't improve the speed of charging at all. The only thing it does is make it more efficient.
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Despite what I said in my previous post, which was mostly speculation based on the loose wording I'd seen in a number of documents from Qualcomm, there are still a number of articles that claim it is faster due to its efficiency, but not by a wide margin. For instance:
http://blog.blitzwolf.com/what-is-qc-3-fast-charging-with-blitzwolf-chargers.html
(Note that the QC3 battery is only at 70% vs 62% for QC2 and both are super-imposed over what looks like a smartphone graphic)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...8-more-power-efficient-than-quick-charge-2-0/
(same graphic, the title claims 27% faster, but the graphic only shows it being 8% ahead at the 29 minute mark)
If you listen to the video in the Android Police link they only ever compare charging speed to QC1 and conventional charging and the 38% claim vs QC2 is of efficiency. For example, from their press release:
Qualcomm said:
Quick Charge 3.0 is engineered to refuel devices up to four times faster than conventional charging. It is designed to charge twice as fast as Quick Charge 1.0 and to be 38 percent more efficient than Quick Charge 2.0.
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But, their video clearly shows that it is actually faster than QC2, it's just not 27% faster as claimed in the Android Police headline. Perhaps it might be 27% faster to 100% since the voltage step downs happen primarily at the tail end of the charge cycle and so the fine-grained voltage control will smooth that final charge level quite a bit. But getting a quick boost charge is not going to run into that since it can mainly happen at the maximum power where the existing fixed power levels of QC2 are close enough to optimal.
So maybe the video race shows what happens in real life when you aren't trying to get to 100%?
hey guys, there is a new rumor actually a photo that says that there is a new "super charger" that will charge your phone from 0-100% in less than 20 minutes....don't know if it's just a troll or true....what you think?
We'll find out tomorrow.
Seems like a no for that rumor, currently oppo has the best charger with its vooc thingamajiggy. Does 20watts and i think the battery is split into 4 sections so each section is charged at 5watts and at much lower temperatures.
Do we know yet which fast charging technology the S8 supports? Quick Charge 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, or USB Type C Power Delivery? Something else?
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it seems it uses the same charger as the S7...so quick charge 2.0...i am not mad...but they could of used 3.0....i am sure SD835 can get 4.0 but the EXYNOS can't....it's samsung fault
Qc3 isn't any quicker, still stuck at 18watts. They compared an s7 to a phone with quickcharge 3 and the s7 still charged faster.
is the fast charging between the S6 and S7 any different?
"Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 4 is designed to deliver lightning-fast charging in devices featuring Snapdragon mobile platforms. In just 5 minutes of charging, you get 5 hours of talk time.* It is also Type-C compliant and offers compatibility across other Quick Charge accessories and mobile devices."
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/battery-life
freaking samsung better not remove qc4.0 like they removed qc3.0 from note7 .
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"Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 4 is designed to deliver lightning-fast charging in devices featuring Snapdragon mobile platforms. In just 5 minutes of charging, you get 5 hours of talk time.* It is also Type-C compliant and offers compatibility across other Quick Charge accessories and mobile devices."
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/battery-life
freaking samsung better not remove qc4.0 like they removed qc3.0 from note7 .
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Gotta believe they would've made a big deal of it at the press conference if it indeed had this. Perhaps the Note 7 debacle has made them extra cautious with anything battery-related.
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I would imagine if the Exynos SoC can't rival QC4.0 on the Snapdragon then they will ensure the same experience for customers in all regions by limiting the Snapdragon charging speeds to meet Exynos, otherwise people will seek out the Snapdragon versions specifically.
I'm interested to know though as I have a USB charging hub at home with a QC2.0 port, might consider an upgrade to 3.0 if it's supported
yeah, they will keep QC 2.0 for both....
If Samsung is so worried about keeping playing field even amongst variants why don't we (U.S.) get 6 GB of RAM and 128 GB storage as reported for Chinese unit.
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Hello, i have an aukey usb quick charge 3 charger and now that i have a new xiaomi mi a1 i bought a nillkin usb type c 3.0 quick charge cable.
Even tho i have a charger and a data cable compatible with quick charge, when i charge it says "charging", not fast charging, i don't even sense a notisable decrease of charging time.
So i am doing somethong wrong? It is suppose that with oreo update quick charge is aviable on the mi a1.
tired reply , please search.
The 'fast charging' message was a bug. Congrats. U just waste money
Sad to break it to you, but the phone doesn't support Quick Charge 3.0
Who except pajeet analphabete on Indian blog said it was supposed to get QC?
I've read that one of the Oreo beta builds had quick charging enabled by mistake and Xiaomi removed it later, this is when/where rumors started. No idea if that's true though..
There is a quite big difference between "fast charge" and "quick charge" (by qualcomm). Quick Charge will not be enabled on those phones as qualcomm wants money for each device that uses it. However in oreo we have "fast charge" enabled.... also to have quick charge you'll need charger that has the qualcomm chip in it... and for the fast charge again you'll need charger that supports fast charge(basically that it is more powerful - 34W and up).
And remember it is android one device so it is as close to the aosp as possible and many of the settings are up to google to change (like the cam api 2)
I don't get the fuss around this "fast" charge "enabled" thingy. I'm using a nexus 5x charger since day 0 (back when only displayed "charging") because i've bought it as a replacement for my nexus 5x.
So, the output of the 5x charger has 3A . Now pay attention, the A1 (at least mine and i don't think i got a special edition) was charging with 2A out of the box (nougat) and also after oreo update, period.
Mi a1 does have sd625 which supports fast charging but xiaomi hasnt enabled it cause enabling that will make xiaomi pay some loyalty to snapdragon. So they didn't enable it. NO FAST CHARGING ON MI A1
This thread reminds me of countles indian videos trying to prove redmi phones support fast charging by comparing charging speeds between stock 1A chargers an qc2/3 ones. Good stuff
With custom roms and root, could you re-enable it? Yes.
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With custom roms and root, could you re-enable it? Yes.
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nope.
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This thread reminds me of countles indian videos trying to prove redmi phones support fast charging by comparing charging speeds between stock 1A chargers an qc2/3 ones. Good stuff
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Redmi note 5 has the icon of fast charging with micro usb, but Mi A1 with usb C does not, lol. My phone Mi A1 charges fully within 1 hour from 1%(would say... 40min) with an aukey QC 3.0 and a blitzwolf amp usb cable.
bastienff said:
Hello, i have an aukey usb quick charge 3 charger and now that i have a new xiaomi mi a1 i bought a nillkin usb type c 3.0 quick charge cable.
Even tho i have a charger and a data cable compatible with quick charge, when i charge it says "charging", not fast charging, i don't even sense a notisable decrease of charging time.
So i am doing somethong wrong? It is suppose that with oreo update quick charge is aviable on the mi a1.
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Don't worry about people bragging ie lying about how their phones charge up faster with quick charge. Or some sort of forced charging is going on which isn't good for the lifespan of the battery. Samsung allows users to turn off fast charging in the settings to reduce excessive heat which says something about fast charging.
So you guys are saying it doesn't support Quick Charge™. But I just downloaded CPU-Z for fun and it read the fact that the MI A1 - My unit at least runs Snapdragon 626 as opposed to what GSMArena says (625) and according to this article it is supposed to support it. I don't have a fast enough charger - Never thought I'd need one since the phone supposedly doesn't support fast charging, but if it runs 626 it might. If I can edit this post I'll add a screenshot from the phone in a moment.
Can't seem to add the screen shot, so here's the link to it:
https://imgur.com/a/PhgdBME
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With custom roms and root, could you re-enable it? Yes.
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yes. I'm using a motorola turbo power charger and a magisk module 'force fast charge'. getting ~2000mA.
The phone has the available hardware for fast charging but xiaomi disabled it, it should be coming soon in oreo or pie
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yes. I'm using a motorola turbo power charger and a magisk module 'force fast charge'. getting ~2000mA.
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I tried that module, but don't see any difference. Plus, I don't see the force fast charge folder in solid explorer anywhere!
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I tried that module, but don't see any difference. Plus, I don't see the force fast charge folder in solid explorer anywhere!
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depends on your charger. :good:
Dang, I JUST BOUGHT 5. QC3 chargers!!!
... I just read on some other forms that the mean one supports fast charging qc3 charger I bought a bunch of chargers. does anyone know will queue c3 chargers work on all types of phones and devices even if they don't have any Qualcomm chip in them will they still charge at your 1 amp or 2 amp speed?? and that's question does anybody know what happened to the license agreement between called come and show me about working out the deal to get the Alt-X low-latency and the Ap-X codec license agreement???
Hi, recently I bought a new s10 plus imported from the USA however I am living in a place in which 3 socket adapters are often used and it's not convenient to use 2 socket ones. But I do have my old Pocophone f1 charger so is it okay to use it or will it damage my S10+'s battery?
No problem at all.
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No problem at all.
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ty for the reply sir.
I looked it up, it has QC3, 18W charging, actually better than the S10 ironically. So the charger will charge the S10+ at it's normal and fast charge rates no problem at all without issue, as etherez said.
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I looked it up, it has QC3, 18W charging, actually better than the S10 ironically. So the charger will charge the S10+ at it's normal and fast charge rates no problem at all without issue, as etherez said.
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thx for the confirmation ..