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So I currently own:
iPad 2- love the fact its so fluid
G-Note 5.3- Slow and I find the s-pen is not accurate off by 1/8 on an inch but loved the idea.
SGIII- Traded my Note for a SGIII and love the speed.
Previously owned:
SG 10.1- Returned felt Gingerbread is too slow and laggy. Just doesn't have the smooth of iPad.
Moto Zoom 10.1- Returned for the above reason as well.
As you can see I WANT an Android tablet but frankly they just have been as fluid as IOS. So anyone coming from the iPad to the Note 10.1. Since I never had the retina display I think I can safely give it up but I want fluid. And I want the S-pen but I want it accurate and responsive like paper.
So thoughts and opinions.
Just go down to your local brick and mortar and play with one for an hour and decide for yourself. Or, if you're incapable of deciding for yourself then head down to the Apple retail store and the geniuses will happily tell you what to buy.
S Pen is very accurate (I haven't seen anyone complain about it being off a little) and very responsive.
It's as not fluid as an iPad, but should be fluid enough. I actually returned Asus Transformer Infinity before buying this one, and I can say that Note 10.1 is ten time more fluid than Transformer Infinity. It addition, with Jelly Bean (with Project Butter) update coming within this year it will be much better. I don't think you will feel like you need Jelly Bean though because it already works smoothly as is.
Coming from iPad 2, the screen will look amazing with higher resolution. However, if fluidity is your priority, iPad is probably the best choice. But I have a feeling that you will be happy with this device.
My wife was fed up with her iPad 2 (it was free, though, a business gift) . When I had my SGN10.1 she played around with it for 1hr , got in her car and went to buy her own SGN10.1 ....... :good:
Earthdog said:
So I currently own:
iPad 2- love the fact its so fluid
G-Note 5.3- Slow and I find the s-pen is not accurate off by 1/8 on an inch but loved the idea.
SGIII- Traded my Note for a SGIII and love the speed.
Previously owned:
SG 10.1- Returned felt Gingerbread is too slow and laggy. Just doesn't have the smooth of iPad.
Moto Zoom 10.1- Returned for the above reason as well.
As you can see I WANT an Android tablet but frankly they just have been as fluid as IOS. So anyone coming from the iPad to the Note 10.1. Since I never had the retina display I think I can safely give it up but I want fluid. And I want the S-pen but I want it accurate and responsive like paper.
So thoughts and opinions.
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Gingerbread??? Tab 10.1 was Honeycomb... That said it had a Tegra2, Tegras are notorious for being first on the market to bump up core count but horrendously poor performance per core, and oddly, some of the worst GPU performance which is odd considering that NVidia is a GPU company.
If you're happy with the I9300, you should be happy with the N80xx - Same resolution and exact same CPU/GPU.
In addition, once Jellybean hits, UI performance should be significantly improved... Assuming Samsung doesn't dork it up. Might want to look at how the I9300 Jellybean leak is performing.
Thank you all for the replies. And I stand corrected the original 10.1 was Honeycomb. I guess I will make the trip and give one a shot.
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Thank you all for the replies. And I stand corrected the original 10.1 was Honeycomb. I guess I will make the trip and give one a shot.
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Just return my Asus TF700 and bought my second Note(first one went to U of Iowa with my daughter) and couldn't be happier.
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This is not a hard choice. The iPad is a very different device if your into pen. If the question is about the pen being solid, it's solid.
Feel secure that your getting good pen from this.
I came from the iPad. I've been trying to switch to Android for over a year. Of the half dozen Android tablets I've tried, the Note 10.1 is my switching device. Don't get me wrong, I'm keeping the iPad mostly because my daughter uses it for some games and secondly because there are some games I like that Android doesn't have (Kingdom Rush!).
So yeah, my retina iPad has been reduced to sloppy seconds.
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I just sold my (New) iPad and i want to switch to an Android tab, what i don't like about the Note 10.1 is the low resolution it dould of made my choice easier if it had a full HD screen, now i'm torn between the Infinity and the Note 10.1 is de res really bad on the Note in comparision with the Infinity or New iPad?
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I just sold my (New) iPad and i want to switch to an Android tab, what i don't like about the Note 10.1 is the low resolution it dould of made my choice easier if it had a full HD screen, now i'm torn between the Infinity and the Note 10.1 is de res really bad on the Note in comparision with the Infinity or New iPad?
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I don't notice the reduced resolution at all - and as others have pointed out, excessive resolution causes problems. UI performance on Infinity, battery performance (the new iPad requires around 50% more battery capacity to achieve the same runtime) for iPad. This means the new iPad takes longer to charge and is heavier.
iPad and Infinity - making compromises for spec epeen and marketing
Note 10.1 - proper systems engineering, acknowledging that the benefits of a higher resolution display beyond 1280x800 (or was it 720?) are far less than the costs (need for much higher GPU fill rates, which means either worse framerates or more battery consumption).
I had the iPad1 the day it came out, and the iPad2 when it came out. The only reason I bought either tablet was that I wanted to use it for taking notes (without needing pen and paper) and reading PDF's (in a more natural way than on a laptop), and they only did one of those things. I sold my iPad2 a few months ago, and have just now picked up the Note 10.1. Me like!
The build quality is a little lower than I've been used to with the iPad, but feels acceptable in the hand.
The note-taking software is a little rough around the edges, as if Samsung doesn't realize they can tap into a HUGE education market with it.
In terms of taking notes in class, it's everything I ever hoped for -- the digitizer is very accurate, super rarely messes up.
Lack of high-res screen is disappointing, but it still looks a lot better than my iPad ever did!
The whole point of the Note 10.1 is taking notes and drawing. Hopefully Samsung will realize this at some point and polish up the rough edges and market it for education, ie. taking notes in class, but 'til then it's a fine tablet as is.
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I don't notice the reduced resolution at all - and as others have pointed out, excessive resolution causes problems. UI performance on Infinity, battery performance (the new iPad requires around 50% more battery capacity to achieve the same runtime) for iPad. This means the new iPad takes longer to charge and is heavier.
iPad and Infinity - making compromises for spec epeen and marketing
Note 10.1 - proper systems engineering, acknowledging that the benefits of a higher resolution display beyond 1280x800 (or was it 720?) are far less than the costs (need for much higher GPU fill rates, which means either worse framerates or more battery consumption).
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Thanks for your reply, i will try to go to the store this week and test both of them and i will leave with one of them.
From what i have read, i think these are the main differences between the two.
Note 10.1
Likes- DAC, Speakers orientation, CPU/GPU/RAM, Design, S-Pen.
Dislikes- Screen resolution (I will try this at the store with websites and videos)
TF700 Infinity
Likes- Full HD res, Tegra 3 Gaming, Design, Dock, Stock Android.
Dislikes- Laggy performance/ I/O performance, Not so loud mono speaker with bad orientation, Build quality issues.
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Thanks for your reply, i will try to go to the store this week and test both of them and i will leave with one of them.
From what i have read, i think these are the main differences between the two.
Note 10.1
Likes- DAC, Speakers orientation, CPU/GPU/RAM, Design, S-Pen.
Dislikes- Screen resolution (I will try this at the store with websites and videos)
TF700 Infinity
Likes- Full HD res, Tegra 3 Gaming, Design, Dock, Stock Android.
Dislikes- Laggy performance/ I/O performance, Not so loud mono speaker with bad orientation, Build quality issues.
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With regards to the Screen resolution, I am very happy with it, maybe there are only a few users who genuinely dislike the display and others are just repeating what they have heard from other reviews.
Not sure if you will be fully able to test both machines in store for finding defects etc unless they are blatantly obvious as I have been using an Asus TF101 prior to the note and the defects usually show days/months later on the machines. I had to RMA my Asus once during its warranty period but I collected the faults over time and had them repaired in one visit, one speaker stopped working, battery drained very quickly and when it stopped charging I had to send it back.
I have not owned a Samsung tablet but have owned a few of their phones and currently own the phone version of the Note which I also love however it has not always been good. Previously owned their first galaxy S phone and had nothing but problems with it and the GPS issue was never really resolved on the phone which was poor even after updates. Samsung tend to release too many products too soon after the launch of a new product making the previous model obsolete and support/updates used to be very slow. Based on the above issues I moved back to HTC phones and am back now again to Samsung but this time it seems that they are focusing on quality and their latest product, the Note 10.1 really does seem to tick all the right boxes for for now....
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With regards to the Screen resolution, I am very happy with it, maybe there are only a few users who genuinely dislike the display and others are just repeating what they have heard from other reviews.
Not sure if you will be fully able to test both machines in store for finding defects etc unless they are blatantly obvious as I have been using an Asus TF101 prior to the note and the defects usually show days/months later on the machines. I had to RMA my Asus once during its warranty period but I collected the faults over time and had them repaired in one visit, one speaker stopped working, battery drained very quickly and when it stopped charging I had to send it back.
I have not owned a Samsung tablet but have owned a few of their phones and currently own the phone version of the Note which I also love however it has not always been good. Previously owned their first galaxy S phone and had nothing but problems with it and the GPS issue was never really resolved on the phone which was poor even after updates. Samsung tend to release too many products too soon after the launch of a new product making the previous model obsolete and support/updates used to be very slow. Based on the above issues I moved back to HTC phones and am back now again to Samsung but this time it seems that they are focusing on quality and their latest product, the Note 10.1 really does seem to tick all the right boxes for for now....
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I know some people yell about specs that they only heard about without knowing what it adds, but it is not in my case, i usually browse a lot and i also hate seeing big pixels like for example on the iPad 2, this is what i liked about the New iPad the browsing experience was quitte good (with Chrome) and i could not see any pixels in normal use. That is why it will be the most important for me on a tablet.
I've had a lot of experience with Samsung and HTC in the past and it was the same as you HTC was a master, but if the Note 10.1 resembles the S3 that i own now than it will be the tab to beat. Samsung improved a lot since the Galaxy S in terms of software implementation and support at least this is what i experience now on my S3.
The only time you will notice the resolution difference with the Note is if you are trying to read really tiny text. Othewise this screen looks totally amazing.
That being said it all comes down to the s-pen. If you want a pen get the Note, if not get the ipad.
Sent from my awesome Note 10.1
Stability
The biggest factor for me. I just didn't know that Android tablet can be this stable until used Galaxy Note 10.1. By choosing Android Ecosystem over the iOS ecosystem, I was always under the impression we are giving up the stability. Galaxy Note 10.1 is even more stable than my iPad 2. I have had only a single crush on stock browser for the entire week of use. At this point, I am even doubting the event. May be I had accidentally clicked close button.
Speed
Very fast device. Transformer Infinity when its at maximum speed I believe matches the Galaxy Note, but galaxy note constantly at its speed.
Sustainability (Battery Life)
Amazing is all I can say on this regard. This system can get me 10 hours easily with constant browsing, video play, and even with some gaming. Infinity only gave me 5-6 hours at maximum without dock. If I played game, it can be as short as 3-4 hours. This was unfortunately not acceptable for me. Some may argue but with "dock". My take on this was it is nice to have dock sometimes, but I got tablet because of its portability. I don't want to carry around extra pound every where I go. Otherwise, I would simply carry my macbook air around.
S-pen
Honestly, I don't really use this feature but if I had this when I was in school, this would have been ideal. I even purchased HP Windows Tablet with premium price of ~$2000 when I was at school. The battery life was suboptimal and could not really use it for whole day of lecture. But since Samsung is making this is its unique selling feature, this made it to my third S.
Screen
Unfortunately, this is the weakness. Not bad screen but if you have used HD screen it is noticeable difference. And this is not some random feature that most don't care. This is everyday use, always on feature so lack of this point is making Galaxy Note always a tough decision to call "the best android tablet."
I'll take the GNote screen any day, if it means I can have this amazing tablet that just works. No issues or crashes - it just works. I didn't know how bad my ThinkPad Tablet was until I got this tab.
The display is nice. Its just not 1920*1280 or whatever.
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Agree 100% with you... Moved from TF700 to SGN10.1 just for 4S...
HD display is definitely lovely and like I said I miss it. But stability once you experience is equal or even more important factor. I cannot take a note, bring up reference etc. at work and suddenly my application crushes and start over. But yes. I truly miss HD display and that is why I am still checking infinity forum to see if stability is improved.
In theory, infinity still has potential. Assuming their I/O issue is not truly bounded by flash drive i.e. hardware level, if it gets fixed by software and who knows whatever else samsung is doing correctly, and ASUS applies that Infinity can have both HD and stability. Whereas, Galaxy Note 10.1 is essentially near perfect system of its own if we excluded HD screen BUT it is never fixable.
Again very tough choice. But if infinity does not get the stability, I don't think I can go back to it as again I cannot use system that crushes randomly every other hour especially after experiencing the stability of Galaxy Note.
By the way for the defence of Infinity, I again say that infinity's browsing speed can be as fast as that of Galaxy Note. I did end up doing some build.prop tweak before returning mine Infinity, but with that I compared side by side with infinity and galaxy note visiting exact same site at the same time of clicking. Sometimes, infinity actually loaded faster BUT infinity could not sustain the speed as time goes by; whereas, galaxy note is always at that speed. So again stability and perhaps reliability on galaxy note, which seems to match that of iOS, which for apple fans the main selling point of their device.
Please stay on topic guys.
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What build.prop tweaks did you do to make things faster?
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What build.prop tweaks did you do to make things faster?
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Sorry I was talking about infinity there. I m on 100% stock on galaxy note.
So far, quite nice. Its definitely nicer tham the N7. It matches my GNote 2 quite nicely. I hope Seido comes out with a case for it. The case at Best Buy was too pricey and not what I really wanted. $49, a bit steep for a note book cover.
I think my N7 has seen the lasts of its days, but only if I can convince wifey to let me keep this.
Just wanted to say hello and share my initial experiences. Its very comfortable to hold.
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I love the feel of it in the hand, I think the weight is about perfect for a device like this. It's pretty nice using it as a notepad with how good the SPen works too.
That said, I think the placement of the capacitive buttons feels way off. In portrait which seems like the desired orientation the buttons feel too pushed in toward the center to reach naturally. It feels nothing like my note 2 in that respect. I think it's to avoid the problem you have in landscape where the buttons are easy to hit. Either way feels off, and there should be an option to turn them off. However, being able to press them with the stylus is long overdue, the phone should have that tech.
Best thing about this tablet is how good it gets SPen usage, it's the best most useable version Samsung's made in my opinion. If you mainly take handwritten notes, this is the best tablet I've tried.
Worst thing is screen resolution. If you're used to nice, high pixel density screens this is a major downgrade. It looks as bad as the iPad mini to me despite having better ppi. I looked at it in the store trying to judge this very thing, but once I got it home and started reading on it the text blur immediately started to bother me. I'm a heavy reader and this part is bumming me out. The reading mode just adds a sort of sepia tint to the page to reduce glare it can't magically make the text crisper.
I haven't tried much reading, I plan on using it more for work. I probably could have used the Nexus 7, but, I love the Note products that line.
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Had one since yesterday and it's very nice. Coming from a Nexus 7 and a Note 10.1. This is my favourite things about each combined into the one package. I get the nice portable size of the N7, combined with the multi window and s-pen of the note 10.1. the 10.1 was just too bulky for me and it's been collecting dust ever since I got the Note 2.
The screen resolution hasn't really phased me, I guess coming from the 10.1 has helped a lot in those regards. While things look fuzzy on that thing this looks nice and sharp in comparison.
I'm not sure if I'm imagining it but the software seems a bit more optimised on this one too. There was a slight lag on the 10.1 but this is every bit as buttery smooth as the experience on my Note 2. Good work Samsung, getting better all the time.
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So far, quite nice. Its definitely nicer tham the N7.
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Can you describe the nicer terms?I am just confused about that.
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I'm not sure if I'm imagining it but the software seems a bit more optimised on this one too. There was a slight lag on the 10.1 but this is every bit as buttery smooth as the experience on my Note 2. Good work Samsung, getting better all the time.
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In some of the online reviews I read, they mentioned that the N8 felt a lot smoother then the 10.1. It does seem they tweaked the software for better performance (as well as having some software features and customer gripes on the 10.1 apparently corrected). And some of it may be due to the slightly better CPU.
Picked one up yesterday to replace my N7 as well. This thing is as fast as my laptop, browsing is buttery smooth and pages load extremely quick. IT feels a lot lighter and thinner than the N7 and definitely a huge step up in perf.
While the DPI/res of the screen is OK, the colors and black level are superior to the N7. Videos look fantastic. And finally I get more storage with a SD card slot.
Grabbed one too. After putting up with the ridiculous lag on an ASUS TF700 it's a joy to use the Note 8 just for its response time and buttery smoothness. Already rooted mine.
Also found a cheap case on Amazon that appears to support the on/off function -- screen goes off when I close it, comes back on when I open it up.
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Galaxy Note 2 + 8
Got mine today. Also came from N7. It's much snappier and the screen is lovely!
The pen is great too!
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Can you describe the nicer terms?I am just confused about that.
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Performance, look wise, basically everything. All around better.
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Had one since yesterday and it's very nice. Coming from a Nexus 7 and a Note 10.1. This is my favourite things about each combined into the one package. I get the nice portable size of the N7, combined with the multi window and s-pen of the note 10.1. the 10.1 was just too bulky for me
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Exact same for me. Just sold my Note 10.1 today...luckily for the same price I bought it for! So that's a win. LOL Like you...also had the Nexus 7 and so far this seems to be the best of both worlds.
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I'm not sure if I'm imagining it but the software seems a bit more optimised on this one too. There was a slight lag on the 10.1 but this is every bit as buttery smooth as the experience on my Note 2. Good work Samsung, getting better all the time.
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Well, the processor is a bit faster and might have better architecture (not my area to really say) which might be a little of what you're experiencing. I also noticed when my Note 10.1 started to fill up...had about 2gb left of free space on internal storage...it was starting to get little lag spikes as well. We'll see if the 8.0 has that issues since I plan to install the same apps!
I agree, also got one this week and was pleasantly surprised, way better than I expected - best Samsung tablet I've ever used.
I've had mine for a few days now. Coming from every tab you can think of (I'm a bit of an android junky and write for an android site ). Most recently the Nexus 10 and 7.
A few pros - Snappy tablet, s pen works well, nice size, decent battery life, attractive looking tablet and the cameras are fine.
A few cons - Screen is very grainy (look at your notifications in the top left before you pull down the notification bar and your app icons), menu and back buttons are poorly placed (Samsung should have went with on screen for this size. I hit the back and menu buttons way to much in landscape), of course the cheap plastic feel and finally the price tag ($427 is pretty steep for a 16 gig).
These are just a few pros and cons (quickly written on a CIG break at work). I love the tablet, but my two big gripes are the screen and the price tag. Other than that I recommend this tablet to anyone seeking a tablet this size. Now let's hope this tab gets a lot of dev love (that brings me back to the price tag).
Edit. My beef with the screen is most likely because I'm coming from a Nexus 10 (best tablet screen I've ever seen) and a DNA (best phone screen I've ever seen). The screen on the Note 8.0 is fine.... just very grainy coming from those devices.
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Recently, I sent my TF300T in for an RMA (after to owning it for 4 months) for it to come back in a worse condition with the plastic case popping out, glass not bonded properly, scratches and a badly scuffed charger/adaptor. I live in the UK and it was the retailer's responsibility to fix the tablet, so when it came back with problems I was offered a replacement or a different tablet of my choice. I chose the Note 10.1. I've had the tablet for around 3 days.
Display
The Note 10.1s display is better than the TF300s. On the Asus Transformer Pad the whites appeared yellow and I had light bleed along the right side of the screen. My Note only has a small amount of bleed along the right side which is only really noticeable in a dark room. Banding was also an issue on the TF300 due to the use of a cheap screen. This doesn't seem to be apparent on the Note 10.1...
Performance
The TF300T suffers constant lags due to the use of cheap NAND flash memory, this caused the browser to repeatedly suffer 'Force close' messages, this doesn't seem to happen on the Note :good:. Running Androbench my Note 10.1 also beats the TF300T.
The processor bests the Tegra 3 found in the TF300T. The extra 1GB of RAM also helps :highfive:
Build Quality
The reviews I read criticised the Note for poor build quality and that it feels 'cheap'. Personally, I think it feels more high end than the TF300T as there appears to be no creaking, unlike my TF300 (which the back felt soft and the left side of the bezel creaked).
Other points
The S-Pen is also intuitive and is a useful addition. Android 4.1 on the Note 10.1 also mostly feels smooth.
Looks like I'm a happy owner :laugh:
Glad to hear you like your new Note 10.1.
I love mine. I use it for work, play, reading, etc. I barely touch my laptop anymore.
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i'm also comes from tf300t too. Tf300t only good with hdmi port, keyboard dock and software update really fast. The rest ( performance, battery, screen...) are really sucks though.
hi
my previous android tab was a very low end micromax funbook i think it is called allwinner(not even worth comparing it to this) internationally and when i saw this tab when my nice came here for her holidays it blew me away and i just wanted it got it and im loving it The Spen is nice im just getting the feel of it and getting to understand on the same
i just love this Tab it great way beyond my budget but thanks to samsung having an offer on CC were u dont need to pay any precessing or interest on buying it i got it :laugh::good::good::laugh:
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Me too.
To OP, I agree totally. I recently had the chance to play with my moms TF300, and must say, my GN10.1 is a much nicer experience. Hers kept hanging up and force closing things. She had wanted me to root it so I could remove bloat and try to help it run faster, but I was unable to since reading up and seeing the complex process needed to do so. I was 800 miles away from my fast wifi and laptop and she only had dial up available to me. I was unable to help it and I think it is worse now with 4.1.2 on it from what she says.
i'm also coming from a TF300T and noticed a big difference with the Note.
The whole user experience (even if you don't use the S-pen) is much better, much more stable, smooth and faster overall.
I don't use the s-pen tho, it looks interesting but i mostly use the note on some surface (table, lap, etc) and it's not pratical to use it that way with the pen, i don't miss the s-pen either so may next tablet will probably not be a note, but right now the note is still worth it anyway for the general performance and smoothness, i think it's still the most smooth 10" tablet available.
For me the only drawback is the resolution, although perfectly sufficient it would be nice to have a higher resolution.
Former TF300T user here, too. Tablets perform like night & day. I was fed up with all the stutters on the TF300T. Yes, I DO miss the hdmi out, but the performance & benefits of the Note ae much greater. Plus, I have the Note 2, so I can sync s-notes between them both.
I came from the original Transformer, actually, but I think it's tough to compare the 300T, a budget model, with the Note, the flagship tablet of Samsung..
In any case, I loved the color and look of my Transformer, but I also love the color and look of my Note. I just wish the Note had a keyboard dock as well. That would make my Note completely irreplaceable.
I came from the TF700 and don't miss the overheating slow as molasses tablet at all. ASUS can go to hell.
Hi guys,
I've been reading and watching alot of videos on youtube regarding the Note series...
I would like your very honest answer with in regards to previous experiences with Note devices, specifically Note 3, as I need to make a decision to buy the Note 4.
A) Does it start lagging after a while? I've heard many reports that it does. I'm coming from iPhone 4s (which I've been using for 3 years) and get annoyed with any lag, which I've almost never experienced with the 4s.
B) Is it possible to get rid of lag, if indeed the Note 3 does lag after a while?
C) Does the battery start dying after a while as well? I know it can be replaced easily but I would rather not spend money on it if I can help it.
Thanks alot guys. Anything you can offer to help me make the right decision will help. And I apologize if there was a thread like this before...
I have owned all the notes till note 3 (note 4 is not out yet here) and I can tell u I've been quite happy with all 3 and never had any real issues with lag (i think occasionally it does but not that bothersome to me) and the batteries have always been excellent no problem with them (but I did buy a spare one for the note 3)
I still don't know what do to myself. I want it but it's not available in my country and since i am using Tab S 8.4 LTE i am not even sure do i need huge phone like that next to Tab S.
I used Note 3 for almost half year and my experience with it was great. But reading about display problems and that metal frame and how easy it gets damaged and scratched made me think better and i am not sure should i buy it or skip N4 and wait for S6 maybe.
And as i said it's still not available to buy in my country, i can't believe how Samsung messed it up, it's been 2 months since announcement and still nothing, this never happened before with Samsung devices. And new iPhones are coming in 2-3 days. Such a shame.
If it's too expensive when it becomes available i am not getting it, but i would really like to try it even 5 minutes.
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Hi guys,
I've been reading and watching alot of videos on youtube regarding the Note series...
I would like your very honest answer with in regards to previous experiences with Note devices, specifically Note 3, as I need to make a decision to buy the Note 4.
A) Does it start lagging after a while? I've heard many reports that it does. I'm coming from iPhone 4s (which I've been using for 3 years) and get annoyed with any lag, which I've almost never experienced with the 4s.
B) Is it possible to get rid of lag, if indeed the Note 3 does lag after a while?
C) Does the battery start dying after a while as well? I know it can be replaced easily but I would rather not spend money on it if I can help it.
Thanks alot guys. Anything you can offer to help me make the right decision will help. And I apologize if there was a thread like this before...
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Its way too soon to say about all your questions. My note 3 hasnt had any decrease with time, but that doesnt mean the note 4 wont. Battery is also the same as it has always been on my note 3, but again it doesnt mean that is the same for the note 4.
I had the Note 4, now I have the Note 3 (little issue with my note 4, so its at the repair shop to be declared DOA), and I notice a few things:
Note 3 feels a lot slower
Pen on the Note 3 is far less usable in terms of merely navigating the phone, and FAR less useful. On my Note 4 i took the pen out almost all the time, because its just such a sweet feature, even if i wasnt planning on using it for anything real, but just to browse the phone with.
Screen isnt as good
It feels less sweet in hand
So thats just my little input on all of this.
*Emix* said:
I still don't know what do to myself. I want it but it's not available in my country and since i am using Tab S 8.4 LTE i am not even sure do i need huge phone like that next to Tab S.
I used Note 3 for almost half year and my experience with it was great. But reading about display problems and that metal frame and how easy it gets damaged and scratched made me think better and i am not sure should i buy it or skip N4 and wait for S6 maybe.
And as i said it's still not available to buy in my country, i can't believe how Samsung messed it up, it's been 2 months since announcement and still nothing, this never happened before with Samsung devices. And new iPhones are coming in 2-3 days. Such a shame.
If it's too expensive when it becomes available i am not getting it, but i would really like to try it even 5 minutes.
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I have a Tab S 8.4 and I still appreciate having a large screen phone too. So buying the Note 4 was easy for me. I have come from owning a Note 3 for the past 12 months too. I thought at first I may be wasting my money and that it wasn't going to be a major upgrade. I was wrong. It feels very much like a totally new phone. The way it feels in your hand is outstanding and the screen is amazing.
I don't really remember lag being an issue on my Note 3 and on the Note 4 it is too early to say but so far so good. I have never had an issue with batteries either. They aren't that expensive to replace anyway.
The Note 4 is the best phone I have ever owned (and see my sig, I have owned a lot!)
I've had my Note4 since Sat the 25th. I haven't experienced any lag at all, just a one second delay on the recent apps capacitive button, but it being a multi function button is normal. The glass is on straight so the "gap" issue is not present. I'm getting 19.5 hours of battery life with 5.0 Hours of screen on time. Very good screen with no color changing effects from any viewing angle..
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the last 6 months I was switching frequently between I phone 5s and Samsung s5, till I received my I phone 6 plus last month, which is still with me , ...... and now I am a note 4 user, my input:
I had very good stability with the note , lag is at minimum but not zero
screen is super good
battery life on bar with iPhone 6 plus, probably 1 hour more or less depend on your usage
feeling in hand is great especially compare to iPhone 6 plus ( less slippery, and feels smaller somehow)
camera is very good and actually i prefer it over the Samsung s5 and 6 +
no over heat no crash no freeze which i had about four times on my 6+ and more often on my s5 but never on iphone 5s or note 4
s pen is very very useful and for my surprise i found my self using more than expected
conclusion is note 4 is full of features and the fact is almost a PC replacement ( in term of productivity) doesn't come without a price which is ( very occasion lag)
but again remember no phone is perfect, but the note is so far the best what I have used so far
very happy with my purchase so far
but it being a multi function button is normal
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Now youre just rationalizing. Theres no reason the delay should be there. If it was merely that its a multifunction button, why isnt it the same on the backbutton? Why wasnt this the case with the Note 3, who has a multifunctionbutton in its place? Why does the recent apps on the Note 3 pop up instantly?
Nah, this is merely shoddy implementation, which I hope they will fix with a patch soon.
Other than that, its the best phone Ive used for my use, and the functions of the device are stellar. Just a great improvement over my Note 3.
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Now youre just rationalizing. Theres no reason the delay should be there. If it was merely that its a multifunction button, why isnt it the same on the backbutton? Why wasnt this the case with the Note 3, who has a multifunctionbutton in its place? Why does the recent apps on the Note 3 pop up instantly?
Nah, this is merely shoddy implementation, which I hope they will fix with a patch soon.
Other than that, its the best phone Ive used for my use, and the functions of the device are stellar. Just a great improvement over my Note 3.
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Maybe.. But it's a non issue for me really. I've never been a nit picker, if that's the only issue this phone has... Like I said.. Non issue. Jmho
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Eh, its a bit annoying for me, coming from the Note 3 where it pops up fast. And I regularly pop between apps, even with multiwindow and windowed mode options, so Id really appreciate it being sped up a lot. But yes, I dont find it a dealbreaker or anything like that, even with this flaw its still the best phone available for me, without question.
KyCigni said:
Hi guys,
I've been reading and watching alot of videos on youtube regarding the Note series...
I would like your very honest answer with in regards to previous experiences with Note devices, specifically Note 3, as I need to make a decision to buy the Note 4.
A) Does it start lagging after a while? I've heard many reports that it does. I'm coming from iPhone 4s (which I've been using for 3 years) and get annoyed with any lag, which I've almost never experienced with the 4s.
B) Is it possible to get rid of lag, if indeed the Note 3 does lag after a while?
C) Does the battery start dying after a while as well? I know it can be replaced easily but I would rather not spend money on it if I can help it.
Thanks alot guys. Anything you can offer to help me make the right decision will help. And I apologize if there was a thread like this before...
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My little input. I haven't read all posts yet so I might be writing something that has been mentioned already.
A)Samsung phones always have lags. If you decide to stay on touchwiz (Samsung launcher) which brings us to question B.
B). You can remove lag for the most part and speed up your note by simply doing a few tweaks that you can find on YouTube. or if you wanna do a little heavier tweaking depending on your carrier you can root(jailbreak) your phone, from there the possibilities are endless especially if you have an unlocked bootloader.
C) Even if your batter dies eventually, for my galaxy S4 I bought two zero lemon batteries and a charger for 10$ on Amazon. One battery lasted me a year and to this day its still good!the fast charger works amazing! And worth buying extra batteries all day! Just my opinion.
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A)Samsung phones always have lags. If you decide to stay on touchwiz (Samsung launcher) which brings us to question B.
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What lag have you seen on your Note 4? Lets say we ignore the recent apps thing, it clearly has some kind of bug there, but that has nothing to do with the launcher.
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What lag have you seen on your Note 4? Lets say we ignore the recent apps thing, it clearly has some kind of bug there, but that has nothing to do with the launcher.
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The recent apps lag is clearly a bug as you said. Hopefully they'll fix it in Lollipop. I've also noticed there is some lag when applications are being installed through the Play Store and you attempt to use the phone for other things. Coming from Nexus 5, I can confirm that this used to happen to a much lesser degree on the Nexus 5. Except with the Note 4, these lags and microstutters seems to be exemplified. Other than that, I haven't noticed any lag at all.
Ive seen some stuttering myself in the Chrome Beta browser on certain websites as Im zipping up and down a website, but thats not launcherrelated at all. Other than that, I havent seen any stuttering or lag myself.
If you want random strangers to convince you to buy any phone then this phone is not for you. You should buy it because you like it be a leader not a follower
If we were leaders wed make our own damn phones and wouldn't be the consumers we are. A follower with delusions of grandeur is still a follower.
Nothing wrong with asking for input. After all, we are pack animals. Even leaders take their cues from the pack.
All phones lag at some point or another when they do multitask
I been using note2 and now note 4
Is this an issue absolutely not
Battery life in note was always better than anything else and note 4 is not exemption no only that you can buy a spare battery and be cover for a long time until they star to wear of like all bateries
If you been all this time happy with a phone like 4s i don't know what to say. I would struggle to even the most basic operation like sms with a toy like that. The big screen is like travel in economy and being upgrade to first class again i would don't know if this is the phone for you
I know note is good for me and i would not be happy for a second with a puny phone llke the one you been using
Go to the shop try it and see if you are ready
also a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet when im away i carry my phone when im home i use my tab even though the phone is nice size i would use my tab rather than this
I hope it helps
I'm coming from an Iphone4s myself so can't comment on previous Notes sorry but I can say my iphone freezes and lags all the time. Admittedly I'm a heavy user and have been mostly satisfied with the phone (it was even replaced for free under warranty once so kudos to Apple) but to say iphone's don't lag themselves isn't true.
I've used the Note 4 for a few weeks now - on lag issue, experienced some lag after phone being continously on for more than a week (left it on when charging too) but problem was resolved after restarting the phone. Think this is acceptable?
Also on the Note 4, have needed to retrain my usage as you can switch between apps directly without having to go back to desktop to access shortcuts (with side key panel, you can access app drawer directly too)
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qwerty168 said:
I've used the Note 4 for a few weeks now - on lag issue, experienced some lag after phone being continously on for more than a week (left it on when charging too) but problem was resolved after restarting the phone. Think this is acceptable?
Also on the Note 4, have needed to retrain my usage as you can switch between apps directly without having to go back to desktop to access shortcuts (with side key panel, you can access app drawer directly too)
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Yes I find the performance acceptable. TouchWiz may have its bugs but the Note 4 is coming off a launch with many varients.
Sumsungs devs are probably overworked and focused 100% on lollipop due in just a few weeks time.
When lollipop hits and if these bugs are still present then I will be disappointed for sure